If it comes to it, do you want to be placed on a ventilator?

Prayers we all stay safe and well.

You are brave. Nice way to think about things.

This is all just so fucked up, God I hate 2020

No.

Bravery has nothing to do with it. Just practical.

Dying in my sleep would be a nightmare.

Yes, it so sucks.

But twenty percent do. So you hope you are a minority.

I still have people who depend on me. Hell yes, I’ll take all life saving measures!

I still have people who depend on me. Hell yes, I’ll take all life saving measures!

Here's an exercise we did for a week. (me and the other more advanced shamans). Every time you go through a doorway, stop, think about death, and say aloud "I die now" and walk through the door as if you've just died and are moving on.

Do this for a week. You'll feel better about death.

Repeat as needed.

Whew. Way off the mark. One of our reasoning abilities is slightly off today.

I think a lot of the covid19 cases are intubated very quickly because it helps save the doctors from getting infected.

I was under the impression that those needing ventilation were mostly on the non-invasive kind.

WTF?

Just ask for the anti-malaria drug and get over it in 1-2 days.

You even "right to try" bro?

Fear-monger much?

yeah i think it's pretty much a reflex. you'll beg for it when you're suffocating.

even mild hypoxia will make most you have panic attacks

I'd rather the country get back to work than be on a ventilator.

Twenty twenty hindsight is one of the most painful things to be cursed with, next to herpes and bunions.

No way. Opiods and sedatives until no more respirations!

if you are at stage needing ventilator, you can just take a deep breathe and have someone press on your chest, or bear hug you from behind. you won't wake up.

honestly give the mercy death pill; pull the plug. I am no longer interested continuing life in this shell if I ever get to that point.

No.

Ask me again when I'm at deaths door.

Definitely not.

It's a precursor to death (95 percent in China) and even if you survive that your lungs are permanently damaged.

Thank you Freckles!!! Great thread.

Make your choices now, prepare a living will. Get your house in order. NOW.

Hey stupid I know A bunch of people with it they are fine it’s not as bad as the flu not everyone will need one you guys are straight whacked outta your minds, relax and turn off the tv quit being so stupidly gullible

Not a single word of that is true

Natural Selection. Not all people are suppose to live. We have way too many scavengers on earth. Like rats. Because living is easy.

Make living hard and only the strongest (most intelligent) survive.

Know who to save, and who to let go.

you're not an expert, of anything.

a family member was on one for many, many weeks in ICU recently.

no memory of the time



if you can't stop it, don't start it. - old medical saying

they used the wrong-sized tube and tore his airways to shreds. Was supposed to be only for a day or so.

I told them he needed a pediatric tube.... they said leave the room.

took a repeat intubation only 60 seconds after the too-large tube was pulled out a month later.... big emergency... that tube lasted a couple more weeks

He did NOT need the tube in the first place - it was to make the resident feel better about putting a jugular shunt in.

And NO, he says never again.

once you are on, you are on devil's time. not alive, but not dead. some remain that way for years.

better not to start.

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Only if it is an iron lung in a hyperbaric chamber. If I'm going to get gypped for $30K I WANT MY MONEYS WORTH, DAMMIT.