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Sweden has not closed the bars. Shopping malls are open. Schools and companies are open too.

 
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Sweden won't let their nurses wear masks to care for Chinese communist virus patients. It's been well known that getting massive quantities of viruses at the time of infection lowers survival rates.

Their hospital system may not exist in 30 days.


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Re: Sweden has not closed the bars. Shopping malls are open. Schools and companies are open too.
Its like a TwilightZone episode.
I live in a forest and its far between the houses here.
My life is pretty much the same as usual,im planting and preparing my greenhouse and making new spaces to grow more food.
I do have to go to town to buy some stuff maby once a week.(vodka,rom,beer)
Im the only one in town that wears a mask! It is suposed to be max 50 persons in the same location at a time,but at my grocery store parkinglot there where atleast 100 cars.
So i skiped it and I went to another store later in the evening .I was there all alone,that was realy sweet.
Nothing is missing in the store the shelves are full.
The only new now is big plastic windows between me and the casheir and markings on the floor that nobody cares about.
I hear that it is half dead in Stockholm (100 km from here),aparently most of the people chilling at home.
Personaly I think its gona go to hell big time here!
2 miljon imigrant freebees is gona flipp-out when there is no more free money.Im prepping for war and the death of civilisation...
I belive that this is a bioweapon and that this is only the begining.
I hope im wrong,only time can tell.
I knew about the virus in early January,i saw the fucking nightmare videos from Wuhan,my wife didnt listen in the begining,we had some enormous fights. Then she started to see reports in the msm and she started to listen to what i knew, we got the kids out of school early february.
The Kids get school via the computors, so we dont have to do all the schoolig during the days.They do learn to shoot a gun and make a fire and other stuff now that they dont learn in school.
Anyway Its going to be very interesting to see where this experimental country is going.
GLP is a good friend since 2007,Love most of you!
Peace and Love
Be safe everybody
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You are a wise guy! I wish the best for you and your family! Stay safe! We are all in this together!
hf
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04/05/2020 12:19 PM
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Our leaders have not even recognised that SARS-Cov-2 can be contagious during incubation period.

Noobs. Sheep are being led to the slaughter house.
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Our leaders have not even recognised that SARS-Cov-2 can be contagious during incubation period.

Noobs. Sheep are being led to the slaughter house.
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Prove it.

Show mea single study proving the virus is airborn, or has been transferred from person to person in any fashion.
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THIS should show how powerful this virus truly is. If Sweden has no huge death toll with it, then the virus may be fake.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


Or designed to target sertain groups?
I hear that it is a lot of Somalis that die here?
But you could never get that info in Sweden,that would make you a Nazi to even think about that.
PC is strong in Sweden,I would love to see it crushed!
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04/05/2020 12:22 PM
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Re: Sweden has not closed the bars. Shopping malls are open. Schools and companies are open too.
epiclol

The swedes are the only country left with an ounce of sense, or balls.

You morons lock yourselves in your houses without a shred of evidence that this virus is airborn and can 'infect anyone'.

SHOW ME THE scientific evidence. Where is it? Anyone? Bueller?

Nope, you don't have any. You just have idiot talking heads on television locking you in your houses because your a bunch of scared toddlers.
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04/05/2020 12:23 PM
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Re: Sweden has not closed the bars. Shopping malls are open. Schools and companies are open too.
Its like a TwilightZone episode.
I live in a forest and its far between the houses here.
My life is pretty much the same as usual,im planting and preparing my greenhouse and making new spaces to grow more food.
I do have to go to town to buy some stuff maby once a week.(vodka,rom,beer)
Im the only one in town that wears a mask! It is suposed to be max 50 persons in the same location at a time,but at my grocery store parkinglot there where atleast 100 cars.
So i skiped it and I went to another store later in the evening .I was there all alone,that was realy sweet.
Nothing is missing in the store the shelves are full.
The only new now is big plastic windows between me and the casheir and markings on the floor that nobody cares about.
I hear that it is half dead in Stockholm (100 km from here),aparently most of the people chilling at home.
Personaly I think its gona go to hell big time here!
2 miljon imigrant freebees is gona flipp-out when there is no more free money.Im prepping for war and the death of civilisation...
I belive that this is a bioweapon and that this is only the begining.
I hope im wrong,only time can tell.
I knew about the virus in early January,i saw the fucking nightmare videos from Wuhan,my wife didnt listen in the begining,we had some enormous fights. Then she started to see reports in the msm and she started to listen to what i knew, we got the kids out of school early february.
The Kids get school via the computors, so we dont have to do all the schoolig during the days.They do learn to shoot a gun and make a fire and other stuff now that they dont learn in school.
Anyway Its going to be very interesting to see where this experimental country is going.
GLP is a good friend since 2007,Love most of you!
Peace and Love
Be safe everybody
bitchesbetrippin
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Wow, how did you do that with the kids and school?

We also took our kids out of school at the end of januari, but we have been under investigation by the CPS (soc) ever since.
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Our leaders have not even recognised that SARS-Cov-2 can be contagious during incubation period.

Noobs. Sheep are being led to the slaughter house.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


Prove it.

Show mea single study proving the virus is airborn, or has been transferred from person to person in any fashion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


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THIS should show how powerful this virus truly is. If Sweden has no huge death toll with it, then the virus may be fake.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


Or designed to target sertain groups?
I hear that it is a lot of Somalis that die here?
But you could never get that info in Sweden,that would make you a Nazi to even think about that.
PC is strong in Sweden,I would love to see it crushed!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78156532


If there is one thing good about this pandemic, it is that PC and SJW are no longer significant.
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Our leaders have not even recognised that SARS-Cov-2 can be contagious during incubation period.

Noobs. Sheep are being led to the slaughter house.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


Prove it.

Show mea single study proving the virus is airborn, or has been transferred from person to person in any fashion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]
[link to english.kyodonews.net (secure)]
[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


News articles aren't scientific studies moron.

They're press releases.

Show me a scientific study, in an actual peer review journal, not propaganda. I'll wait.
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Our leaders have not even recognised that SARS-Cov-2 can be contagious during incubation period.

Noobs. Sheep are being led to the slaughter house.
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Prove it.

Show mea single study proving the virus is airborn, or has been transferred from person to person in any fashion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


So how do these people who get sick get it? eg in Italy?
Ostria
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Our leaders have not even recognised that SARS-Cov-2 can be contagious during incubation period.

Noobs. Sheep are being led to the slaughter house.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


Prove it.

Show mea single study proving the virus is airborn, or has been transferred from person to person in any fashion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


Shanghai government officially confirmed the virus 🦠can be spread through aerosol
[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Officially airborne 🌬- Confirmed routes of the novel #coronavirus now includes aerosol transmission.
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Our leaders have not even recognised that SARS-Cov-2 can be contagious during incubation period.

Noobs. Sheep are being led to the slaughter house.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


Prove it.

Show mea single study proving the virus is airborn, or has been transferred from person to person in any fashion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


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Shanghai government officially confirmed the virus 🦠can be spread through aerosol
[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Officially airborne 🌬- Confirmed routes of the novel #coronavirus now includes aerosol transmission.
[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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WOW twitter is a peer review scientific journal now?

Are you people really this stupid?
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Our leaders have not even recognised that SARS-Cov-2 can be contagious during incubation period.

Noobs. Sheep are being led to the slaughter house.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


Prove it.

Show mea single study proving the virus is airborn, or has been transferred from person to person in any fashion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


So how do these people who get sick get it? eg in Italy?
 Quoting: Ostria1


In Italy: 99% Died from other pre-existing complications
5a


[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]


Italian Health Ministry Report:
In Italian:
[link to www.epicentro.iss.it (secure)]
Translated: [link to translate.google.com (secure)]

"The mean age of deceased and COVID-19 positive patients is 79.5 years (median 80.5, range 31-103, Table 1 presents the most common pre-existing chronic pathologies (diagnosed before contracting infection) in deceased patients."

Look at table 1, the majority that died already had Heart Disease, Hypertension, Diabetes or other serious conditions. 99% had serious pre-existing conditions.

In fact, when this was written, according to the Italian Health Ministry, only THREE people that died had no prior pre-existing condition. 1rof1

Northern Italy has one of the oldest populations and the worst air quality in Europe, which has already led to an increased number of respiratory diseases.

I wonder if poor air quality has something to do with people's failing respiration; Sort of like New York or L.A?
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it is paradoxical that these collectivists/swedes are the only ones willing to risk even the 'greater good' just to preserve the individual liberties !

Because of this approach, I changend my mind (completly) about the leaders of the Swedish hive --> Now, I RESPECT / support them; now I'm proud to "be" a swed !
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5a
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Our leaders have not even recognised that SARS-Cov-2 can be contagious during incubation period.

Noobs. Sheep are being led to the slaughter house.
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Prove it.

Show mea single study proving the virus is airborn, or has been transferred from person to person in any fashion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


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[link to www.japantimes.co.jp (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


News articles aren't scientific studies moron.

They're press releases.

Show me a scientific study, in an actual peer review journal, not propaganda. I'll wait.
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No, but this is reality.

Even with protective gear... “On Friday, a fire department employee who had helped with patient transport from the Diamond Princess cruise ship quarantined at Yokohama tested positive, despite having worn protective gear.”
[link to twitter.com (secure)]


Show me one that says it is not then moran.
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Prove it.

Show mea single study proving the virus is airborn, or has been transferred from person to person in any fashion.
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[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]
[link to english.kyodonews.net (secure)]
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[link to www.japantimes.co.jp (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


News articles aren't scientific studies moron.

They're press releases.

Show me a scientific study, in an actual peer review journal, not propaganda. I'll wait.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


No, but this is reality.

Even with protective gear... “On Friday, a fire department employee who had helped with patient transport from the Diamond Princess cruise ship quarantined at Yokohama tested positive, despite having worn protective gear.”
[link to twitter.com (secure)]


Show me one that says it is not then moran.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


Is this the 'keep saying it until you believe it' version of a scientific study?

That's not SCIENCE - That's retarded hearsay.

EVERYONE is testing positive because the test doesn't do anything. It CAN'T actually detect a virus.
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Our leaders have not even recognised that SARS-Cov-2 can be contagious during incubation period.

Noobs. Sheep are being led to the slaughter house.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


Prove it.

Show mea single study proving the virus is airborn, or has been transferred from person to person in any fashion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


So how do these people who get sick get it? eg in Italy?
 Quoting: Ostria1


In Italy: 99% Died from other pre-existing complications
5a


[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]


Italian Health Ministry Report:
In Italian:
[link to www.epicentro.iss.it (secure)]
Translated: [link to translate.google.com (secure)]

"The mean age of deceased and COVID-19 positive patients is 79.5 years (median 80.5, range 31-103, Table 1 presents the most common pre-existing chronic pathologies (diagnosed before contracting infection) in deceased patients."

Look at table 1, the majority that died already had Heart Disease, Hypertension, Diabetes or other serious conditions. 99% had serious pre-existing conditions.

In fact, when this was written, according to the Italian Health Ministry, only THREE people that died had no prior pre-existing condition. 1rof1

Northern Italy has one of the oldest populations and the worst air quality in Europe, which has already led to an increased number of respiratory diseases.

I wonder if poor air quality has something to do with people's failing respiration; Sort of like New York or L.A?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


BS report.

Yeah, but then why is 22 % of all people in swedish intensive care treated for ncov2019 outside of risk-groups ?
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Interesting how Swedish gov approach and the approach
President Trump would prefer are somewhat similar
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News articles aren't scientific studies moron.

They're press releases.

Show me a scientific study, in an actual peer review journal, not propaganda. I'll wait.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


No, but this is reality.

Even with protective gear... “On Friday, a fire department employee who had helped with patient transport from the Diamond Princess cruise ship quarantined at Yokohama tested positive, despite having worn protective gear.”
[link to twitter.com (secure)]


Show me one that says it is not then moran.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


Is this the 'keep saying it until you believe it' version of a scientific study?

That's not SCIENCE - That's retarded hearsay.

EVERYONE is testing positive because the test doesn't do anything. It CAN'T actually detect a virus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


Ok, we understand. You are unable to use your own brain without "expert-studies" telling you it is ok.
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I would figure Finland would follow suit..aren’t they the most depressed and suicidal ppl on the planet?

We need to open everything back up. I fear that we will need to show proof of vaccine prior to entering a large gathering or sporting event in the future.
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Maria Barteloma (sp?) just asked a guy that today on her TV show. She asked if they are going to have a propalactic shot that people can get so they can work for so many months , in order to get the economy rolling again.
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Prove it.

Show mea single study proving the virus is airborn, or has been transferred from person to person in any fashion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


So how do these people who get sick get it? eg in Italy?
 Quoting: Ostria1


In Italy: 99% Died from other pre-existing complications
5a


[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]


Italian Health Ministry Report:
In Italian:
[link to www.epicentro.iss.it (secure)]
Translated: [link to translate.google.com (secure)]

"The mean age of deceased and COVID-19 positive patients is 79.5 years (median 80.5, range 31-103, Table 1 presents the most common pre-existing chronic pathologies (diagnosed before contracting infection) in deceased patients."

Look at table 1, the majority that died already had Heart Disease, Hypertension, Diabetes or other serious conditions. 99% had serious pre-existing conditions.

In fact, when this was written, according to the Italian Health Ministry, only THREE people that died had no prior pre-existing condition. 1rof1

Northern Italy has one of the oldest populations and the worst air quality in Europe, which has already led to an increased number of respiratory diseases.

I wonder if poor air quality has something to do with people's failing respiration; Sort of like New York or L.A?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


BS report.

Yeah, but then why is 22 % of all people in swedish intensive care treated for ncov2019 outside of risk-groups ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328



No, they're not. It's right in the health ministers report. the link is right there in front of your face.

SHOW me actual data, not news BS.
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Sweden must not be clued in about the return of Nibiru that this is really all abotu.
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Sorry for the misery your country is about to face :(
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They are deceivingly selling you the quarantine on TV as a way to avoid been killed by the virus,
as if the danger would pass after a few months of hiding...
when in reality it's just a way to postpone it, so to flatten the curve and go gentle on hospitals.

Basically, they took away your right to decide if/when you want to die.
They decided you are not allowed to die right now but at a later date!

Well, the swedish medical system is more than capable can handle a steep curve
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i just read several accounts from swedish nurses, they are all saying sweden is fucked. You are at the very beginning of the exponential part. most human cannot perceive exponentials until it is too late. good luck with that
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Did you pay your mortgage yet?Your car payment?Typical leftist asshole.
Look at the cawk on that dawg
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So how do these people who get sick get it? eg in Italy?
 Quoting: Ostria1


In Italy: 99% Died from other pre-existing complications
5a


[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]


Italian Health Ministry Report:
In Italian:
[link to www.epicentro.iss.it (secure)]
Translated: [link to translate.google.com (secure)]

"The mean age of deceased and COVID-19 positive patients is 79.5 years (median 80.5, range 31-103, Table 1 presents the most common pre-existing chronic pathologies (diagnosed before contracting infection) in deceased patients."

Look at table 1, the majority that died already had Heart Disease, Hypertension, Diabetes or other serious conditions. 99% had serious pre-existing conditions.

In fact, when this was written, according to the Italian Health Ministry, only THREE people that died had no prior pre-existing condition. 1rof1

Northern Italy has one of the oldest populations and the worst air quality in Europe, which has already led to an increased number of respiratory diseases.

I wonder if poor air quality has something to do with people's failing respiration; Sort of like New York or L.A?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


BS report.

Yeah, but then why is 22 % of all people in swedish intensive care treated for ncov2019 outside of risk-groups ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328



No, they're not. It's right in the health ministers report. the link is right there in front of your face.

SHOW me actual data, not news BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


Here retard:

"Någon riskfaktor: 76,4%"

23.6% is not risk-group.


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Most of Sweden is chipped. They already known what strand who has an they are cured. Unless they step out of line. Kinda like here in the US in next few weeks.
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News articles aren't scientific studies moron.

They're press releases.

Show me a scientific study, in an actual peer review journal, not propaganda. I'll wait.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


No, but this is reality.

Even with protective gear... “On Friday, a fire department employee who had helped with patient transport from the Diamond Princess cruise ship quarantined at Yokohama tested positive, despite having worn protective gear.”
[link to twitter.com (secure)]


Show me one that says it is not then moran.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


Is this the 'keep saying it until you believe it' version of a scientific study?

That's not SCIENCE - That's retarded hearsay.

EVERYONE is testing positive because the test doesn't do anything. It CAN'T actually detect a virus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


Ok, we understand. You are unable to use your own brain without "expert-studies" telling you it is ok.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328

epiclol

You are braindead. Is this really just a 'keep saying it' until you make yourself believe it situation?

That's how gullible and utterly stupid you are. You want to see science? Here's science.

Why does the inventor of the PCR test being used to test for 'corona virus' say it doesn't work? , His name is Kary Mullis, in-fact he won a Nobel Prize for his invention:

[link to www.nobelprize.org (secure)]

Oh just one thing, he says it can't actually do what these quacks are

saying it can do:
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

"With regard to the viral-load tests, which attempt to use PCR for counting viruses, Mullis has stated: “Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron.”

PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral-load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV. The tests can detect genetic
sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves [(29), p. 3]."

Further, the PCR test is know to give false-positives, and is unfit for 'viral load' testing.

False positive studies:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

"Here we show that in both subjects, this reverse transcription PCR test for HIV gave positive results early after gene transfer. Despite extensive search for presence of wild-type infectious HIV-1 or vector-derived replication-competent virus, none was detected. Our data demonstrate that the Roche COBAS AmpliPrep HIV-1 test gave false-positive results for our two patients; this finding has important social, economic, and informed-consent implications for the subjects of other LV-based clinical studies."

OR
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Results: When the infection rate of the close contacts and the sensitivity and specificity of reported results were taken as the point estimates, the positive predictive value of the active screening was only 19.67%, in contrast, the false-positive rate of positive results was 80.33%. The multivariate-probabilistic sensitivity analysis results
supported the base-case findings, with a 75% probability for the false-positive rate of positive results over 47%. Conclusions: In the close contacts of COVID-19 patients, nearly half or even more of the 'asymptomatic infected individuals' reported in the active nucleic acid
test screening might be false positives.



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"Only one of 27 qPCR-positive samples was confirmed to be positive by NGS. Conversely, 10 of 15 samples with low qPCR-detected MRD positivity from 13 patients who subsequently relapsed were also confirmed to be positive by NGS (P=0.002). These data show that NGS has a better
specificity in post-SCT ALL management and indicate that TREATMENT interventions aimed at reverting impending relapse SHOULD NOT BE BASED ON A q PCR ONLY." (CAPS MINE).

Translation: PCR has ALOT of false positives, don't use it.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

"Among 190 patients diagnosed with PTB, 16 (8.4%) showed positivity on either TB/NTM PCR or Xpert MTB/RIF assay, i.e., false positivity. A majority of them (14 patients, 87.5%) showed false positivity in real-time TB/NTM PCR assay"


Translation: Why did we even bother with a PCR test?

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Even more false positive studies:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

[link to nccc.ucsf.edu (secure)]

In fact, the PCR test, formerly used to detect HIV, is no longer allowed by licensed physicians to be performed to detect HIV, because it is unreliable and gives false positives.

So you're using a 20 year old FAULTY test that his been proven to be useless as your basis to 'prove' coronavirus"?

Can you cranks show me a single study proving the virus has been isolated, separated, replicated in a live sample, and that the sample indicated like symptoms? Let alone a controlled study proving this virus is communicable from person to person, or even animal to animal, or evidence that it is airborn?

I'll WAIT.



HIV Center:
"A PCR test (viral load test) are neither approved or recommended for routine HIV testing by people who just want to test more quickly than the four weeks recommended with an antigen/antibody test. They are less accurate , more expensive and require more complicated laboratory technology.
[link to i-base.info]

So we're to believe an archaic test that doesn't even work is the all the 'proof' we need that Corona Virus is going around causing death?

It is a useless metric. Literally ANYONE will have the virus if you let the PCR test run long enough, because it's just re-building a tiny strand of RNA, not an actual virus sample.

Can these crank doctors show me a single study proving the virus has been isolated, separated, replicated in a live sample, and that the sample indicated like symptoms? Let alone a controlled study proving this virus is communicable from person to person, or even animal to animal, or evidence that it is airborn?

This entire 'social distancing' scenario is based on the false-premise that this virus is airborn, yet not a single study has proven it.rant

Even the CDC and WHO admit they don't know what they're testing for, and the test doesn't work:

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

From “CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR

Diagnostic Panel” [1]:

Detection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms.”

From the World Health Organization (WHO): “Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) technical guidance: Laboratory testing for 2019-nCoV in humans”

[2]:

[link to www.who.int (secure)]

“Several assays that detect the 2019-nCoV have been and are currently under development, both in-house and commercially. Some assays may detect only the novel virus [COVID] and some may also detect other strains (e.g. SARS-CoV) that are genetically similar.”

TRANSLATION: We REALLY DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT WE'RE FINDING HERE, BUT WE'LL CALL IT COVID19 ANYWAY.

“Protocol use limitations: Optional clinical specimens for testing has [have] not yet been validated.”

Translation: We’re not sure which tissue samples to take from the patient in order for the test to have any validity.


[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

From the FDA: “LabCorp COVID-19RT-PCR test EUA Summary: ACCELERATED EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION (EUA) SUMMARYCOVID-19 RT-PCR TEST (LABORATORY CORPORATION OF AMERICA)” [3]:

“…The SARS-CoV-2RNA [COVID virus] is generally detectable in respiratory specimens during the ACUTE phase of infection. Positive results are indicative of the presence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA; clinical correlation with patient history and other diagnostic information is necessary to determine patient infection status…THE AGENT DETECTED MAY NOT BE THE DEFINITE CAUSE OF DISEASE (CAPS are mine).

Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities.”

TRANSLATION: Even though the 'virus' can only be detectable in people with symptoms, we're testing people without symptoms and claiming they're 'infected'. Further, we're not really sure that's what making anyone sick, because it might not be the actual cause of disease, so just play along.


[link to www.creative-diagnostics.com (secure)]

From a manufacturer of PCR test kit elements, Creative Diagnostics, “SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus Multiplex RT-qPCR Kit” [4]:

“Regulatory status: For research use only, not for use in diagnostic procedures.”1dunno1

Translation: Don’t use this test alone to diagnose infection or disease. Oops. We do anyway.

“non-specific interference of Influenza A Virus (H1N1), Influenza B Virus (Yamagata), Respiratory Syncytial Virus (type B), Respiratory Adenovirus (type 3, type 7), Parainfluenza Virus (type 2), Mycoplasma Pneumoniae, Chlamydia Pneumoniae, etc.”

Translation: This test will show a false-positive for ANY virus, including the FLU. What is the test proving, then? Who knows? Flip a coin.

“Application Qualitative”

Translation: This means the test is not suited to detect how much virus is in the patient’s body. A PCR test DOES NOT test the 'amount' of virus, or prove it has spread throughout the body, like the quacks are claiming.

Even, if by some stretch of the imagination, the tests did work, doctors say it's ONLY THE FLU. (Well duh, because they're including Influenza and Pnemonia in the statistics).

[link to www.nejm.org (secure)]

“If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally
symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza.

TRANSLATION: Even if it's real, which we CAN'T PROVE - it's just the FLU.


This jerkit is a bag of dicks - eat them shill.
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They can't shut things down because all the Somalians they imported won't listen. Not a joke.
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Its like a TwilightZone episode.
I live in a forest and its far between the houses here.
My life is pretty much the same as usual,im planting and preparing my greenhouse and making new spaces to grow more food.
I do have to go to town to buy some stuff maby once a week.(vodka,rom,beer)
Im the only one in town that wears a mask! It is suposed to be max 50 persons in the same location at a time,but at my grocery store parkinglot there where atleast 100 cars.
So i skiped it and I went to another store later in the evening .I was there all alone,that was realy sweet.
Nothing is missing in the store the shelves are full.
The only new now is big plastic windows between me and the casheir and markings on the floor that nobody cares about.
I hear that it is half dead in Stockholm (100 km from here),aparently most of the people chilling at home.
Personaly I think its gona go to hell big time here!
2 miljon imigrant freebees is gona flipp-out when there is no more free money.Im prepping for war and the death of civilisation...
I belive that this is a bioweapon and that this is only the begining.
I hope im wrong,only time can tell.
I knew about the virus in early January,i saw the fucking nightmare videos from Wuhan,my wife didnt listen in the begining,we had some enormous fights. Then she started to see reports in the msm and she started to listen to what i knew, we got the kids out of school early february.
The Kids get school via the computors, so we dont have to do all the schoolig during the days.They do learn to shoot a gun and make a fire and other stuff now that they dont learn in school.
Anyway Its going to be very interesting to see where this experimental country is going.
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Wow, how did you do that with the kids and school?

We also took our kids out of school at the end of januari, but we have been under investigation by the CPS (soc) ever since.
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Told them that I have an autoimune issue,witch I have.
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Most of Sweden is chipped. They already known what strand who has an they are cured. Unless they step out of line. Kinda like here in the US in next few weeks.
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Most of Sweden is chipped. They already known what strand who has an they are cured. Unless they step out of line. Kinda like here in the US in next few weeks.
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What are you talking about....just because you saw a small youtube clip about some people trying out chips in Sweden......Stupid sheep





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