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Sweden has not closed the bars. Shopping malls are open. Schools and companies are open too.

 
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In Italy: 99% Died from other pre-existing complications
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[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]


Italian Health Ministry Report:
In Italian:
[link to www.epicentro.iss.it (secure)]
Translated: [link to translate.google.com (secure)]

"The mean age of deceased and COVID-19 positive patients is 79.5 years (median 80.5, range 31-103, Table 1 presents the most common pre-existing chronic pathologies (diagnosed before contracting infection) in deceased patients."

Look at table 1, the majority that died already had Heart Disease, Hypertension, Diabetes or other serious conditions. 99% had serious pre-existing conditions.

In fact, when this was written, according to the Italian Health Ministry, only THREE people that died had no prior pre-existing condition. 1rof1

Northern Italy has one of the oldest populations and the worst air quality in Europe, which has already led to an increased number of respiratory diseases.

I wonder if poor air quality has something to do with people's failing respiration; Sort of like New York or L.A?
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BS report.

Yeah, but then why is 22 % of all people in swedish intensive care treated for ncov2019 outside of risk-groups ?
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No, they're not. It's right in the health ministers report. the link is right there in front of your face.

SHOW me actual data, not news BS.
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Here retard:

"Någon riskfaktor: 76,4%"

23.6% is not risk-group.


[link to www.icuregswe.org (secure)]
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Can't you do math?

Chronic cardiovascular disease: 24.9%
Chronic liver-kidney disease: 4.6%
Diabetes: 25.4%
hypertension: 35.2%
Some risk factor: 76.4%


The report you just linked says 90% (added them up) had either Chronic cardio diseas, liver disease, diabetes, or hypertension.

Then it says 'some risk factor' is: Some risk factors include: children with multiple dysfunction, hypertension, age over 65, pregnancy, chronic heart-lung disease, chronic liver-kidney disease, immune deficiency, diabetes, obesity, neuromuscular disease.


So 90% are the serious illness cases (PREEXISTING), and another 76% for random dsyfunction, hypertension, over 65, chronic heart-lung disease.

Are you just making shit up hoping people are too stupid to read it?
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THIS should show how powerful this virus truly is. If Sweden has no huge death toll with it, then the virus may be fake.
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Or designed to target sertain groups?
I hear that it is a lot of Somalis that die here?
But you could never get that info in Sweden,that would make you a Nazi to even think about that.
PC is strong in Sweden,I would love to see it crushed!
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Also, you Swedes might have more common sense and discipline in isolating yourselves without being FORCED to do it.

Yes, the PC needs to be done away with, so we can study how the different races are impacted by this virus.

:GREENSARS:

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:DOCSRBAFFLED::redblueLED::DONTBEAPANDEMICS:
Only you can stop the fake pandemic for yourself, no one will ever tell you the pandemic is over. It's time to WIN.
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Nobody's staying home in Southern Oregon. The roads are packed with cars, and people are shopping at the large stores that are open, basically any store that sells pet food or livestock food, which are all the big hardware stores. I'm not sure what stores are closed other than trinket shops, because it doesn't seem like it takes much to stay open.

The economy sure hasn't ground to a stop here. People are out all over the place, recreating, building, etc. It actually seems to be more active than normal.


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No, but this is reality.

Even with protective gear... “On Friday, a fire department employee who had helped with patient transport from the Diamond Princess cruise ship quarantined at Yokohama tested positive, despite having worn protective gear.”
[link to twitter.com (secure)]


Show me one that says it is not then moran.
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Is this the 'keep saying it until you believe it' version of a scientific study?

That's not SCIENCE - That's retarded hearsay.

EVERYONE is testing positive because the test doesn't do anything. It CAN'T actually detect a virus.
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Ok, we understand. You are unable to use your own brain without "expert-studies" telling you it is ok.
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epiclol

You are braindead. Is this really just a 'keep saying it' until you make yourself believe it situation?

That's how gullible and utterly stupid you are. You want to see science? Here's science.

Why does the inventor of the PCR test being used to test for 'corona virus' say it doesn't work? , His name is Kary Mullis, in-fact he won a Nobel Prize for his invention:

[link to www.nobelprize.org (secure)]

Oh just one thing, he says it can't actually do what these quacks are

saying it can do:
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

"With regard to the viral-load tests, which attempt to use PCR for counting viruses, Mullis has stated: “Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron.”

PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral-load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV. The tests can detect genetic
sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves [(29), p. 3]."

Further, the PCR test is know to give false-positives, and is unfit for 'viral load' testing.

False positive studies:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

"Here we show that in both subjects, this reverse transcription PCR test for HIV gave positive results early after gene transfer. Despite extensive search for presence of wild-type infectious HIV-1 or vector-derived replication-competent virus, none was detected. Our data demonstrate that the Roche COBAS AmpliPrep HIV-1 test gave false-positive results for our two patients; this finding has important social, economic, and informed-consent implications for the subjects of other LV-based clinical studies."

OR
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Results: When the infection rate of the close contacts and the sensitivity and specificity of reported results were taken as the point estimates, the positive predictive value of the active screening was only 19.67%, in contrast, the false-positive rate of positive results was 80.33%. The multivariate-probabilistic sensitivity analysis results
supported the base-case findings, with a 75% probability for the false-positive rate of positive results over 47%. Conclusions: In the close contacts of COVID-19 patients, nearly half or even more of the 'asymptomatic infected individuals' reported in the active nucleic acid
test screening might be false positives.



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"Only one of 27 qPCR-positive samples was confirmed to be positive by NGS. Conversely, 10 of 15 samples with low qPCR-detected MRD positivity from 13 patients who subsequently relapsed were also confirmed to be positive by NGS (P=0.002). These data show that NGS has a better
specificity in post-SCT ALL management and indicate that TREATMENT interventions aimed at reverting impending relapse SHOULD NOT BE BASED ON A q PCR ONLY." (CAPS MINE).

Translation: PCR has ALOT of false positives, don't use it.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

"Among 190 patients diagnosed with PTB, 16 (8.4%) showed positivity on either TB/NTM PCR or Xpert MTB/RIF assay, i.e., false positivity. A majority of them (14 patients, 87.5%) showed false positivity in real-time TB/NTM PCR assay"


Translation: Why did we even bother with a PCR test?

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Even more false positive studies:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

[link to nccc.ucsf.edu (secure)]

In fact, the PCR test, formerly used to detect HIV, is no longer allowed by licensed physicians to be performed to detect HIV, because it is unreliable and gives false positives.

So you're using a 20 year old FAULTY test that his been proven to be useless as your basis to 'prove' coronavirus"?

Can you cranks show me a single study proving the virus has been isolated, separated, replicated in a live sample, and that the sample indicated like symptoms? Let alone a controlled study proving this virus is communicable from person to person, or even animal to animal, or evidence that it is airborn?

I'll WAIT.



HIV Center:
"A PCR test (viral load test) are neither approved or recommended for routine HIV testing by people who just want to test more quickly than the four weeks recommended with an antigen/antibody test. They are less accurate , more expensive and require more complicated laboratory technology.
[link to i-base.info]

So we're to believe an archaic test that doesn't even work is the all the 'proof' we need that Corona Virus is going around causing death?

It is a useless metric. Literally ANYONE will have the virus if you let the PCR test run long enough, because it's just re-building a tiny strand of RNA, not an actual virus sample.

Can these crank doctors show me a single study proving the virus has been isolated, separated, replicated in a live sample, and that the sample indicated like symptoms? Let alone a controlled study proving this virus is communicable from person to person, or even animal to animal, or evidence that it is airborn?

This entire 'social distancing' scenario is based on the false-premise that this virus is airborn, yet not a single study has proven it.rant

Even the CDC and WHO admit they don't know what they're testing for, and the test doesn't work:

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

From “CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR

Diagnostic Panel” [1]:

Detection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms.”

From the World Health Organization (WHO): “Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) technical guidance: Laboratory testing for 2019-nCoV in humans”

[2]:

[link to www.who.int (secure)]

“Several assays that detect the 2019-nCoV have been and are currently under development, both in-house and commercially. Some assays may detect only the novel virus [COVID] and some may also detect other strains (e.g. SARS-CoV) that are genetically similar.”

TRANSLATION: We REALLY DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT WE'RE FINDING HERE, BUT WE'LL CALL IT COVID19 ANYWAY.

“Protocol use limitations: Optional clinical specimens for testing has [have] not yet been validated.”

Translation: We’re not sure which tissue samples to take from the patient in order for the test to have any validity.


[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

From the FDA: “LabCorp COVID-19RT-PCR test EUA Summary: ACCELERATED EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION (EUA) SUMMARYCOVID-19 RT-PCR TEST (LABORATORY CORPORATION OF AMERICA)” [3]:

“…The SARS-CoV-2RNA [COVID virus] is generally detectable in respiratory specimens during the ACUTE phase of infection. Positive results are indicative of the presence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA; clinical correlation with patient history and other diagnostic information is necessary to determine patient infection status…THE AGENT DETECTED MAY NOT BE THE DEFINITE CAUSE OF DISEASE (CAPS are mine).

Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities.”

TRANSLATION: Even though the 'virus' can only be detectable in people with symptoms, we're testing people without symptoms and claiming they're 'infected'. Further, we're not really sure that's what making anyone sick, because it might not be the actual cause of disease, so just play along.


[link to www.creative-diagnostics.com (secure)]

From a manufacturer of PCR test kit elements, Creative Diagnostics, “SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus Multiplex RT-qPCR Kit” [4]:

“Regulatory status: For research use only, not for use in diagnostic procedures.”1dunno1

Translation: Don’t use this test alone to diagnose infection or disease. Oops. We do anyway.

“non-specific interference of Influenza A Virus (H1N1), Influenza B Virus (Yamagata), Respiratory Syncytial Virus (type B), Respiratory Adenovirus (type 3, type 7), Parainfluenza Virus (type 2), Mycoplasma Pneumoniae, Chlamydia Pneumoniae, etc.”

Translation: This test will show a false-positive for ANY virus, including the FLU. What is the test proving, then? Who knows? Flip a coin.

“Application Qualitative”

Translation: This means the test is not suited to detect how much virus is in the patient’s body. A PCR test DOES NOT test the 'amount' of virus, or prove it has spread throughout the body, like the quacks are claiming.

Even, if by some stretch of the imagination, the tests did work, doctors say it's ONLY THE FLU. (Well duh, because they're including Influenza and Pnemonia in the statistics).

[link to www.nejm.org (secure)]

“If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally
symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza.

TRANSLATION: Even if it's real, which we CAN'T PROVE - it's just the FLU.


This jerkit is a bag of dicks - eat them shill.
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Did you miss the 100 videos from China, Iran and Equador?

No matter how many words you try to put forth, they are just getting you lost from reality.
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BS report.

Yeah, but then why is 22 % of all people in swedish intensive care treated for ncov2019 outside of risk-groups ?
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No, they're not. It's right in the health ministers report. the link is right there in front of your face.

SHOW me actual data, not news BS.
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Here retard:

"Någon riskfaktor: 76,4%"

23.6% is not risk-group.


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Can't you do math?

Chronic cardiovascular disease: 24.9%
Chronic liver-kidney disease: 4.6%
Diabetes: 25.4%
hypertension: 35.2%
Some risk factor: 76.4%


The report you just linked says 90% (added them up) had either Chronic cardio diseas, liver disease, diabetes, or hypertension.

Then it says 'some risk factor' is: Some risk factors include: children with multiple dysfunction, hypertension, age over 65, pregnancy, chronic heart-lung disease, chronic liver-kidney disease, immune deficiency, diabetes, obesity, neuromuscular disease.


So 90% are the serious illness cases (PREEXISTING), and another 76% for random dsyfunction, hypertension, over 65, chronic heart-lung disease.

Are you just making shit up hoping people are too stupid to read it?
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You forgot that people can actually have 2 conditions.
So no, it is not 90%.

You just made stuff up and failed.
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No, they're not. It's right in the health ministers report. the link is right there in front of your face.

SHOW me actual data, not news BS.
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Here retard:

"Någon riskfaktor: 76,4%"

23.6% is not risk-group.


[link to www.icuregswe.org (secure)]
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Can't you do math?

Chronic cardiovascular disease: 24.9%
Chronic liver-kidney disease: 4.6%
Diabetes: 25.4%
hypertension: 35.2%
Some risk factor: 76.4%


The report you just linked says 90% (added them up) had either Chronic cardio diseas, liver disease, diabetes, or hypertension.

Then it says 'some risk factor' is: Some risk factors include: children with multiple dysfunction, hypertension, age over 65, pregnancy, chronic heart-lung disease, chronic liver-kidney disease, immune deficiency, diabetes, obesity, neuromuscular disease.


So 90% are the serious illness cases (PREEXISTING), and another 76% for random dsyfunction, hypertension, over 65, chronic heart-lung disease.

Are you just making shit up hoping people are too stupid to read it?
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You forgot that people can actually have 2 conditions.
So no, it is not 90%.

You just made stuff up and failed.
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epiclol

Okay, you're an actual retarded person, or a shill.

anyone can read it themselves and see you're full of utter shit:

[link to translate.google.com (secure)]




I linked about 20 studies proving YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT above.

Good luck with your 'youtube video' proof.
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Didn't they close the boarders almost immediately?
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Here retard:

"Någon riskfaktor: 76,4%"

23.6% is not risk-group.


[link to www.icuregswe.org (secure)]
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Can't you do math?

Chronic cardiovascular disease: 24.9%
Chronic liver-kidney disease: 4.6%
Diabetes: 25.4%
hypertension: 35.2%
Some risk factor: 76.4%


The report you just linked says 90% (added them up) had either Chronic cardio diseas, liver disease, diabetes, or hypertension.

Then it says 'some risk factor' is: Some risk factors include: children with multiple dysfunction, hypertension, age over 65, pregnancy, chronic heart-lung disease, chronic liver-kidney disease, immune deficiency, diabetes, obesity, neuromuscular disease.


So 90% are the serious illness cases (PREEXISTING), and another 76% for random dsyfunction, hypertension, over 65, chronic heart-lung disease.

Are you just making shit up hoping people are too stupid to read it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


You forgot that people can actually have 2 conditions.
So no, it is not 90%.

You just made stuff up and failed.
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epiclol

Okay, you're an actual retarded person, or a shill.

anyone can read it themselves and see you're full of utter shit:

[link to translate.google.com (secure)]




I linked about 20 studies proving YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT above.

Good luck with your 'youtube video' proof.
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You never explained why 23% of all people in intensive care are not risk-group? According to your studies that is not supposed to happen.
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Over 50 % of households in Sweden consits of one person.
That kinda slows down the contamination and helps with self-isolation, if needed.
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They are dying alone so no one knows the true count.
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Can't you do math?

Chronic cardiovascular disease: 24.9%
Chronic liver-kidney disease: 4.6%
Diabetes: 25.4%
hypertension: 35.2%
Some risk factor: 76.4%


The report you just linked says 90% (added them up) had either Chronic cardio diseas, liver disease, diabetes, or hypertension.

Then it says 'some risk factor' is: Some risk factors include: children with multiple dysfunction, hypertension, age over 65, pregnancy, chronic heart-lung disease, chronic liver-kidney disease, immune deficiency, diabetes, obesity, neuromuscular disease.


So 90% are the serious illness cases (PREEXISTING), and another 76% for random dsyfunction, hypertension, over 65, chronic heart-lung disease.

Are you just making shit up hoping people are too stupid to read it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78740107


You forgot that people can actually have 2 conditions.
So no, it is not 90%.

You just made stuff up and failed.
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epiclol

Okay, you're an actual retarded person, or a shill.

anyone can read it themselves and see you're full of utter shit:

[link to translate.google.com (secure)]




I linked about 20 studies proving YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT above.

Good luck with your 'youtube video' proof.
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You never explained why 23% of all people in intensive care are not risk-group? According to your studies that is not supposed to happen.
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That's not what your own link says moron - you are literally making shit up.

Can't you count? Go back to grade school or get a better job to earn your $3.50
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Prepare for the mother of all s**t storms if Sweden pulls this off

APRIL 4, 2020

If Sweden, which has not locked down its economy and society, emerges with a death toll from COVID-19 that is somewhere in the middle of the pack of European countries, there is going to be a lot of recrimination, particularly against those who have tried to silence any discussion about the true extent of the threat that COVID-19 actually poses

In a word: Sweden. What happens if they pull this off? What happens if it turns out that we could have coped with COVID-19 without collapsing entire sectors of the economy putting millions on the dole, and imposing some of the most draconian restrictions on civil liberties in living memory?

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Maybe China didn't target them like most other countries.
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Got any videos of grocery stores with people just walking around buying their stuff without having to pick from bare shelves and standing in long lines like in the old Soviet Union?

Or my local store yesterday?
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I could go to the shops tomorrow and make such video. You don't notice the pandemic there other than some signs telling people to keep their distance and wash their hands. Food is plentiful and we are not limited in how many people can be inside at any one moment.
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You forgot that people can actually have 2 conditions.
So no, it is not 90%.

You just made stuff up and failed.
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epiclol

Okay, you're an actual retarded person, or a shill.

anyone can read it themselves and see you're full of utter shit:

[link to translate.google.com (secure)]




I linked about 20 studies proving YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT above.

Good luck with your 'youtube video' proof.
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You never explained why 23% of all people in intensive care are not risk-group? According to your studies that is not supposed to happen.
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That's not what your own link says moron - you are literally making shit up.

Can't you count? Go back to grade school or get a better job to earn your $3.50
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It is science. It says right there: "Some risk factor: 76.4%"

Math then says, non-risk-group 23.6%
Are you fucking retarded?
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Our super markets here in Greece are full with the exception of some cleaning items because of the demand, but they restock them easily. So this is not a sign, for now.
Ostria
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Why does the inventor of the PCR test being used to test for 'corona virus' say it doesn't work? ,
His name is Kary Mullis, in-fact he won a Nobel Prize for his invention...
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For those who don't know, NOBEL prize = SWEDEN .
You think we don't know this ^ was a mistake? secrets
Heh, heh.. Of course we know, but we also have to save face.. We do have a Nobel Wall of Shame but it's not public naughty

Maybe the swedish leaders really do know something..
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Sweden has 40 deaths per million. The US has 28 per million. I'm not sharing this to make some opinion of Sweden's handling of the situation versus the US's. Just showing that Sweden hasn't been spared as implied.
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Do you think you people could provide a link or something to back up all this stuff?

Hype-o-rama.
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Maybe China didn't target them like most other countries.
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I just think Sweden is 3-4 weeks back to the southern Europe and the UK. We will see in May how it goes.
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Yep, thats true. Everything is kind like normal here. No masks, some people use vinyl gloves in stores. Other that that it’s almost business as usual. I’m from Sweden.

Ask me any question..
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What’re your current Covid19 numbers? Infected/deaths How are you all keeping it from spreading if everything is open and business is as-usual? Also, do you have 5G?
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Official numbers are 6800 infected and 402 deaths. I think we don’t keep it from spreading here, I think it’s spreading like a wildfire. Our elderly at nursing homes has been severely affected. I think Sweden will explode in cases. We got 5g (only as a test if I understood it right) in Stockholm, just we’re the covid has hit the hardest.

This is why I staying put away from society as much as I can.
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Yep, thats true. Everything is kind like normal here. No masks, some people use vinyl gloves in stores. Other that that it’s almost business as usual. I’m from Sweden.

Ask me any question..
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What’re your current Covid19 numbers? Infected/deaths How are you all keeping it from spreading if everything is open and business is as-usual? Also, do you have 5G?
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Official numbers are 6800 infected and 402 deaths. I think we don’t keep it from spreading here, I think it’s spreading like a wildfire. Our elderly at nursing homes has been severely affected. I think Sweden will explode in cases. We got 5g (only as a test if I understood it right) in Stockholm, just we’re the covid has hit the hardest.

This is why I staying put away from society as much as I can.
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04/05/2020 01:11 PM
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Re: Sweden has not closed the bars. Shopping malls are open. Schools and companies are open too.
Got any videos of grocery stores with people just walking around buying their stuff without having to pick from bare shelves and standing in long lines like in the old Soviet Union?

Or my local store yesterday?
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I could go to the shops tomorrow and make such video. You don't notice the pandemic there other than some signs telling people to keep their distance and wash their hands. Food is plentiful and we are not limited in how many people can be inside at any one moment.
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Yes, we might run out of fruits and other foods that don't naturally grow here but at least we have lots of meat, fish, vegetables and clean water.
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04/05/2020 01:20 PM
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Re: Sweden has not closed the bars. Shopping malls are open. Schools and companies are open too.
it is paradoxical that these collectivists/swedes are the only ones willing to risk even the 'greater good' just to preserve the individual liberties !

Because of this approach, I changend my mind (completly) about the leaders of the Swedish hive --> Now, I RESPECT / support them; now I'm proud to "be" a swed !
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Well, the gov was talking about lockdownish stuff as well.

The whole alternative media is begging and screaming for lockdowns.
Totally brainwashed by MSM fake news.
Pathetic!
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04/05/2020 01:21 PM
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Prepare for the mother of all s**t storms if Sweden pulls this off

APRIL 4, 2020

If Sweden, which has not locked down its economy and society, emerges with a death toll from COVID-19 that is somewhere in the middle of the pack of European countries, there is going to be a lot of recrimination, particularly against those who have tried to silence any discussion about the true extent of the threat that COVID-19 actually poses

In a word: Sweden. What happens if they pull this off? What happens if it turns out that we could have coped with COVID-19 without collapsing entire sectors of the economy putting millions on the dole, and imposing some of the most draconian restrictions on civil liberties in living memory?

[link to johnbwellsnews.com (secure)]
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Maybe China didn't target them like most other countries.
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China and Sweden is not great friends!
Sweden is this little enoying chihuahua naging on China all the time!
Cant say im a great fan of China,we should bring production of most stuff back home.
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Re: Sweden has not closed the bars. Shopping malls are open. Schools and companies are open too.
Its like a TwilightZone episode.
I live in a forest and its far between the houses here.
My life is pretty much the same as usual,im planting and preparing my greenhouse and making new spaces to grow more food.
I do have to go to town to buy some stuff maby once a week.(vodka,rom,beer)
Im the only one in town that wears a mask! It is suposed to be max 50 persons in the same location at a time,but at my grocery store parkinglot there where atleast 100 cars.
So i skiped it and I went to another store later in the evening .I was there all alone,that was realy sweet.
Nothing is missing in the store the shelves are full.
The only new now is big plastic windows between me and the casheir and markings on the floor that nobody cares about.
I hear that it is half dead in Stockholm (100 km from here),aparently most of the people chilling at home.
Personaly I think its gona go to hell big time here!
2 miljon imigrant freebees is gona flipp-out when there is no more free money.Im prepping for war and the death of civilisation...
I belive that this is a bioweapon and that this is only the begining.
I hope im wrong,only time can tell.
I knew about the virus in early January,i saw the fucking nightmare videos from Wuhan,my wife didnt listen in the begining,we had some enormous fights. Then she started to see reports in the msm and she started to listen to what i knew, we got the kids out of school early february.
The Kids get school via the computors, so we dont have to do all the schoolig during the days.They do learn to shoot a gun and make a fire and other stuff now that they dont learn in school.
Anyway Its going to be very interesting to see where this experimental country is going.
GLP is a good friend since 2007,Love most of you!
Peace and Love
Be safe everybody
bitchesbetrippin
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We should get in touch. I like the way you think and I’m doing the exact same thing (live in Sweden despite the US flag on IP)...
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04/05/2020 01:27 PM
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Its like a TwilightZone episode.
I live in a forest and its far between the houses here.
My life is pretty much the same as usual,im planting and preparing my greenhouse and making new spaces to grow more food.
I do have to go to town to buy some stuff maby once a week.(vodka,rom,beer)
Im the only one in town that wears a mask! It is suposed to be max 50 persons in the same location at a time,but at my grocery store parkinglot there where atleast 100 cars.
So i skiped it and I went to another store later in the evening .I was there all alone,that was realy sweet.
Nothing is missing in the store the shelves are full.
The only new now is big plastic windows between me and the casheir and markings on the floor that nobody cares about.
I hear that it is half dead in Stockholm (100 km from here),aparently most of the people chilling at home.
Personaly I think its gona go to hell big time here!
2 miljon imigrant freebees is gona flipp-out when there is no more free money.Im prepping for war and the death of civilisation...
I belive that this is a bioweapon and that this is only the begining.
I hope im wrong,only time can tell.
I knew about the virus in early January,i saw the fucking nightmare videos from Wuhan,my wife didnt listen in the begining,we had some enormous fights. Then she started to see reports in the msm and she started to listen to what i knew, we got the kids out of school early february.
The Kids get school via the computors, so we dont have to do all the schoolig during the days.They do learn to shoot a gun and make a fire and other stuff now that they dont learn in school.
Anyway Its going to be very interesting to see where this experimental country is going.
GLP is a good friend since 2007,Love most of you!
Peace and Love
Be safe everybody
bitchesbetrippin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78156532


Wow, how did you do that with the kids and school?

We also took our kids out of school at the end of januari, but we have been under investigation by the CPS (soc) ever since.
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Did the same. Since you have done it for the safety of your kids, they can not do that. I’ve talked with both soc and school before doing it. Have some documents. You’re not trolling?
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04/05/2020 01:34 PM
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Good luck Sweden.

Because you fucking clowns are going to need it.
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Thanks mate!
banana2
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04/05/2020 01:35 PM
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Re: Sweden has not closed the bars. Shopping malls are open. Schools and companies are open too.
I've never seen such blatant stupidity and still congratulatory nonsense as what's coming out of Sweden these days.

They're playing off their inability to survive a closed society as something great.

Message they're already telling people done will be weeded out at transfer and but even get care while others will get pulled of interested care if they're not doing well.

Sweden had a medical emergency before this even started with undermanned hospitals and doctors who don't even speak the language.

But the servers think they're going great with 5 times higher death toll than their neighbors.

They're toast.
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04/05/2020 01:40 PM
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Re: Sweden has not closed the bars. Shopping malls are open. Schools and companies are open too.
Its like a TwilightZone episode.
I live in a forest and its far between the houses here.
My life is pretty much the same as usual,im planting and preparing my greenhouse and making new spaces to grow more food.
I do have to go to town to buy some stuff maby once a week.(vodka,rom,beer)
Im the only one in town that wears a mask! It is suposed to be max 50 persons in the same location at a time,but at my grocery store parkinglot there where atleast 100 cars.
So i skiped it and I went to another store later in the evening .I was there all alone,that was realy sweet.
Nothing is missing in the store the shelves are full.
The only new now is big plastic windows between me and the casheir and markings on the floor that nobody cares about.
I hear that it is half dead in Stockholm (100 km from here),aparently most of the people chilling at home.
Personaly I think its gona go to hell big time here!
2 miljon imigrant freebees is gona flipp-out when there is no more free money.Im prepping for war and the death of civilisation...
I belive that this is a bioweapon and that this is only the begining.
I hope im wrong,only time can tell.
I knew about the virus in early January,i saw the fucking nightmare videos from Wuhan,my wife didnt listen in the begining,we had some enormous fights. Then she started to see reports in the msm and she started to listen to what i knew, we got the kids out of school early february.
The Kids get school via the computors, so we dont have to do all the schoolig during the days.They do learn to shoot a gun and make a fire and other stuff now that they dont learn in school.
Anyway Its going to be very interesting to see where this experimental country is going.
GLP is a good friend since 2007,Love most of you!
Peace and Love
Be safe everybody
bitchesbetrippin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78156532


Wow, how did you do that with the kids and school?

We also took our kids out of school at the end of januari, but we have been under investigation by the CPS (soc) ever since.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


Did the same. Since you have done it for the safety of your kids, they can not do that. I’ve talked with both soc and school before doing it. Have some documents. You’re not trolling?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78716899


No Im not trolling!Telling the truth here.We actualy got good responce from the principal.Some of my daughters teachers does not like it,she's in 9th grade so its kind of special situation last year before gymnasium.But my wife is one hell of a negotiator.
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04/05/2020 01:44 PM
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We will most likely find out the virus had already exposed most of the population and the lockdowns didn't have much affect. Testing results lagged a week behind the actual on-the-ground situation, and by then everyone was exposed for 2 weeks. WA locked down earlier, but they were also exposed earlier. Can't wait for the antibody sampling to know for sure.
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04/05/2020 01:44 PM
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Re: Sweden has not closed the bars. Shopping malls are open. Schools and companies are open too.
Its like a TwilightZone episode.
I live in a forest and its far between the houses here.
My life is pretty much the same as usual,im planting and preparing my greenhouse and making new spaces to grow more food.
I do have to go to town to buy some stuff maby once a week.(vodka,rom,beer)
Im the only one in town that wears a mask! It is suposed to be max 50 persons in the same location at a time,but at my grocery store parkinglot there where atleast 100 cars.
So i skiped it and I went to another store later in the evening .I was there all alone,that was realy sweet.
Nothing is missing in the store the shelves are full.
The only new now is big plastic windows between me and the casheir and markings on the floor that nobody cares about.
I hear that it is half dead in Stockholm (100 km from here),aparently most of the people chilling at home.
Personaly I think its gona go to hell big time here!
2 miljon imigrant freebees is gona flipp-out when there is no more free money.Im prepping for war and the death of civilisation...
I belive that this is a bioweapon and that this is only the begining.
I hope im wrong,only time can tell.
I knew about the virus in early January,i saw the fucking nightmare videos from Wuhan,my wife didnt listen in the begining,we had some enormous fights. Then she started to see reports in the msm and she started to listen to what i knew, we got the kids out of school early february.
The Kids get school via the computors, so we dont have to do all the schoolig during the days.They do learn to shoot a gun and make a fire and other stuff now that they dont learn in school.
Anyway Its going to be very interesting to see where this experimental country is going.
GLP is a good friend since 2007,Love most of you!
Peace and Love
Be safe everybody
bitchesbetrippin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78156532


Wow, how did you do that with the kids and school?

We also took our kids out of school at the end of januari, but we have been under investigation by the CPS (soc) ever since.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342328


Did the same. Since you have done it for the safety of your kids, they can not do that. I’ve talked with both soc and school before doing it. Have some documents. You’re not trolling?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78716899


No Im not trolling!Telling the truth here.We actualy got good responce from the principal.Some of my daughters teachers does not like it,she's in 9th grade so its kind of special situation last year before gymnasium.But my wife is one hell of a negotiator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78156532


They are not allowed to investigate if the reason is you’re keeping them at home due to safety reasons.. That’s what their own document says ..
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Re: Sweden has not closed the bars. Shopping malls are open. Schools and companies are open too.
Prepare for the mother of all s**t storms if Sweden pulls this off

APRIL 4, 2020

If Sweden, which has not locked down its economy and society, emerges with a death toll from COVID-19 that is somewhere in the middle of the pack of European countries, there is going to be a lot of recrimination, particularly against those who have tried to silence any discussion about the true extent of the threat that COVID-19 actually poses

In a word: Sweden. What happens if they pull this off? What happens if it turns out that we could have coped with COVID-19 without collapsing entire sectors of the economy putting millions on the dole, and imposing some of the most draconian restrictions on civil liberties in living memory?

[link to johnbwellsnews.com (secure)]
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Swedes are dumb.

They let tons of illegal migrants into their country. Their women get raped non-stop, their kids get stabbed, what do they do? They say its cultural differences and let the perps go.

Dont do anything Sweden does.

They are a suicidal nation.





GLP