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Something is very wrong with death classification...

 
Bright Side
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03/31/2020 07:11 PM

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As some of you know, I had a close family member die very recently. While they had been ill for a long time, their death was still quite sudden and unexpected because they went from maintaining to dead in a matter of days.

This person had a very specific DNR and they were never intubated however supplemental comfort oxygen and morphine for labored breathing were given toward the end.

We got the death certificate today and it was listed as likely coronavirus infection based not on facts but on the disease progression and end of life treatments.

I can guarantee you had this person's death taken place 10 years ago it would have gone the exact same way. Coronavirus was not a factor.

Additionally, I know of other cases where people have recently "died of COVID-19" but there was never a positive diagnosis, just all based on disease progression and treatment protocols. I can guarantee you these people were already dying of something else but those CODs were hijacked.

Apparently, if breathing treatments, intubation, supplemental oxygen or morphine due to labored breathing are any part of a person's end of life circumstances, they are diagnosed as likely Covid infection.

Don't believe me? I don't care but go ahead and call around to your local funeral homes and ask them if they are overrun or if they can help you if you need their services.

The fact is there is no crazy uptick in the number of deaths that happen on any given day for numerous reasons. Funeral homes aren't running out of space. Crematoriums aren't running 24/7.

Think people.

Is coronavirus a thing? Absolutely. It is real and contagious. But how likely are these same people dying of it also likely to be dead soon anyway?

This is very upsetting. I feel like something has been stolen from my grieving when I saw the death certificate today.
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There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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03/31/2020 07:20 PM

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Re: Something is very wrong with death classification...
As some of you know, I had a close family member die very recently. While they had been ill for a long time, their death was still quite sudden and unexpected because they went from maintaining to dead in a matter of days.

This person had a very specific DNR and they were never intubated however supplemental comfort oxygen and morphine for labored breathing were given toward the end.

We got the death certificate today and it was listed as likely coronavirus infection based not on facts but on the disease progression and end of life treatments.

I can guarantee you had this person's death taken place 10 years ago it would have gone the exact same way. Coronavirus was not a factor.

Additionally, I know of other cases where people have recently "died of COVID-19" but there was never a positive diagnosis, just all based on disease progression and treatment protocols. I can guarantee you these people were already dying of something else but those CODs were hijacked.

Apparently, if breathing treatments, intubation, supplemental oxygen or morphine due to labored breathing are any part of a person's end of life circumstances, they are diagnosed as likely Covid infection.

Don't believe me? I don't care but go ahead and call around to your local funeral homes and ask them if they are overrun or if they can help you if you need their services.

The fact is there is no crazy uptick in the number of deaths that happen on any given day for numerous reasons. Funeral homes aren't running out of space. Crematoriums aren't running 24/7.

Think people.

Is coronavirus a thing? Absolutely. It is real and contagious. But how likely are these same people dying of it also likely to be dead soon anyway?

This is very upsetting. I feel like something has been stolen from my grieving when I saw the death certificate today.
 Quoting: Bright Side


Well, this kind of makes sense. Especially if you have a comorbidity. They need to keep this hyped so we stay inside and scared and compliant. Is there a virus worse than a bad flu? I dont fucking know anymore. I bounce between opinions but I do know they are using Covid-19 as an umbrella cause for alot of deaths. Crazy times. Thanks for the post
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03/31/2020 07:24 PM

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Re: Something is very wrong with death classification...
Also I just want to add that myself, my kids as well as a ton of other family were super close, kissing, hugging, crying. For days. With him, with each other.

In and out of the hospital, a cardiac rehab and later home with at least a dozen different healthcare workers coming into the house.

2 weeks later and we are all still healthy as horses.

Shouldn't we have caught it?
Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone.

There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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03/31/2020 07:29 PM

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Ahh the wonderful one star bandit.

Taking someone's personal experience and calling it BS.

This isn't a dissertation to be proven or disproven.

But whatever. Like I suggested in the OP why don't you do some calling around to funeral homes and find out for yourself whether or not they're suddenly overrun with bodies. The fact is the death rate is minimally higher if at all.

We are just taking all the deaths that would have happened anyway and calling them Coronavirus because you can click off a few boxes on their end of life care...
Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone.

There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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Bump for today.

I can't believe no one wants to see the problem here.
Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone.

There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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The real mortality rate for healthy people who have the virus is around .00020. That is people without serious co-morbidities, but truth is those co-morbidities would probably make the flu a death sentence too.

We have committed economic suicide for what reason?

Look at the death toll stats... has it occurred to you it is blue states "winning" the death toll?

These cases that I spoke of in my OP are all from very liberal, northeastern states...

Does GLP really not see a problem?
Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone.

There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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04/02/2020 10:41 AM
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Yeah, all the deaths are recorded as Corona whether you die WITH or OF Corona.

Look at Germany for the most accurate death rate, they are sticklers for that kind of thing.
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bump for real Intel!!!
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04/02/2020 10:55 AM
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Re: Something is very wrong with death classification...
It all about insurance.

Life insurance doesn't cover PANDEMIC
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04/02/2020 11:05 AM
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This is the way it works in a pandemic ... Everybody who dies, the cause of death is always the virus. Even if the person shot themselves in the head, twice.
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fake comorbids and crisis actors and made up people that never existed
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04/02/2020 11:18 AM
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Re: Something is very wrong with death classification...
Do you think some places with a small number of infections might actually be zero?
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04/02/2020 12:32 PM
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It all about insurance.

Life insurance doesn't cover PANDEMIC
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This article says that life insurance DOES cover Covid-19.

Americans who have life insurance will be covered should they die from Covid-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus, but those who lack coverage or are underinsured should consider moving soon before coverage options dry up.

[link to www.barrons.com (secure)]

For new policies being taken out? Life insurance companies may charge higher premiums, etc.

An interesting article for those with the time to read it.
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It all about insurance.

Life insurance doesn't cover PANDEMIC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78514527


This article says that life insurance DOES cover Covid-19.

Americans who have life insurance will be covered should they die from Covid-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus, but those who lack coverage or are underinsured should consider moving soon before coverage options dry up.

[link to www.barrons.com (secure)]

For new policies being taken out? Life insurance companies may charge higher premiums, etc.

An interesting article for those with the time to read it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76288549


Most life insurance does not actually cover you for 2 years. It's in the fine print.
Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone.

There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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Re: Something is very wrong with death classification...
This is the way it works in a pandemic ... Everybody who dies, the cause of death is always the virus. Even if the person shot themselves in the head, twice.
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How many people normally die in a year in USA?





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