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WHY Are ALL the BIGGEST Observatories SHUT DOWN?

 
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Maybe this is the reason, it does not look like a lens flare to me:



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Maybe this is the reason, it does not look like a lens flare to me:



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That is very clearly a lens flare. Where is her astrometry of this "asteroid field" coming at earth? Oh right, it doesn't exist, she's a fucking hoaxing bitch who should be permanently banned from YouTube and then humiliated in front of her friends and family.
"Comments are turned off"
Yeah, that about sums it up, she can't tolerate any dissent and she sure can't afford to exposed for the fucking fraud she is.

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So, it would show up on the images of one spacecraft controlled by Nasa
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

And your point is?
Everybody can tune in to the frequency of ST-A, download the RAW image data and process it himself.
 Quoting: Hydra

yeah, and we know Nasa is always providing us with genuine and accurate data :)
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

I said "tune in to the frequency of ST-A" not to the frequency of NASA.
Or do you claim that NASA has a way to change the charge of the CCD chips of the camera?


BTW, how many days/weeks ahead of Earth is Stereo Ahead in its orbit around the sun?
- are you saying that COR1/2 instruments would capture anything that's not visible from the Earth? Don't think so: [link to secchi.nrl.navy.mil (secure)]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

- are you saying that your link shows the actual position of ST-A?
Oops: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Hydra

Huh? I am saying that my link shows the range for COR2, which is pretty narrow, seeing that it's designed to observe the Sun's corona
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

And you think your link is to scale?
A COR2 image: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov (secure)]
15 solar radii? Oops. I'd say that covers 90+ percent of the second suns on your friends potato cam videos.


(HI is irrelevant to my question, as it monitors the space between Earth and Sun: [link to www.stereo.rl.ac.uk]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

It's not really irrelevant. Since your friends with the potato-cams insist that the second sun (or whatever it is) is next to the sun, it easily could show up in HI1 images.
 Quoting: Hydra

You do realize that "next to the sun" could also be a space opposite of Earth's position, right? Also, you do realize that space exists not only between the Earth and the Sun, right?
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

What part of the highlighted word above don't you understand?


How about because a big observatory would make a way more credible source than me or any "RubeTube idiot with a potato-cam"?
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

I see: The big observatories, owned by NASA, ESA, ..., are shut down to hide something behind the sun, but when they would be in operation, then they would publish their findings about something behind the sun.
Sounds legit.
Btw.: How would the big observatories detect something that is behind the sun? Can you enlighten me there, please?
 Quoting: Hydra

Errm... correct me if I'm wrong, but the Earth revolves around the Sun, doesn't it? So if at perihelion something is behind the sun (as seen from the Earth), than the Earth will be between the Sun and this thing at aphelion.
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

Errm... correct me if I'm wrong, but are we talking about "now" or "now +3600 years" (you can chose the "now +" number according to your own liking)?
Just now your potato cam friends show videos with second suns next to the sun - just now the big observatories are shut down, according to your conspiracy, to hide something.

Thus again: How would the big observatories detect something that is next to or behind the sun?


So if at perihelion something is behind the sun (as seen from the Earth), than the Earth will be between the Sun and this thing at aphelion.

Do you want me to draw that down for you?
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

Yes, that would be nice, since I can imagine a scenario where the sun is between Earth and the "Something" when "this thing" is at aphelion.
Why? You know, the Earth revolves around the Sun, doesn't it.

And please include orbital period and semi major axis of the "Something" in your drawing.

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yeah, and we know Nasa is always providing us with genuine and accurate data :)
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

I said "tune in to the frequency of ST-A" not to the frequency of NASA.
Or do you claim that NASA has a way to change the charge of the CCD chips of the camera?
 Quoting: Hydra


"Daily images are available for Cor2 A and Cor2 B, typically 2 days after they are acquired onboard the spacecraft"
[link to secchi.nrl.navy.mil (secure)]

Huh? I am saying that my link shows the range for COR2, which is pretty narrow, seeing that it's designed to observe the Sun's corona
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

And you think your link is to scale?
A COR2 image: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov (secure)]
15 solar radii? Oops. I'd say that covers 90+ percent of the second suns on your friends potato cam videos.
 Quoting: Hydra


Why, is your link to scale?

From the above link: "The Cor2 detectors each observe a range from 2 to 15 solar radii." So it's maximum 15 solar radii, which is 10.432.620 km. Deduct from that the diameter of the Sun (1.391.016 km), then divide it by two and you get 4.520.802 km visible on each side of the Sun (on x/y axis).

So, in the image you linked, you could see objects that are at maximum 4,5 million km from the Sun (on the x/y axis)

[link to imgur.com (secure)]

Also, Stereo A is currently at 0.967254 AU from the Sun (144.699.140 km). If we do some calculations using the data we have, we will see that the full image from COR2 covers about 4 degrees out of 360.

Calculator here:
[link to rechneronline.de (secure)]

Rough, not to scale drawing for COR2 field-of-view
[link to imgur.com (secure)]

Rough, not to scale drawing of HI2 field-of-view
[link to imgur.com (secure)]

So if at perihelion something is behind the sun (as seen from the Earth), than the Earth will be between the Sun and this thing at aphelion.

Do you want me to draw that down for you?
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

Yes, that would be nice, since I can imagine a scenario where the sun is between Earth and the "Something" when "this thing" is at aphelion.
Why? You know, the Earth revolves around the Sun, doesn't it.

And please include orbital period and semi major axis of the "Something" in your drawing.
 Quoting: Hydra


Here's the nice drawing:
[link to imgur.com (secure)]

Now, this something cannot be seen by terrestrial telescopes, but might be seen in a few months... but the observatories are closed down for the next 3 to 6 months or even longer.
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yeah, and we know Nasa is always providing us with genuine and accurate data :)
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

I said "tune in to the frequency of ST-A" not to the frequency of NASA.
Or do you claim that NASA has a way to change the charge of the CCD chips of the camera?
 Quoting: Hydra

"Daily images are available for Cor2 A and Cor2 B, typically 2 days after they are acquired onboard the spacecraft"
[link to secchi.nrl.navy.mil (secure)]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

What don't you understand in "tune in to the frequency of ST-A" to get the RAW data in real time?
Too stupid or trolling?

Btw.: The image I linked to is a beacon image, they are published in near real time, not with a delay of two days.


Huh? I am saying that my link shows the range for COR2, which is pretty narrow, seeing that it's designed to observe the Sun's corona
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

And you think your link is to scale?
A COR2 image: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov (secure)]
15 solar radii? Oops. I'd say that covers 90+ percent of the second suns on your friends potato cam videos.
 Quoting: Hydra

Why, is your link to scale?
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

To scale to what? Be specific.
Oh, sorry - more stupidity or more trolling?


From the above link: "The Cor2 detectors each observe a range from 2 to 15 solar radii." So it's maximum 15 solar radii, which is 10.432.620 km. Deduct from that the diameter of the Sun (1.391.016 km), then divide it by two and you get 4.520.802 km visible on each side of the Sun (on x/y axis).

So, in the image you linked, you could see objects that are at maximum 4,5 million km from the Sun (on the x/y axis)
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

The white circle in the image is the diameter of the sun.
The white circle fits 15 times into the diameter of the image.
Diameter of the sun = 1,392,684 km
15 times the diameter of the sun = 20,890,260 km
Thus the image shows a space of about 10,45 million km in every direction around the sun (from the centre of the sun) - not 4.5 million km as you "calculated".

Even too stupid to do a simple multiplication.

Yep, and looking at the potato cam videos of your friends, 90+ percent of your friends second suns should show up in ST images.


Rough, not to scale drawing for COR2 field-of-view
[link to imgur.com (secure)]

Rough, not to scale drawing of HI2 field-of-view
[link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

Useless junk, if it's not to scale.


So if at perihelion something is behind the sun (as seen from the Earth), than the Earth will be between the Sun and this thing at aphelion.

Do you want me to draw that down for you?
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

Yes, that would be nice, since I can imagine a scenario where the sun is between Earth and the "Something" when "this thing" is at aphelion.
Why? You know, the Earth revolves around the Sun, doesn't it.

And please include orbital period and semi major axis of the "Something" in your drawing.
 Quoting: Hydra

Here's the nice drawing:
[link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

Yep, thought so; but if you can't even solve a simple multiplication how would you manage it to make a to scale drawing that includes orbital period and semi major axis of an object.


Now, this something cannot be seen by terrestrial telescopes
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

Thank you for admitting that the big observatories are useless for the observation of a "Something" as long as it is next or behind the sun.


but might be seen in a few months... but the observatories are closed down for the next 3 to 6 months or even longer.
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

You have any insights that no one else has?

I'll remind you in three month, if the observatories are opened then. And I will also remind you when your potato cam friends still have the second sun next to the sun (what makes the big observatories still useless) in three to six month or even longer.


Here's the nice drawing: [link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

I'm just wondering, what's the meaning of the above image. Is it just trolling? Or is it the desperate try to hide you stupidity? Looking at you failed calculations, I tend to the latter.

In either case, responding to a troll or a Vollhonk * is wasted time.


* Vollhonk (German): A person, who has to be watered twice a week when her/his IQ drops another one or two points.

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Lol at Hydra the astrophysicist.

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Lol at Hydra the astrophysicist.

cruise

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This guy only ever shows up on astronomy related threads.

(((They))) must have Megaphone alerts for them.

cruise
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Personally I enjoy reading Hydra’s posts.

They are so unbelievable that it makes me smile and I enjoy a bit of mind fuckery from time to time...
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Lol at Hydra the astrophysicist.

cruise

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This guy only ever shows up on astronomy related threads.

(((They))) must have Megaphone alerts for them.

cruise
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Makes you wonder who’s sock account it is, eh?

Hmmm...
 Quoting: Rebellious


Go on, keep pushing it. You REALLY get off on getting banned, don't you?
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Thread below explains why. They are hiding Planet X Wormwood
from view.

Thread: Order out of chaos. The New World Order rises from the shadows. THIS IS WHY YOU ARE LOCKED DOWN!!
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From the above link: "The Cor2 detectors each observe a range from 2 to 15 solar radii." So it's maximum 15 solar radii, which is 10.432.620 km. Deduct from that the diameter of the Sun (1.391.016 km), then divide it by two and you get 4.520.802 km visible on each side of the Sun (on x/y axis).

So, in the image you linked, you could see objects that are at maximum 4,5 million km from the Sun (on the x/y axis)
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

The white circle in the image is the diameter of the sun.
The white circle fits 15 times into the diameter of the image.
Diameter of the sun = 1,392,684 km
15 times the diameter of the sun = 20,890,260 km
Thus the image shows a space of about 10,45 million km in every direction around the sun (from the centre of the sun) - not 4.5 million km as you "calculated".

Even too stupid to do a simple multiplication.

 Quoting: Hydra


No, but seems that you are indeed too stupid to know that 15 solar radii means 15 times the radius of the Sun. You know, radius, as in half the diameter.

[link to www.wordnik.com (secure)]

Besides, you act as an "expert", but still you are making errors that someone who has no idea what they are talking about would make.

I am no expert (never claimed to be) and yet, I debunked this statement of yours after a few hours of research.

.... it would show up in Stereo A COR1/COR2/HI1 images.
 Quoting: Hydra


You and you "expert" friends here are also systematically dodging every single question that would prove your "expertise", yet you shamelessly and effortlessly go around calling people idiots and trolls.

You just proved that you are a fraud!

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Lol at Hydra the astrophysicist.

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it just fell into its own trap LMAO
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From the above link: "The Cor2 detectors each observe a range from 2 to 15 solar radii." So it's maximum 15 solar radii, which is 10.432.620 km. Deduct from that the diameter of the Sun (1.391.016 km), then divide it by two and you get 4.520.802 km visible on each side of the Sun (on x/y axis).

So, in the image you linked, you could see objects that are at maximum 4,5 million km from the Sun (on the x/y axis)
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

The white circle in the image is the diameter of the sun.
The white circle fits 15 times into the diameter of the image.
Diameter of the sun = 1,392,684 km
15 times the diameter of the sun = 20,890,260 km
Thus the image shows a space of about 10,45 million km in every direction around the sun (from the centre of the sun) - not 4.5 million km as you "calculated".

Even too stupid to do a simple multiplication.

 Quoting: Hydra

No, but seems that you are indeed too stupid to know that 15 solar radii means 15 times the radius of the Sun. You know, radius, as in half the diameter.

[link to www.wordnik.com (secure)]

Besides, you act as an "expert", but still you are making errors that someone who has no idea what they are talking about would make.

I am no expert (never claimed to be) and yet, I debunked this statement of yours after a few hours of research.
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

Fifteen solar radii in each direction. - Or 15 times the diameter of the sun for the complete COR2 FOV.

Again:
The white circle in the image is the diameter of the sun.
The white circle fits 15 times into the diameter of the image.
Diameter of the sun = 1.39 million km (rounded)
15 times the diameter of the sun = 20.85 million km
Thus the image shows a space of about 10.425 million km in every direction around the sun (from the centre of the sun).

You want it in radii?
The white circle in the image is two times the radius of the sun.
The radius of the sun is 0.695 million km (rounded)
15 x 0.695 million km = 10.425 million km - to each side of the sun.

Far from your 4.5 million km.

:cor2size:

Yep, you really are a Vollhonk *
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From the above link: "The Cor2 detectors each observe a range from 2 to 15 solar radii." So it's maximum 15 solar radii, which is 10.432.620 km. Deduct from that the diameter of the Sun (1.391.016 km), then divide it by two and you get 4.520.802 km visible on each side of the Sun (on x/y axis).

So, in the image you linked, you could see objects that are at maximum 4,5 million km from the Sun (on the x/y axis)
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

The white circle in the image is the diameter of the sun.
The white circle fits 15 times into the diameter of the image.
Diameter of the sun = 1,392,684 km
15 times the diameter of the sun = 20,890,260 km
Thus the image shows a space of about 10,45 million km in every direction around the sun (from the centre of the sun) - not 4.5 million km as you "calculated".

Even too stupid to do a simple multiplication.

 Quoting: Hydra

No, but seems that you are indeed too stupid to know that 15 solar radii means 15 times the radius of the Sun. You know, radius, as in half the diameter.

[link to www.wordnik.com (secure)]

Besides, you act as an "expert", but still you are making errors that someone who has no idea what they are talking about would make.

I am no expert (never claimed to be) and yet, I debunked this statement of yours after a few hours of research.
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

Fifteen solar radii in each direction. - Or 15 times the diameter of the sun for the complete COR2 FOV.
 Quoting: Hydra


On SECCHI’s own website it says range is 15 solar radii. I never acted as or claimed to be an expert and never went around calling people idi0ts, retards and tr0lls.... you and your friend do that all the time.

- Doesn’t change that fact that you mix up radius and diameter...
- Doesn't change the fact that your statement that any object behind the sun would show up in COR1/COR2/HI2 images is false.... objects that are more than about 10,45 million miles away from the center of the Sun (which we all know is a “small” distance in space), DO NOT show up in those images
- Doesn’t change the fact that you keep dodging relevant questions and keep insulting people based on selected parts of their comments (usually non-scientific parts...)
- Doesn’t change that fact that I asked Astro a question and it was you who replied (LOL...)
- Doesn’t change the fact that you and your friend are both narcissist pseudo-scientists who keep bl0cking out people who prove that. Doing that won’t make you any less of a fraud
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Oops, I was logged out, but my comment above still applies...

Have a nice life!
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*Lens flares don’t go behind clouds* the video is genuine! Someone’s trying to sway public opinion and showcasing an ineptitude for using a brain.
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...

The white circle in the image is the diameter of the sun.
The white circle fits 15 times into the diameter of the image.
Diameter of the sun = 1,392,684 km
15 times the diameter of the sun = 20,890,260 km
Thus the image shows a space of about 10,45 million km in every direction around the sun (from the centre of the sun) - not 4.5 million km as you "calculated".

Even too stupid to do a simple multiplication.

 Quoting: Hydra

No, but seems that you are indeed too stupid to know that 15 solar radii means 15 times the radius of the Sun. You know, radius, as in half the diameter.

[link to www.wordnik.com (secure)]

Besides, you act as an "expert", but still you are making errors that someone who has no idea what they are talking about would make.

I am no expert (never claimed to be) and yet, I debunked this statement of yours after a few hours of research.
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok

Fifteen solar radii in each direction. - Or 15 times the diameter of the sun for the complete COR2 FOV.
 Quoting: Hydra

Doesn't change the fact that your statement that any object behind the sun would show up in COR1/COR2/HI2 images is false
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78828365

I said that 90+ percent of your friends second suns, taken by their potato cams, would show up in ST images.


objects that are more than about 10,45 million miles away from the center of the Sun (which we all know is a “small” distance in space), DO NOT show up in those images
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78828365

Thank you for admitting that my numbers (10,45 million miles away from the centre of the Sun) are right and your numbers are wrong.


On SECCHI’s own website it says range is 15 solar radii.
Doesn’t change that fact that you mix up radius and diameter...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78828365

Didn't you just admit, that my number (10,45 million miles away from the centre of the Sun) is right?

Again, dimwit: 15 solar radii to each side - what can be easily seen in the COR2 image below:

:cor2size:

Again for our slow Hungarian:
The white circle in the image is the diameter of the sun.
The white circle fits 15 times into the diameter of the image.
Diameter of the sun = 1.39 million km (rounded)
15 times the diameter of the sun = 20.85 million km
Thus the image shows a space of about 10.425 million km in every direction around the sun (from the centre of the sun).

You want it in radii?
The white circle in the image is two times the radius of the sun.
The radius of the sun is 0.695 million km (rounded)
15 x 0.695 million km = 10.425 million km - to each side of the sun.


Far from your 4.5 million km.


VagyokAkiVagyok: I can count to potato - (with: potato < 15)

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