SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73797471 United States 03/31/2020 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC. Quoting: Doc Savage Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges. U.S. Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000 MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000 DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children) [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Here are the U.S. COVID-19 stats as of March 31, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 175,669 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 22,000 DEATHS: 3,424 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] World Health Organization mid-line estimate for Influenza during 2019-2020 Flu Season: GLOBAL DEATHS: 470,000 TOTAL GLOBAL COVID-19 DEATHS AS OF 3/31/20: 37,272 U.S. flu death rate: .01% U.S. Covid death rate right now with no overwhelmed hospitals: 2% Worldwide Covid death rate (based on your numbers): 8% So if there were 46,000,000 Covid cases (which there would eventually be with no social distancing, then there would be 920,000 deaths in the US if the death rate doesn’t change and 3.6 million deaths of our death rate rises to the world death rate. Wake TF up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73797471 United States 03/31/2020 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 I'll use statistics from Italy and extrapolate to the USAs population and compare them to OPs flu related deaths. Quoting: Tassie Lurker Currently Italy has a population of 60 million. They have lost just under 12,500 lives so far, with deaths not in decline (has not peaked yet). If we extrapolate the death rate to the USAs current population, 327 million, just over 68,000 would have died so far... Italy's covid19 deaths have occurred in just ONE month, so lets times the USAs deaths, 68k, by 12.. around 820,000 deaths compared to the estimated 43k flu related deaths.. Imagine if Italy had not shut down, had not taken any precautions.. Covid19 smashes the flu, if you use Italy's stats. Anyone saying this is a hoax is pure retard. |
Too Dark Park™ Two
User ID: 73892320 United States 03/31/2020 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 But but but but but but.... Muh doomboner! Bless my fuck "It’s in my interest, in ours perhaps, or maybe the interests of the greater good, for me to smoke a joint, and calm down.” — Hunter S. Thompson "I've got the spirit, but lose the feeling!" :rockon: |
. User ID: 4169090 United States 03/31/2020 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC. Quoting: Doc Savage Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges. Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000 MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000 DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children) [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Here are the U.S. COVID-19 stats as of March 31, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 175,669 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 22,000 DEATHS: 3,424 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Perspective brings truth. This corona hoax was designed to usher in the NWO. . Young GrassHopper Might this be Were the NWO Peeps are Taken Out with Yesterdays Trash? Do U Q at all. GOD Is In CONTROL not U Nor TPTB. Interesting Times we Are Living IN. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73797471 United States 03/31/2020 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 The main difference is 80% of the people that get Covid 19 think it is a mild cold and so they drink some OJ and go on with their life. They never get tested. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76892169 Tens of millions have dealt with it and never got tested. The death rate is tiny. It is fatal to people elderly and they are finding that it is really bad for people with high blood pressure and people on statins. I’m so glad I’ve never been on a statin despite having higher than average cholesterol. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53199845 United States 03/31/2020 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 Again, comparing 6 months of flu to 1 month of Corona starting and spreading in the USA. Give it a month and then recompare. Also.. did you forget you’re comparing a virus (the flu) with no social distancing and shut downs vs a new virus with social distancing and shut downs. Think about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78290459 Normal flu also has vaccine, so there would need to be a way to account for that as a mitigating factor. There's too many moving parts now that quarantines and social distancing are in the mix. Makes it all but impossible to compare apples to apples, which I believe is part of the grand plan. Some day we will look back on this and wonder how we were fleeced so easily out of 2.2T in taxpayer dollars. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78290459 United States 03/31/2020 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 I'll use statistics from Italy and extrapolate to the USAs population and compare them to OPs flu related deaths. Quoting: Tassie Lurker Currently Italy has a population of 60 million. They have lost just under 12,500 lives so far, with deaths not in decline (has not peaked yet). If we extrapolate the death rate to the USAs current population, 327 million, just over 68,000 would have died so far... Italy's covid19 deaths have occurred in just ONE month, so lets times the USAs deaths, 68k, by 12.. around 820,000 deaths compared to the estimated 43k flu related deaths.. Imagine if Italy had not shut down, had not taken any precautions.. Covid19 smashes the flu, if you use Italy's stats. Anyone saying this is a hoax is pure retard. It's a hoax... they read it from a forum post... it's real... and in a day the lights will also magically turn off for a while lol. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78290459 United States 03/31/2020 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 I'll use statistics from Italy and extrapolate to the USAs population and compare them to OPs flu related deaths. Quoting: Tassie Lurker Currently Italy has a population of 60 million. They have lost just under 12,500 lives so far, with deaths not in decline (has not peaked yet). If we extrapolate the death rate to the USAs current population, 327 million, just over 68,000 would have died so far... Italy's covid19 deaths have occurred in just ONE month, so lets times the USAs deaths, 68k, by 12.. around 820,000 deaths compared to the estimated 43k flu related deaths.. Imagine if Italy had not shut down, had not taken any precautions.. Covid19 smashes the flu, if you use Italy's stats. Anyone saying this is a hoax is pure retard. It's a hoax... they read it from a forum post... it's real... and in a day the lights will also magically turn off for a while lol. you know... destroyed the world only because they wanted to arrest Tom Hanks and let him use Twitter in jail. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16762662 United States 03/31/2020 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 They told us this is not the end! We are to expect it to return in the fall! They are cancelling major events now for JUNE. There will never be a "handle" on what's gong to happen next. You won't be forced to have a vaccine, but if you ever want to travel out of the country or on a airplane again, attend a large event or concert, you will have to get it. |
. User ID: 4169090 United States 03/31/2020 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 Again, comparing 6 months of flu to 1 month of Corona starting and spreading in the USA. Give it a month and then recompare. Also.. did you forget you’re comparing a virus (the flu) with no social distancing and shut downs vs a new virus with social distancing and shut downs. Think about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78290459 Normal flu also has vaccine, so there would need to be a way to account for that as a mitigating factor. There's too many moving parts now that quarantines and social distancing are in the mix. Makes it all but impossible to compare apples to apples, which I believe is part of the grand plan. Some day we will look back on this and wonder how we were fleeced so easily out of 2.2T in taxpayer dollars. . The ONLY time I get the Flue is If/When I get a Flue Shot. No Flue Shot NO FLUE. So I DO NOT Get the Flue Shot. . |
Penny Peppers
User ID: 45904129 United States 03/31/2020 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC. Quoting: Doc Savage Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges. U.S. Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000 MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000 DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children) [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Here are the U.S. COVID-19 stats as of March 31, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 175,669 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 22,000 DEATHS: 3,424 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] World Health Organization mid-line estimate for Influenza during 2019-2020 Flu Season: GLOBAL DEATHS: 470,000 TOTAL GLOBAL COVID-19 DEATHS AS OF 3/31/20: 37,272 Does not compute. None of this computes There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist... Oh, and Biden can't dress himself.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74909447 United States 03/31/2020 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 I'll use statistics from Italy and extrapolate to the USAs population and compare them to OPs flu related deaths. Quoting: Tassie Lurker Currently Italy has a population of 60 million. They have lost just under 12,500 lives so far, with deaths not in decline (has not peaked yet). If we extrapolate the death rate to the USAs current population, 327 million, just over 68,000 would have died so far... Italy's covid19 deaths have occurred in just ONE month, so lets times the USAs deaths, 68k, by 12.. around 820,000 deaths compared to the estimated 43k flu related deaths.. Imagine if Italy had not shut down, had not taken any precautions.. Covid19 smashes the flu, if you use Italy's stats. Anyone saying this is a hoax is pure retard. It's a hoax... they read it from a forum post... it's real... and in a day the lights will also magically turn off for a while lol. you know... destroyed the world only because they wanted to arrest Tom Hanks and let him use Twitter in jail. Lol. Them thinking the "Patriots" arrested Tom Hanks and stole his phone to post pics and vids so the world doesnt truly know he's being sent to gitmo for pedophilia. Lololol |
FLUXUATION86
User ID: 76798692 United States 03/31/2020 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 2 Min video some have seen already, below are quotes from the end of the video. He just rebuffs my similar opinion from day one. "What are the odds that corona virus just happened to emerge within a stones throw, in a giant country of it's only level 4 bio weapons lab?" "The odds of course are virtually ZERO" "If you understand that, that we are most likely dealing with an engineered virus, possibly engineered specifically for transmission and lethality, the response of the elites makes sense" "It's Due, and that's why all the responses are unprecedented." This plus many other supporting articles and evidence have been presented supporting exactly what numerous people have pointed out The rabbit hole is deep and it could also be numerous other iterations, it could end up being natural! I still agree more with his sentiments, a lot of the added hysteria has to do with the key word "unprecedented acts". Logically leads many of us to assume something deeper is at play here. I know the virus is real, but just like the OP has stated. A Lot DOES NOT add up. They are not going to come out and tell the world the full truth yet, maybe they themselves don't know what that truth is yet either. Anyone care to look back in history and can correlate the actions pre war in the past as compared to these "unprecedented acts" "Unprecedented Acts" FLUXUATION86 |
LTHN. User ID: 78429200 Canada 03/31/2020 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC. Quoting: Doc Savage Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges. Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000 MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000 DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children) [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Here are the U.S. COVID-19 stats as of March 31, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 175,669 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 22,000 DEATHS: 3,424 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Perspective brings truth. This corona hoax was designed to usher in the NWO. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75926151 United States 03/31/2020 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 I'll use statistics from Italy and extrapolate to the USAs population and compare them to OPs flu related deaths. Quoting: Tassie Lurker Currently Italy has a population of 60 million. They have lost just under 12,500 lives so far, with deaths not in decline (has not peaked yet). If we extrapolate the death rate to the USAs current population, 327 million, just over 68,000 would have died so far... Italy's covid19 deaths have occurred in just ONE month, so lets times the USAs deaths, 68k, by 12.. around 820,000 deaths compared to the estimated 43k flu related deaths.. Imagine if Italy had not shut down, had not taken any precautions.. Covid19 smashes the flu, if you use Italy's stats. They didn't prepare no one did and not all hospitals/health care systems around the world are created equal. The flu count is for a season (6 months) not a year, Wuhan will burn out just like the rest. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77067311 United States 03/31/2020 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC. Quoting: Doc Savage Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges. Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000 MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000 DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children) [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Here are the U.S. COVID-19 stats as of March 31, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 175,669 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 22,000 DEATHS: 3,424 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] The difference between covid and the flu is the rate of infection is much greater, you can be a carrier and not know it (therefore the total illnesses # is way off), and all of this happens in a much shorter time period than the flu which can overwhelm the hospital. I think the greatest threat from this is the asymptomatic carriers. With the flu, most people know they have it, feel like shit, and stay home and they are only contagious when they show symptoms. This simply isn't the case with Covid. Thus it has the potential to infect everyone and the number of deaths can be much greater than the seasonal flu because of this. Symptoms in most people are mild to moderate. Period. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74909447 United States 03/31/2020 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC. Quoting: Doc Savage Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges. Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000 MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000 DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children) [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Here are the U.S. COVID-19 stats as of March 31, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 175,669 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 22,000 DEATHS: 3,424 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] The difference between covid and the flu is the rate of infection is much greater, you can be a carrier and not know it (therefore the total illnesses # is way off), and all of this happens in a much shorter time period than the flu which can overwhelm the hospital. I think the greatest threat from this is the asymptomatic carriers. With the flu, most people know they have it, feel like shit, and stay home and they are only contagious when they show symptoms. This simply isn't the case with Covid. Thus it has the potential to infect everyone and the number of deaths can be much greater than the seasonal flu because of this. Symptoms in most people are mild to moderate. Period. You're 100% correct and even the lying media state that. Not a single retard doesn't agree with what you said. The issue is that the flu had a fatality rate of only .01%. 45+mil people get it. It doesnt take a brain surgeon or a graphing calculator to realize that if we don't work to stop covid hundreds of thousands would die. Unless you're just completely retarded and think it isn't contagious and no one else can catch it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78445863 United States 03/31/2020 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 You could have gotten the flu shot if you had wanted to avoid it. It was on spot with the correct virus this year. There is no shot available for coronavirus. Also, keep in mind that if we weren't taking these measures, there are 50,000,000+ Americans who fall into higher risk categories due to age and ill health, and depending on how many were to catch it, their chance of dying is about 15%, which turns into the millions of dead pretty darned quickly. |
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User ID: 55831878 United States 03/31/2020 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC. Quoting: Doc Savage Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges. U.S. Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000 MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000 DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children) [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Here are the U.S. COVID-19 stats as of March 31, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 175,669 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 22,000 DEATHS: 3,424 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] World Health Organization mid-line estimate for Influenza during 2019-2020 Flu Season: GLOBAL DEATHS: 470,000 TOTAL GLOBAL COVID-19 DEATHS AS OF 3/31/20: 37,272 TRUTH BOMB! The Virus-tards will say, well wait 2 weeks lol Its always 2 weeks. Cast upon this earth against my will Waiting patiently to go home |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77331063 United States 03/31/2020 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC. Quoting: Doc Savage Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges. U.S. Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000 MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000 DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children) [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Here are the U.S. COVID-19 stats as of March 31, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 175,669 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 22,000 DEATHS: 3,424 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] World Health Organization mid-line estimate for Influenza during 2019-2020 Flu Season: GLOBAL DEATHS: 470,000 TOTAL GLOBAL COVID-19 DEATHS AS OF 3/31/20: 37,272 U.S. flu death rate: .01% U.S. Covid death rate right now with no overwhelmed hospitals: 2% Worldwide Covid death rate (based on your numbers): 8% So if there were 46,000,000 Covid cases (which there would eventually be with no social distancing, then there would be 920,000 deaths in the US if the death rate doesn’t change and 3.6 million deaths of our death rate rises to the world death rate. Wake TF up. that death rate is a LIE. That death rate is of CONFIRMED CASES. Many people have it and are not counted among the confirmed. The death rate is probably closer to 0.2% |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74909447 United States 03/31/2020 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 You could have gotten the flu shot if you had wanted to avoid it. It was on spot with the correct virus this year. Quoting: GA Girl There is no shot available for coronavirus. Also, keep in mind that if we weren't taking these measures, there are 50,000,000+ Americans who fall into higher risk categories due to age and ill health, and depending on how many were to catch it, their chance of dying is about 15%, which turns into the millions of dead pretty darned quickly. You're speaking to death ears here. The Qtards and Trump Worshippers (I'll vote for him again btw) would never dare criticize their idols. They change their opinions daily based on anon posts, tweets, random twitter replies, and from YouTube videos. Their outlook on covid-19 has changed drastically over the past month to fit their group thought sheep mentality |
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Jungleboogie
User ID: 76648271 Canada 03/31/2020 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC. Quoting: Doc Savage Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges. U.S. Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000 MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000 DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children) Interesting Doc, Let's take the 200,000 estimated covid deaths total and work that backwards through those ratios: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 80 million MEDICAL VISITS: 40 million HOSPITALIZATIONS: 2.2 million DEATHS: 200,000 That would be crammed into a month and a half instead of the six months, wow. That lines up with Cuomo raising the amount of ICUs needed from 110,000 to 140,000 for New York alone. Some of those ICUs will be used 2 or 3 times within that time period of course. The final stats will depend if the US starts playing with the official death count moving the goalposts as to what determines covid death like China did and Italy's equally BS numbers. Last Edited by Jungleboogie on 03/31/2020 05:11 PM Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
The Lathe Of Heaven
User ID: 77515983 United Kingdom 03/31/2020 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC. Quoting: Doc Savage Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges. U.S. Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000 MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000 DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children) [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Here are the U.S. COVID-19 stats as of March 31, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 175,669 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 22,000 DEATHS: 3,424 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] World Health Organization mid-line estimate for Influenza during 2019-2020 Flu Season: GLOBAL DEATHS: 470,000 TOTAL GLOBAL COVID-19 DEATHS AS OF 3/31/20: 37,272 U.S. flu death rate: .01% U.S. Covid death rate right now with no overwhelmed hospitals: 2% Worldwide Covid death rate (based on your numbers): 8% So if there were 46,000,000 Covid cases (which there would eventually be with no social distancing, then there would be 920,000 deaths in the US if the death rate doesn’t change and 3.6 million deaths of our death rate rises to the world death rate. Wake TF up. Yes, my mind is groggy, yet within seconds of reading OPs post and the figures given, i could in a glance do the maths and see what this poster sees, that the death rate of the given cases so far is 50 times (in my opinion) to 100 times higher. The next poster said he would extrapolate the figures but as i said im groggy and jumped to the last page and seeing this poster is of the same opinion i was slightly reassured that i was not missing something though some folk are. As i said i just jumped in so maybe i missed something. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77202143 Canada 03/31/2020 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 I'll use statistics from Italy and extrapolate to the USAs population and compare them to OPs flu related deaths. Quoting: Tassie Lurker Currently Italy has a population of 60 million. They have lost just under 12,500 lives so far, with deaths not in decline (has not peaked yet). If we extrapolate the death rate to the USAs current population, 327 million, just over 68,000 would have died so far... Italy's covid19 deaths have occurred in just ONE month, so lets times the USAs deaths, 68k, by 12.. around 820,000 deaths compared to the estimated 43k flu related deaths.. Imagine if Italy had not shut down, had not taken any precautions.. Covid19 smashes the flu, if you use Italy's stats. Nobody know what happens in Italy. If you extrapolate their numbers on our current conditions, they are 100x bigger. Which is really weird. Either creative accounting or people there dying from something else (i.e. flu vaccine or 5g) |
Jake
User ID: 77849624 United States 03/31/2020 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 Thread: U.S. Coronavirus Death Rates Plummet To 0.66% And Will Likely Continue To Fall to zero Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Doc Savage
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 03/31/2020 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC. Quoting: Doc Savage Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges. U.S. Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000 MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000 HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000 DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children) Interesting Doc, Let's take the 200,000 estimated covid deaths total and work that backwards through those ratios: TOTAL ILLNESSES: 80 million MEDICAL VISITS: 40 million HOSPITALIZATIONS: 2.2 million DEATHS: 200,000 That would be crammed into a month and a half instead of the six months, wow. That lines up with Cuomo raising the amount of ICUs needed from 110,000 to 140,000 for New York alone. Some of those ICUs will be used 2 or 3 times within that time period of course. The final stats will depend if the US starts playing with the official death count moving the goalposts as to what determines covid death like China did and Italy's equally BS numbers. By the best estimates, COVID-19 is going to hit its peak in the U.S. sometime during the next few weeks. With that, and with effective treatments now being distributed, there's no way today's U.S. death total of 3,424 is going to balloon to anywhere near 200,000. |
Footluv1111
User ID: 78318678 United States 03/31/2020 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19 I believe we are in the death throes of a dying and antiquated system and way of life. Everyone is so scared, not only about catching this virus, but also scared of giving up their way of life. When you really step back and look at it objectively, why is this a bad thing? The global financial system is a house of cards just waiting to fall. We have propped it up for decades with lies and smoke and mirrors. through our own greed we were happy to look the other way. But what has our greed really brought us? Its brought us overpopulation, the destruction of our environment, the destruction of our spirituality. Our greed has left us in a state of fear, anxiety and anger. And if you don't believe it just look at how people are panic buying and hoarding supplies, and toilet paper of all things. Gun and ammunition sales have gone up over 200%, and for what? Fear. Men in the United States cling to our guns like scared little boys. Sure they talk a big game but when it comes right down to it, they are frightened and scared. Some even talk and worry of Marshall law. And you need to ask yourself honestly, what would you do if they ever came to your door and asked you to turn over your guns? I'll tell you what you will do, you will hand them over. You won't like it. You won't agree with it, but you will hand them over. Sure there will be a few that fight it but 99.9% of Americans will hand over their guns. And if that leads to an evolution of society I welcome it. We need to let the old system die, and embrace a new system. A system not based in fear and the acquisition of more and more possessions and unsustainable growth. I think the human race is at the beginning of an evolution. An evolution into a new system where the acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. A system in which we work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity. Without a doubt people will be forced into this new way of living, many kicking and screaming because they don't want to give up what they know. But in the end we will all be equal, and better for it. Footluv1111 |