Hoax or Real? Please, let's have a civil and courteous discussion.

Do you really think your dear leaders care about your life?

They dont. Its not a hoax but it is being manipulated and exaggerated to strip what is left of your rights and see just how much you can take without fighting back.

It’s not just the “instant death” toll from this disease that’s so terrifying (although so far it is around 6% or so, double the Spanish flu) , but it is the unknown factor here, “death from complications” that for all we know could wind up being very high. My personal supposition, is that this virus, stays in the body , and manifests itself in a manner injurious to organs, or becomes a systemic illness (think chickenpox/shingles) . Not to mention what we DO know, it causes pulmonary fibrosis in some patients, and destroys the immune system (airborne AIDS) [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]
So let’s not split hairs here people, it’s not quite HIV, because HIV (a retrovirus) takes 10-20 years to torch your T-Cells. Covid19 , takes maybe a month. And while it is not caused by HIV so it’s not technically AIDS, it reduces your T cells, and CD4 cells to a sub 400 level. Which is what AIDS is. Somebody on GLP called it COronaVirusImmunoDeficiency19. They were right.

A courteous discussion on GLP?

I believe it may be a genuine fake.

yes. what we know is scary enough. what we don't know, like reinfections, or long term effects...