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User ID: 78192481 United States 03/31/2020 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Congregations willingly chose to become corporations that are governed by the state, they must do what their master tells them. That's the reward for those that sell the Gospel. [link to christianobserver.net] “O.K. Pastors, Evangelists, Missionaries, Deacons, Trustees, Elders… listen up! Let’s stop all the hocus-pocus, the illusions, the scams, the fairy-tales and the outright lies regarding what the 501(c)(3) incorporated church is and is not. For a change, let’s deal with facts. For those of you who don’t understand “facts,” in the legal arena,facts are used and are supported by documented evidence which would be admissible in a legitimate court of law. Facts are not hyperbole! [i.e. exaggeration]” -Barbara Ketay, “The 501(c)(3) Incorporated Church: The Real Truth,” Biblical Law Center, retrieved July 23, 2012, Ketay goes on to list facts about what a 501c3 church corporation is by lawful state definition: The creator of a corporation is the State. The State is the sole authority and sovereign head over the corporation. The corporation is subject to the laws of the State which limits its powers. The corporation has no constitutionally protected rights. The corporation is an artificial person. The corporation submits to a State Charter declaring it is a creature of the State. The corporation is created for the benefit of the public. The corporation is a State franchise. The corporation is a privilege granted by the State. Pastors, evangelists, missionaries, elders, deacons, watch this carefully because I need to make this abundantly clear. You have a 501c3 INCORPORATED status. That means your church is a corporation of the state. Here is the message that I, other preachers, and the IRS is trying to get you to understand about the contract you signed: The creator of your church is the State. The State is the sole authority and sovereign head over your church. Your church is subject to the laws of the State which limits its powers. Your church has no constitutionally protected rights. Your church is an artificial person. Your church submits to a State Charter declaring it is a creature of the State. Your church is created for the benefit of the public. Your church is a State franchise. Your church is a privilege granted by the State. Many of us have marveled at how church leaders want to be regulated and controlled by an agency of government that most Americans have prayed would just get out of their lives. Churches are in an amazingly unique position, but they don’t seem to know or appreciate the implications of what it would mean to be free of government control.” -Steve Nestor, IRS Senior Officer, quoted by Peter Kershaw, In Caesar’s Grip, self-published, 2000; See also hisholychurch.net’s information pdf on IRS form 1023 [link to www.hisholychurch.net] Last Edited by 232 on 03/31/2020 12:41 AM Baruch HaShem YESHUA ~ Melekh ha Olam |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24499233 United States 03/31/2020 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow, that pastor is going to sue the shit out of Florida. His church is going to be in the money soon. No Martial Law has been declair so constitutional rights are still in effect. There is no after the fact declaration for martial law for this blantent disregard of his 1st amendment. That is how America rides, if you constitution rights get taken, you sue. They only understand money. |
Green Onions
User ID: 75769027 United Kingdom 03/31/2020 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill de Blasio: NYC churches caught holding services during coronavirus may be 'permanently' closed Quoting: christian [link to www.washingtontimes.com (secure)] Wow. That shows the real intent right there. Close them forever? How does that make sense? Looks rather obvious this is a slick way to shut down churches. it shows he was a complete dick green onions |
Green Onions
User ID: 75769027 United Kingdom 03/31/2020 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow, that pastor is going to sue the shit out of Florida. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233 His church is going to be in the money soon. No Martial Law has been declair so constitutional rights are still in effect. There is no after the fact declaration for martial law for this blantent disregard of his 1st amendment. That is how America rides, if you constitution rights get taken, you sue. They only understand money. why did you not fuck off to catch the virus at church you still have time at another church then bring the virus home to your own family You must be a complete retard green onions |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24499233 United States 03/31/2020 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow, that pastor is going to sue the shit out of Florida. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233 His church is going to be in the money soon. No Martial Law has been declair so constitutional rights are still in effect. There is no after the fact declaration for martial law for this blantent disregard of his 1st amendment. That is how America rides, if you constitution rights get taken, you sue. They only understand money. why did you not fuck off to catch the virus at church you still have time at another church then bring the virus home to your own family You must be a complete retard You are an idiot, fearful of something that can be easily protected against using ionophores, and zinc. That includes chloroquin, and hydroxychloroquin, and quecertin. Quecertin in not pescription here, and is easliy bought. You and the virus tards are nothing more the nanny state commies willing to give up everything because someone told you that it's "policy". Fuck that, fuck you, fuck china, and unless they declair martial law, you can take god given rights away from americans, unless you are willing to pay for it with money or other things. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24499233 United States 03/31/2020 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow, that pastor is going to sue the shit out of Florida. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233 His church is going to be in the money soon. No Martial Law has been declair so constitutional rights are still in effect. There is no after the fact declaration for martial law for this blantent disregard of his 1st amendment. That is how America rides, if you constitution rights get taken, you sue. They only understand money. why did you not fuck off to catch the virus at church you still have time at another church then bring the virus home to your own family You must be a complete retard You are an idiot, fearful of something that can be easily protected against using ionophores, and zinc. That includes chloroquin, and hydroxychloroquin, and quecertin. Quecertin in not pescription here, and is easliy bought. You and the virus tards are nothing more the nanny state commies willing to give up everything because someone told you that it's "policy". Fuck that, fuck you, fuck china, and unless they declair martial law, you can't take god given rights away from americans, unless you are willing to pay for it with money or other things. |
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Pilgrim001
User ID: 78018011 United States 03/31/2020 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill de Blasio: NYC churches caught holding services during coronavirus may be 'permanently' closed Quoting: christian [link to www.washingtontimes.com (secure)] Wow. That shows the real intent right there. Close them forever? How does that make sense? Looks rather obvious this is a slick way to shut down churches. I don't think they even have a constitutional right to tell us to stay home, so I don't see how they can close a church permanently because they disobeyed being told to stay home. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49949213 United States 03/31/2020 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Beware of Rodney Howard-Browne Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24375163 "Capturing America's Heart: A Third Awakening?" [link to www.cbn.com] which promotes this "Celebrate America" event in July: [link to celebrateamericadc.com] which did not present the slightest hint of what I remember of this man: |
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ThereRMeds
User ID: 78333028 United States 03/31/2020 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne, leader of Revival International Ministries and The River at Tampa Bay Church in Tampa, Florida, was arrested Monday for what officials say was the violation of a "safer-at-home" order, which prohibits large worship services during the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. Quoting: christian Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister said that when he saw images from a crowded Sunday service at the church posted online, he was furious. “We received an anonymous tip that Dr. Rodney Howard-Browne refused a request to temporarily stop holding large gatherings at his church,” he said. “And instead, he was encouraging his large congregation to meet at his church.” Hillsborough County issued a "safer-at-home" order effective March 27, 10 News reported. The order mandates non-essential businesses to abide by the CDC’s social distancing guidelines that requires individuals to be separated by six feet of space. If they are unable to do that they have to shut down. Howard-Browne argued that that his church is an essential business, and that the order violates his First Amendment rights. The pastor’s arrest order shows that he was charged with unlawful assembly and violation of public health emergency rules, which are both second-degree misdemeanors, punishable by up to 60 days in jail and a maximum fine of $500, the Orlando Weekly noted. [link to www.christianpost.com (secure)] Come on. This idiot had TWO services on Sunday after being repeatedly warned against it. He “assured” his congregation that he had these machines that kept them completely safe. One service had between 400-500 people, another 300+. ThereRMeds4That |
ThereRMeds
User ID: 78333028 United States 03/31/2020 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow, that pastor is going to sue the shit out of Florida. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233 His church is going to be in the money soon. No Martial Law has been declair so constitutional rights are still in effect. There is no after the fact declaration for martial law for this blantent disregard of his 1st amendment. That is how America rides, if you constitution rights get taken, you sue. They only understand money. You’re not as smart as you think. ThereRMeds4That |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75426142 United States 03/31/2020 03:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This man has been here for years and never bothered to become a citizen. He made big bucks on a pyramid scheme that went end up and was in the White House praying over Trump. If he was interested in America he would have become a citizen long ago. |
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ThereRMeds
User ID: 78333028 United States 03/31/2020 03:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.tmz.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78545945 The River Church in Tampa was packed to the gills with worshipers who clearly were looking for hope. Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne, who presides over the megachurch and has been reportedly defiant over social distancing, has claimed he'll cure coronavirus just the way he did with Zika. The Pastor boasted his place was white-glove clean, saying, “We brought in 13 machines that basically kill every virus in the place, and uh, if somebody walks through the door it’s like, it kills everything on them. If they sneeze, it shoots it down at like 100 mph. It'll neutralize it in split seconds. We have the most sterile building in, I don’t know, all of America.” Thread: Florida pastor: "we brought in 13 machines that basically kill every virus in the place". ThereRMeds4That |
Furrry Pete
User ID: 65249017 United States 03/31/2020 03:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | he's the bad spirit that had the non-discerning barking like dogs, I don't identify with him, he's worse than Benny Hinn "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78351961 United States 03/31/2020 04:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne, leader of Revival International Ministries and The River at Tampa Bay Church in Tampa, Florida, was arrested Monday for what officials say was the violation of a "safer-at-home" order, which prohibits large worship services during the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. Quoting: christian Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister said that when he saw images from a crowded Sunday service at the church posted online, he was furious. “We received an anonymous tip that Dr. Rodney Howard-Browne refused a request to temporarily stop holding large gatherings at his church,” he said. “And instead, he was encouraging his large congregation to meet at his church.” Hillsborough County issued a "safer-at-home" order effective March 27, 10 News reported. The order mandates non-essential businesses to abide by the CDC’s social distancing guidelines that requires individuals to be separated by six feet of space. If they are unable to do that they have to shut down. Howard-Browne argued that that his church is an essential business, and that the order violates his First Amendment rights. The pastor’s arrest order shows that he was charged with unlawful assembly and violation of public health emergency rules, which are both second-degree misdemeanors, punishable by up to 60 days in jail and a maximum fine of $500, the Orlando Weekly noted. [link to www.christianpost.com (secure)] The Pastor was brainless or greedy. One or the other. We Americans have to put up with this crap. I’m sorry, but this guy needs prison. |
Furrry Pete
User ID: 65249017 United States 03/31/2020 04:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to culteducation.com (secure)] "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Leroux
User ID: 54331509 Canada 03/31/2020 04:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So after saying this...The cities must be tore down,as people should not be so close together ...If we want this virus to Vanish ...Cities all of them,must be TORE DOWN...And all people should live on at least 5 acres of land... THESE RULES ARE STARTING TO ANNOY ME! Acts 24:15 15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust. 1 John 2:22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist |
Billxam, ABATE, AWHA
User ID: 56270897 United States 03/31/2020 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill de Blasio: NYC churches caught holding services during coronavirus may be 'permanently' closed Quoting: christian [link to www.washingtontimes.com (secure)] Wow. That shows the real intent right there. Close them forever? How does that make sense? Looks rather obvious this is a slick way to shut down churches. What's he going to do about this??? First Amendment. U.S. Constitution, ratified in 1791 as part of the Bill of Rights, prohibiting Congress from interfering with freedom of religion, speech, assembly, or petition. And therein lies the rub. Congress. Federal. Not local. County commissioners and councils are the people that allow buildings to be built and allow gatherings and applying zoning rules and regulations. If they want to rezone the land the church sits on they can. Proud to be UnV'd There is one constant in life: If you build something worth having, someone will try to take it or destroy it. Proud member of A Brotherhood Against Totalitarian Enactments, Americans Who Hate Aging, proud supporter of attractive women. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78707908 United States 03/31/2020 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’m guessing those brown shirts didn’t enjoy Pastor Browne’s excellent book “The Killing of Uncle Sam” [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] Which is unfortunate. It is a great read =) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78063540 United States 03/31/2020 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow, that pastor is going to sue the shit out of Florida. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233 His church is going to be in the money soon. No Martial Law has been declair so constitutional rights are still in effect. There is no after the fact declaration for martial law for this blantent disregard of his 1st amendment. That is how America rides, if you constitution rights get taken, you sue. They only understand money. A church that's "in the money" is a church owned by the issuer of that money. |
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