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UPDATE 05-05-2020 PAGE 14::::::::SBA APPROVAL:::::::IF YOU OWN A BIZ OR ARE SELF EMPLOYED!!!!

 
Isis One

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You have to pay that shit back and become even more of Debt slave to Government
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75561166


I can understand if absolutely have to but I'm using my emergency fund first before taking a gov.loan.. what's interest rate?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69544613


The disaster relief is $10,000 you don’t have to repay. The sba loan is at 3.75% or close to it you can get a thirty year term on that and can borrow up to 2 million.
 Quoting: Isis One


Yes! I did a lot of research last night and then finally decided to apply to get the $10k grant but I am definitely not taking a loan.
 Quoting: stacyanne1


Good for you.

It took me three phone calls to finally get mine processed today. If you only have SSN she said enter it even though it makes it look like an EIN number. I did, it turned green I went on. I entered 0 for cost of goods, click the little box for question on the top of the third page,(maybe 2nd page, but its in a weird spot, easy to miss) I initially missed it. Then it went through. Woman said 5-7 day turnaround before I heard from them. Said I would get an email.

It says you can't use the 10,000 to cover losses?? Just can use it for rent, utilities, mortgages, receipts payable.

We might qualify for unemployment to cover lost income as well but site said I can't apply until April 5 for Pennsylvania. Each state may be different. It will be two weeks after filing before I would see any funds.

Last Edited by Isis One on 03/30/2020 06:49 PM
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UPDATE:

In response to the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, small business owners in all U.S. states, Washington D.C., and territories are eligible to apply for an Economic Injury Disaster Loan advance of up to $10,000.

The SBA’s Economic Injury Disaster Loan program provides small businesses with working capital loans of up to $2 million that can provide vital economic support to small businesses to help overcome the temporary loss of revenue they are experiencing. The loan advance will provide economic relief to businesses that are currently experiencing a temporary loss of revenue. Funds will be made available within three days of a successful application, and this loan advance will not have to be repaid.




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 Quoting: WyatteSmith


Then why call it a loan if it doesn't have to be repaid.
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UPDATE:

In response to the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, small business owners in all U.S. states, Washington D.C., and territories are eligible to apply for an Economic Injury Disaster Loan advance of up to $10,000.

The SBA’s Economic Injury Disaster Loan program provides small businesses with working capital loans of up to $2 million that can provide vital economic support to small businesses to help overcome the temporary loss of revenue they are experiencing. The loan advance will provide economic relief to businesses that are currently experiencing a temporary loss of revenue. Funds will be made available within three days of a successful application, and this loan advance will not have to be repaid.




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 Quoting: WyatteSmith


Then why call it a loan if it doesn't have to be repaid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78615542


No idea, just the messenger. My business has been decimated by this china-virus though, and I am sure others have been as well...




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thankyou
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UPDATE:

In response to the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, small business owners in all U.S. states, Washington D.C., and territories are eligible to apply for an Economic Injury Disaster Loan advance of up to $10,000.

The SBA’s Economic Injury Disaster Loan program provides small businesses with working capital loans of up to $2 million that can provide vital economic support to small businesses to help overcome the temporary loss of revenue they are experiencing. The loan advance will provide economic relief to businesses that are currently experiencing a temporary loss of revenue. Funds will be made available within three days of a successful application, and this loan advance will not have to be repaid.




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 Quoting: WyatteSmith


Then why call it a loan if it doesn't have to be repaid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78615542


No idea, just the messenger. My business has been decimated by this china-virus though, and I am sure others have been as well...




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 Quoting: WyatteSmith


My company has not been decimated, but the oil biz will definitely drop to zero in Houston.

I have to lay off two employees. The unemployment assistance made that requirement less painful for both me and them.
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Yep,

Self employed. Trading on the Forex Market. Just sitting at my desk at home in front of my PC. Making about $500.00 to $700.00 a day trading.

Anyone interested?

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Yep,

Self employed. Trading on the Forex Market. Just sitting at my desk at home in front of my PC. Making about $500.00 to $700.00 a day trading.
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Wow sounds like easy money. What’s the secret?
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Yep,

Self employed. Trading on the Forex Market. Just sitting at my desk at home in front of my PC. Making about $500.00 to $700.00 a day trading.

Anyone interested?
 Quoting: rskdev


Yea, I am.
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UPDATE:

In response to the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, small business owners in all U.S. states, Washington D.C., and territories are eligible to apply for an Economic Injury Disaster Loan advance of up to $10,000.

The SBA’s Economic Injury Disaster Loan program provides small businesses with working capital loans of up to $2 million that can provide vital economic support to small businesses to help overcome the temporary loss of revenue they are experiencing. The loan advance will provide economic relief to businesses that are currently experiencing a temporary loss of revenue. Funds will be made available within three days of a successful application, and this loan advance will not have to be repaid.




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 Quoting: WyatteSmith


$10,000? I shit 10k, this must be a joke
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Wife quit her management job a few months ago to be a stay at home mother, ended up needing a day out a week to keep her sanity so she took a bar tending gig 1-2 days a week then the restaurant got shutdown for Covid19, she now collects and it lets her go back 18 months so she is likely going to get $580 from the state and $600 from the fed for 36 weeks with $1700 cash for her and the kid and I get to collect as well, closed business but still get recurring dividends + the same $580 + $600 for 36 weeks.

That adds up to $86,660 in payments by the government to not work. I mean not that I’m complaining but wtf is wrong with our government handing out this kind of cash?
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If you are interested please contact me at>

[email protected]

I can explain all details more freely. Not sure if admin allows this kind of discussion here.
 Quoting: rskdev


Be sure to include your ssn and bank routing information with any correspondence.
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If you are interested please contact me at>

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I can explain all details more freely. Not sure if admin allows this kind of discussion here.
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Email sent.
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UPDATE:

In response to the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, small business owners in all U.S. states, Washington D.C., and territories are eligible to apply for an Economic Injury Disaster Loan advance of up to $10,000.

The SBA’s Economic Injury Disaster Loan program provides small businesses with working capital loans of up to $2 million that can provide vital economic support to small businesses to help overcome the temporary loss of revenue they are experiencing. The loan advance will provide economic relief to businesses that are currently experiencing a temporary loss of revenue. Funds will be made available within three days of a successful application, and this loan advance will not have to be repaid.




is the loan based on the company revenue of past years?

what if you are self employed and don't have employees?
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Wife quit her management job a few months ago to be a stay at home mother, ended up needing a day out a week to keep her sanity so she took a bar tending gig 1-2 days a week then the restaurant got shutdown for Covid19, she now collects and it lets her go back 18 months so she is likely going to get $580 from the state and $600 from the fed for 36 weeks with $1700 cash for her and the kid and I get to collect as well, closed business but still get recurring dividends + the same $580 + $600 for 36 weeks.

That adds up to $86,660 in payments by the government to not work. I mean not that I’m complaining but wtf is wrong with our government handing out this kind of cash?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3941884


Its the end of the road, printing money is the last resort, but it has never worked before. Fingers crossed it works this time.
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If you are interested please contact me at>

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I can explain all details more freely. Not sure if admin allows this kind of discussion here.
 Quoting: rskdev


Be sure to include your ssn and bank routing information with any correspondence.
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epiclol
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Yep,

Self employed. Trading on the Forex Market. Just sitting at my desk at home in front of my PC. Making about $500.00 to $700.00 a day trading.

Anyone interested?
 Quoting: rskdev


Your member account was created nearly 8 years ago, yet it’s been dormant and you only NOW decided to use it???
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Here ya go Glp.

[link to covid19relief.sba.gov (secure)]

Disaster Loan Assistance
Federal Disaster Loans for Businesses, Private Non-profits, Homeowners and Renters

COVID-19 ECONOMIC INJURY DISASTER LOAN APPLICATION
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Here ya go Glp.

[link to covid19relief.sba.gov (secure)]

Disaster Loan Assistance
Federal Disaster Loans for Businesses, Private Non-profits, Homeowners and Renters

COVID-19 ECONOMIC INJURY DISASTER LOAN APPLICATION
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440


They will give those to anyone, even Handjobs by BFD will qualify.
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Here ya go Glp.

[link to covid19relief.sba.gov (secure)]

Disaster Loan Assistance
Federal Disaster Loans for Businesses, Private Non-profits, Homeowners and Renters

COVID-19 ECONOMIC INJURY DISASTER LOAN APPLICATION
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440


They will give those to anyone, even Handjobs by BFD will qualify.
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If you are interested please contact me at>

[email protected]

I can explain all details more freely. Not sure if admin allows this kind of discussion here.
 Quoting: rskdev


Be sure to include your ssn and bank routing information with any correspondence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78709459


epiclol
 Quoting: Copperhead

Who ever hacked my post. That last sentence was not by me.

Was it you copperhead?

I never would ask for information like that!!!
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If you are interested please contact me at>

[email protected]

I can explain all details more freely. Not sure if admin allows this kind of discussion here.
 Quoting: rskdev


Be sure to include your ssn and bank routing information with any correspondence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78709459






Who ever hacked my post. That last sentence was not by me. Look at my original post before.

Was it you copperhead?

I never would ask for information like that!!!
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If you are interested please contact me at>

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I can explain all details more freely. Not sure if admin allows this kind of discussion here.
 Quoting: rskdev


Be sure to include your ssn and bank routing information with any correspondence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78709459






Who ever hacked my post. That last sentence was not by me. Look at my original post before.

Was it you copperhead?

I never would ask for information like that!!!
 Quoting: Copperhead


Soooooo.....like, can you help me with forex?
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Be sure to include your ssn and bank routing information with any correspondence.
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Who ever hacked my post. That last sentence was not by me. Look at my original post before.

Was it you copperhead?

I never would ask for information like that!!!
 Quoting: Copperhead


Soooooo.....like, can you help me with forex?
 Quoting: rskdev


Sure, contact me at> [email protected]
for details. I don't want to discuss it here. To many naysayers here. Head in the sand type of persons.
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UPDATE:

In response to the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, small business owners in all U.S. states, Washington D.C., and territories are eligible to apply for an Economic Injury Disaster Loan advance of up to $10,000.

The SBA’s Economic Injury Disaster Loan program provides small businesses with working capital loans of up to $2 million that can provide vital economic support to small businesses to help overcome the temporary loss of revenue they are experiencing. The loan advance will provide economic relief to businesses that are currently experiencing a temporary loss of revenue. Funds will be made available within three days of a successful application, and this loan advance will not have to be repaid.




is the loan based on the company revenue of past years?

what if you are self employed and don't have employees?
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


Loan seems based on your own reconnaissance. They'll use your SSN probably to see how you filed last year and how much you made. That seems like its it!! You can start the real loan process if you need more. Its 3.75% and can get 30 ear term if you qualify. Payments not due til 6 mos. Can't use the money to pay off other bills, debt, mortgage. Not sure how they'll be enforcing that.

I don't have employees but have rent, utilities, account receivable (billing company bill) and health insurance. Im hoping I can get the unemployment to cover lost income
Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

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One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide
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Update for anyone with employees:

Paycheck Protection Program

[link to www.sba.gov (secure)]

You will apply through an SBA existing lender. I received an email yesterday from Chase that on April 3 I will be able to apply online through my chase business account.

You can download a sample application to have the info ready for Friday when the application opens up.

SBA will forgive loans if all employees are kept on the payroll for eight weeks and the money is used for payroll, rent, mortgage interest, or utilities.
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Update for anyone with employees:

Paycheck Protection Program

[link to www.sba.gov (secure)]

You will apply through an SBA existing lender. I received an email yesterday from Chase that on April 3 I will be able to apply online through my chase business account.

You can download a sample application to have the info ready for Friday when the application opens up.

SBA will forgive loans if all employees are kept on the payroll for eight weeks and the money is used for payroll, rent, mortgage interest, or utilities.
 Quoting: leelee


Self-employed people with no employees have to wait til April 10 to drop off their application.
Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me

One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Update for anyone with employees:

Paycheck Protection Program

[link to www.sba.gov (secure)]

You will apply through an SBA existing lender. I received an email yesterday from Chase that on April 3 I will be able to apply online through my chase business account.

You can download a sample application to have the info ready for Friday when the application opens up.

SBA will forgive loans if all employees are kept on the payroll for eight weeks and the money is used for payroll, rent, mortgage interest, or utilities.
 Quoting: leelee


Screw that, all I care about is the guaranteed EIDL grant for 10k.
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Update for anyone with employees:

Paycheck Protection Program

[link to www.sba.gov (secure)]

You will apply through an SBA existing lender. I received an email yesterday from Chase that on April 3 I will be able to apply online through my chase business account.

You can download a sample application to have the info ready for Friday when the application opens up.

SBA will forgive loans if all employees are kept on the payroll for eight weeks and the money is used for payroll, rent, mortgage interest, or utilities.
 Quoting: leelee


Self-employed people with no employees have to wait til April 10 to drop off their application.
 Quoting: Isis One


For what? We won't qualify for paycheck protection without employees.
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Update for anyone with employees:

Paycheck Protection Program

[link to www.sba.gov (secure)]

You will apply through an SBA existing lender. I received an email yesterday from Chase that on April 3 I will be able to apply online through my chase business account.

You can download a sample application to have the info ready for Friday when the application opens up.

SBA will forgive loans if all employees are kept on the payroll for eight weeks and the money is used for payroll, rent, mortgage interest, or utilities.
 Quoting: leelee


Screw that, all I care about is the guaranteed EIDL grant for 10k.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78615542


Same. I won't take a loan but I'd love that grant.
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