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Does anyone who was a kid in the late 70's early 80's recall having strange tests performed on them at school?

 
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every once in a while, once a month or so, they'd take the "GT" kids out of class and put us in a classroom/or usually an office back in the depths of the campus and do a few tests, i remember the one with the headphones that would emit a certain tone, and then you'd have to identify which tone it was that was the "control" tone..

some written tests that involved simple patterns and mechanical type questions..

then you went back to regular school and didnt hear anything else about it until next time they did it.
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That was a hearing test, dip shit. And GT students didn't ride the short bus, like you did.
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GT and AP. (AP being advanced placement).
In elementary I remember being pulled from regular class a couple times a week for "special" classes with work from a grade or two above the grade we were in.
By the time I got to Jr high, it was called "honors" classes which basically amounted to doubled homework loads. Only bonus to being in honors was the special art class twice a week where we got bussed across town to the art museum for a few hours. High school AP was just even MORE homework so I transferred into regular classes.

As for the weird testing with the tones and inkblot tests... I do remember those but they weren't done in a van or anything, the tests were conducted in the private councilors rooms my elementary had up front in the office area.

A little off topic... two days ago I was digging through some of the boxes of my keepsakes from my childhood & found the "Academic Achievement Award" pin I got in elementary. The card with Ronald Regan's signature is gone, unfortunately.
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I took many of those tests some for English comprehension, however the majority of mine were in mathematics and science.
I understood that they were supposed to be a random selection of students to get a better understanding of how well our education system stacked up against other regions and nations.
The teachers always selected the best and brightest.
Sometimes they had us do them in the library, or an empty classroom. I remember quite a few times a single desk being set up in the boiler room and being left to my own devices to finish the test.
Interestingly I always remember wanting to do my very best always no matter the subject or time, and the secrecy of the staff who would just call us from class.
By the time I was 11 there was only one other doing the tests with me. If I recall, they would sometimes do the mathematics ones two weeks before and after the floride rinse lady was there.
Was a HOBY student. If you don't know then don't worry. This does make me wonder about the MKULTRA programs.
But what they hell do I know? I am just a truck driver now, I used to enjoy it, now I am risking it all to provide goods to people so that they can eat.
I ask myself why am I doing this?
Nobody is providing me with any protective equipment.
The office is in quarantine protection mode and treating us drivers as though we already are infected, yet we do not even get a single glove or dust mask.
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Does anyone who was a kid in the late 70's or early 80's recall being pulled out of class and taken to a large bus or van and having visual, hearing, smell, and possibly taste tests performed on them? As well as some kind of card matching tests and asked to answer a series of increasingly difficult questions . I have vague memory of being asked to perform some kind testing of what now seems like some kind psychological testing. I recall the person performing the tests was not a member of the school faculty. They would take you to a large black bus or tractor trailer that had a large generator and air conditioning in it. I remember it being really cold in there and smelling very sterile.
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Thank you for sharing -
However,
before what I am going to share I want to share that I, too, was taken to a large trailer in the middle of what seemed NO WHERE albiet it was possibly the YMCA, and a field trip, but I can't remember as I was below age of 7 or so. We were there re-enacting Annie the homeless girl.

WEIRD. can't remember much after that..

moved to new state elementary in 90's

I remember being on the school auditorium stage but behind the curtains and people in black with suit cases and such were taking our finger prints and other things its quite blurry. That or it was a dream.

I am quite certain it wasn't a dream but then again maybe I smelled something to forget....or malnutrition from bad parenting food practices and school lunches..

who knows

glad you brought this up though

bumpbumpbump
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Not to mention - after the experience at the new state elementary in the 90's, I was involuntarily put into a 4th grade advanced math club and had to travel statewide (w/ a handful of other kids) to compete in this math club and game. I can't remember the game AT ALL, it wasn't a cube dice but maybe one with a cone and a cube? I can't remember it, but I was GOOD and it came easy... after that I was advanced in multiplication and long division taught to myself by myself. I had really gotten excited about the number 9 then .. So many different strange things that don't make sense when you begin to recall.
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wuzzle = mix
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yonker = young man
baloo = bear
pivey = chiopmonk
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YES, this was some weird shit.
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Does anyone who was a kid in the late 70's or early 80's recall being pulled out of class and taken to a large bus or van and having visual, hearing, smell, and possibly taste tests performed on them? As well as some kind of card matching tests and asked to answer a series of increasingly difficult questions . I have vague memory of being asked to perform some kind testing of what now seems like some kind psychological testing. I recall the person performing the tests was not a member of the school faculty. They would take you to a large black bus or tractor trailer that had a large generator and air conditioning in it. I remember it being really cold in there and smelling very sterile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13255507


Thank you for sharing -
However,
before what I am going to share I want to share that I, too, was taken to a large trailer in the middle of what seemed NO WHERE albiet it was possibly the YMCA, and a field trip, but I can't remember as I was below age of 7 or so. We were there re-enacting Annie the homeless girl.

WEIRD. can't remember much after that..

moved to new state elementary in 90's

I remember being on the school auditorium stage but behind the curtains and people in black with suit cases and such were taking our finger prints and other things its quite blurry. That or it was a dream.

I am quite certain it wasn't a dream but then again maybe I smelled something to forget....or malnutrition from bad parenting food practices and school lunches..

who knows

glad you brought this up though

bumpbumpbump
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Not to mention - after the experience at the new state elementary in the 90's, I was involuntarily put into a 4th grade advanced math club and had to travel statewide (w/ a handful of other kids) to compete in this math club and game. I can't remember the game AT ALL, it wasn't a cube dice but maybe one with a cone and a cube? I can't remember it, but I was GOOD and it came easy... after that I was advanced in multiplication and long division taught to myself by myself. I had really gotten excited about the number 9 then .. So many different strange things that don't make sense when you begin to recall.
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Appears with online research now that I am thinking more about the game and how odd it was I was put into advanced math when I hadn't learned it with confidence then, yet - so I thought. It appears it had to do with Place values (w/ place value DICE) - like Yahtzee for example.
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Does anyone who was a kid in the late 70's or early 80's recall being pulled out of class and taken to a large bus or van and having visual, hearing, smell, and possibly taste tests performed on them? As well as some kind of card matching tests and asked to answer a series of increasingly difficult questions . I have vague memory of being asked to perform some kind testing of what now seems like some kind psychological testing. I recall the person performing the tests was not a member of the school faculty. They would take you to a large black bus or tractor trailer that had a large generator and air conditioning in it. I remember it being really cold in there and smelling very sterile.
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I participated in a study done by the University of Michigan Dentistry School that added a sealer or filler to your teeth to protect them from getting cavities.

The study started when I was grade school and the last visit from the big bus we would go into with all the dental hygienists and dentists who were conducting the study sometime in Junior High.

The bus has like four of five dental chairs in it and we would go it, get a teeth cleaning, then our teeth were examined by the study doctor.

At no time were we anesthetized but for a poor family in Southern Michigan it offered a mobile dentist office and free dental care and I never got cavities in those teeth.
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wuzzle = mix
scuzzle = junk
yonker = young man
baloo = bear
pivey = chiopmonk
 Quoting: Dogfood™


YES, this was some weird shit.
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CAL achievement tests
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I remember a worksheet that we did in 4th grade that was 30 yrs ago.it had a drawing of a cyclops on it with a big eye in his forehead
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It's a rabbit hole, and it's not a fun one.

Start at the beginning.

Thread: Were You Part Of The "Mentally Gifted Minds" Program In California Scools back in the 70's?
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I just skimmed through that link and found this post. I’m more than a little uncomfortable right now. My ancestors are form Bucks county and I trace back to the early 1700’s My father’s side founded Newtown PA, mother’s side late 1600’s

Below is what I copied and pasted from the other thread. Just how many flagged for this program trace back to early America?

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Re: Were You Part Of The "Mentally Gifted Minds" Program In California Scools back in the 70's?
Listen, I found out what’s going on. You can too. Start doing your genealogy as far back as you can. At one point you will be totally blown away at the person you discover is your ancestor, and all your questions will be answered. You will know for sure why they were doing the culling and the investigating.
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My dad's side had nothing notable. My mother's side tracked back to the Buck family of Bucks County PA who also fought in the Revolutionary War. I couldn't trace it any further than that.
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I have royal Welsh ancestry and my ancestors arrived to one of the Colonies in 1634.

My grandfather and his grandfather were named after one of the first post-Revolutionary governors of a former colony. Others in my family were hand-picked to be notable "firsts"...aided in the establishment of a college...

We are not white either...certain minority families are direct descendants of high ranking illumists, templars, masons, revolutionaries...and they are either protected and promoted as examples or very closely watched via programs like TAG.


They were looking for Scarecrows. The Wizard of Oz shows four archetypes they want to control:

- Scarecrow = really intelligent people who can figure out what's going on around them

- Tin Man = industrious types who are self-motivated, highly likely to be entrepreneurial and self-sufficient

- Lion = courageous, patriotic types who love their nation and would oppose a global scheme

- Dorothy = Christians and/or anyone with strong moral fiber that would speak out, stand up against the schemes.
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Interesting..I personally think they were looking for agents and military potential. A lot of former TAG kids ended up enlisting or joining officer ranks. We were indoctrinated with leadership skills and learned McGuyver level tasks pertaining to mechanics, aeronautics and computers that the regular class kids NEVER got. Its like we were being trained on how to figure complex puzzles out or fix broken things.

I worked with Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx in SF in the 1980s setting up AIDs clinic and doing AZT drug testing for patients. They are incredibly intelligent. I totally understand what is going on pandemic-wise. I wonder if this whole thing is a weaponized virus gone bad. Saw it in SF with mycoplasma pneumonia and accidental release there in the late 80s. (Ames research labs)
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CAn you share a link to this accidental release? I cannot find anything about this online. How is walking pneumonia accidentally released?!
I looked up the person who was presented to me as an educator for the program when I first started at age 4. She followed me for 4 years at my school. Her obituary said she was the director of a nursing program at a major university hospital, not a teacher.
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There are never enough TAG certified teachers around...they use whomever they can get if they have a degree...so yeah highly likely she was not a regular teacher in any way. She was conducting university research on gifted kids with the school district's permission. Probably tracking IQs after the vaccines given by mainstream doctors in the 60s-90s.
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Bump!
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I was in the G.A.T.E. program that went to dark places
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Same here, from 3rd through 6th grades.

Does the book title "A Wrinkle In Time" bring about a sense of dread for you?

How about when people talk about the "Hat Man" (google it if you aren't familiar)?

Both are still distinct triggers for me.
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I was in it. A wrinkle in time totally brings on dread with me. WTF? How did they use that book? I can't remember.
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I was in the G.A.T.E. program that went to dark places
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Same here, from 3rd through 6th grades.

Does the book title "A Wrinkle In Time" bring about a sense of dread for you?

How about when people talk about the "Hat Man" (google it if you aren't familiar)?

Both are still distinct triggers for me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75458309


I was in it. A wrinkle in time totally brings on dread with me. WTF? How did they use that book? I can't remember.
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Yes, hat man, but I banished him/her/it.
If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell.
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Does anyone who was a kid in the late 70's or early 80's recall being pulled out of class and taken to a large bus or van and having visual, hearing, smell, and possibly taste tests performed on them? As well as some kind of card matching tests and asked to answer a series of increasingly difficult questions . I have vague memory of being asked to perform some kind testing of what now seems like some kind psychological testing. I recall the person performing the tests was not a member of the school faculty. They would take you to a large black bus or tractor trailer that had a large generator and air conditioning in it. I remember it being really cold in there and smelling very sterile.
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''I remember it being really cold in there and smelling very sterile.''

What are you Hunting, OP ?

What do you mean what am I hunting ?
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Phase Two - Rebuilding the Pieces
2.3.1
Overview:
During phase one, the basic personas were created, and their functions established. Now they must receive further training to fulfill their assigned missions, and thereby fully integrate into a cohesive operational assemblage. Furthermore, the child requires practice to master their psychic abilities and learn to apply them under the direction of their NSA handlers. These tasks are accomplished during phase two. Physical/mental trauma (torture) is still used, but in a less brutal, more
targeted manner. Where phase one was carried out in a torture compound, with the child isolated from their parents/guardian. Phase two is carried out in a more natural setting, over a period of several years, while the child resides with their parents/guardian. During phase two training, the psychic child will visit their trainer once or twice a week, with each session lasting two hours. Retro-grade amnesia is invoked (via persona keying gesture, see 2.2.2) at the end of each session to hide the training (and associated trauma) from the dominate personality and parents/guardian.

Over the years, a number of pediatric care facilities, child psychologists, and family clinics have been co-opted by the NSA, for use in phase two training. The recruitment of child care professionals by the NSA is accomplished through a combination of monetary inducements and targeted telepathic projection of patriotic sentiments/feelings. Given the high cost of medical schooling (and resultant debt), many medical school graduates find it hard to resist NSA overtures. These individuals operate as a shadow group within their respective professional organizations. In the past, many state operated reform schools, mental hospitals, and orphanages also housed covert phase two training centers. Again it was NSA supplied money, that motivated state bureaucrats and elected officials to allow (if not outright condone) such blatantly illegal activities.


2.3.2
The training room:
In some ways, the phase two training room resembles a stripped down version of the phase one torture chamber (2.2.1 figure 1). During most sessions, just two individuals will conduct the training.

A child psychologist, acting as the trainer.
An assistant, who operates and monitors a combined EEG/electrical torture console.

A standard padded medical examination table is used for training sessions. The room is purposely designed to look as innocuous as possible, and will include book shelves, storage cabinets, a desk, chairs, etc. At this point in the training, there is little chance the psychic child will retaliate, so security is less important than making sure the room will pass casual inspection by any outsider who might view its interior (janitors, building maintenance personnel, etc.). During a training session, the entry door is always locked. There will be a small anteroom off the main training room, used in connection with certain forms of psychic training. It will be disguised as an oversized storage room. The training room lights are dimmable, and some method for projecting images on the wall and ceiling (above the training table) will be available.

Every available method is used to separate the training room perceptual experience, from that of the psychic child's normal (dominate personality) environment. Room wall/ceiling color and acoustical treatment, air temperature (below normal, and reminiscent of torture compound), odor, and lighting are all employed to enhance that separation. The trainer also uses a different vocal tone, inflection, and verbal pacing during the training session. The purpose of this separation being to widen the split between the normal world inhabited by the dominate personality, and the perceptual world experienced by personas invoked during the training session.

Like the phase one torture chamber, an IV drip is used on the psychic child during training sessions. However, rather than employing psychoactive drugs intended to heighten pain perception, a mild hypnotic (sedative) is used. In the 1950s the drug of choice was chloral hydrate, one of the few sedatives known that did not suppress EEG response. Since then, the NSA has developed drugs that accomplish the same goal with less harmful side effects. The purpose of the hypnotic is to induce a dream like state. Thereby creating further separation between the psychic child's normal state of (dominate personality) awareness, and the altered mental state wherein the actual phase two training takes place.

Just like the torture compound (2.1.4, 2.2.1), all aspects of a phase two training room are meticulously designed, and carefully controlled.
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Ours was called mentally gifted minors. The only test we took was the original iq test. After that it was field trips to various interesting places. My daughter's was called gate, and she had serious issues during that time period. Reading some comments above, sounds like you remember weird stuff from it
They gave me a stack of books to read on myths, fairy tales etc in like 1st grade I enjoyed those
Added, I pulled her out cause she didnt want to be in it, but never told me anything bad happening with the class..I'm going to ask her
I keep adding to this post hf
I liked the book wrinkle in time, until they ruined it with the movie. It was kind of a joke between God and i..I'd ask can I just have a happy medium, and then picked up the book and it had a happy medium in it..not the same thing of course, but i got the joke, it fit my sense of humor

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