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Nutty Broad
(OP) User ID: 77844203 United States 03/30/2020 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First gun, no experience clearing jams, no experience in proper stance, no experience in recoil mitigation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78709554 Then a 12 gauge tatical or home defense model not a hunting model. Must have a stock none of that Hollywood pistol grip only shit. Pistols are useless with out training with them. The barrel will pull left or right with bad form and you will certainly jerk the trigger rather than squeeze it. A simple movement of 1/8 inch at the front sight means 4-5 feet off target at 10 yards. Rifles are much easier but being new to them in a bad situation will have you hitting people you don’t intend to. This is great info thanks. Just imagining this Difficulty with aim, recoil, etc, maybe the rifle is smarter in a bad situation. What kind is good for a starter? All of your posts are really..great perspective thanks |
Nutty Broad
(OP) User ID: 77844203 United States 03/30/2020 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 guage shotgun. Never a bad choice. Just spend more than $250 and you'll get a decent one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78227903 I like the tough granny with braids and a shotgun look but i’m afraid it’s too big and someone will just grab it right out of my hands! Need something stealthy-ish just for that moment I hope will never happen. And that is a very important point. It sounds like you're interested in a handgun. Another question is if you're only looking for something for the home, or one that is 'mobile.' Not going anywhere unless I have to start hunting for food and that should be a while! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78212206 03/30/2020 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aren't you too late already? Regardless, make sure you have a way of locking that thing away from your kids and don't keep it lying around loaded with one in the chamber. I'd go for a Colt 1911 ACP or a Browning HP given its price, sturdiness, caliber and reliability. If you want something dead-simple to use and clean, go with a revolver, like a Taurus. A shotgun is always nice ... |
Nutty Broad
(OP) User ID: 77844203 United States 03/30/2020 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aren't you too late already? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78212206 Regardless, make sure you have a way of locking that thing away from your kids and don't keep it lying around loaded with one in the chamber. I'd go for a Colt 1911 ACP or a Browning HP given its price, sturdiness, caliber and reliability. If you want something dead-simple to use and clean, go with a revolver, like a Taurus. A shotgun is always nice ... Too late? I think it’s a 3 hour wait near me at the moment and a waiting period, who knows. I’m going to try and will report back. |
Don Draper from Nantucket
User ID: 57553864 United States 03/30/2020 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Judge public defender, a pistol that also shoots .410 shotgun shells. and an ar15 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73591984 If OP is a lady than recoil may need to be taken into consideration for this particular sidearm. If OP is a man than please disregard, and by all means a nice choice! PLATA BITCHEZZZZZZ UPGRADE UNAVAILABLE The Rolling Stones said it best... "What's confusing you is the nature of my game" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77100796 United States 03/30/2020 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First gun, no experience clearing jams, no experience in proper stance, no experience in recoil mitigation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78709554 Then a 12 gauge tatical or home defense model not a hunting model. Must have a stock none of that Hollywood pistol grip only shit. Pistols are useless with out training with them. The barrel will pull left or right with bad form and you will certainly jerk the trigger rather than squeeze it. A simple movement of 1/8 inch at the front sight means 4-5 feet off target at 10 yards. Rifles are much easier but being new to them in a bad situation will have you hitting people you don’t intend to. This is great info thanks. Just imagining this Difficulty with aim, recoil, etc, maybe the rifle is smarter in a bad situation. What kind is good for a starter? All of your posts are really..great perspective thanks Look into hi point's carbine line. Go for ts if you can find one. I feel like everyone just learned about them.. scarce around these parts. Low recoil, long gun.. accurate out of box. Low jam probability. Easy to remove if jammed. Get some redball 20 round clips. TS = last round chamber open = you know it's time to switch mags |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78061638 03/30/2020 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First gun, no experience clearing jams, no experience in proper stance, no experience in recoil mitigation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78709554 Then a 12 gauge tatical or home defense model not a hunting model. Must have a stock none of that Hollywood pistol grip only shit. Pistols are useless with out training with them. The barrel will pull left or right with bad form and you will certainly jerk the trigger rather than squeeze it. A simple movement of 1/8 inch at the front sight means 4-5 feet off target at 10 yards. Rifles are much easier but being new to them in a bad situation will have you hitting people you don’t intend to. This is great info thanks. Just imagining this Difficulty with aim, recoil, etc, maybe the rifle is smarter in a bad situation. What kind is good for a starter? All of your posts are really..great perspective thanks I bought my first weapon from a sales guy who was a former cop at a gun shop. Here's what he said. Get a shotgun for home defense because... * Don't need to be a crack shot, just point and shoot * Variety of ammo, bird shot, various sizes of buck shot and slugs makes a shotgun more versatile than any other weapon * The ominous sound of racking a shotgun offers a warning that others weapons don't offer * If you miss (assuming you did not shoot a slug) it won't go through several walls and kill an innocent next door Get a shock absorbing stock with a pistol grip and you will be set for anything! Make sure to get a variety of shot shells |
eatinmraw User ID: 41033436 United States 03/30/2020 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The virus panic has finally gotten to me and given the coming opiod crisis, the one where there are no opioids, it seems prudent to be able to protect myself and my children. Quoting: Nutty Broad The test is no problem, training, no problem..but what kind of weapon? Bang for the buck or budget because I don’t intend to use it unless it’s needed. Your advice is needed! Handgun AND shotgun. Make it a pink one so the perps get to see that they're about to be blown away by a pink shotgun. |
Where Eagles Dare
Metal-American User ID: 73836248 United States 03/30/2020 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 guage shotgun. Never a bad choice. Just spend more than $250 and you'll get a decent one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78227903 I like the tough granny with braids and a shotgun look but i’m afraid it’s too big and someone will just grab it right out of my hands! Need something stealthy-ish just for that moment I hope will never happen. And that is a very important point. It sounds like you're interested in a handgun. Another question is if you're only looking for something for the home, or one that is 'mobile.' Not going anywhere unless I have to start hunting for food and that should be a while! That being the case, I recommend the Hi-Point 995TS Carbine. My store sells them for $265.00. It is a 9 mm firearm; 9 mm is the second most manufactured caliber, so it is not all that expensive. Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73065160 United States 03/30/2020 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aren't you too late already? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78212206 Regardless, make sure you have a way of locking that thing away from your kids and don't keep it lying around loaded with one in the chamber. I'd go for a Colt 1911 ACP or a Browning HP given its price, sturdiness, caliber and reliability. If you want something dead-simple to use and clean, go with a revolver, like a Taurus. A shotgun is always nice ... Too late? I think it’s a 3 hour wait near me at the moment and a waiting period, who knows. I’m going to try and will report back. Whatever you do, DO NOT GET A 1911. They require a lot more skill and are NOT good for a beginner. Five things have to happen to get a 1911 to fire: *) Round in chamber *) Grip Safety - OFF *) Thumb Safety - OFF *) Hammer back *) Trigger press A Glock only requires TWO THINGS to fire *) Round in chamber *) Trigger Press. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26728121 United States 03/30/2020 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First gun, no experience clearing jams, no experience in proper stance, no experience in recoil mitigation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78709554 Then a 12 gauge tatical or home defense model not a hunting model. Must have a stock none of that Hollywood pistol grip only shit. Pistols are useless with out training with them. The barrel will pull left or right with bad form and you will certainly jerk the trigger rather than squeeze it. A simple movement of 1/8 inch at the front sight means 4-5 feet off target at 10 yards. Rifles are much easier but being new to them in a bad situation will have you hitting people you don’t intend to. This is great info thanks. Just imagining this Difficulty with aim, recoil, etc, maybe the rifle is smarter in a bad situation. What kind is good for a starter? All of your posts are really..great perspective thanks I bought my first weapon from a sales guy who was a former cop at a gun shop. Here's what he said. Get a shotgun for home defense because... * Don't need to be a crack shot, just point and shoot * Variety of ammo, bird shot, various sizes of buck shot and slugs makes a shotgun more versatile than any other weapon * The ominous sound of racking a shotgun offers a warning that others weapons don't offer * If you miss (assuming you did not shoot a slug) it won't go through several walls and kill an innocent next door Get a shock absorbing stock with a pistol grip and you will be set for anything! Make sure to get a variety of shot shells Lots of misleading/bad info here, sorry. 1- False, the spread on a shotgun at the range of most confrontations which is 10-20 feet is minimal, a few inches tops. You most definitely have to aim. 2- Variety of ammo is a plus. 3- This is a myth. I wouldn’t bet my life on it. If someone is attempting to harm others or break in, they may be on heavy drugs or not thinking clearly, Maybe they leave for an easier target, maybe they don’t. Don’t bet your life on it. 4- A slug will go through walls as will buckshot. Not a brick wall but definitely through drywall. Be careful what is in line with your shot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26728121 United States 03/30/2020 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 guage shotgun. Never a bad choice. Just spend more than $250 and you'll get a decent one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78227903 Disregard this post.A 20 gauge is easier for a beginner and does similar damage as a 12. +1 for the 20 gauge. The kick on a 12 gauge is a DOOZY. You will be far off frame if you need to shoot a second shot. 20 guage will be more manageable. Still plenty deadly. |
Where Eagles Dare
Metal-American User ID: 73836248 United States 03/30/2020 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First gun, no experience clearing jams, no experience in proper stance, no experience in recoil mitigation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78709554 Then a 12 gauge tatical or home defense model not a hunting model. Must have a stock none of that Hollywood pistol grip only shit. Pistols are useless with out training with them. The barrel will pull left or right with bad form and you will certainly jerk the trigger rather than squeeze it. A simple movement of 1/8 inch at the front sight means 4-5 feet off target at 10 yards. Rifles are much easier but being new to them in a bad situation will have you hitting people you don’t intend to. This is great info thanks. Just imagining this Difficulty with aim, recoil, etc, maybe the rifle is smarter in a bad situation. What kind is good for a starter? All of your posts are really..great perspective thanks I bought my first weapon from a sales guy who was a former cop at a gun shop. Here's what he said. Get a shotgun for home defense because... * Don't need to be a crack shot, just point and shoot * Variety of ammo, bird shot, various sizes of buck shot and slugs makes a shotgun more versatile than any other weapon * The ominous sound of racking a shotgun offers a warning that others weapons don't offer * If you miss (assuming you did not shoot a slug) it won't go through several walls and kill an innocent next door Get a shock absorbing stock with a pistol grip and you will be set for anything! Make sure to get a variety of shot shells If you choose a shotgun, OP, the above advice is spot on. The sound of racking a shotgun could very well cause an intruder to choose to find a softer target. If you choose a shotgun, my store sells the Mossberg Maverick for $230.00. Since you're a lady, I recommend acquiring a 20 gauge version of the shotgun. I truly hope that you can find a defense tool with which you are comfortable. Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77392573 United States 03/30/2020 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aren't you too late already? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78212206 Regardless, make sure you have a way of locking that thing away from your kids and don't keep it lying around loaded with one in the chamber. I'd go for a Colt 1911 ACP or a Browning HP given its price, sturdiness, caliber and reliability. If you want something dead-simple to use and clean, go with a revolver, like a Taurus. A shotgun is always nice ... Too late? I think it’s a 3 hour wait near me at the moment and a waiting period, who knows. I’m going to try and will report back. Highly advise you not to get a gun, you are clueless. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75658817 United States 03/30/2020 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Get a 9mm Smith Wesson MP is a good gun with good capacity magazines and is affordable don’t forget to get a safe to keep it away from your children. If you don’t like that gun then try Springfield armory Xd affordable or a small subcompact beretta. Try to stay on 9mm caliber because the abundance of it in a shtf case. |
ADEND User ID: 74839797 United States 03/30/2020 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are emotional go with the one you feel you will without a doubt fire at your target if you need it for defense. If you can't find one like that, just get a baseball bat. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78346412 United States 03/30/2020 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The virus panic has finally gotten to me and given the coming opiod crisis, the one where there are no opioids, it seems prudent to be able to protect myself and my children. Quoting: Nutty Broad The test is no problem, training, no problem..but what kind of weapon? Bang for the buck or budget because I don’t intend to use it unless it’s needed. Your advice is needed! you're 12 days late and $600 short. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78346412 United States 03/30/2020 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The virus panic has finally gotten to me and given the coming opiod crisis, the one where there are no opioids, it seems prudent to be able to protect myself and my children. Quoting: Nutty Broad The test is no problem, training, no problem..but what kind of weapon? Bang for the buck or budget because I don’t intend to use it unless it’s needed. Your advice is needed! Glock. Choose the model that fits your hand. Is it a good price? What IS a good price? Do gun dealers charge what they think you can pay or are there norms? Glocks are a solid gun and rarely sell for a premium. they're a good choice, overall, although I personally dislike their grip angle and don't own one. If you know nothing about firearms, a revolver may be a better choice, particularly for a woman. autos are more complex and require more physical strength to operate. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78346412 United States 03/30/2020 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First gun, no experience clearing jams, no experience in proper stance, no experience in recoil mitigation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78709554 Then a 12 gauge tatical or home defense model not a hunting model. Must have a stock none of that Hollywood pistol grip only shit. Pistols are useless with out training with them. The barrel will pull left or right with bad form and you will certainly jerk the trigger rather than squeeze it. A simple movement of 1/8 inch at the front sight means 4-5 feet off target at 10 yards. Rifles are much easier but being new to them in a bad situation will have you hitting people you don’t intend to. This is great info thanks. Just imagining this Difficulty with aim, recoil, etc, maybe the rifle is smarter in a bad situation. What kind is good for a starter? All of your posts are really..great perspective thanks if you know nothing about firearms, a 357 revolver loaded with 38 special is probably the best fit overall. it's the simplest and easiest to shoot. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78346412 United States 03/30/2020 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aren't you too late already? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78212206 Regardless, make sure you have a way of locking that thing away from your kids and don't keep it lying around loaded with one in the chamber. I'd go for a Colt 1911 ACP or a Browning HP given its price, sturdiness, caliber and reliability. If you want something dead-simple to use and clean, go with a revolver, like a Taurus. A shotgun is always nice ... Too late? I think it’s a 3 hour wait near me at the moment and a waiting period, who knows. I’m going to try and will report back. background checks have been stopped in a few States. and you'll almost certainly have a waiting period for a handgun. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78346412 United States 03/30/2020 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aren't you too late already? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78212206 Regardless, make sure you have a way of locking that thing away from your kids and don't keep it lying around loaded with one in the chamber. I'd go for a Colt 1911 ACP or a Browning HP given its price, sturdiness, caliber and reliability. If you want something dead-simple to use and clean, go with a revolver, like a Taurus. A shotgun is always nice ... Too late? I think it’s a 3 hour wait near me at the moment and a waiting period, who knows. I’m going to try and will report back. Whatever you do, DO NOT GET A 1911. They require a lot more skill and are NOT good for a beginner. Five things have to happen to get a 1911 to fire: *) Round in chamber *) Grip Safety - OFF *) Thumb Safety - OFF *) Hammer back *) Trigger press A Glock only requires TWO THINGS to fire *) Round in chamber *) Trigger Press. still need to cycle the slide. many women have a problem with this. also, their grip tends to be weak, which creates short stroke jams in autos. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78346412 United States 03/30/2020 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 guage shotgun. Never a bad choice. Just spend more than $250 and you'll get a decent one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78227903 Disregard this post.A 20 gauge is easier for a beginner and does similar damage as a 12. +1 for the 20 gauge. The kick on a 12 gauge is a DOOZY. You will be far off frame if you need to shoot a second shot. 20 guage will be more manageable. Still plenty deadly. definitely 20 gauge for a shotgun. I'd go with a revolver for a entry-level woman. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73992024 United States 03/30/2020 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I assume your primary concern is security inside your home. In that case there is no real choice--a pump action shotgun that can give 5 shells if need be. The shotgun is the hands down winner because you don't have to worry about killing your own kids in another room or a neighbor 5 houses away--which could easily occur with a larger handgun or a rifle. Outside the home, as mentioned before, a 38 is a very good choice. It is smaller and lighter--easier to hide, recover, and handle. A nice advantage of the 38 revolver over some semi auto handguns is that not only is it cheaper but if you do have to wax someone in public you don't have to waste time picking up round casings--just get outa dodge-if there is further danger :). Buy a few hundred rounds--practice makes perfect. |