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User ID: 77849624 United States 04/04/2020 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no mild-unnoticeable cases. lots of dead in the streets. No infrastructure left after a week. Quoting: beeches It was said from the beginning that this virus was not meant to kill the masses of people. It was meant to INFECT everyone, kill a percentage, send everyone into a panic and collapse countries. Can't remember any other virus that was designed to infect everyone with the properties it has. So far, they nailed the design. If a virus is too lethal, it kills most of its victims so quickly that it can't keep spreading to other new victims. That was the case with the Ebola Virus. The same is true if a microbe causes symptoms so immediately that infected people can be quickly singled out and isolated. I bet these doctors are dealing with poisonings, and multiple viruses. Multiple Coronas, multiple H1N?, SARS, Bird Flu, etc. Symptoms are broad spectrum According to a couple of studies I've read, people with existing infections of the gut, do the worst and end up in critical condition. The HIV envelope disables the immune system and these infections immediately explode. Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 04/04/2020 11:37 PM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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User ID: 77849624 United States 04/04/2020 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Otter girl User ID: 72673751 United States 04/04/2020 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I once read a post on here about chimeric viruses. That could definitely be what is going on. There are 2 phases to a chimeric virusp. The first phase is to sread it wildly amomg the population. The second phase is to kill as many people as possible. If this is a chimeric virus, then everyone is so focused on the first phase (the flu symptoms and pneumonia) that they are missing the second phase, which is what is really killing them. It is probably a bioengineered virus...but i also have another theory. They also use chimeric virus in medical research these days...to kill cancers, and to do gene therapy, etc... What if this was a chimeric virus that was created for medicals use, and one escaped from the lab and mutated? Or maybe a scientist who was pretending to study chimeric viruses for medical uses, was actually studying them for bioweapons. A "Breaking Bad virologist", if you will. I hope I'm wrong. It would make a good plot for a James Bond movie, though. |
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User ID: 77849624 United States 04/04/2020 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I once read a post on here about chimeric viruses. That could definitely be what is going on. Quoting: Otter girl 72673751 There are 2 phases to a chimeric virusp. The first phase is to sread it wildly amomg the population. The second phase is to kill as many people as possible. If this is a chimeric virus, then everyone is so focused on the first phase (the flu symptoms and pneumonia) that they are missing the second phase, which is what is really killing them. It is probably a bioengineered virus...but i also have another theory. They also use chimeric virus in medical research these days...to kill cancers, and to do gene therapy, etc... What if this was a chimeric virus that was created for medicals use, and one escaped from the lab and mutated? Or maybe a scientist who was pretending to study chimeric viruses for medical uses, was actually studying them for bioweapons. A "Breaking Bad virologist", if you will. I hope I'm wrong. It would make a good plot for a James Bond movie, though. Its called a double vector in the genetics field. it actually happens every day in real life. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77462041 Netherlands 04/05/2020 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DeploraVision ™ Jake, I bought a bottle 90 x 450mg of Wormwood pills. Why isn't wormwood on your list? Its a flower that has been used extensively for anti-malaria and is a natural version of HC . What's your opinion on Wormwood, or anyone else ? Wormwood is a bitter herb they are always good when there is digestive involvement. About 40% with coronavirus have digestive involvement because they have other low grade infections in their gut. According to a story on Fox News The people with digestive involvement end up in critical condition Its obvious to me we have multiple disorders / diseases we are treating but, in Italy and China people were dying with Cytokine storm. This means they drown within 12 hours. Taking Zinc will accelerate this to 6-8hrs if a person winds up with Cytokine. Zinc is a powerful antiviral but you can decrease the Zinc and increase the angelica root, Cinchona bark, EGCG and Tinospora cordifolia. All four of them known to stop the cytokine storm. both EGCG and Tinospora proven in clinicals studies. Jake tell them Elderberry is BAD for the CYTOKINE Storm Thread: DO NOT TAKE ELDERBERRY |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77462041 Netherlands 04/05/2020 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.sinobiological.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77462041 Cytokines play a very important role in nearly all aspects of inflammation and immunity. Interleukins are a type of cytokines that were first seen to be expressed by leukocytes. DO NOT TAKE ELDERBERRY [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] The Sambucol preparations increased the production of five cytokines (1.3-6.2 fold) compared to the control. Protec induced only a moderate production of IL-8 (1.6 fold) and IL-10 (2.3 fold) while Chizukit N caused only a moderate increase in IL-10 production (1.4 fold). Both Protec and Chizukit N caused moderate decreases in IL-1 beta, TNF alpha and IL-6 production. Lipopolysaccharide, a known activator of monocytes, induced the highest levels of cytokine production (3.6-10.7 fold). I thought it was ok to take as a preventative but a no no for if you’ve contracted covid. There are other sources for zinc The Lipopolysaccharides in the Elderberry Increases IL6 Interleukin 6. The direct pathway the virus is taking is IL6. |
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User ID: 77849624 United States 04/05/2020 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jake Wormwood is a bitter herb they are always good when there is digestive involvement. About 40% with coronavirus have digestive involvement because they have other low grade infections in their gut. According to a story on Fox News The people with digestive involvement end up in critical condition Its obvious to me we have multiple disorders / diseases we are treating but, in Italy and China people were dying with Cytokine storm. This means they drown within 12 hours. Taking Zinc will accelerate this to 6-8hrs if a person winds up with Cytokine. Zinc is a powerful antiviral but you can decrease the Zinc and increase the angelica root, Cinchona bark, EGCG and Tinospora cordifolia. All four of them known to stop the cytokine storm. both EGCG and Tinospora proven in clinicals studies. Jake tell them Elderberry is BAD for the CYTOKINE Storm Thread: DO NOT TAKE ELDERBERRY yes it is, as are most herbs from the ragweed family. Plants in the Compositae (daisy) family that are commonly used in western herbal medicine include ragweed, arnica, boneset, calendula, chamomile, yarrow, burdock, artemisia (including wormwood, mugwort and southernwood), thistles (including milk thistle), daisy, chicory, tansy, wild lettuce (all Lactuca species), goldenrod, dandelion. Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 04/05/2020 12:10 AM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77462041 Netherlands 04/05/2020 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73458715 It was said from the beginning that this virus was not meant to kill the masses of people. It was meant to INFECT everyone, kill a percentage, send everyone into a panic and collapse countries. Can't remember any other virus that was designed to infect everyone with the properties it has. So far, they nailed the design. If a virus is too lethal, it kills most of its victims so quickly that it can't keep spreading to other new victims. That was the case with the Ebola Virus. The same is true if a microbe causes symptoms so immediately that infected people can be quickly singled out and isolated. I bet these doctors are dealing with poisonings, and multiple viruses. Multiple Coronas, multiple H1N?, SARS, Bird Flu, etc. Symptoms are broad spectrum According to a couple of studies I've read, people with existing infections of the gut, do the worst and end up in critical condition. The HIV envelope disables the immune system and these infections immediately explode. Really Well connect this dot. Professor Jeong Goo-bo of Gachon University Lee Gil Ya Cancer and Diabetes Institute, also said, “I believe L. gasseri, derived from plants, can be effective in preventing COVID-19 spread because it affects the activation of purine enzyme, the energy source for AIDS, hepatitis, Ebola, and COVID-19 virus. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] This study confirmed that sea buckthorn leaves and berries are a rich source of phenolic compounds, especially quercetin derivatives and hydrocinnamic acid derivatives |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77462041 Netherlands 04/05/2020 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35676288 Its obvious to me we have multiple disorders / diseases we are treating but, in Italy and China people were dying with Cytokine storm. This means they drown within 12 hours. Taking Zinc will accelerate this to 6-8hrs if a person winds up with Cytokine. Zinc is a powerful antiviral but you can decrease the Zinc and increase the angelica root, Cinchona bark, EGCG and Tinospora cordifolia. All four of them known to stop the cytokine storm. both EGCG and Tinospora proven in clinicals studies. Jake tell them Elderberry is BAD for the CYTOKINE Storm Thread: DO NOT TAKE ELDERBERRY yes it is, as are most herbs from the ragweed family. Plants in the Compositae (daisy) family that are commonly used in western herbal medicine include ragweed, arnica, boneset, calendula, chamomile, yarrow, burdock, artemisia (including wormwood, mugwort and southernwood), thistles (including milk thistle), daisy, chicory, tansy, wild lettuce (all Lactuca species), goldenrod, dandelion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16762662 United States 04/05/2020 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are far less evasive oxygen delivery systems that you don't intubate with. These machines require the person to be in a semi medicated coma to use, and tubes are run down your throat into your lungs, it's serious shit. Many of them just need a supplementary oxygen mask and tank. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they are killing people with them, and cashing in making these machines. |
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User ID: 77849624 United States 04/05/2020 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.sinobiological.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77462041 Cytokines play a very important role in nearly all aspects of inflammation and immunity. Interleukins are a type of cytokines that were first seen to be expressed by leukocytes. DO NOT TAKE ELDERBERRY [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] The Sambucol preparations increased the production of five cytokines (1.3-6.2 fold) compared to the control. Protec induced only a moderate production of IL-8 (1.6 fold) and IL-10 (2.3 fold) while Chizukit N caused only a moderate increase in IL-10 production (1.4 fold). Both Protec and Chizukit N caused moderate decreases in IL-1 beta, TNF alpha and IL-6 production. Lipopolysaccharide, a known activator of monocytes, induced the highest levels of cytokine production (3.6-10.7 fold). I thought it was ok to take as a preventative but a no no for if you’ve contracted covid. There are other sources for zinc The Lipopolysaccharides in the Elderberry Increases IL6 Interleukin 6. The direct pathway the virus is taking is IL6. Tinospora cordifolia protects against inflammation associated anemia by modulating inflammatory cytokines [link to www.nature.com (secure)] [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 04/05/2020 12:30 AM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39554084 United States 04/05/2020 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Intubation is considered to be a high risk procedure. An interesting study would be to know of those with severe pneumonia how many had a flu vaccine in the last three years and which type it was. It has been proven that the quadrivilent type flu vaccine complicates coronavirus infections and susceptibility. |
Jake
User ID: 77849624 United States 04/05/2020 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Intubation is considered to be a high risk procedure. An interesting study would be to know of those with severe pneumonia how many had a flu vaccine in the last three years and which type it was. It has been proven that the quadrivilent type flu vaccine complicates coronavirus infections and susceptibility. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39554084 Thread: Flu vaccine raises vulnerability to coronavirus Thread: Vaccine campaign in Italy in Jan'20 -Now the worst hitten region with CV Bergamo/Brescia Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 04/05/2020 12:37 AM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2590977 United States 04/05/2020 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wonder if they need to be shielded from 5G which causes oxygen problems such as described.is it rrlated to your serum ferrotom levels or heavy metsls from Vaccines hit with 5G. Jad a dream about this. Ypu put them in hyperbaric oxygen chamber inside a faraday cage in the dream Unreal I just watched this video and was telling my wife if this is true they should put these patience in a hyperbaric chamber. I didn’t throw the faraday cage in but why not to rule out 5G. I was just thinking of trying to help the oxygen transport. Someone should check if higher altitudes are having more difficulty with the covid crisis. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77967240 United States 04/05/2020 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | kidneys produce a hormone called EPO. EPO makes your body produce red blood cells. THe kidneys are full of ACE2 receptors. Everyone who suffers from this disease takes some damage to their kidneys. While the kidneys are being attacked... they don't produce EPO... Your body has a drastic decrease in red blood cells. You have a much harder time getting oxygen. The virus also attacks ACE2 receptors in the lungs. The virus also attacks your lymphocytes, wiping out one layer of your immune system. Altogether, the low oxygen levels in the body and lack of an immune system lead to the bacteria prevotella multiplying like crazy. This causes bacterial pneumonia in the lungs at this point. AT this point the body tries to fight all this bacterial and viral infection with the only immune system it has... cytokines. You then get massive inflamation in the lungs and a cytokine storm that can damage your entire body. Leading to a runaway cascade of more and more damage and inflammation... So.... You need to catch the disease early. First onset of symptoms... before your immune system is wiped out... before you get bacterial co-infections... before cytokine storms... before multi-organ damage and/or failure... and treat it with an antiviral, an antibiotic, and an anti inflammatory. I learned all this by the middle of February by reading reports made by Chinese doctors. Do American doctors just not read the reports coming out of other countries? WTF |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72673751 United States 04/05/2020 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I once read a post on here about chimeric viruses. That could definitely be what is going on. Quoting: Otter girl 72673751 There are 2 phases to a chimeric virusp. The first phase is to sread it wildly amomg the population. The second phase is to kill as many people as possible. If this is a chimeric virus, then everyone is so focused on the first phase (the flu symptoms and pneumonia) that they are missing the second phase, which is what is really killing them. It is probably a bioengineered virus...but i also have another theory. They also use chimeric virus in medical research these days...to kill cancers, and to do gene therapy, etc... What if this was a chimeric virus that was created for medicals use, and one escaped from the lab and mutated? Or maybe a scientist who was pretending to study chimeric viruses for medical uses, was actually studying them for bioweapons. A "Breaking Bad virologist", if you will. I hope I'm wrong. It would make a good plot for a James Bond movie, though. Its called a double vector in the genetics field. it actually happens every day in real life. Yes, but the article I read said that bioengineered chimeric viruses are an evil virologist's wet dream... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72673751 United States 04/05/2020 01:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | kidneys produce a hormone called EPO. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77967240 EPO makes your body produce red blood cells. THe kidneys are full of ACE2 receptors. Everyone who suffers from this disease takes some damage to their kidneys. While the kidneys are being attacked... they don't produce EPO... Your body has a drastic decrease in red blood cells. You have a much harder time getting oxygen. The virus also attacks ACE2 receptors in the lungs. The virus also attacks your lymphocytes, wiping out one layer of your immune system. Altogether, the low oxygen levels in the body and lack of an immune system lead to the bacteria prevotella multiplying like crazy. This causes bacterial pneumonia in the lungs at this point. AT this point the body tries to fight all this bacterial and viral infection with the only immune system it has... cytokines. You then get massive inflamation in the lungs and a cytokine storm that can damage your entire body. Leading to a runaway cascade of more and more damage and inflammation... So.... You need to catch the disease early. First onset of symptoms... before your immune system is wiped out... before you get bacterial co-infections... before cytokine storms... before multi-organ damage and/or failure... and treat it with an antiviral, an antibiotic, and an anti inflammatory. I learned all this by the middle of February by reading reports made by Chinese doctors. Do American doctors just not read the reports coming out of other countries? WTF Here is a homeopathic approach to treating it. Don't laugh. A month ago, the Indian government told people to take homeopathic arsenicum album amd everyone laughed. But a month later, the US and Europe are overrun with cases, and India only has 2000 cases. Homeopathy has a long history of succeess in pandemics. Great article below. [link to hpathy.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 77661007 United States 04/05/2020 01:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cure for Covid. Quoting: Jake - Cinchona bark powder (quinine) 500 mg. twice daily - Angelica Archangelica root powder 500 mg. twice daily. - Rose Hips powder 500 mgs 4 times daily. - EGCG with Quercetin by Life extension foundation. 3 times daily. - Tinospora cordifolia 1 cap twice daily. - zinc 25 mgs daily Are you sure, Jake? Is this to keep from getting it, or to cure it after you have it? I think this idea, along with HCQS, is to avoid having it get beyond the ACE2 cells in the lungs. Once that happens, other shit starts breaking down, and we don't know what to do. So I would try those sorts of things, because you can do a lot more to cure yourself at home than they can in the hospital once you're bad enough to be admitted. What other shit starts breaking down? Like other organs? Doom is not dead. |
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User ID: 77849624 United States 04/05/2020 01:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The most hit country wil be the united states because (COVID) alias pacman like to attach to fat tissue. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78283424 Fast food wil kill you close, it kills most people with diabetes Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |