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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78702359 United States 04/05/2020 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love how morons “invest” in exploiting people with bad credit or made some mistakes in life to pay off THEIR multiple mortgages then are shocked to find in the end they can’t pay. If you were expecting a class of stable money bags to profit off they’d be off buying their own home instead of desperately clinging to you for shelter. I’ve lived in apartment complexes both nice and ratty and trust me, there is no such thing as a good landlord. I once rented a garage apartment behind my landlord who was a nice guy and always would call me over to come have a beer with him. But when I got laid off he couldn’t go more than 1-2 days past rent due before he starting badgering me like a loan shark. You can be fair, just and follow going market prices but at the end of the day, it’s still a business and the only way to win in the rental game is to charge as much as you can and repair as little as possible, because homes by design are not an asset, they are depreciating assets much like a car. I can’t wait to see these $200k asbestos-filled homes from the 50s drop like a rock to their true value. A home is a place to raise a family, not make a buck on your fellow man. Just my opinion. Guy down the road was given 3 rental houses by his dad when he passed away. The guy goes on 3 vacations a year and has never had a job. Anytime something needs repair, they use a bandaid approach rather than spending any money in the places. What type of rentals are they? High or low end? If low end you definitely don’t want to invest too much and then have to ask for more rent. What does it matter. Apparently he has enough money to do proper repairs if he can go on 3 vacations a year and not have a job. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78496152 United States 04/05/2020 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See my post a few posts up about REITs and Agenda 2030. They won't care if the houses are damaged. The houses will be demolished any way. Anyone destroying the house is just saving them demo costs. It depends on where you live. It won’t be happening in the country any time too soon. Very few people will be living out in the country anymore since rural economies are being decimated. Farmers are defaulting on their farm land RIGHT NOW! Do you even Agenda 2030, bro? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77991957 United States 04/05/2020 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is has gone full blown Drudge report. All threads are panic fear panic fear type. From aliens to mass arrests. From economy doom to never handshake again. You guys seeing the liberal bias on this site. For gods sake, even the Admin Triniti showed his true colors. He is a libtards. But really... why do this to the tax payers? That's the real question. |
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User ID: 73724632 United States 04/05/2020 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The U.S. housing market is going to be one of the biggest victims of the novel coronavirus pandemic as people lose jobs and the economy comes to a grinding halt. Housing bulls have already started pulling out of the market and it won’t be long before prices start going south. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78545945 The latest readings from the S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller index could be the market’s last hurrah. The economic fallout of the COVID-19 outbreak is about to wreck the market’s momentum and might cause the biggest price crash since the Great Recession. [link to www.ccn.com (secure)] Fuck yes. Best time to buy a house. Woohoo That IS the upside.....if you have any money left. |
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User ID: 73724632 United States 04/05/2020 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is has gone full blown Drudge report. All threads are panic fear panic fear type. From aliens to mass arrests. From economy doom to never handshake again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77991957 You guys seeing the liberal bias on this site. For gods sake, even the Admin Triniti showed his true colors. He is a libtards. But really... why do this to the tax payers? That's the real question. They're right about the housing market though. Sometimes it is what is it. This really IS a disaster of just unbelievable proportions and it all literally was CREATED BY THE GOVERNMENT. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78496152 United States 04/05/2020 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mark these words: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78496152 In another housing crash, the banks that hold the mortgages will sell off the houses in large blocks to DEVELOPERS and REITs, like they did during the 2009 crash. The developers and REITs will NOT resell the houses. Instead, they will demolish all the houses and build Agenda 2030 stack-n-pack apartments on the land. If you think you're going to snatch up a bunch of super cheap houses to resell, like some did in 2009, you're severely mistaken. New single family housing zoning will be abolished after the A2030 developers own the chunks of houses and all the vacant land. If you do get lucky and snap up a few cheap houses (the scraps), no permits will be issued for renovations since single family housing will no longer be allowed. Never forget that the county governments where the houses are OWN those properties, since practically every house built and sold since the 1950's was mortgaged with a DEED OF TRUST. That Deed of Trust conveyed ownership of the land and house to the county government and was placed under a trust administered by the government, with the government as TRUSTEE. Trustees are legal title holders of all property contained in the trust. No one reads the mortgage paperwork they sign. It's written right into the 40 page Deed of Trust that the "buyer" is a TENANT, pays rent (property tax) to the real owner, the county government. The "buyer" is merely a holder of the property, never the owner. That is not what happened after 2008. They tore down cheap houses and apartment buildings and put in expensive condos all over place causing an increase in the homeless and poor. Yes, that is what happened after 2008, with the only difference being that after 2008 the houses were resold on the open market eventually. That will NOT happen this time. Condos are purchased, apartments are rented. Agenda 2030 is about implementing a (communist) RENTER society. A primary platform plank of communism? NO PRIVATE PROPERTY. Everything will be rental, from where someone lives to when they need an clothes iron. It's actually all a rental society now, actually, but massive amounts of propaganda has kept people believing that they actually own a house or a car. They haven't. But the next step is to drop the charade of ownership and become open about the rental society. Ignore my posts at your peril. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78702359 United States 04/05/2020 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mark these words: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78496152 In another housing crash, the banks that hold the mortgages will sell off the houses in large blocks to DEVELOPERS and REITs, like they did during the 2009 crash. The developers and REITs will NOT resell the houses. Instead, they will demolish all the houses and build Agenda 2030 stack-n-pack apartments on the land. If you think you're going to snatch up a bunch of super cheap houses to resell, like some did in 2009, you're severely mistaken. New single family housing zoning will be abolished after the A2030 developers own the chunks of houses and all the vacant land. If you do get lucky and snap up a few cheap houses (the scraps), no permits will be issued for renovations since single family housing will no longer be allowed. Never forget that the county governments where the houses are OWN those properties, since practically every house built and sold since the 1950's was mortgaged with a DEED OF TRUST. That Deed of Trust conveyed ownership of the land and house to the county government and was placed under a trust administered by the government, with the government as TRUSTEE. Trustees are legal title holders of all property contained in the trust. No one reads the mortgage paperwork they sign. It's written right into the 40 page Deed of Trust that the "buyer" is a TENANT, pays rent (property tax) to the real owner, the county government. The "buyer" is merely a holder of the property, never the owner. That is not what happened after 2008. They tore down cheap houses and apartment buildings and put in expensive condos all over place causing an increase in the homeless and poor. Yes, that is what happened after 2008, with the only difference being that after 2008 the houses were resold on the open market eventually. That will NOT happen this time. Condos are purchased, apartments are rented. Agenda 2030 is about implementing a (communist) RENTER society. A primary platform plank of communism? NO PRIVATE PROPERTY. Everything will be rental, from where someone lives to when they need an clothes iron. It's actually all a rental society now, actually, but massive amounts of propaganda has kept people believing that they actually own a house or a car. They haven't. But the next step is to drop the charade of ownership and become open about the rental society. Ignore my posts at your peril. I'll believe it when I see it. We have been hearing about the coming Communism going on 50 years now and instead we have had socialism for the rich for the last 20 years... The The renter class is all people in private milking others for free money and the real estate lobby has a large presence in DC. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78458193 United States 04/05/2020 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 2 story house is paid off. My 2 cars are paid off. I can survive making 12 bucks an hour. im 36 yrs old. I'm able to do this because of no wife or kids lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72520521 I guess you must live in far deep mountains where property tax is below $15k a year for manufactured home 15k a year?! Where do you find outrageous property taxes like that? . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77311748 United States 04/05/2020 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The U.S. housing market is going to be one of the biggest victims of the novel coronavirus pandemic as people lose jobs and the economy comes to a grinding halt. Housing bulls have already started pulling out of the market and it won’t be long before prices start going south. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78545945 The latest readings from the S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller index could be the market’s last hurrah. The economic fallout of the COVID-19 outbreak is about to wreck the market’s momentum and might cause the biggest price crash since the Great Recession. [link to www.ccn.com (secure)] Fuck yes. Best time to buy a house. Woohoo Couldn't agree more. Run down Shacks in California selling for 700,000 and up. It's ridiculous. If the housing market loses 1.3 Trillion it's all pumped up, over inflated shit, no great loss, and maybe the millenials will be able to buy a house in their lifetimes. This I've lived through three housing market crashes so far. They inevitably result in creation of new middle class as previously ineligible people qualified for homeownership. But of course, none of those three were attached to an apocalypse on a global scale. We're trying to use past experience as a predictive model here, when it might not be applicable. We'll see what happens. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78458193 United States 04/05/2020 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 2 story house is paid off. My 2 cars are paid off. I can survive making 12 bucks an hour. im 36 yrs old. I'm able to do this because of no wife or kids lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72520521 I guess you must live in far deep mountains where property tax is below $15k a year for manufactured home 15k a year?! Where do you find outrageous property taxes like that? . The average property tax in the U.S. is $3,313 a year. That's 1.24% for an average $279,715 home. Link: [link to www.mortgagecalculator.org (secure)] . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78496152 United States 04/05/2020 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mark these words: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78496152 In another housing crash, the banks that hold the mortgages will sell off the houses in large blocks to DEVELOPERS and REITs, like they did during the 2009 crash. The developers and REITs will NOT resell the houses. Instead, they will demolish all the houses and build Agenda 2030 stack-n-pack apartments on the land. If you think you're going to snatch up a bunch of super cheap houses to resell, like some did in 2009, you're severely mistaken. New single family housing zoning will be abolished after the A2030 developers own the chunks of houses and all the vacant land. If you do get lucky and snap up a few cheap houses (the scraps), no permits will be issued for renovations since single family housing will no longer be allowed. Never forget that the county governments where the houses are OWN those properties, since practically every house built and sold since the 1950's was mortgaged with a DEED OF TRUST. That Deed of Trust conveyed ownership of the land and house to the county government and was placed under a trust administered by the government, with the government as TRUSTEE. Trustees are legal title holders of all property contained in the trust. No one reads the mortgage paperwork they sign. It's written right into the 40 page Deed of Trust that the "buyer" is a TENANT, pays rent (property tax) to the real owner, the county government. The "buyer" is merely a holder of the property, never the owner. That is not what happened after 2008. They tore down cheap houses and apartment buildings and put in expensive condos all over place causing an increase in the homeless and poor. Yes, that is what happened after 2008, with the only difference being that after 2008 the houses were resold on the open market eventually. That will NOT happen this time. Condos are purchased, apartments are rented. Agenda 2030 is about implementing a (communist) RENTER society. A primary platform plank of communism? NO PRIVATE PROPERTY. Everything will be rental, from where someone lives to when they need an clothes iron. It's actually all a rental society now, actually, but massive amounts of propaganda has kept people believing that they actually own a house or a car. They haven't. But the next step is to drop the charade of ownership and become open about the rental society. Ignore my posts at your peril. I'll believe it when I see it. We have been hearing about the coming Communism going on 50 years now and instead we have had socialism for the rich for the last 20 years... The The renter class is all people in private milking others for free money and the real estate lobby has a large presence in DC. Look around you, bro. What do you think the purpose of the covid scare is for? To shut down the current (socialist) economic model in order to usher in the new (communist) economic model. To your point, we've lived in a socialist economic model since FDR's New Deal. Redistribution of fruits of labor (Congressional spending), pooled worker retirement plans (pensions, Social Security), fake ownership of property (Deeds of Trust, Vehicle Registration), etc. No one owns "their" houses or "their" cars or any of the other property they think they "own". The next step is full blown out-in-the-open communism and A2030 is how it is being implemented. Heck, just look at people starting to line up outside of Walmart RIGHT NOW to get rationed quantities of food. Limit 2 rolls of TP and tuna! It's right in front of you, comrade! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4076414 United States 04/05/2020 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 2 story house is paid off. My 2 cars are paid off. I can survive making 12 bucks an hour. im 36 yrs old. I'm able to do this because of no wife or kids lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72520521 I guess you must live in far deep mountains where property tax is below $15k a year for manufactured home 15k a year?! Where do you find outrageous property taxes like that? . The average property tax in the U.S. is $3,313 a year. That's 1.24% for an average $279,715 home. Link: [link to www.mortgagecalculator.org (secure)] . $3,313 too much. property tax is a communist scam. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78702359 United States 04/05/2020 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78702359 That is not what happened after 2008. They tore down cheap houses and apartment buildings and put in expensive condos all over place causing an increase in the homeless and poor. Yes, that is what happened after 2008, with the only difference being that after 2008 the houses were resold on the open market eventually. That will NOT happen this time. Condos are purchased, apartments are rented. Agenda 2030 is about implementing a (communist) RENTER society. A primary platform plank of communism? NO PRIVATE PROPERTY. Everything will be rental, from where someone lives to when they need an clothes iron. It's actually all a rental society now, actually, but massive amounts of propaganda has kept people believing that they actually own a house or a car. They haven't. But the next step is to drop the charade of ownership and become open about the rental society. Ignore my posts at your peril. I'll believe it when I see it. We have been hearing about the coming Communism going on 50 years now and instead we have had socialism for the rich for the last 20 years... The The renter class is all people in private milking others for free money and the real estate lobby has a large presence in DC. Look around you, bro. What do you think the purpose of the covid scare is for? To shut down the current (socialist) economic model in order to usher in the new (communist) economic model. To your point, we've lived in a socialist economic model since FDR's New Deal. Redistribution of fruits of labor (Congressional spending), pooled worker retirement plans (pensions, Social Security), fake ownership of property (Deeds of Trust, Vehicle Registration), etc. No one owns "their" houses or "their" cars or any of the other property they think they "own". The next step is full blown out-in-the-open communism and A2030 is how it is being implemented. Heck, just look at people starting to line up outside of Walmart RIGHT NOW to get rationed quantities of food. Limit 2 rolls of TP and tuna! It's right in front of you, comrade! Communism is government run business. Private business are setting limits, not the federal government. Taxes on land go back since there were lords and serfs before Jesus. What have had is bail outs for the bankers and big business for the last 20 years and bootstrap capitalism for everyone else. Where is everyone elses bail out? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78465067 United States 04/05/2020 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to data from Zillow, the combined value of residential houses in the U.S. increased $1.1 trillion to $33.6 trillion in 2019. If home prices drop 4% through early 2021 as Pointon estimates, the housing market could end up losing $1.34 trillion of its value. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78545945 The conditions for such a crash are already in the making. The number of Americans filing for unemployment benefits spiked to a record-shattering 6.6 million for the week ended March 28. These numbers are bad news for the U.S. housing market. They are a precursor to the lay-offs that the novel coronavirus pandemic could bring. The St. Louis Fed estimates that as many as 47 million Americans could be out of a job. This translates into an alarming unemployment rate of 32.1%. As a result, the demand for housing is expected to fall. One estimate predicts a 35% annual drop in sales this spring as COVID-19 rattles the market. OH BULLSHIT. Zillow is an investor. They buy homes for resale. For individual buyers and sellers the market is fine (for now). People are cashing out 401k's and bailing from stocks ..buying hard assets. WTF are you posting CNN garbage for anyway? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78696859 United Kingdom 04/05/2020 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The U.S. housing market is going to be one of the biggest victims of the novel coronavirus pandemic as people lose jobs and the economy comes to a grinding halt. Housing bulls have already started pulling out of the market and it won’t be long before prices start going south. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78545945 The latest readings from the S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller index could be the market’s last hurrah. The economic fallout of the COVID-19 outbreak is about to wreck the market’s momentum and might cause the biggest price crash since the Great Recession. [link to www.ccn.com (secure)] Nope, They'll just print more money and give it to all the crooks for free! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78702359 United States 04/05/2020 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The U.S. housing market is going to be one of the biggest victims of the novel coronavirus pandemic as people lose jobs and the economy comes to a grinding halt. Housing bulls have already started pulling out of the market and it won’t be long before prices start going south. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78545945 The latest readings from the S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller index could be the market’s last hurrah. The economic fallout of the COVID-19 outbreak is about to wreck the market’s momentum and might cause the biggest price crash since the Great Recession. [link to www.ccn.com (secure)] Nope, They'll just print more money and give it to all the crooks for free! The last time we went after the banker crooks, you had a lot of government banker shills protecting them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78496152 United States 04/05/2020 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78496152 Yes, that is what happened after 2008, with the only difference being that after 2008 the houses were resold on the open market eventually. That will NOT happen this time. Condos are purchased, apartments are rented. Agenda 2030 is about implementing a (communist) RENTER society. A primary platform plank of communism? NO PRIVATE PROPERTY. Everything will be rental, from where someone lives to when they need an clothes iron. It's actually all a rental society now, actually, but massive amounts of propaganda has kept people believing that they actually own a house or a car. They haven't. But the next step is to drop the charade of ownership and become open about the rental society. Ignore my posts at your peril. I'll believe it when I see it. We have been hearing about the coming Communism going on 50 years now and instead we have had socialism for the rich for the last 20 years... The The renter class is all people in private milking others for free money and the real estate lobby has a large presence in DC. Look around you, bro. What do you think the purpose of the covid scare is for? To shut down the current (socialist) economic model in order to usher in the new (communist) economic model. To your point, we've lived in a socialist economic model since FDR's New Deal. Redistribution of fruits of labor (Congressional spending), pooled worker retirement plans (pensions, Social Security), fake ownership of property (Deeds of Trust, Vehicle Registration), etc. No one owns "their" houses or "their" cars or any of the other property they think they "own". The next step is full blown out-in-the-open communism and A2030 is how it is being implemented. Heck, just look at people starting to line up outside of Walmart RIGHT NOW to get rationed quantities of food. Limit 2 rolls of TP and tuna! It's right in front of you, comrade! Communism is government run business. Private business are setting limits, not the federal government. Taxes on land go back since there were lords and serfs before Jesus. What have had is bail outs for the bankers and big business for the last 20 years and bootstrap capitalism for everyone else. Where is everyone elses bail out? During this ongoing ~20 year transitional phase, yes, corporations (who are run by colluding communists at the executive and board levels and who meet with government colluders at G20, Bilderberg, WH meetings, etc) are the temporary tool being used to social engineer everyone toward the openly communist model. That is temporary since eventually there will be only a tiny handful of options for obtaining goods and services and all of it will be rental only (autonomous ride-shares, stack-n-pack apartments, short-term rental of all daily life sustaining goods, etc). Read the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto. We're actually already 90% there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78729715 United States 04/05/2020 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My in-laws make 100K a year and bought a 360,000 house a year ago. And their jobs are COMMISSION! One is a realtor and one is a car salesman. Both commission jobs and they have debt! They act like junior highschoolers and only buy name brand clothes and houses to impress people. I can't wait for karma to kick their asses. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73666201 Canada 04/05/2020 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My in-laws make 100K a year and bought a 360,000 house a year ago. And their jobs are COMMISSION! One is a realtor and one is a car salesman. Both commission jobs and they have debt! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78729715 They act like junior highschoolers and only buy name brand clothes and houses to impress people.I can't wait for karma to kick their asses. My ex-wife was always like that and she used all my credit cards, totaling up to $50K in debts. I'm so glad that I kicked that bitch to the curb. I'm married again to a gorgeous woman who values the money and I have 4 retirement accounts, a home and a health savings account. I'm planning to buy another property soon. |