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TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine

 
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So if Trump knows vents are killing people, you know damn well the governor on NY knows that too.
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of course he does, the chief infectious disease dr. of NY

is telling them so.



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So that Dr's claim could be correct?

shiit! this is gonna go down as the worst thing they have pulled off...
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Yes, and the reason for having so many deaths is medical error again, using “modern” untested approach on CV19 patients (ventilators).

Do they have FDA approval for using ventilators on critical CV19 patients? If not why they re asking for approval of 50 year old medicine?

Basically instead of treating the immune system overreaction they wait until patients go critical because of the Oxygen deprivation and put them on ventilator damaging their lungs and essentially killing them
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So if Trump knows vents are killing people, you know damn well the governor on NY knows that too.
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Cuomo doesn't know the difference between shit and fat meat.

Cuomo thinks a football coach is something to ride in.

Cuomo thinks the Mexican border pays rent.

If brains were gasoline, Cuomo wouldn't have enough to power a piss ants motor scooter around a dime.

If brains were dynamite, Cuomo wouldn't have enough to blow his nose.

I think I've made my point.
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I tried to read up on the hydroxychloriquine. The best I can gather is that it helps to reduce the inflammatory process which is why it is used for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.

It can cause heart damage. It can cause hypoglycemia and if someone is on insulin or diabetic drugs they should keep this in mind. It can also cause liver damage with long term/high dose use. From what I am reading, its use may not be ideal for those with underlying problems who are at highest risk of dying from the Covid.
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I take low dose naltrexone for MS, it does the same thing. It also stops cytokine storms. I am hopeful that it will help if I get this disease.
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He meant that when people get sick enough for a vent, they usually don't recover from that point.

He did not mean that the ventilators are killing people. Fools.

You all could work for CNN.
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Might have better chances with an oxygen blood exchanger; Dr. called into Rush with the idea; friend of ours is still alive from mysterious lung infection due to use of that.

The survival rate I heard is about 50% once you go on a ventilator.

They need new or maybe very old remedies for clearing out the lungs.
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What is an oxygen/blood exchanger? How many are available?
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I tried to read up on the hydroxychloriquine. The best I can gather is that it helps to reduce the inflammatory process which is why it is used for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.

It can cause heart damage. It can cause hypoglycemia and if someone is on insulin or diabetic drugs they should keep this in mind. It can also cause liver damage with long term/high dose use. From what I am reading, its use may not be ideal for those with underlying problems who are at highest risk of dying from the Covid.
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It helps get zinc into the cells so they can fight the virus
The course of treatment is about 7 days and costs $20
Read more
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Yes, that is what I heard on Infowars and that is what I read here on the forum. It is also what I believed and regurgitated here in the forum. I finally researched the literature last night. I cannot find a reference to support this.
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You need to research:

"Zinc ionophore".

That is your key to the info conformation you seek.

There are several, Hydroxychloroquin being one.

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I tried to read up on the hydroxychloriquine. The best I can gather is that it helps to reduce the inflammatory process which is why it is used for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.

It can cause heart damage. It can cause hypoglycemia and if someone is on insulin or diabetic drugs they should keep this in mind. It can also cause liver damage with long term/high dose use. From what I am reading, its use may not be ideal for those with underlying problems who are at highest risk of dying from the Covid.
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I take low dose naltrexone for MS, it does the same thing. It also stops cytokine storms. I am hopeful that it will help if I get this disease.
 Quoting: girlie45


From what I am reading, this does seem like the benefit of the hydroxychloriquine. Good luck to you. Stay safe!

hf
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I tried to read up on the hydroxychloriquine. The best I can gather is that it helps to reduce the inflammatory process which is why it is used for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.

It can cause heart damage. It can cause hypoglycemia and if someone is on insulin or diabetic drugs they should keep this in mind. It can also cause liver damage with long term/high dose use. From what I am reading, its use may not be ideal for those with underlying problems who are at highest risk of dying from the Covid.
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It helps get zinc into the cells so they can fight the virus
The course of treatment is about 7 days and costs $20
Read more
 Quoting: dodger007


Yes, that is what I heard on Infowars and that is what I read here on the forum. It is also what I believed and regurgitated here in the forum. I finally researched the literature last night. I cannot find a reference to support this.
 Quoting: Pees and Ques


You need to research:

"Zinc ionophore".

That is your key to the info conformation you seek.

There are several, Hydroxychloroquin being one.

bf88
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Ok, I did look that up. In fact, I saw where two types of these stopped the replication of some types of virus. Thanks.

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Once you're on a vent the hospital committee will decide when you come off(Death Panel) if you can't wean off yourself. Michael Dowling, on Face the Nation,pretty much admitted to the guidelines being circulated in his institution. Believe him. If you costs the hospitals too much, off you come. Better to social distance.
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Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims!
Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately.
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Hey! Someone who both has a brain AND pays attention to what is being said!

The issue is not one of vents "killing" people. The issue is that, once a patient requires a vent, the damage is already done and they have a low chance of survival.
 Quoting: Gnarlin


Yes, need to take care of it at early stage. China have Proven TCM protocols for various early stages before it turns critical.
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So if Trump knows vents are killing people, you know damn well the governor on NY knows that too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77339651


of course he does, the chief infectious disease dr. of NY

is telling them so.



 Quoting: Jake


So that Dr's claim could be correct?

shiit! this is gonna go down as the worst thing they have pulled off...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76609157




Medical costs are too high and people are living too long. They are just trimming the dead weight.
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That is precisely how I view it, from the slow response, to the no/bad testing, to saying masks are not needed, the list goes on and on, and on. They want at least 20% dead worldwide. 5-10% in western world is acceptable, 20% in 3rd world would be champagne time for them. "Plandemic''
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Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims!
Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately.
 Quoting: Grateful1


Hey! Someone who both has a brain AND pays attention to what is being said!

The issue is not one of vents "killing" people. The issue is that, once a patient requires a vent, the damage is already done and they have a low chance of survival.
 Quoting: Gnarlin


Yes, need to take care of it at early stage. China have Proven TCM protocols for various early stages before it turns critical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73028959

For critical cases, they are doing antibody blood transfusion and lung stem cell therapy.
As Trump said, he will speak to anyone if helps. Life saving no longer political or saving face. Country with more data and earlier start will have better analytical solutions.
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Who pinned this sh:t?? Trump said no such thing. It is a fact that when people are sick with pneumonia to the point of needing a ventilator, they are at deaths door-- and it would be wonderful if we found a cheap and effective medicine that could prevent CoV19 patients from getting so far gone
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Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims!
Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately.
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Hey! Someone who both has a brain AND pays attention to what is being said!

The issue is not one of vents "killing" people. The issue is that, once a patient requires a vent, the damage is already done and they have a low chance of survival.
 Quoting: Gnarlin


Yes, need to take care of it at early stage. China have Proven TCM protocols for various early stages before it turns critical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73028959


No, the problem is vent treatment assumes that you have a way to kill/remove pathogens that cause your immune system overreaction. In case of bacterial pneumonia they use antibiotics.

With CV19 they don’t have anything that they can use after they put people on ventilators. That’s why probability of death grows from regular 15% to more than 50%. Even if you put healthy person on ventilator, probability of death is pretty high.

In short, they are using untested treatment on CV19 critical patients but using the bacterial pneumonia protocol but without the main item (availability of a drug that kills pathogens). Not better than trying other “untested” approaches but it seems much worse than other alternatives.
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Yeah that's true. Hospitals in general kill people. If you're admitted to a hospital you're life expectancy suddenly drops dramatically! Better stay clear of any hospitals!
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It helps get zinc into the cells so they can fight the virus
The course of treatment is about 7 days and costs $20
Read more
 Quoting: dodger007


Yes, that is what I heard on Infowars and that is what I read here on the forum. It is also what I believed and regurgitated here in the forum. I finally researched the literature last night. I cannot find a reference to support this.
 Quoting: Pees and Ques


You need to research:

"Zinc ionophore".

That is your key to the info conformation you seek.

There are several, Hydroxychloroquin being one.

bf88
 Quoting: Trained Noticer


Ok, I did look that up. In fact, I saw where two types of these stopped the replication of some types of virus. Thanks.
 Quoting: Pees and Ques


Also it seems that the antibiotic azithromycin ( used in combo treatment) is what causes heart issues, not the hydroxy. This doctor experimented with a different combo
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Yeah that's true. Hospitals in general kill people. If you're admitted to a hospital you're life expectancy suddenly drops dramatically! Better stay clear of any hospitals!
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250,000 - 440,000 people die in US every year from medical errors.
So far even botched CV19 numbers are around 7,000.

So yes, statistically speaking western treatment is more than 10x more deadly than CV19. And we don’t crash economy because of that.
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Ventalators are a last ditch effort
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Yeah that's true. Hospitals in general kill people. If you're admitted to a hospital you're life expectancy suddenly drops dramatically! Better stay clear of any hospitals!
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250,000 - 440,000 people die in US every year from medical errors.
So far even botched CV19 numbers are around 7,000.

So yes, statistically speaking western treatment is more than 10x more deadly than CV19. And we don’t crash economy because of that.
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I think you sort of missed my point. What's the one common thing for people admitted to a hospital? The hospital. Therefore cause of death is hospital. Not the treatment nor the condition they were treated for, the hospital. It's exactly the same with ventilators. If 50% of people put into ventilators die, the cause has to be the ventilator. Not the reason they were put there nor the fact that ventilators are used for treating people in their death throes. IT'S THE FUCKING VENTILATOR THAT'S KILLING THEM!!! AAARGH!!! HEAD FOR THE HILLS!!! THE VENTILATORS ARE TAKING OVER!!!
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Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims!
Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately.
 Quoting: Grateful1


Hey! Someone who both has a brain AND pays attention to what is being said!

The issue is not one of vents "killing" people. The issue is that, once a patient requires a vent, the damage is already done and they have a low chance of survival.
 Quoting: Gnarlin


Yes, need to take care of it at early stage. China have Proven TCM protocols for various early stages before it turns critical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73028959


No, the problem is vent treatment assumes that you have a way to kill/remove pathogens that cause your immune system overreaction. In case of bacterial pneumonia they use antibiotics.

With CV19 they don’t have anything that they can use after they put people on ventilators. That’s why probability of death grows from regular 15% to more than 50%. Even if you put healthy person on ventilator, probability of death is pretty high.

In short, they are using untested treatment on CV19 critical patients but using the bacterial pneumonia protocol but without the main item (availability of a drug that kills pathogens). Not better than trying other “untested” approaches but it seems much worse than other alternatives.
 Quoting: dmk


True, US had a late start so do not hav enough casa data to sstablish
Correct protocols.
Country with more data cases and earlier start will have better analytical
Solutions.. For critical cases, they are already using antibody transfusion and lung
Stem cell therapy.
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I heard the "ventilators" are for the children that are being brought out from the underground dumbs.

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Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims!
Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately.
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Hey! Someone who both has a brain AND pays attention to what is being said!

The issue is not one of vents "killing" people. The issue is that, once a patient requires a vent, the damage is already done and they have a low chance of survival.
 Quoting: Gnarlin


The ventilator only pumps air into youre lungs but doesnt suck out any fluid build up, is that what is really killing people the fluid build up ?
Just passing thru.
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I tried to read up on the hydroxychloriquine. The best I can gather is that it helps to reduce the inflammatory process which is why it is used for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.

It can cause heart damage. It can cause hypoglycemia and if someone is on insulin or diabetic drugs they should keep this in mind. It can also cause liver damage with long term/high dose use. From what I am reading, its use may not be ideal for those with underlying problems who are at highest risk of dying from the Covid.
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PARACETAMOL, IBUPROPHEN "may" cause serious side effects. ANY drug "can". Are you some kind of stupid?
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Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims!
Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately.
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I learned through research few years ago that outcomes on patients that had to be put on ventilators were worse than treatment avoiding them. I refused to let the hospital put my mom on vent when she had pneumonia after bad experience with my dad being put on one. They said it was essential for survival but she did fine with just antibiotics and fully recovered without one. I also, learned morphine suppresses breathing if you have a lung issue. Yet, they routinely give it to people with pneumonia or COPD patients.
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Who pinned this sh:t?? Trump said no such thing. It is a fact that when people are sick with pneumonia to the point of needing a ventilator, they are at deaths door-- and it would be wonderful if we found a cheap and effective medicine that could prevent CoV19 patients from getting so far gone
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They can still survive with antibiotics and cpap machine without vent in many cases and have better outcome.
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Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims!
Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately.
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Hey! Someone who both has a brain AND pays attention to what is being said!

The issue is not one of vents "killing" people. The issue is that, once a patient requires a vent, the damage is already done and they have a low chance of survival.
 Quoting: Gnarlin


The ventilator only pumps air into youre lungs but doesnt suck out any fluid build up, is that what is really killing people the fluid build up ?
 Quoting: NasTraDooMis


Coronas dont cause pulmonar "fluid" build ups.
BACTERIAL pneumonia, tuberculosis and INFLUENZA does.

NO ONE with WET cough should ever be taken to ventilators but be massively treated with ampicillin in serious cases not positive in (very quick, sorological) tests of tuberculosis and h1n1.
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Ventilators also, take away your voice on what happens to you. Whether you live or die and what treatment you get is left to doctors and often families that totally trust everything doctors and hospital staff say. They can be told no chance for your survival and stop really trying to treat you once family signs DNR. They can slowly dehydrate you and pump you full of morphine. Last option should be ventilators.
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Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims!
Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately.
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Hey! Someone who both has a brain AND pays attention to what is being said!

The issue is not one of vents "killing" people. The issue is that, once a patient requires a vent, the damage is already done and they have a low chance of survival.
 Quoting: Gnarlin


The ventilator only pumps air into youre lungs but doesnt suck out any fluid build up, is that what is really killing people the fluid build up ?
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[link to youtu.be (secure)]

Dr. roger Seheult / medcram. This doctor knows. He explains how ventilators kills in some cases.
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I tried to read up on the hydroxychloriquine. The best I can gather is that it helps to reduce the inflammatory process which is why it is used for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.

It can cause heart damage. It can cause hypoglycemia and if someone is on insulin or diabetic drugs they should keep this in mind. It can also cause liver damage with long term/high dose use. From what I am reading, its use may not be ideal for those with underlying problems who are at highest risk of dying from the Covid.
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Its prescribed like candy for malaria and should be harmless for a prescription of 5-7 days.
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Spread this people. Now we know why cuomo needs 40,000 ventilators





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