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User ID: 78783619 Hungary 04/12/2020 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut That isn't comet atlas. It's also completely out of focus which is why it looks so large. What is it then? That's why I came here to ask the question. The video below includes Venus for reference. A freaking normal star probably, that this dipshit is zooming in on. In the form of an octagon... mkay, right :) |
Hydra
User ID: 78782703 Germany 04/12/2020 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dogma: 78783998 What is it then? That's why I came here to ask the question. The video below includes Venus for reference. A freaking normal star probably, that this dipshit is zooming in on. In the form of an octagon... mkay, right :) Yep, right - because the collimator leaves form an octagon. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 04/12/2020 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dogma: 78783998 What is it then? That's why I came here to ask the question. The video below includes Venus for reference. A freaking normal star probably, that this dipshit is zooming in on. In the form of an octagon... mkay, right :) Ah, so this most be a real space donut. |
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User ID: 78782703 Germany 04/12/2020 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ask the manufacturer of the camera why he chose to design the collimator leaves this way. How would you know it was designed that way? Do you know what camera was used? Basic optics 101 - You should take a lesson, would prevent you from making a fool of yourself. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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User ID: 78783619 Hungary 04/12/2020 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ask the manufacturer of the camera why he chose to design the collimator leaves this way. How would you know it was designed that way? Do you know what camera was used? Basic optics 101 - You should take a lesson, would prevent you from making a fool of yourself. . Really? Basic optics 101? Please show me a basic optics study that mentions collimators! Here are a few basic optics articles. No mention of collimators. [link to www.edmundoptics.com (secure)] [link to www.vision-systems.com (secure)] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] Anyway, after doing some research, i learned that collimators are devices used to align (collimate) mirrors of a telescope. The other use is in radiology. None of this is basic optics :) The only mention I found of multiple leaves is for multileaf collimators, which are used in radiotherapy, [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] So, please explain why you are using a term used in astronomy and radiology in correlation with cameras? Using technical words makes one look smart, but using them in a context where they shouldn’t be used makes people wonder how smart the user of these words really is ;) |
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Senior Forum Moderator 04/12/2020 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok It looks like the shape of the mirror in the telescope which took that picture, which is why it's shaped like a donut. On consumer cameras it's very common to have an iris or an aperture shaped like a hexagon or some other polygon, and that shape will be reflected in the out-of-focus point light source, whether that's a bright star or a planet. |
Hydra
User ID: 78782703 Germany 04/12/2020 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hydra Ask the manufacturer of the camera why he chose to design the collimator leaves this way. How would you know it was designed that way? Do you know what camera was used? Basic optics 101 - You should take a lesson, would prevent you from making a fool of yourself. Really? Basic optics 101? Please show me a basic optics study that mentions collimators! Here are a few basic optics articles. No mention of collimators. [link to www.edmundoptics.com (secure)] [link to www.vision-systems.com (secure)] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] Anyway, after doing some research, i learned that collimators are devices used to align (collimate) mirrors of a telescope. The other use is in radiology. None of this is basic optics :) The only mention I found of multiple leaves is for multileaf collimators, which are used in radiotherapy, [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] So, please explain why you are using a term used in astronomy and radiology in correlation with cameras? Using technical words makes one look smart, but using them in a context where they shouldn’t be used makes people wonder how smart the user of these words really is ;) Nice work. Apparently it's a translation error - I referred to these things: [link to cdn.pixabay.com (secure)] (Apparently Google image search is blocked here - thus only on example) Yep, and that's basic optics 101 - You should still take a lesson. And it still would prevent you from making a fool of yourself. . Last Edited by Hydra on 04/12/2020 07:12 PM :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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User ID: 78788047 Hungary 04/13/2020 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok How would you know it was designed that way? Do you know what camera was used? Basic optics 101 - You should take a lesson, would prevent you from making a fool of yourself. Really? Basic optics 101? Please show me a basic optics study that mentions collimators! Here are a few basic optics articles. No mention of collimators. [link to www.edmundoptics.com (secure)] [link to www.vision-systems.com (secure)] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] Anyway, after doing some research, i learned that collimators are devices used to align (collimate) mirrors of a telescope. The other use is in radiology. None of this is basic optics :) The only mention I found of multiple leaves is for multileaf collimators, which are used in radiotherapy, [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] So, please explain why you are using a term used in astronomy and radiology in correlation with cameras? Using technical words makes one look smart, but using them in a context where they shouldn’t be used makes people wonder how smart the user of these words really is ;) Nice work. Apparently it's a translation error - I referred to these things: [link to cdn.pixabay.com (secure)] (Apparently Google image search is blocked here - thus only on example) Yep, and that's basic optics 101 - You should still take a lesson. And it still would prevent you from making a fool of yourself. . Okay, so you meant shutter...... what is the Russian word for that? Amyway, this is still not basic optics 101, it’s basic photography 101 :) I am no photographer, so not knowing these details sure doesn’t make me look like a fool. On the other hand, the fact that you seem a photography expert and yet you seem to confuse a shutter with a collidator might make you look like a fool ;) Last Edited by VagyokAkiVagyok on 04/13/2020 03:03 AM |
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User ID: 78788047 Hungary 04/13/2020 03:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok It looks like the shape of the mirror in the telescope which took that picture, which is why it's shaped like a donut. On consumer cameras it's very common to have an iris or an aperture shaped like a hexagon or some other polygon, and that shape will be reflected in the out-of-focus point light source, whether that's a bright star or a planet. Thank you! So why didn’t you just write it’s a bad bokeh (two words :) j in your first comment, instead of acting arrogant? Would have saved us both lots of time and would have made you look like a real expert :) [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] You know, when people try to look smarter than they actually are, they will often use sarcasm, ridicule and they would be arrogant. |
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User ID: 78788047 Hungary 04/13/2020 03:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyhows, back to the original question of the thread: Why are all the biggest observatories shut down? Last Edited by VagyokAkiVagyok on 04/13/2020 03:17 AM |
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User ID: 78786846 Germany 04/13/2020 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice work. Quoting: Hydra Apparently it's a translation error - I referred to these things: [link to cdn.pixabay.com (secure)] (Apparently Google image search is blocked here - thus only on example) Yep, and that's basic optics 101 - You should still take a lesson. And it still would prevent you from making a fool of yourself. Okay, so you meant shutter...... what is the Russian word for that? Amyway, this is still not basic optics 101, it’s basic photography 101 :) I am no photographer, so not knowing these details sure doesn’t make me look like a fool. On the other hand, the fact that you seem a photography expert and yet you seem to confuse a shutter with a collidator might make you look like a fool ;) No, I didn't confuse a shutter with something else. And that a dictionary gave me a wrong translation doesn't make me a fool. You on the other hand, thinking that the out of focus blob of a street lantern (or so), shaped into an elongated octagon by the (optical) diaphragm of a cheap camera, is an "huge spaceship" ...... And no again, I didn't mean "shutter", I meant "(optical) diaphragm" [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] The shutter is the device that controls the time of the exposure, the diaphragm controls the amount of light entering the film/sensor - and accounts for the shape of out of focus light sources. For the sake of completeness: There are some lenses where an iris diaphragm is also used as shutter (central or leaf shutter), usually on high end cameras like Hasselblad - the example I gave you is definitely not one of them. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78065692 United States 04/13/2020 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Apocalypse is coming, all the prophesied warning signs are clearly happening across the planet all at once. Now there's a reason for the elites to go into there UNDERGROUND MINICITIES without any average person knowing they've gone there. And there's been rumors coming from the astronomy acedemia community the past couple months that earth is going to be in the middle of a massive asteroids debris field filled with millions of asteroids ranging in size from buses to the state of rhode Island. Then there's TRUMP'S executive orders the past two months concerning the U.S. SPACE FORCE COMMAND having to deal with oncoming ASTEROID threats. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77963143 Then there's NASA hinting around conjectures the past month that there might be a significant sized black hole at the outer edge of the solar system. And subsequently that this is the cause of all these ASTEROIDS DEBRIS FIELDS being thrown into chaotic orbits now through the inner solar system. AND that jupiter had a collision with a wandering moon half the size of earth a few years ago and the debris from that collision is also floating around the inner solar system. Bottom line, EARTH is in for a shit storm far worse than the movie ARMAGEDDON. The elites set up the coronavirus outbreak so they could have a reason to go to there UNDERGROUND MINICITIES, but secretly they know ASTEROIDS by the millions are headed for earth. Spread the word. THIS^^^^^ |
Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 04/13/2020 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like the shape of the mirror in the telescope which took that picture, which is why it's shaped like a donut. On consumer cameras it's very common to have an iris or an aperture shaped like a hexagon or some other polygon, and that shape will be reflected in the out-of-focus point light source, whether that's a bright star or a planet. Thank you! So why didn’t you just write it’s a bad bokeh (two words :) j in your first comment, instead of acting arrogant? I was demonstrating my point. Why do you constantly whine and bitch about every post that proves you wrong? You know, when people try to look smarter than they actually are, they will often use sarcasm, ridicule and they would be arrogant. Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok Looks to me like a pathetic attempt on your part to try to undermine my credibility when you were the one who was ignorant of this until I told you what it was. Besides, you would never ever use sarcasm, right? You're guilty of the thing you're bitching about. Fucking whiner. Last Edited by Astromut on 04/13/2020 11:17 AM |
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User ID: 78788047 Hungary 04/13/2020 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice work. Quoting: Hydra Apparently it's a translation error - I referred to these things: [link to cdn.pixabay.com (secure)] (Apparently Google image search is blocked here - thus only on example) Yep, and that's basic optics 101 - You should still take a lesson. And it still would prevent you from making a fool of yourself. Okay, so you meant shutter...... what is the Russian word for that? Amyway, this is still not basic optics 101, it’s basic photography 101 :) I am no photographer, so not knowing these details sure doesn’t make me look like a fool. On the other hand, the fact that you seem a photography expert and yet you seem to confuse a shutter with a collidator might make you look like a fool ;) No, I didn't confuse a shutter with something else. And that a dictionary gave me a wrong translation doesn't make me a fool. You on the other hand, thinking that the out of focus blob of a street lantern (or so), shaped into an elongated octagon by the (optical) diaphragm of a cheap camera, is an "huge spaceship" ...... And no again, I didn't mean "shutter", I meant "(optical) diaphragm" [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] The shutter is the device that controls the time of the exposure, the diaphragm controls the amount of light entering the film/sensor - and accounts for the shape of out of focus light sources. For the sake of completeness: There are some lenses where an iris diaphragm is also used as shutter (central or leaf shutter), usually on high end cameras like Hasselblad - the example I gave you is definitely not one of them. . Russian for collimator is "kollimator" (can't post cyrillic letters) Russian for diaphragm is "diafragma" No idea how those two can be confused by a dictionary, but okay :) Anyhow, na zdorov'ye! |
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User ID: 78788047 Hungary 04/13/2020 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like the shape of the mirror in the telescope which took that picture, which is why it's shaped like a donut. On consumer cameras it's very common to have an iris or an aperture shaped like a hexagon or some other polygon, and that shape will be reflected in the out-of-focus point light source, whether that's a bright star or a planet. Thank you! So why didn’t you just write it’s a bad bokeh (two words :) j in your first comment, instead of acting arrogant? I was demonstrating my point. Why do you constantly whine and bitch about every post that proves you wrong? You know, when people try to look smarter than they actually are, they will often use sarcasm, ridicule and they would be arrogant. Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok Looks to me like a pathetic attempt on your part to try to undermine my credibility when you were the one who was ignorant of this until I told you what it was. Besides, you would never ever use sarcasm, right? You're guilty of the thing you're bitching about. Fucking whiner. Have you ever heard of karma? Insult people, you will get insults back. That simple :) Works for me too, of course LOL I wouldn't have ever replied to any of your comments, if you hadn't gone insulting people. Cheers |
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