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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78450659 United States 03/30/2020 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Theory for the madness. THIS is the soundest explaination. Trump slipped. I think it's an EMP(s?) Not sure about your theory, albeit possibly very valid, but I will say this...since the first I heard about these companies re-tooling to make ventilators I knew something was wrong. It doesn't make sense at all. Quoting: SiniXster the Dread I have A LOT of experience in the medical field, 20+yrs Med Tech Oncology, as well as plant re-tooling and machinery moving. After my medical career I became a Machinery Rigger, basically I was contracted by factories, specifically Ford Motor Co, to go into the plants to dismantle, move and reassemble robotics, machinery and production lines that was either sold, discontinued or was being moved to other plants. I ran a full crew as well as being the Operations Manager for the company, I have tons of experience in logistics concerning efforts like this, and I'm telling you with the utmost confidence that there's no possible way these plants will EVER be re-tooled in time to even make a dent in the country's ventilator needs any time soon. It takes numerous months to break down these lines and machines and prep them for movement and storage, the logistics alone are a nightmare let alone the process of disassembly, loading and offloading. After all that is done and the space is made within the plants, the entire ventilation system for each plant would also have to be torn out and completely rebuilt to suit the safety and sanitary guidelines of medical equipment manufacturing, as well as clean rooms being built within the plants. During all of this, other plants will have to be re-tooled and/or enlarged to build the machines needed to build the product itself, and then you have the logistics of delivery, off-loading and assembly of new production lines, etc etc etc. Then inspections take place, and they NEVER pass anything without weeks to months more work to fix mistakes cited by inspectors and safety officials. You see where I'm headed with this? On top of all that, there aren't even close to the number of rigging companies with experienced riggers needed to pull this off, nowhere near enough. Granted, you could bring in a lot of the laid-off skilled tradesmen, but remember they're all union, and the rigging companies aren't, so you also have union contracts to deal with. This is a truly MASSIVE UNDERTAKING on many, many levels. It makes much more sense that they were being re-tooled to produce a product like generators. The process would be far faster with much less oversight and regulations, and a large majority of the machinery already presently being used can be converted to producing the parts needed for this type of product, and a large majority of the work could be done in-house by skilled trades already present. Thanks for sharing this. I learned something new today about how that process works and I concur...something is off all around. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10073860 United States 03/30/2020 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Theory for the madness. THIS is the soundest explaination. Trump slipped. I think it's an EMP(s?) Medical ships afloat, hospitals being built everywhere and lockdown orders. Yeah, there is a virus but by all measurable means, NONE of this adds up. Huge amounts of lending to get cash in to the system quickly to ride out a storm that has yet to emerge. No one believes this. Stories about aliens and asteroids... still, not enough evidence to support it. Brix and Fouche talk like isolation will make this virus disappear and no one will get it. Insanity. Quoting: TinfoilHatMan Last night I believe Trump gave us the final piece to the puzzle. Likely not on purpose either. He used the word generator rather than ventilator numerous times. At first, I thought it was odd but thought nothing of it. That wasn't an accident. It was a Freudian slip. He said it because he's been discussing it. Why? Why would power go out? Let me ask a couple more questions.. Why is Ford, Tesla and GM making 'ventilators'? What the hell do they know about ventilators? Maybe these automobile manufacturers aren't really making ventilators. Maybe they're making GENERATORS. I think they are the MOST qualified for emergency generator production. Why do we need generators? Is the power going out? Why are we all on lockdown? WTF is happening? PERHAPS, government is trying to salvage humanity. PERHAPS they know an EMP is coming or a war is inevitable. Maybe they know about a kill shot coming from the sun; I don't know. But NOW, this all makes sense with that final 'generator' piece. Being in your home will reduce chaos initially. NYC and LA CLEARED TO GHOST TOWNS will help. This all makes sense. It all makes sense for an EMP. Staging hospitals for the mass panic and lawlessness that will surely occur. Civil war breaking out against NG and eventually military. They will need hospitals everywhere... FIELD HOSPITALS.... NAVAL SHIP HOSPITALS. An EMP makes all the sense in the world. ALL OF THIS makes sense in preparation for a post-EMP World. Grid DOWN. Internet DOWN. Radio DOWN. NO COMMUNICATION from govt possible. Complete Mad Max anarchy. No local police dispatch, no fire, no help. Very few functional vehicles, no computers... Literally on our own. This level of prep, plus millions of megawatts of portable power is what would be needed in the wake. Every able bodied man and women working to restore infrastructure. Calling up a MILLION inactive soldiers, recalling medically capable retirees, Trump saying we have 'so much ammunition'. Why? So we don't act up? Keep cool? Think about it. Does any other theory make this much sense?? EDIT: In addition, this is not a secret. What do you have to say to major league sports, Las Vegas and Disney to get them to close a trillion dollar industry in a week to a complete ghost town? You tell them this is an ELE. We know it's happening. You need to come to grips with this and do whats right for our species. People must be home where they feel most safe, not trapped all over the world travelling about. Think of what had to be said to these people to get them ALL to uniformly fall in line. It could not have been a 'suspicion' or 'probability' It was an absolute certainty. The same level of certainty needed to tear down our entire economy. This behavior CANNOT be a 'good will effort'. This is a certainty and nothing matters if humanity doesn't survive... so fuck it. By any means necessary.. and they certainly are taking that mentality to heart. Yes! Try googling Trump and generators. You will find nothing about his mess up. That’s what’s scary as well. I wish we knew the truth. Not sure if mentioned yet but this whole thread has been based on Trump using the word generators instead of ventilators. He said he been discussing both. We do need back up power for hospitals especially with sick people on ventilators. Also the new hospitals will need generators for back up power also. Sometimes the truth is just the most logical answer. Just a thought as I have no idea what’s going on either! Generators are needed for tent hospitals as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78665104 United States 03/30/2020 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Theory for the madness. THIS is the soundest explaination. Trump slipped. I think it's an EMP(s?) Seems totally plausible EXCEPT that to believe this is possible...that they are prepping us for an EMP...we would have to believe that the governments of all nations really give a flying fuck about the people in their countries and that instead of just allowing us to go about our business so that they could get inside their bunkers, they would rather do all this, make sure we are with our families, spend trillions on generators, to give us a fighting chance. Quoting: thepatrioticgirl I agree that it could very well be, that all this is being put in place to ASSIST us in surviving BUT WHERE IN HISTORY IS THE EVIDENCE THAT THIS COULD BE TRUE? We would have to SUSPEND ALL DISBELIEF to believe that for the FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, the governments of the world came together lovingly to develop a plan to save humanity. However, the generator slip,I must admit, does concern me... They are nothing without us IDK how to post a pic there is a group talking about object cluster group asteroids happening NOW with other sky filling planets here and causing all this now. It sounds so insane yet it makes sense and explains our weather anomalies and strange skies. [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] Thanks for the post picture tip ;) [link to imgflip.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 78663945 United States 03/30/2020 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Theory for the madness. THIS is the soundest explaination. Trump slipped. I think it's an EMP(s?) Not sure about your theory, albeit possibly very valid, but I will say this...since the first I heard about these companies re-tooling to make ventilators I knew something was wrong. It doesn't make sense at all. Quoting: SiniXster the Dread I have A LOT of experience in the medical field, 20+yrs Med Tech Oncology, as well as plant re-tooling and machinery moving. After my medical career I became a Machinery Rigger, basically I was contracted by factories, specifically Ford Motor Co, to go into the plants to dismantle, move and reassemble robotics, machinery and production lines that was either sold, discontinued or was being moved to other plants. I ran a full crew as well as being the Operations Manager for the company, I have tons of experience in logistics concerning efforts like this, and I'm telling you with the utmost confidence that there's no possible way these plants will EVER be re-tooled in time to even make a dent in the country's ventilator needs any time soon. It takes numerous months to break down these lines and machines and prep them for movement and storage, the logistics alone are a nightmare let alone the process of disassembly, loading and offloading. After all that is done and the space is made within the plants, the entire ventilation system for each plant would also have to be torn out and completely rebuilt to suit the safety and sanitary guidelines of medical equipment manufacturing, as well as clean rooms being built within the plants. During all of this, other plants will have to be re-tooled and/or enlarged to build the machines needed to build the product itself, and then you have the logistics of delivery, off-loading and assembly of new production lines, etc etc etc. Then inspections take place, and they NEVER pass anything without weeks to months more work to fix mistakes cited by inspectors and safety officials. You see where I'm headed with this? On top of all that, there aren't even close to the number of rigging companies with experienced riggers needed to pull this off, nowhere near enough. Granted, you could bring in a lot of the laid-off skilled tradesmen, but remember they're all union, and the rigging companies aren't, so you also have union contracts to deal with. This is a truly MASSIVE UNDERTAKING on many, many levels. It makes much more sense that they were being re-tooled to produce a product like generators. The process would be far faster with much less oversight and regulations, and a large majority of the machinery already presently being used can be converted to producing the parts needed for this type of product, and a large majority of the work could be done in-house by skilled trades already present. Problem with this is, you have experience in the medical field, not the field of manufacturing. You are massively underestimating how quickly things can happen when you have the full force of the US government behind you. If the notion of not producing vents but rather emergency production of other machines is correct. There would be no inspectors no safety violations etc. There would be no 'proper' movement or storage. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78685325 United States 03/30/2020 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Theory for the madness. THIS is the soundest explaination. Trump slipped. I think it's an EMP(s?) “ The White House is taking this potential threat seriously. On March 26, President Trump issued “Executive Order on Coordinating National Resilience to Electromagnetic Pulses” in an effort to assess the risks of such an attack to critical U.S. infrastructure.” Quoting: StellarBe [link to www.forbes.com (secure)] Maybe? 2019 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75993659 Canada 03/30/2020 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Theory for the madness. THIS is the soundest explaination. Trump slipped. I think it's an EMP(s?) Not sure about your theory, albeit possibly very valid, but I will say this...since the first I heard about these companies re-tooling to make ventilators I knew something was wrong. It doesn't make sense at all. Quoting: SiniXster the Dread I have A LOT of experience in the medical field, 20+yrs Med Tech Oncology, as well as plant re-tooling and machinery moving. After my medical career I became a Machinery Rigger, basically I was contracted by factories, specifically Ford Motor Co, to go into the plants to dismantle, move and reassemble robotics, machinery and production lines that was either sold, discontinued or was being moved to other plants. I ran a full crew as well as being the Operations Manager for the company, I have tons of experience in logistics concerning efforts like this, and I'm telling you with the utmost confidence that there's no possible way these plants will EVER be re-tooled in time to even make a dent in the country's ventilator needs any time soon. It takes numerous months to break down these lines and machines and prep them for movement and storage, the logistics alone are a nightmare let alone the process of disassembly, loading and offloading. After all that is done and the space is made within the plants, the entire ventilation system for each plant would also have to be torn out and completely rebuilt to suit the safety and sanitary guidelines of medical equipment manufacturing, as well as clean rooms being built within the plants. During all of this, other plants will have to be re-tooled and/or enlarged to build the machines needed to build the product itself, and then you have the logistics of delivery, off-loading and assembly of new production lines, etc etc etc. Then inspections take place, and they NEVER pass anything without weeks to months more work to fix mistakes cited by inspectors and safety officials. You see where I'm headed with this? On top of all that, there aren't even close to the number of rigging companies with experienced riggers needed to pull this off, nowhere near enough. Granted, you could bring in a lot of the laid-off skilled tradesmen, but remember they're all union, and the rigging companies aren't, so you also have union contracts to deal with. This is a truly MASSIVE UNDERTAKING on many, many levels. It makes much more sense that they were being re-tooled to produce a product like generators. The process would be far faster with much less oversight and regulations, and a large majority of the machinery already presently being used can be converted to producing the parts needed for this type of product, and a large majority of the work could be done in-house by skilled trades already present. Problem with this is, you have experience in the medical field, not the field of manufacturing. You are massively underestimating how quickly things can happen when you have the full force of the US government behind you. If the notion of not producing vents but rather emergency production of other machines is correct. There would be no inspectors no safety violations etc. There would be no 'proper' movement or storage. Well those companies all have thousands of employees that would be needed to make whatever it is they are making. If they arent making ventilators those employees would know and they would blab to their families and friends, which means it would get out quite quickly that they werent making ventilators. |
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User ID: 76604177 United States 03/30/2020 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Theory for the madness. THIS is the soundest explaination. Trump slipped. I think it's an EMP(s?) Medical ships afloat, hospitals being built everywhere and lockdown orders. Yeah, there is a virus but by all measurable means, NONE of this adds up. Huge amounts of lending to get cash in to the system quickly to ride out a storm that has yet to emerge. No one believes this. Stories about aliens and asteroids... still, not enough evidence to support it. Brix and Fouche talk like isolation will make this virus disappear and no one will get it. Insanity. Quoting: TinfoilHatMan Last night I believe Trump gave us the final piece to the puzzle. Likely not on purpose either. He used the word generator rather than ventilator numerous times. At first, I thought it was odd but thought nothing of it. That wasn't an accident. It was a Freudian slip. He said it because he's been discussing it. Why? Why would power go out? Let me ask a couple more questions.. Why is Ford, Tesla and GM making 'ventilators'? What the hell do they know about ventilators? Maybe these automobile manufacturers aren't really making ventilators. Maybe they're making GENERATORS. I think they are the MOST qualified for emergency generator production. Why do we need generators? Is the power going out? Why are we all on lockdown? WTF is happening? PERHAPS, government is trying to salvage humanity. PERHAPS they know an EMP is coming or a war is inevitable. Maybe they know about a kill shot coming from the sun; I don't know. But NOW, this all makes sense with that final 'generator' piece. Being in your home will reduce chaos initially. NYC and LA CLEARED TO GHOST TOWNS will help. This all makes sense. It all makes sense for an EMP. Staging hospitals for the mass panic and lawlessness that will surely occur. Civil war breaking out against NG and eventually military. They will need hospitals everywhere... FIELD HOSPITALS.... NAVAL SHIP HOSPITALS. An EMP makes all the sense in the world. ALL OF THIS makes sense in preparation for a post-EMP World. Grid DOWN. Internet DOWN. Radio DOWN. NO COMMUNICATION from govt possible. Complete Mad Max anarchy. No local police dispatch, no fire, no help. Very few functional vehicles, no computers... Literally on our own. This level of prep, plus millions of megawatts of portable power is what would be needed in the wake. Every able bodied man and women working to restore infrastructure. Calling up a MILLION inactive soldiers, recalling medically capable retirees, Trump saying we have 'so much ammunition'. Why? So we don't act up? Keep cool? Think about it. Does any other theory make this much sense?? EDIT: In addition, this is not a secret. What do you have to say to major league sports, Las Vegas and Disney to get them to close a trillion dollar industry in a week to a complete ghost town? You tell them this is an ELE. We know it's happening. You need to come to grips with this and do whats right for our species. People must be home where they feel most safe, not trapped all over the world travelling about. Think of what had to be said to these people to get them ALL to uniformly fall in line. It could not have been a 'suspicion' or 'probability' It was an absolute certainty. The same level of certainty needed to tear down our entire economy. This behavior CANNOT be a 'good will effort'. This is a certainty and nothing matters if humanity doesn't survive... so fuck it. By any means necessary.. and they certainly are taking that mentality to heart. They created a virus and worldwide pandemic because of EMP's? :rere23: The virus is real but I think it's just the flu. The numbers dying might be typical or fake. I've yet to see a single video of people of ventilators. I've seen videos of typical over crowded hospitals with people in PPE and respirators. Nothing unusual. I've seen fake bodies being loaded into tractor trailers. I know this is fake because they'd have a basic tent setup to hide this, not gurneys on the public streets. No rise in obituaries, no ERs with lines around the corner... not a single field hospital in use anywhere. No evidence except numbers on a screen... Where are the videos? Where are the obits? Where are the bodies, the crowded hospitals, the pandemic? It isn't. It's the flu. It's just being used as a reason to do what they're doing. I own a cleaning service and work for several doctors. They have assured me it is very serious, and very real- and to stay home. |
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Butters User ID: 78212084 United States 03/30/2020 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Theory for the madness. THIS is the soundest explaination. Trump slipped. I think it's an EMP(s?) When the power goes out for like 10 minutes I already hate life. Quoting: Huge Product That would truly be a worst case scenario. And even if you do have a personal generator, that’s not going to help too much. After power outage, then goes water/sewer..... This hyped up virus is annoying, but livable. Now, a power outage? FK that, no thanks! Hmmm, and the POTUS said they're were going to be thousands of suicides. I think he is trying to prepare us that something huge is about to happen. I think something happening with the sun makes a lot of sense. I had forgotten about the suicide comment. A lot of people would lose their shit if the power went out. They would riot in some places now if it went out over night. Imagine after a week...or a month how crazy people would be without their cell phones or video games. "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you." - Fox Mulder - The X-Files "Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans." - John Lennon |
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