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hollyavila
User ID: 77491669 United States 04/09/2020 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's all imaginary ones and zeroes, they could just reset the market to what it was before the virus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78553807 Looks something like that. I think they are going to change over to an all digital currency system, and the old system has to crash first. Future stimulus money will be connected to the coming mark of the beast system. The only thing worth spending money on right now is good farm land and the ability to grow food. If I could get to a third world country away from 5 G, up in some mountains, where there is clean air and water to wait out the anti christ system, that is what I would do. The only good money can do for you right now is to help to set you up to not need money. |
Lady Jayne Smith
Forum Administrator 04/09/2020 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the same minute the numbers came out Quoting: Limpan [link to tradingeconomics.com (secure)] Fed came out with a 2.3 trillions pumped in to the markets... OMFG TWILIGHT ZONE IT IS 2.4 trillion$$$$ in loans. When something is borrowed, those you borrow from now own a big part of your stuff. The government is the most ruthless creditor. In short, the markets are pumping on hopium. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Lady Jayne Smith
Forum Administrator 04/09/2020 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The markets are going up because trades are factoring in INFLATION forecasts into their price projections. It's not real money or value being created, instead the market right now is a hedge against inflation. The theory is that a rising tide (inflation) rises all ships. Big companies that are "too big to fail" are a safe place to store money at this time. If you take your money out of the market or "out of play" then you are actually losing value once inflation sets in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78360109 If inflation were a big risk, it would be reflected in the bond markets. Yields would be surging, prices falling. We are in greater risk of implosion right now. Yes, the price of some food, I expect will inflate, but the overall economies are at current risk of deflation. NOW -- post deflation, is when, historically speaking, mega inflation does kick in. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Legna Angel
User ID: 32731784 United States 04/09/2020 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The markets are going up because trades are factoring in INFLATION forecasts into their price projections. It's not real money or value being created, instead the market right now is a hedge against inflation. The theory is that a rising tide (inflation) rises all ships. Big companies that are "too big to fail" are a safe place to store money at this time. If you take your money out of the market or "out of play" then you are actually losing value once inflation sets in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78360109 If inflation were a big risk, it would be reflected in the bond markets. Yields would be surging, prices falling. We are in greater risk of implosion right now. Yes, the price of some food, I expect will inflate, but the overall economies are at current risk of deflation. NOW -- post deflation, is when, historically speaking, mega inflation does kick in. Thanks for talking about the inflation and deflation. I am still drawing up a timeline in my head on this. Much apprecaited. My two cents, It’s been Real, it’s been Nice, but I can’t say it’s been Real Nice! :anon: Thread: Found another countdown site. #MyOpinion2024 Vote #Trump2020 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78216344 United States 04/09/2020 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once you understand how money is created this all makes perfect sense. Money is created as debt. They can print money or add digits to a screen ONLY if they have willing BORROWERS. Well, they have now created PLENTY of borrowers. The debt based ponzi collapses without perpetual debt (money) being created. |
Legna Angel
User ID: 32731784 United States 04/09/2020 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The markets are going up because trades are factoring in INFLATION forecasts into their price projections. It's not real money or value being created, instead the market right now is a hedge against inflation. The theory is that a rising tide (inflation) rises all ships. Big companies that are "too big to fail" are a safe place to store money at this time. If you take your money out of the market or "out of play" then you are actually losing value once inflation sets in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78360109 If inflation were a big risk, it would be reflected in the bond markets. Yields would be surging, prices falling. We are in greater risk of implosion right now. Yes, the price of some food, I expect will inflate, but the overall economies are at current risk of deflation. NOW -- post deflation, is when, historically speaking, mega inflation does kick in. Thanks for talking about the inflation and deflation. I am still drawing up a timeline in my head on this. Much apprecaited. I suggest to anyone having facebook, goto Market and join every Sales group you can and get approved right now. People be selling things left and right til they get their checks. Then a few weeks after, unless they do something, it’ll start all over again. My two cents. My two cents, It’s been Real, it’s been Nice, but I can’t say it’s been Real Nice! :anon: Thread: Found another countdown site. #MyOpinion2024 Vote #Trump2020 |
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Legna Angel
User ID: 32731784 United States 04/09/2020 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel like I being bought off, I could get 11,200 maybe. This is insane. My two cents, It’s been Real, it’s been Nice, but I can’t say it’s been Real Nice! :anon: Thread: Found another countdown site. #MyOpinion2024 Vote #Trump2020 |
Limpan
(OP) User ID: 76068685 Sweden 04/09/2020 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just needed to know if someone thinks like me, or is all on GLP, yaaa lets ride the wave bitches....Dow Jones to the moon....I hope someone here is smart enough to see what is going on? We are in the deepest recession/depression danger in history. EVERYTHING IS ON HOLD.... Quoting: Limpan Did you just read. EVERYTHING IS ON HOLD. The markets was working fine and we had a drop of 35% in the markets worldwide. THEN THIS HAPPENS [link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)] Almost 100 000 deaths. And this is only the beginning. [link to www.vox.com (secure)] The US Department of Labor registered more than 6.6 million initial unemployment insurance claims for the week ending March 28, according to data newly reported on Thursday morning. [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] More than half a billion more people could be pushed into poverty unless urgent action is taken to bail out poor countries affected by the economic fallout from the Covid-19 pandemic, Oxfam has warned. [link to www.thestar.com.my (secure)] BEIJING/NEW YORK: Global cases of the new coronavirus have shot past 1 million with more than 53,000 fatalities, a Reuters tally showed on Friday, as death tolls soared in the United States and western Europe while the world economy nosedived. I can put so many links from all over the world. The economy is tanking and will not recover for a long time, PERIOD. But still the markets going up. [link to www.investing.com (secure)] And this is all over the world, can you not see how totally nuts this is? it almost drives me crazy, but I just needed to get this out, to see if I am alone to see the truth about the none working markets!! SO THIS IS THE FACTS. CENTRAL BANKS ARE BYING EVRYTHING.... And I can't stop thinking about what the end game is???? [link to www.ccn.com (secure)] The Fed is pulling out all the stops to crush interest rates and support the stock market, but are they really as dovish as they seem? I JUST NEEDED TO SEE IF SOMEONE ELSE IS WORRIED ABOUT THE END GAME IS FROM THE ELITE? THIS IS SO STRANGE, THE TWILIGHT ZONE AND IT IS ALMOST DRIVING ME NUTS..... Anyway i got it out of me and i and now letting this go, it will be what it will be. Happy easter all GLP friends My day trading friends thatis very successful says China and Chinese companies is buying up everything they can...then let's market for down a day or two and then buys more. That is why we are seeing markets fmgo up so much in a day and then for down again. My friend that is known daytrader in Sweden said if this continues China will own most of the big companies world wide Hmmmm intersting twist, have to look in to that.... |
Limpan
(OP) User ID: 76068685 Sweden 04/09/2020 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the same minute the numbers came out Quoting: Limpan [link to tradingeconomics.com (secure)] Fed came out with a 2.3 trillions pumped in to the markets... OMFG TWILIGHT ZONE IT IS 2.4 trillion$$$$ in loans. When something is borrowed, those you borrow from now own a big part of your stuff. The government is the most ruthless creditor. In short, the markets are pumping on hopium. Hopium, nice word that describes it a lot |
Limpan
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77752052 United States 04/09/2020 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I JUST NEEDED TO SEE IF SOMEONE ELSE IS WORRIED ABOUT THE END GAME IS FROM THE ELITE? THIS IS SO STRANGE, THE TWILIGHT ZONE AND IT IS ALMOST DRIVING ME NUTS..... Quoting: Limpan Anyway i got it out of me and i and now letting this go, it will be what it will be. Happy easter all GLP friends Truth is simple. The currency in your wallet is not an asset, it's DEBT. It is just an IOU printed by your friendly central bank. Now, ALL monetary systems (fiat or asset based) have an expiration date. They last roughly 100 years before they collapse under their own weight and they're designed to allow for growth given there's willingness to hold debt. In the current fiat system the "healthy balance" central banks have to achieve is that they can't stop generating debt because the economy goes into recession but they can't print too much because it goes into Venezuela or Zimbabwe mode; now, it works only if SOMEBODY or SOMETHING buys that debt. It's like a balloon that you can't stop inflating until it pops. There's a point where you can't print debt straight up, so you come up with tricks to hide the debt and multiply it, such as derivatives and other games they play. Clear, right? You stop inflating the balloon, your economy hurts, so you have to keep going about 100 years until it pops. Now the red pill (you're welcome). As all GLPers know, all central banks but two are privately owned by the Rothchild family (fun fact, there were three and Lybia was one of them. Did you know what was the FIRST official act of the new government as soon as they killed Gaddafi? Yep. The very first official act of the new government within 3 hours of being inaugurated was to hand over the Lybian central bank to the Rothchild family) and they, under the current fiat system, "print money". The way they do it is by guaranteeing/loaning ALL the money a government uses. How do they do that? They control every aspect of the government by making sure that they provide the money the politicians need in order to fulfill campaign promises. "THEY" are the engine behind your country and your government as a system today, not your politicians neither you, the voter. Did you know that the Federal Reserve employs 95% of ALL the American economists who have written peer reviewed research papers? Everyone who has a valid voice is in their payroll. Anyhow, monetary systems don't have a color neither a political affiliation neither a nationality! They DON'T NEED a political affiliation because they own the system. The Rothchild system of banks, politicians and governments has been around for several rounds. About 100 years ago when the gold backed currency system was dying, they replaced it with the fiat system. You may not know because SO many things just "happened" when they needed to change the system. Started with the bolsheviks, WWI, Spanish flu, then the Weimar Republic, which ushered the Treaty of Versailles (true birth of the fiat global system in my opinion) and from there to the Nazis, the Spanish civil war, WWII and here we are. I suspect that people don't like change, and "they" will never accept the responsibility or tell the truth, so they lie, cause wars and epidemics and just club you as a baby seal until you're ready to accept the new monetary system. Another fun fact!!! Did you know that when "they" created the Federal Reserve last days of 1913, it was created supposedly to GET RID OF THE ROTHCHILDS? They sold the Federal Reserve (per se the new fiat system which made government and politicians their slaves) as a way to get rid of the Cabal or the Deep State, as we would call it today. Let's see, they had approached Woodrow Wilson when he was Dean and "made" him president. They also owned the newspapers and the Congress. How else can they pull off the type of things they do? BTW, they always own both sides of all wars and all political parties and the press and they always lie. If you're American, Trump is not going to save you. Trump, Q and the other guys are all placed by them and work for them. Fox and CNN are the same to their effects. All successful Democrats and Republicans are owned by the same Masters and have been since the early 1800s (with the exception of maybe Andrew Jackson). Ron Paul might be the only free successful politician in my lifetime. So, they're changing to an asset based monetary system because the fiat system is dead and about to pop. They will kill millions upon millions of people and make us beg for a solution. When we are on the verge of death, they will suddenly "come up" with the brilliant idea of an asset based monetary system and everything will be good for another 100 years until they switch to a version of the fiat system again. I can explain the mechanics and more but it would take more time than I want to spend now. Reset is the keyword. "They" will use this reset to consolidate their own wealth and power. You will personally benefit if you can see what they're doing. They moved the leadership of the monetary system from UK to USA and now from USA to China. They have no morals, no loyalty to anything or anybody, and they're very much in control. Everyone is on the same page including Trump and every president and political power today and we're pretty much fucked. Our kids and grandkids will prosper though, it will be just like the 1950s all over again but it will happen in 10 to 20 years. Position yourself to benefit from the coming reset. It will make all the difference in the world. |
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Rorschach Watchmen
User ID: 77105561 United States 04/09/2020 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I said to my wife that it fees like we have been tossed up in the air and are floating until gravity pulls us into terminal velocity. How hard are we going to fall? “When you’re dead you’re dead, but you’re not quite so dead if you contribute something” -John Dunsworth |
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FeedYourHead
User ID: 77416429 United States 04/09/2020 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Relax op..it's ALL just Monopoly money and a Monopoly Game. All of us live either at Baltic or Mediterranean Avenue and we will never live anywhere else.... Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74940678 United States 04/09/2020 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Real question here is how long do we have before shit goes mad max??? I think by midsummer shit will crack off, maybe earlier. I say this based on the elites love of filth and disease. To maximize disease, we must have many corpses laying around in the heat of summer. |
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England User ID: 78717014 United Kingdom 04/09/2020 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The economic ramifications GLOBALLY are too terrible to contemplate...I hate to say it but I think if things don’t return to “normal” soon there will be no way back. This means a “hard reset” which would mean a LOT of pissed off people plus a lot of clueless people with nothing equals another world war and probably not to the benefit of anyone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78721140 In the 1700s monarchy was basically replaced with capitalism, then socialism came along in the 1800s. What if both capitalism and socialism. Lapse and we are talking a once-or-twice-a-millennium-style change to a new equilibrium that nobody right now can even predict? Something that might take 40 or 50 extremely bloody, unpleasant years to hammer out? Thank you Japan i read you. Please just make sure you lot keep turning out the GTRs, greetings from Englandistan. |
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User ID: 57553864 United States 04/09/2020 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: FREE MARKETS ARE DEAD: Fed To Start Buying Junk Bonds, High Yield ETFs PLATA BITCHEZZZZZZ UPGRADE UNAVAILABLE The Rolling Stones said it best... "What's confusing you is the nature of my game" |
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