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KILLING SMALL BUSINESSES: "Computer issues" at SBA delay small business loans

 
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People who are self employed and are able to work are applying for this. Another form of fraud happening here.
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the gov is having problems send out the 1,200 to individuals and that’s a no brainer

how long is it going to take to process all these applications ?

the gov already has every business payroll info - if they really wanted get this into business hands they could have just sent a check based on payroll

348 billion available to over 30 million small business in usa = approx $10,000 each

a bank sends out couple million to a business with 400 employees who most likely has political or other connections and how many other small business with only a few employees will not get anything? there is only a small amount to spread around
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People who are self employed and are able to work are applying for this. Another form of fraud happening here.
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Able to work, but there s no work asshole, what part of stay home dont you understand?skull_fing
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People who are self employed and are able to work are applying for this. Another form of fraud happening here.
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Able to work, but there s no work asshole, what part of stay home dont you understand?skull_fing
 Quoting: JDwilliams


Ignore the smarty pants ACs who don't know what it means to own a business or be self-employed.
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People who are self employed and are able to work are applying for this. Another form of fraud happening here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77549464


Able to work, but there s no work asshole, what part of stay home dont you understand?skull_fing
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there are people out there trying to get free money while still working.
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Talk to Ivanka... she's got it all under control... you know, from her experience as a model

good to know when shit hits the fan trump puts Jared and ivanka in charge f solving it for him
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Always blame shortcomings on the IT department...Such a tired lame excuse from Shitty Bureaucrats who never have it together!
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People who are self employed and are able to work are applying for this. Another form of fraud happening here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77549464


Able to work, but there s no work asshole, what part of stay home dont you understand?skull_fing
 Quoting: JDwilliams



there are people out there trying to get free money while still working.
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And this is your biggest concern in all this?
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The official response to corona is like using a sledgehammer to kill a fly on a China pot. Obviously the sledgehammer cannot kill the fly but it will smash the China pot.

To shut down an economy and a nation because of a contagion where over 90% who get infected show mild symptoms and most develop an immunity, is an overkill.

So why overkill and what is gained? What is gained can be gauged by one example. When a thriving business with a bright future is forced to shut down by government decree then it goes belly up for no action of its own.

The bank takes possession of this business and sells it at pennies on the dollar to those who now buy this business when they could not get it any other way.
Multiplying this example across the nation translates to trillions of dollars being transferred to that 1%
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People who are self employed and are able to work are applying for this. Another form of fraud happening here.
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I don't think that it will be that easy to do, but a few may slip through the cranks. It has to be a legitimate business operations. Loans are based on previous tax fillings and other criteria. I worked for the SBA disaster relief department, all application are extensively scrutinized and many loans are reject for various reasons. If for any reason someone is found trying to defraud the government there are penalties, such as fines and imprisonment.


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not only that all the banks are closed.

fucking savages
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People who are self employed and are able to work are applying for this. Another form of fraud happening here.
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Able to work, but there s no work asshole, what part of stay home dont you understand?skull_fing
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there are people out there trying to get free money while still working.
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Negative.

These SBA loans are specifically tied to keeping your workers paid (e.g. payroll) on a basis/term in which they were previously being paid.

I've been applying for these loans so my business can stay afloat and keep all my guys on payroll.

These "loans" are not being approved. Horse-shit is what it is.
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don't worry my friend. Ching-li, Satya, and GoogooGajuManji are on it as we speak! patching the systems and running the antivirus.
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The official response to corona is like using a sledgehammer to kill a fly on a China pot. Obviously the sledgehammer cannot kill the fly but it will smash the China pot.

To shut down an economy and a nation because of a contagion where over 90% who get infected show mild symptoms and most develop an immunity, is an overkill.

So why overkill and what is gained? What is gained can be gauged by one example. When a thriving business with a bright future is forced to shut down by government decree then it goes belly up for no action of its own.

The bank takes possession of this business and sells it at pennies on the dollar to those who now buy this business when they could not get it any other way.
Multiplying this example across the nation translates to trillions of dollars being transferred to that 1%
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They are pushing us into a revolution



Fine with me
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Only banks and illegals will get money
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Every bank in this nation keeps tabs of far more loan and deposit accounts than the SBA does. The SBA has been given TENS OF MILLIONS to upgrade their computer systems more than once. Yet, when there is a crisis, and they have been given Trillions of Dollars by Congress - the incompetent bastards cannot manage to process loan and grant applications and get the cash into the hands of the very taxpayers who've paid their salaries for decades.

The SBA is, no surprise here, run by two Trump Appointees who have no background in the financial industry and who obviously do not know what the fuck they're doing - par usual for a Trump Appointee.
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Xi Jinping? Why is the Oriental Dictator still alive?
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A little bit of a delay isn't going to KILL small businesses. Stop being so fucking dramatic like the media.
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A little bit of a delay isn't going to KILL small businesses. Stop being so fucking dramatic like the media.
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How many employees do you have in the business you own?
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People who are self employed and are able to work are applying for this. Another form of fraud happening here.
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Able to work, but there s no work asshole, what part of stay home dont you understand?skull_fing
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this
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Storm the Game over usa Government
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People who are self employed and are able to work are applying for this. Another form of fraud happening here.
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eat shit ass wipe
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Only banks and illegals will get money
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Then the streets will be full, if you know what I mean
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A little bit of a delay isn't going to KILL small businesses. Stop being so fucking dramatic like the media.
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How many employees do you have in the business you own?
 Quoting: Renaissance Woman


You noticed he didn't answer, lol
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hey give the bankers a break, they only have 6 trillion of our money. They aren't made of money you know.


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This is why when we "give" business etc "our" money for them to "give" back to "us". It should be done only with preeminent conditions on their behaviors.

Like "sure we will bail you out Boeing but you are going to have to honor overtime laws, bump up employee sick leave, cap executive salaries, and lower employer paid portions of benefits for X years. Failure to do so will result in criminal prosecution of your board members at any time these are failed to be upheld...

and so on and so on...

It is not "quite" the same with these SBA loans but in similar ilk it should be done.

Basically WE THE PEOPLE had the bankers by the balls in 08 but we were too scared to realize it.

Shoulda put it to them then.

I keep praying for all the small business owners and families out there. I am hoping they are learning to do more with less and find some moments of peace in all of this. IF we can get through this, my hope is that it was of some reason... that reason being we are made stronger and wiser because of it.

Time will tell.
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Yeah





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