A $1.3 Trillion U.S. Housing Market Crash Is Imminent, and Inevitable | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78702359 United States 04/05/2020 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The US government needs to provide a bailout for everyone that holds a mortgage that's affected from this mandated lockdown / shutdown. Really, China needs to be paying for this. Quoting: Butch DeFeo Like Trump said, this economic problem is all artificially induced by the state. Not just mortgage holders. I have invested in Real Estate for my retirement. I have spent the last 30 years paying off properties that I rent so they would be paid off by retirement. I have a mortgage only on my own home that I live in at this point and have been renting out 8 units. We have lived off of that money for the past two years for the most part. Now we have the governments telling people they dont have to pay rent if they cant afford it. For us, this money is considered passive income and there is no financial bail out other than an actual loan that we do have to pay back. Thats pretty fucked up! So now all of these unemployed people will be buying take out with their 600+ weekly unemployment checks and I will be scrimping and saving every penny to pay taxes and insurance to protect my investments and hopefully not digging to deep into my savings. I am already out 2000. per month and I cant tell you how many of them called me to ask about not paying. I keep my rents slightly under market for good tenants and dont raise the rent often if they are good, so my answer was that it affects me too as I get no govt support and when its over it is all going to be due and payable. That anyone who doesnt stay current will see an increase. I will see who keeps paying once unemployment and these 1200. cks start showing up. We need to get away from this model. There are so many in this country living on passive income where it is not sustainable. Rentier income is leeching off the productive. Everyone should be working every day in an industry or company and not living off the productivity of other people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 04/05/2020 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 2 story house is paid off. My 2 cars are paid off. I can survive making 12 bucks an hour. im 36 yrs old. I'm able to do this because of no wife or kids lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72520521 You also sound like an un-marriageable incel loser. No one would ever hang out with you let alone reproduce. Loser in life with a bunch of stuff, entitlement(no one owes you fucking $12 an hour) and no family. You are a failure- don't get to high and mighty. No he doesn’t. He sounds like someone who is very careful about what he does in life. Only a person who is jealous would say such things to him. I wish I had been so careful. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 04/05/2020 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The U.S. housing market is going to be one of the biggest victims of the novel coronavirus pandemic as people lose jobs and the economy comes to a grinding halt. Housing bulls have already started pulling out of the market and it won’t be long before prices start going south. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78545945 The latest readings from the S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller index could be the market’s last hurrah. The economic fallout of the COVID-19 outbreak is about to wreck the market’s momentum and might cause the biggest price crash since the Great Recession. [link to www.ccn.com (secure)] I don’t care if I make money or lose money on my home. I am very grateful to have a roof over my head and I think that’s better in these times then anything else Yup. People should also keep their homes and not leave them. Pay the property taxes if that is all you can do. It will be difficult to kick anyone out when most people are in the same boat. Don’t leave your homes. There will be no place to go. And better to rent out a house than to sell it cheap. Rent out a room in your house if you need to. But stay put. Don’t let vultures run you out or make you sell. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 04/05/2020 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 2 story house is paid off. My 2 cars are paid off. I can survive making 12 bucks an hour. im 36 yrs old. I'm able to do this because of no wife or kids lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72520521 I guess you must live in far deep mountains where property tax is below $15k a year for manufactured home Taxes at 15,000.00 per year. Ouch!!! Honestly who would do that to themselves? Now that is renting the house. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 04/05/2020 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 2 story house is paid off. My 2 cars are paid off. I can survive making 12 bucks an hour. im 36 yrs old. I'm able to do this because of no wife or kids lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72520521 I guess you must live in far deep mountains where property tax is below $15k a year for manufactured home And I am guessing you live in a liberal shit hole to keep up your virtue signaling appearances.. My property tax is zero. Idiot. That is awesome. Where do you live? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78702359 United States 04/05/2020 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The market will gravitate to where the level of wages are which isn’t very high so a housing market price crash is expected. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20586366 Going back a 100 years in our countries history. The general rule of thumb was pay no more than 2x your annual income for a house. Graphs and charts depicted this rule was followed up until 2008. So a person making $15,000 a year in 1970, paid about $30,000 for a house. If you have a huge influx of illegals and low wages in your area and prices are through the roof your area is in a bubble. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78702359 United States 04/05/2020 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't have million dollar houses and only offer minimum wage jobs so 1 CEO can own the rest and be a landlord. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4851144 You can't expect people to die in wars to protect this system. The people at the top have too much. Instead of a 400 million dollar bonus, how about 25 million and put the rest back into the company, pay your workers a living wage and fix the economy. I hate greedy people |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70650445 United States 04/05/2020 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 2 story house is paid off. My 2 cars are paid off. I can survive making 12 bucks an hour. im 36 yrs old. I'm able to do this because of no wife or kids lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72520521 I guess you must live in far deep mountains where property tax is below $15k a year for manufactured home Dude, I live in a real block house in central Florida and the yearly tax is almost $500. You must be in NJ or NY with a $20k yearly tax . Northerners just don’t understand that most of the country doesn’t pay as much in taxes as they do. Dallas,TX property taxes are really high. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 04/05/2020 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 2 story house is paid off. My 2 cars are paid off. I can survive making 12 bucks an hour. im 36 yrs old. I'm able to do this because of no wife or kids lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72520521 Wait til your neighbors lose their houses and fall into disrepair. Vacant homes will be taken over by thugs, goons, and scum (squatters) and seemingly overnight, your neighborhood will become a crime infested hellhole. Good luck. Everyone’s will become like that also. We all need a place to live. At least he won’t be kicked out. |
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User ID: 2936153 United States 04/05/2020 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 2 story house is paid off. My 2 cars are paid off. I can survive making 12 bucks an hour. im 36 yrs old. I'm able to do this because of no wife or kids lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72520521 That's a smart man there! I'm the same just 9 years younger and i own a car, an essential business and am renting a home. I've thought about asking my landlord if she'd be okay with selling this house to me for an affordable rate since it's all going to crash anyway. :memorybanner: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78537041 United States 04/05/2020 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The U.S. housing market is going to be one of the biggest victims of the novel coronavirus pandemic as people lose jobs and the economy comes to a grinding halt. Housing bulls have already started pulling out of the market and it won’t be long before prices start going south. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78545945 The latest readings from the S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller index could be the market’s last hurrah. The economic fallout of the COVID-19 outbreak is about to wreck the market’s momentum and might cause the biggest price crash since the Great Recession. [link to www.ccn.com (secure)] Too bad it doesn't ever seem to affect RENT! Might be time for those who RENT to see it's cheaper to finance a home. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15895702 United States 04/05/2020 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the housing market crashes, what's to stop the banking industry from following? Quoting: nacho daddy Don't banks fund mortgages for the most part? Trump and Steve Mnuchin have made it clear they will pump as much liquidity into the banks as necessary to avoid that situation. We're going to try and print out way out of this. That means the prices of houses and other goods won't go down, they'll go up. They're gambling that they can end the pandemic and restart the economy before everything goes tits up. It's the only choice. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38890686 United States 04/05/2020 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 2 story house is paid off. My 2 cars are paid off. I can survive making 12 bucks an hour. im 36 yrs old. I'm able to do this because of no wife or kids lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72520521 You also sound like an un-marriageable incel loser. No one would ever hang out with you let alone reproduce. Loser in life with a bunch of stuff, entitlement(no one owes you fucking $12 an hour) and no family. You are a failure- don't get to high and mighty. HAHAHA... more proof of why to choose UBERFAG! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 04/05/2020 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is two fold. First, who wants to buy a house in these economic conditions? And second, think how many people will be losing their houses when they lose their job. So in 6 months you’ll have a huge glut of houses for sale with no one to buy them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71242045 People will stay in their homes. People should not abandon them. That would be the worst thing to do. |
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User ID: 77082640 United States 04/05/2020 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the housing market crashes, what's to stop the banking industry from following? Quoting: nacho daddy Don't banks fund mortgages for the most part? What's to stop the Chinese from buying up all US land on the cheap and taking over from within? Chinese? Try a different tribe. This. The wealthiest in the world has been hitting us since 911 for this exact same scenario. All part of the conquest. They need a home for their 2 billion pilgrim locusts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38890686 United States 04/05/2020 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 2 story house is paid off. My 2 cars are paid off. I can survive making 12 bucks an hour. im 36 yrs old. I'm able to do this because of no wife or kids lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72520521 You also sound like an un-marriageable incel loser. No one would ever hang out with you let alone reproduce. Loser in life with a bunch of stuff, entitlement(no one owes you fucking $12 an hour) and no family. You are a failure- don't get to high and mighty. HAHAHA... more proof of why to choose UBERFAG! WOW - GLP changed what I wrote!!! I wrote UBERFAG AND IT GOT CHANGED TO UBERFAG |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78702359 United States 04/05/2020 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many homes and properties are over priced or inflated by the county or city assessor for good reason, property taxes. The fox in the chicken pen. Make property taxes unlawful so when somebody retires, they can't have their home removed or property taken away by the government. The way things are now, you have NO HOUSING security, none. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78720925 Just think if you become unemployed or ill for an extended period and you are evicted from your home because you didn't pay your property tax. SICK! SICK and EVIL! Your legislators could change that future over night the question is why they will not. You have to force the issue. I agree with your idea. For the retired and for those older living in the house, no taxes. For everyone else, there need to be taxes. I know quite a few that bought property cheap on the outskirts of fast growing town. They timed it right where they made millions when the town bought the property from them. With no property taxes, greedy investors could buy property everywhere and just hold and wait for the value to go up, with no yearly cost to them. They wealthy investors inflate prices well beyond what people can afford. |
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User ID: 77082640 United States 04/05/2020 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're not understanding that this was a biological weapon attack (WMD) and followed by war, and that will include a Great Depression II. However, the US is enterprising and won't just die off, new industry will start, a round of patriotism will erupt and we will build back. Meanwhile the trillions of debt US has will disappear (like magic, it's a miracle) and the government can actually help people under new structure. Everything as we know it will change. People don't like change. There is doubt and insecurity and grief. People.don't.like.change. Risk in order: debt poverty famine death lack of support system housing banks industry |
MissCleo
User ID: 77082640 United States 04/05/2020 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good, they were overpriced already and needed correction, and many honest Realtors knew this. Quoting: Keilani when you see run down crack house go for over a quarter of a million dollars, something wrong Joe Prices on anything can only go up so far until they crash. possessions decrease. prices on everything increases. |