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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689036 I think this evidence alone completely destroys any type of modeling that's been used over the last month. When you factor in the extended time the virus has been here, it's actually less virulent than normal flu. When you consider the almost complete lack of flu cases reported this year by the CDC, you start to see the bigger picture. Covid19 is in FACT this year's flu bug. So you can't have a NOVEL virus appear at same time/before/after traditional flu? You know what NOVEL means? Get off man! Where are the normal flu cases then? CDC is reporting practically none. We should have 20 million cases this year. Where they at? Bravo! Someone is waking up and is starting to see the forest for the trees. Too many Americans are dumbed down and conditioned to never question authority. Fuck! We are so fucked! You are simply incorrect in the way you're looking at this. One day the light might appear. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78659621 So you can't have a NOVEL virus appear at same time/before/after traditional flu? You know what NOVEL means? Get off man! Where are the normal flu cases then? CDC is reporting practically none. We should have 20 million cases this year. Where they at? I'm getting fed up saying this, it's all about overwhelming the hospitals/care system. Forget traditional flu Covid-19 if either of those things lead to the possible deadly pneumonia complications the ICU/ventilators etc simply aren't available. They are attempting to manage this outbreak and godhelp us if they cant because a lot of folk will die a horrible death. And I'd argue that the LACK of "traditional" flu cases (Per the CDC's website) means that there are no more hospitalized sicknesses this year than any other year and quite possibly fewer. The lack of ventilators is a fabrication! Do you understand that? Boots on the ground reporting have shown NO rush on the hospitals. The MSM is blowing this completely out of proportion to scare you. Apparently it's working! I sincerely hope you're correct. We differ in our opinion of the seriousness of this virus. I'm taking precautions and will see how we go, at this moment in time it looks bad to me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78689036 United States 03/29/2020 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78659621 So you can't have a NOVEL virus appear at same time/before/after traditional flu? You know what NOVEL means? Get off man! Where are the normal flu cases then? CDC is reporting practically none. We should have 20 million cases this year. Where they at? Bravo! Someone is waking up and is starting to see the forest for the trees. Too many Americans are dumbed down and conditioned to never question authority. Fuck! We are so fucked! You are simply incorrect in the way you're looking at this. One day the light might appear. Then explain it genius? No regular flu reported. Everyone with a sniffle has Covid19. 80000 flu deaths is OK. 2000 covid19 deaths is a pandemic! Where's the logic? Logic states that on average we see here in the states around 20million flu cases per year, maybe more. The flu took the year off in order to let Covid19 kill a few thousand? Is that what you're saying? Or maybe, just maybe they renamed this year's flu outbreak to make it a novel virus? Ever think of that? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78689036 United States 03/29/2020 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689036 Where are the normal flu cases then? CDC is reporting practically none. We should have 20 million cases this year. Where they at? I'm getting fed up saying this, it's all about overwhelming the hospitals/care system. Forget traditional flu Covid-19 if either of those things lead to the possible deadly pneumonia complications the ICU/ventilators etc simply aren't available. They are attempting to manage this outbreak and godhelp us if they cant because a lot of folk will die a horrible death. And I'd argue that the LACK of "traditional" flu cases (Per the CDC's website) means that there are no more hospitalized sicknesses this year than any other year and quite possibly fewer. The lack of ventilators is a fabrication! Do you understand that? Boots on the ground reporting have shown NO rush on the hospitals. The MSM is blowing this completely out of proportion to scare you. Apparently it's working! I sincerely hope you're correct. We differ in our opinion of the seriousness of this virus. I'm taking precautions and will see how we go, at this moment in time it looks bad to me. I'm taking precautions too man. I've been washing my hands like crazy. Staying inside! Who really knows? But when did we here at GLP decide the MSM was trustworthy? When did our governments become trustworthy? We got to question everything. There's so much to lose. Our God given rights are at stake! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689036 Where are the normal flu cases then? CDC is reporting practically none. We should have 20 million cases this year. Where they at? Bravo! Someone is waking up and is starting to see the forest for the trees. Too many Americans are dumbed down and conditioned to never question authority. Fuck! We are so fucked! You are simply incorrect in the way you're looking at this. One day the light might appear. Then explain it genius? No regular flu reported. Everyone with a sniffle has Covid19. 80000 flu deaths is OK. 2000 covid19 deaths is a pandemic! Where's the logic? Logic states that on average we see here in the states around 20million flu cases per year, maybe more. The flu took the year off in order to let Covid19 kill a few thousand? Is that what you're saying? Or maybe, just maybe they renamed this year's flu outbreak to make it a novel virus? Ever think of that? Geez, it's about managing the rate of infection, forget the virus itself. Look at it in very simple terms. People needing ventilator =5000 ventilators available = 5000 OK, manageable People needing ventilators= 5000 ventilators available = 4000 situation critical simples... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78689036 United States 03/29/2020 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78098821 Bravo! Someone is waking up and is starting to see the forest for the trees. Too many Americans are dumbed down and conditioned to never question authority. Fuck! We are so fucked! You are simply incorrect in the way you're looking at this. One day the light might appear. Then explain it genius? No regular flu reported. Everyone with a sniffle has Covid19. 80000 flu deaths is OK. 2000 covid19 deaths is a pandemic! Where's the logic? Logic states that on average we see here in the states around 20million flu cases per year, maybe more. The flu took the year off in order to let Covid19 kill a few thousand? Is that what you're saying? Or maybe, just maybe they renamed this year's flu outbreak to make it a novel virus? Ever think of that? Geez, it's about managing the rate of infection, forget the virus itself. Look at it in very simple terms. People needing ventilator =5000 ventilators available = 5000 OK, manageable People needing ventilators= 5000 ventilators available = 4000 situation critical simples... I thought we were getting somewhere. lol Good luck to you my friend. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78659621 I'm getting fed up saying this, it's all about overwhelming the hospitals/care system. Forget traditional flu Covid-19 if either of those things lead to the possible deadly pneumonia complications the ICU/ventilators etc simply aren't available. They are attempting to manage this outbreak and godhelp us if they cant because a lot of folk will die a horrible death. And I'd argue that the LACK of "traditional" flu cases (Per the CDC's website) means that there are no more hospitalized sicknesses this year than any other year and quite possibly fewer. The lack of ventilators is a fabrication! Do you understand that? Boots on the ground reporting have shown NO rush on the hospitals. The MSM is blowing this completely out of proportion to scare you. Apparently it's working! I sincerely hope you're correct. We differ in our opinion of the seriousness of this virus. I'm taking precautions and will see how we go, at this moment in time it looks bad to me. I'm taking precautions too man. I've been washing my hands like crazy. Staying inside! Who really knows? But when did we here at GLP decide the MSM was trustworthy? When did our governments become trustworthy? We got to question everything. There's so much to lose. Our God given rights are at stake! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78659621 I'm getting fed up saying this, it's all about overwhelming the hospitals/care system. Forget traditional flu Covid-19 if either of those things lead to the possible deadly pneumonia complications the ICU/ventilators etc simply aren't available. They are attempting to manage this outbreak and godhelp us if they cant because a lot of folk will die a horrible death. And I'd argue that the LACK of "traditional" flu cases (Per the CDC's website) means that there are no more hospitalized sicknesses this year than any other year and quite possibly fewer. The lack of ventilators is a fabrication! Do you understand that? Boots on the ground reporting have shown NO rush on the hospitals. The MSM is blowing this completely out of proportion to scare you. Apparently it's working! I sincerely hope you're correct. We differ in our opinion of the seriousness of this virus. I'm taking precautions and will see how we go, at this moment in time it looks bad to me. I'm taking precautions too man. I've been washing my hands like crazy. Staying inside! Who really knows? But when did we here at GLP decide the MSM was trustworthy? When did our governments become trustworthy? We got to question everything. There's so much to lose. Our God given rights are at stake! I've been coming here for nearly 20 years. I too had a handle once... Believe me, I don't trust the 'gubmint' I do use my 'brian' and I aint no 'moran'. You do whatever you want but bear in mind you >MIGHT< infect others or catch the infection yourself. I'm doing what i'm doing for me and mine! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78659621 You are simply incorrect in the way you're looking at this. One day the light might appear. Then explain it genius? No regular flu reported. Everyone with a sniffle has Covid19. 80000 flu deaths is OK. 2000 covid19 deaths is a pandemic! Where's the logic? Logic states that on average we see here in the states around 20million flu cases per year, maybe more. The flu took the year off in order to let Covid19 kill a few thousand? Is that what you're saying? Or maybe, just maybe they renamed this year's flu outbreak to make it a novel virus? Ever think of that? Geez, it's about managing the rate of infection, forget the virus itself. Look at it in very simple terms. People needing ventilator =5000 ventilators available = 5000 OK, manageable People needing ventilators= 5000 ventilators available = 4000 situation critical simples... I thought we were getting somewhere. lol Good luck to you my friend. Good luck to you too, sorry I feel frustrated. |
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eatinmraw User ID: 41033436 United States 03/29/2020 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: eatinmraw 41033436 I've ask this in other posts and there's never anyone with an answer. If they don't know that's okay...but in all of the seemingly extensive research they could have found some kind of answers for this. If there's not some kind of number proof for it like all the other stats that are quoted...then I start to believe more and more that it's turning into one of the biggest money grabs ever. And of course...who's doin the most grabbin? We don't have any disaster relief fund for this in the UK (as far as I know) I haven't heard of a relief fund in the States, is there one in place? The two trillion relief "package" just signed. Oh, you call that a relief fund, we call it a bailout over here. My wife asked me why the UK government were being so 'good' with their offers of help to all the laid off workers, self employed etc, I told her they had no choice. She looked at me strange. It goes by many names including bailout too. But mainly the bailout name is saved for all the poooooor companies that need bailin out. You know...the type of giany companies that use their money to by and sell their own stocks AND then cry when the lose. Good luck to you and please stay HEALTHY. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43666668 United States 03/29/2020 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78659621 I'm getting fed up saying this, it's all about overwhelming the hospitals/care system. Forget traditional flu Covid-19 if either of those things lead to the possible deadly pneumonia complications the ICU/ventilators etc simply aren't available. They are attempting to manage this outbreak and godhelp us if they cant because a lot of folk will die a horrible death. And I'd argue that the LACK of "traditional" flu cases (Per the CDC's website) means that there are no more hospitalized sicknesses this year than any other year and quite possibly fewer. The lack of ventilators is a fabrication! Do you understand that? Boots on the ground reporting have shown NO rush on the hospitals. The MSM is blowing this completely out of proportion to scare you. Apparently it's working! I sincerely hope you're correct. We differ in our opinion of the seriousness of this virus. I'm taking precautions and will see how we go, at this moment in time it looks bad to me. I'm taking precautions too man. I've been washing my hands like crazy. Staying inside! Who really knows? But when did we here at GLP decide the MSM was trustworthy? When did our governments become trustworthy? We got to question everything. There's so much to lose. Our God given rights are at stake! Gullible coward!! You are so brainwashed you zombie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78704077 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The mortality rate is getting smaller and will be under 1% in the US when more tests are completed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78173446 With 139,601 confirmed and 2430 deaths, the mortality rate is not under 1% and is not getting lower. rate = deaths / confirmed x 100 Currently, it is 1.74% I think it is highly likley that actual number of infections is VERY MUCH in excess of the tested number, probably by at least 1000% In other words instead of 139,000, there is probably more like 139,000,000, most of whom simple brushed it off as a mild cold. that's all great, but had absolutely nothing to do with the numbers i posted in my OP. death due to covid19 is doubling every 6 days, and seems to be accelerating. It is accelerating. In three days the death rate for the virus in the USA as gone from 1.4% to 1.7% |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong your dying already friend and your old. Death comes earlier sometimes get over it, These bugs keep you alive and make survival of the fittest so all you over 70 posting wash your hands I'm 62 but fitter than a lot my age. My wife is healthy and we have recently retired. I'm glad i'm the age I am and wouldn't thank you for being a young-un these days. Modern life sucks but I work on getting another 10 healthy years. We are ok financially and have no 'normal'worries. Yes we are fortunate. Why would I take the risk of disbelieving this is a virulent virus? What difference does it make to me where it came from or who has an agenda? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78704077 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The mortality rate is getting smaller and will be under 1% in the US when more tests are completed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78173446 With 139,601 confirmed and 2430 deaths, the mortality rate is not under 1% and is not getting lower. rate = deaths / confirmed x 100 Currently, it is 1.74% Right now in NYC 2% of those who have contracted the virus have died.....almost precisely 678 deaths /33768 infections = 2.007% Meanwhile , in Israel 15 people out of 4000 have died, 25 minutes ago: [link to www.haaretz.com (secure)] 15deaths/4234 total infected= 0.375 death rate% 10 of these were extremely aged individuals and their testing positive likley only means they were vaccinated. SO why is the death rate in new york 8 times what it is in Israel? Why is the death rate 100 times higher in Iran, and 42 times higher in italy?? Is it because a lot of Americans are overweight? Maybe being overweight makes it harder to fight the virus? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Major Doom With 139,601 confirmed and 2430 deaths, the mortality rate is not under 1% and is not getting lower. rate = deaths / confirmed x 100 Currently, it is 1.74% Right now in NYC 2% of those who have contracted the virus have died.....almost precisely 678 deaths /33768 infections = 2.007% Meanwhile , in Israel 15 people out of 4000 have died, 25 minutes ago: [link to www.haaretz.com (secure)] 15deaths/4234 total infected= 0.375 death rate% 10 of these were extremely aged individuals and their testing positive likley only means they were vaccinated. SO why is the death rate in new york 8 times what it is in Israel? Why is the death rate 100 times higher in Iran, and 42 times higher in italy?? Is it because a lot of Americans are overweight? Maybe being overweight makes it harder to fight the virus? Bingo |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78698851 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | test population those who have had it go back to work those who have not stay home this would also give us a better understanding of the mortality rate personally i believe its higher than we are being told |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69667897 United States 03/29/2020 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The mortality rate is getting smaller and will be under 1% in the US when more tests are completed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78173446 With 139,601 confirmed and 2430 deaths, the mortality rate is not under 1% and is not getting lower. rate = deaths / confirmed x 100 Currently, it is 1.74% "Confirmed" cases, especially in the US, are a small percentage of actual cases. You can't accurately calculate mortality because so many are never tested. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | test population those who have had it go back to work those who have not stay home this would also give us a better understanding of the mortality rate personally i believe its higher than we are being told Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78698851 The NHS are talking about testing all their staff for this reason. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78704077 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The mortality rate is getting smaller and will be under 1% in the US when more tests are completed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78173446 With 139,601 confirmed and 2430 deaths, the mortality rate is not under 1% and is not getting lower. rate = deaths / confirmed x 100 Currently, it is 1.74% Right now in NYC 2% of those who have contracted the virus have died.....almost precisely 678 deaths /33768 infections = 2.007% Meanwhile , in Israel 15 people out of 4000 have died, 25 minutes ago: [link to www.haaretz.com (secure)] 15deaths/4234 total infected= 0.375 death rate% 10 of these were extremely aged individuals and their testing positive likley only means they were vaccinated. SO why is the death rate in new york 8 times what it is in Israel? Why is the death rate 100 times higher in Iran, and 42 times higher in italy?? Interesting questions and I have been pondering the whys and wherefores myself. Could it be due to demographics/population density/hospital patient density/Standard of care on and on with possibilities? I have no proof but looking at the numbers being released by other countries, I suspect China has been LYING. 100% China is lying. Italy has 61.5 million people China has 1.4 billion people. China claims Italy has more dead from the virus than China does lol. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Major Doom With 139,601 confirmed and 2430 deaths, the mortality rate is not under 1% and is not getting lower. rate = deaths / confirmed x 100 Currently, it is 1.74% Right now in NYC 2% of those who have contracted the virus have died.....almost precisely 678 deaths /33768 infections = 2.007% Meanwhile , in Israel 15 people out of 4000 have died, 25 minutes ago: [link to www.haaretz.com (secure)] 15deaths/4234 total infected= 0.375 death rate% 10 of these were extremely aged individuals and their testing positive likley only means they were vaccinated. SO why is the death rate in new york 8 times what it is in Israel? Why is the death rate 100 times higher in Iran, and 42 times higher in italy?? Interesting questions and I have been pondering the whys and wherefores myself. Could it be due to demographics/population density/hospital patient density/Standard of care on and on with possibilities? I have no proof but looking at the numbers being released by other countries, I suspect China has been LYING. 100% China is lying. Italy has 61.5 million people China has 1.4 billion people. China claims Italy has more dead from the virus than China does lol. Sure look that way to me too. |
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