TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine | |
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Redcat User ID: 78210603 United States 04/05/2020 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine I tried to read up on the hydroxychloriquine. The best I can gather is that it helps to reduce the inflammatory process which is why it is used for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus. Quoting: Pees and Ques It can cause heart damage. It can cause hypoglycemia and if someone is on insulin or diabetic drugs they should keep this in mind. It can also cause liver damage with long term/high dose use. From what I am reading, its use may not be ideal for those with underlying problems who are at highest risk of dying from the Covid. It opens up the cells to let zinc in to fight the virus inside the cells. This property is the key. Its impact on the heart is that, when mixed with other medications, it can cause QT elongation - i.e. slowing the heart until it does not pump blood well. That is bad. But it is long term potential but highly unlikely side effect. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78723160 United States 04/05/2020 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims! Quoting: Grateful1 Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately. No that's not what the doctor is saying. He said (and maybe it was in the second shorter video he released) that the high pressures they were using were damaging peoples lungs. He goes on to state that ventilators may still be needed but they need to be calibrated to a lower pressure. The ventilators are being improperly used because they are calibrated to treat ARDS. The patients he's treating don't have ARDS but protocols are dictating he treat them like they do. Also, you don't get to demand shit around here shill. Fuck off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74430975 United States 04/05/2020 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims! Quoting: Grateful1 Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately. They will just say something stupid about every life counts and the 99.9% of people should suffer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76999286 United States 04/05/2020 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims! Quoting: Grateful1 Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately. Sorry, your warning will fall on deaf ears from the most gullible. For goodness sake never contradict their God Trump whose speech is so incoherent that it is difficult to ascertain his meaning. Maybe you don't have the ears to hear. Who's your master? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77512118 United States 04/05/2020 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine He meant that when people get sick enough for a vent, they usually don't recover from that point. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78746431 He did not mean that the ventilators are killing people. Fools. You all could work for CNN. DO you know a vent if to take over for muscles too weak to do their job? THAT is not the problem in young people. It is OXYGEN STARVATION. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77051559 04/05/2020 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine I tried to read up on the hydroxychloriquine. The best I can gather is that it helps to reduce the inflammatory process which is why it is used for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus. Quoting: Pees and Ques It can cause heart damage. It can cause hypoglycemia and if someone is on insulin or diabetic drugs they should keep this in mind. It can also cause liver damage with long term/high dose use. From what I am reading, its use may not be ideal for those with underlying problems who are at highest risk of dying from the Covid. hydroxychloriquine is an ionic that opens the cell wall so zinc can enter the cell and destroy the virus. 200 mg of hydroxychloriquine for 5 days isn't going to damage shit. Get sick and start the protocol. Don't wait until your lungs start collapsing. A blister pack of hydroxychloriquine and some zinc is cheap, and won't kill you even if you misdiagnosis. That's what I understand. I'm not a doctor. |
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User ID: 78234359 United States 04/05/2020 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine I tried to read up on the hydroxychloriquine. The best I can gather is that it helps to reduce the inflammatory process which is why it is used for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus. Quoting: Pees and Ques It can cause heart damage. It can cause hypoglycemia and if someone is on insulin or diabetic drugs they should keep this in mind. It can also cause liver damage with long term/high dose use. From what I am reading, its use may not be ideal for those with underlying problems who are at highest risk of dying from the Covid. It helps get zinc into the cells so they can fight the virus The course of treatment is about 7 days and costs $20 Read more Yes, that is what I heard on Infowars and that is what I read here on the forum. It is also what I believed and regurgitated here in the forum. I finally researched the literature last night. I cannot find a reference to support this. Key words: zinc ionosphore |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69540926 United States 04/05/2020 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine So if Trump knows vents are killing people, you know damn well the governor on NY knows that too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77339651 of course he does, the chief infectious disease dr. of NY is telling them so. So that Dr's claim could be correct? shiit! this is gonna go down as the worst thing they have pulled off... Sounds like patients need ECHMO support. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] [link to www.sts.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16762662 United States 04/05/2020 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims! Quoting: Grateful1 Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately. We have a new group of GLP posters that consistently post bald face lies, the exact opposite often, of any truth. It's gotten annoying. It's not even entertaining. These stupid threads should be deleted or the header corrected to include a fact of some sort. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77051559 04/05/2020 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims! Quoting: Grateful1 Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately. We have a new group of GLP posters that consistently post bald face lies, the exact opposite often, of any truth. It's gotten annoying. It's not even entertaining. These stupid threads should be deleted or the header corrected to include a fact of some sort. Welcome to Share Blue social media. These phone zombie fucks don't care that you are annoyed. They want to annoy and fuck over anyone over 25. Remember that when you encounter one of these motherfucker in real life who needs you help. Let them die. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75867817 United States 04/05/2020 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims! Quoting: Grateful1 Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately. We have a new group of GLP posters that consistently post bald face lies, the exact opposite often, of any truth. It's gotten annoying. It's not even entertaining. These stupid threads should be deleted or the header corrected to include a fact of some sort. Quite frankly the old dulce alien base stories were more believable than the trumptard posts being made here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77684474 United States 04/05/2020 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims! Quoting: Grateful1 Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately. We have a new group of GLP posters that consistently post bald face lies, the exact opposite often, of any truth. It's gotten annoying. It's not even entertaining. These stupid threads should be deleted or the header corrected to include a fact of some sort. Quite frankly the old dulce alien base stories were more believable than the trumptard posts being made here. You are a fucking liar, and not a good one. He talks about ventilators and hydro-c from 1:30:50-1:33:03 and he says nothing about ventilators being a last resort. Among similarly thinly-veiled veiled statements, he says explicitly that "you know the answer to what does happen (when someone goes on a ventiltor)." I know you're too stupid to make any inferences from that, which is why the OP did you the kind service of spelling it out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78723160 United States 04/05/2020 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine There's a hardcore attempt in this thread to discredit not only the OP but the doctor in the video. For those of you who haven't seen the video(s) this good doctor put out, here is the gist of what he's saying. - Doctors are using the ventilators in such a fashion as to treat symptoms of Acute respiratory distress syndrome. (ARDS) High pressure oxygen is pumped into the lungs forcing them open when the patient can no longer do this for themself. -The patients this doctor is seeing aren't displaying typical ARDS symptoms but rather are displaying symptoms closer to pulmonary edema which is also called high altitude sickness. Pulmonary edema occurs when the alveoli fill up with excess fluid seeped out of the blood vessels in the lung instead of air. This can cause problems with the exchange of gas (oxygen and carbon dioxide), resulting in breathing difficulty and poor oxygenation of blood. Sometimes, this can be referred to as "water in the lungs" when describing the condition to patients. Basically, the patients are being starved of oxygen. -This doctor states he believes the treatment protocols are incorrect and believes using the ventilators in a fashion as to treat ARDS actually damages the lungs of the patients he's treating and is actually making their condition worse. -He states that it's difficult to change the protocols because the medical community assumes they are dealing with viral pneumonia when in fact he believes they are dealing with an entirely new disease that doesn't respond to ARDS treatment but is actually made worse by it. - He states ventilators can still be of use but that they need to be recalibrated to treat the symptoms he's seeing properly. -He asks other doctors for help in changing the protocols used in treating patients who as of now are being ventilated. |
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User ID: 78259322 United States 04/05/2020 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine So if Trump knows vents are killing people, you know damn well the governor on NY knows that too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77339651 . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77051559 04/05/2020 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims! Quoting: Grateful1 Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately. We have a new group of GLP posters that consistently post bald face lies, the exact opposite often, of any truth. It's gotten annoying. It's not even entertaining. These stupid threads should be deleted or the header corrected to include a fact of some sort. Quite frankly the old dulce alien base stories were more believable than the trumptard posts being made here. Quite frankly, the only thing between you and Bill Gates' mandatory Corona vaccine and chip is President Trump. That you are too stupid to figure that out, is quite believable. You 100 IQ, completely ordinary, unaccomplished, dull motherfucker. Thread: Bill Gates to ABC News: "until YOU'RE more widely vaccinated" social gathering activities "may not come back at all" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20511854 Canada 04/05/2020 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine So if Trump knows vents are killing people, you know damn well the governor on NY knows that too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77339651 of course he does, the chief infectious disease dr. of NY is telling them so. So that Dr's claim could be correct? shiit! this is gonna go down as the worst thing they have pulled off... Medical costs are too high and people are living too long. They are just trimming the dead weight. yet you can bail out the bankers again for 6 Trillion |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77051559 04/05/2020 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine Listen again! He most certainly did NOT say what you are claiming here. He is saying that at the point of ventelation it’s already more than likely a lost cause. Some people survive them but they put you on them when there is nothing else they can do for you like a desperation move. You freaking people need to get a closer grip on reality before you end up having someone believe your bullshit and end up dying because of your FALSE claims! Quoting: Grateful1 Please either correct the thread title or remove it immediately. We have a new group of GLP posters that consistently post bald face lies, the exact opposite often, of any truth. It's gotten annoying. It's not even entertaining. These stupid threads should be deleted or the header corrected to include a fact of some sort. Quite frankly the old dulce alien base stories were more believable than the trumptard posts being made here. You are a fucking liar, and not a good one. He talks about ventilators and hydro-c from 1:30:50-1:33:03 and he says nothing about ventilators being a last resort. Among similarly thinly-veiled veiled statements, he says explicitly that "you know the answer to what does happen (when someone goes on a ventiltor)." I know you're too stupid to make any inferences from that, which is why the OP did you the kind service of spelling it out. Notice you have shills pretending intellectual sophistication with at best a common core high school diploma. "Quite frankly" is a give away. No one who took English composition 101 would write such tripe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77051559 04/05/2020 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine So that Dr's claim could be correct? shiit! this is gonna go down as the worst thing they have pulled off... Medical costs are too high and people are living too long. They are just trimming the dead weight. yet you can bail out the bankers again for 6 Trillion Not a fucking dollar of money goes into help without the democratic congress getting the lion's share of the loot. Just how it is. The piper must be paid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78537041 United States 04/05/2020 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine He just said it in the press conference. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78738542 "You know it, I know it, and I am glad you don't write about it" in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine You have poor comprehension skills don't you? Let me try to explain it to you. He was not saying that ventilators are killing people. He is saying that once a person gets so bad in health that they require a ventilator to help TRY to keep them alive, their chances of beating the disease is less. It's not the ventilators killing the people it's the virus. If the medicine will help keep the patient from reaching the point of needing a ventilator, THAT'S A GOOD THING, because they have a better chance at recovery at that point. Look at it this way. If you get to the point where you are on a ventilator, you probably have a 50/50 chance of surviving, maybe less because the virus has really got a good grip on you. If the medicine keeps you from every having to get on a ventilator, it means the viral load is not as great in you and you have a much better chance of surviving this. It's pretty simple common sense. How you can twist such reasoning into "the ventilators are killing people" is just moronic. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78723160 United States 04/05/2020 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine There's a hardcore attempt in this thread to discredit not only the OP but the doctor in the video. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78723160 For those of you who haven't seen the video(s) this good doctor put out, here is the gist of what he's saying. - Doctors are using the ventilators in such a fashion as to treat symptoms of Acute respiratory distress syndrome. (ARDS) High pressure oxygen is pumped into the lungs forcing them open when the patient can no longer do this for themself. -The patients this doctor is seeing aren't displaying typical ARDS symptoms but rather are displaying symptoms closer to pulmonary edema which is also called high altitude sickness. Pulmonary edema occurs when the alveoli fill up with excess fluid seeped out of the blood vessels in the lung instead of air. This can cause problems with the exchange of gas (oxygen and carbon dioxide), resulting in breathing difficulty and poor oxygenation of blood. Sometimes, this can be referred to as "water in the lungs" when describing the condition to patients. Basically, the patients are being starved of oxygen. -This doctor states he believes the treatment protocols are incorrect and believes using the ventilators in a fashion as to treat ARDS actually damages the lungs of the patients he's treating and is actually making their condition worse. -He states that it's difficult to change the protocols because the medical community assumes they are dealing with viral pneumonia when in fact he believes they are dealing with an entirely new disease that doesn't respond to ARDS treatment but is actually made worse by it. - He states ventilators can still be of use but that they need to be recalibrated to treat the symptoms he's seeing properly. -He asks other doctors for help in changing the protocols used in treating patients who as of now are being ventilated. And just to add, It is my belief this good doctor is fighting the uphill battle of his life. The medical establishment cannot at any cost show their negligence here or it's the class action lawsuit to end all class action lawsuits. Not to mention there will be criminal charges for many. If this good doctor is correct and I believe he is, this is monumental. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78610754 United States 04/05/2020 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16762662 We have a new group of GLP posters that consistently post bald face lies, the exact opposite often, of any truth. It's gotten annoying. It's not even entertaining. These stupid threads should be deleted or the header corrected to include a fact of some sort. Quite frankly the old dulce alien base stories were more believable than the trumptard posts being made here. You are a fucking liar, and not a good one. He talks about ventilators and hydro-c from 1:30:50-1:33:03 and he says nothing about ventilators being a last resort. Among similarly thinly-veiled veiled statements, he says explicitly that "you know the answer to what does happen (when someone goes on a ventiltor)." I know you're too stupid to make any inferences from that, which is why the OP did you the kind service of spelling it out. Notice you have shills pretending intellectual sophistication with at best a common core high school diploma. "Quite frankly" is a give away. No one who took English composition 101 would write such tripe. That is, from Trigger's highly educated and intellectual point of view, when someone posts something that he doesn't like. lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77051559 04/05/2020 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine He just said it in the press conference. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78738542 "You know it, I know it, and I am glad you don't write about it" in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine You have poor comprehension skills don't you? Let me try to explain it to you. He was not saying that ventilators are killing people. He is saying that once a person gets so bad in health that they require a ventilator to help TRY to keep them alive, their chances of beating the disease is less. It's not the ventilators killing the people it's the virus. If the medicine will help keep the patient from reaching the point of needing a ventilator, THAT'S A GOOD THING, because they have a better chance at recovery at that point. Look at it this way. If you get to the point where you are on a ventilator, you probably have a 50/50 chance of surviving, maybe less because the virus has really got a good grip on you. If the medicine keeps you from every having to get on a ventilator, it means the viral load is not as great in you and you have a much better chance of surviving this. It's pretty simple common sense. How you can twist such reasoning into "the ventilators are killing people" is just moronic. These fucks are in the business of twisting word for their commie agenda. Typical under thirty American momma raised motherfuckers who want normal people dead. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77051559 04/05/2020 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75867817 Quite frankly the old dulce alien base stories were more believable than the trumptard posts being made here. You are a fucking liar, and not a good one. He talks about ventilators and hydro-c from 1:30:50-1:33:03 and he says nothing about ventilators being a last resort. Among similarly thinly-veiled veiled statements, he says explicitly that "you know the answer to what does happen (when someone goes on a ventiltor)." I know you're too stupid to make any inferences from that, which is why the OP did you the kind service of spelling it out. Notice you have shills pretending intellectual sophistication with at best a common core high school diploma. "Quite frankly" is a give away. No one who took English composition 101 would write such tripe. That is, from Trigger's highly educated and intellectual point of view, when someone posts something that he doesn't like. lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78723160 United States 04/05/2020 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine There's a hardcore attempt in this thread to discredit not only the OP but the doctor in the video. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78723160 For those of you who haven't seen the video(s) this good doctor put out, here is the gist of what he's saying. - Doctors are using the ventilators in such a fashion as to treat symptoms of Acute respiratory distress syndrome. (ARDS) High pressure oxygen is pumped into the lungs forcing them open when the patient can no longer do this for themself. -The patients this doctor is seeing aren't displaying typical ARDS symptoms but rather are displaying symptoms closer to pulmonary edema which is also called high altitude sickness. Pulmonary edema occurs when the alveoli fill up with excess fluid seeped out of the blood vessels in the lung instead of air. This can cause problems with the exchange of gas (oxygen and carbon dioxide), resulting in breathing difficulty and poor oxygenation of blood. Sometimes, this can be referred to as "water in the lungs" when describing the condition to patients. Basically, the patients are being starved of oxygen. -This doctor states he believes the treatment protocols are incorrect and believes using the ventilators in a fashion as to treat ARDS actually damages the lungs of the patients he's treating and is actually making their condition worse. -He states that it's difficult to change the protocols because the medical community assumes they are dealing with viral pneumonia when in fact he believes they are dealing with an entirely new disease that doesn't respond to ARDS treatment but is actually made worse by it. - He states ventilators can still be of use but that they need to be recalibrated to treat the symptoms he's seeing properly. -He asks other doctors for help in changing the protocols used in treating patients who as of now are being ventilated. for the obvious shills trying to bury this post. I've noticed you won't debate this so I'll just keep bumping the truth. |
Buzzcheeze
User ID: 77927758 United States 04/05/2020 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine And I will be GOD DAMNED There is ONLY ONE PERSON in the fucking country TELLING THE TRUTH about the success of these VENTILATORS. The PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES Donald TRUMP!! "TRUMP WON" "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by" 'My ego is smaller than yours Why is abbreviation such a long word “When seconds MATTER, cops are only minutes away "Cut out a man's tongue and you dont prove him a liar. It just proves you fear what he has to say" |
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User ID: 77927758 United States 04/05/2020 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: TRUMP ADMITS THE VENTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE! Ventilators ---in defense of chloroquine / hydrochloroquine And I will be GOD DAMNED There is ONLY ONE PERSON in the fucking country TELLING THE TRUTH about the success of these VENTILATORS. The PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES Donald TRUMP!! And by the way Cuomo needs to be prosecuted as a WAR CRIMINAL and PUT TO DEATH!!!!!!!!!! "TRUMP WON" "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by" 'My ego is smaller than yours Why is abbreviation such a long word “When seconds MATTER, cops are only minutes away "Cut out a man's tongue and you dont prove him a liar. It just proves you fear what he has to say" |