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(OP) User ID: 78419302 United States 04/11/2020 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember the Frog Boil Theory? The premise is that if a frog is put suddenly into boiling water, it will immediately jump out. But if that frog is put in tepid water which is then brought to a boil slowly, it will not perceive the danger and will eventually be cooked to death. Quoting: Wolf 1776 For us frogs, every few days the heat is increased another notch. Yet, we are still long taxing days from the ominous boiling point. But, before the water boils, a clever chef will likely metaphorically toss in some tasty seasonings along with savory chopped carrots and celery to entice us to stay in a little longer ... just before increasing the heat the last few notches. Most folks bemuse that the boiling water killed the frog. But, the few of us who truly understand, realize that the truth about what killed the frog was its own inability to decide when it had to jump out. We know where this is headed. Our time to jump is nigh! Thanks MissionInvisible. BTW, nice moniker. :wolf_footer_msg: |
SmoothSailing
User ID: 77042548 United States 04/11/2020 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Robert F Kennedy Jr. Exposes Bill Gates’ Vaccine Dictatorship Plan – Cites Gates’ Twisted ‘Messiah Complex’ [link to www.fort-russ.com (secure)] "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear." Marcus Tullius Cicero |
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(OP) User ID: 78419302 United States 04/11/2020 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Until this lockdown, I had not idea the number of yearly flu deaths were 30k+ just in the US. If the number of flu deaths is that high with numerous yearly flu vaccines; and most flu vaccines are only about 30% effective why bother to create a Covid vaccine. Quoting: SmoothSailing I only got the flu vaccine once about 10 years ago, it was the only year I ended up getting the flu. I believe in healthily eating, vitamins and exercise to stay well. I will never take any flu vaccine. They would never conduct a study to see how many people who get the flu vaccine have Covid19, but it would be interesting to see the correlation. This is a crisis that will have the sheep public begging for the latest vaccine. No doubt it will be a vaccine that all must get to be in school, hold a job, etc. Keeping big pharmaceutical corporations well funded. Last Edited by Wolf 1776 on 04/11/2020 10:26 PM :wolf_footer_msg: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78440777 Canada 04/11/2020 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahhh dear wolf - my brain is already at capacity with 42 tabs open - too many questions. Quoting: Bodhi Sita Do you have just one for me? Why aren't the mainstream media and public officials strongly promoting good immune system health, e.g. D3, vitamin C, zinc, turmeric, regular exercise, healthy weight, and good hygiene? Quoting: Wolf 1776 in 2011 I watched the last investigative reporter get laid off and blacklisted. They had uncovered stuff about Monsanto. Quoting: Bodhi Sita They are all owned - all profit based. Pharma is media is food, is education, is economy - No free speech. Even here it is monitored. Nothing that isn't profit based is pushed. The goal is lifetime customers for "health". It breaks my heart. In the 70's a study was done to find out what caused heart disease and why it was the leading killer for Americans. The Gov paid for it - a Senator or Congressman was put in charge of the study. Results were too much meat and dairy. The meat and dairy industry lobbied, threatened, lawyered up and eventually got the report so edited it didn't even say anything anymore. The result was that people were moved to cereal for breakfast - instead of bacon and ham and sausage to a degree. 50 years later - still # 1 killer of Americans. (until this year.) Prime example of how one decision can kill millions exponentially. Keen insight. Thanks for this info. Did you personally know that investigative reporter who was looking into Monsanto? Wolf, interesting that there has been no regular wheat flour on store shelves for three weeks,but organic flour and non-wheat flour is still available. Not buying the explanations offered. What do you think? Hmmm. Theory? |
Wolf 1776
(OP) User ID: 78419302 United States 04/11/2020 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMMUNE SYSTEM OPTIMISATION Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78718204 D3, vitamin C, zinc, turmeric,etc. are cheap as chips. No one makes more than a minimal profit off them. Ditto regular exercise, healthy weight, and good hygiene. The medical system is CLUELESS about nutrition. It's run by big pharma for their own massive profit. It really is that simple. And sick and twisted. VIRUS TREATMENT See above. Plus the idiots in charge are still trying to do the herd immunity thing on the quiet. COVID19 vs INFLUENZA Human beings are addicted to drama. A global pandemic is far more interesting than mostly elderly people dying every year of flu. It's all very sick and twisted. Plus, to continue your analogy, there are always dire crimes that never get the publicity they need to stop them. They're not important enough to TPTB and to the majority. N95 MASKS Establishing herd immunity was the option chosen by TPTB. Until it was obvious that the virus was going to overwhelm the health systems in each country. These systems were not prepped. In the UK because the gvt refused them money in 2016 to enable preps. In other places like the US, prepping would eat into shareholders' profits. It's all very sick and twisted. Again, money of far more important than people's health. GENERAL We will never get back to "normal". A new normal will develop. But life will never be like it was before. Elections? Whatever makes you think they make an iota of difference? ECONOMIC If they have any sense people on furlough won't go back to work - if there are enough jobs to go around, which I doubt. This situation is very convenient as far as introducing Universal Basic Income is concerned. Of course there will be price changes, up and down.Everything will level out in time. Probably sooner rather than later. Hyperinflation is very unlikely on the scale you seem to imagine.They won't let that happen. It can only lead to war. HEALTHCARE Once more, it's all sick and twisted.See above. COVID19 statistics have to be boosted with existing morbidity deaths. High numbers to justify the drama. COVID19 statistics are all over the place. China started it all off with lies, so it shall continue. Why look to MSM to tell the truth? Testing is anathema to establishing herd immunity which is what TPTB want. Note that herd immunity is the cheapest, most murderous way to deal with this pandemic. STRANGENESS Isn't it just more of the same with extra added drama so that the masses call for extreme solutions? There are few restrictions on criminals, restaurants, media briefings etc etc because herd immunity agenda. As ever the big boys win. The Johns Hopkins game was actually a real time planning conference. Heinous. Who knows what else has been going on behind the scenes? This drama has successfully occluded whatever it is just as it was designed to. CHINA How are we going to deal with this country's grossly anti-social and predatory effects on the world, its people and the environment? :wolf_footer_msg: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78516599 United States 04/11/2020 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's about rate of death not about how many are dying overall. While flu seems to be a bigger threat from raw numbers, spread over time it doesn't overwhelm the medical system. Covid has 15k deaths in barely a month. Flu is 30k over the season and that season is several months long at times requires a mid season booster around february with people getting vaccinated in october. So say november to april, which is effective 5-6 months. Please get a clue and don't use stupid analogies. Thanks |
Wolf 1776
(OP) User ID: 78419302 United States 04/11/2020 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Robert F Kennedy Jr. Exposes Bill Gates’ Vaccine Dictatorship Plan – Cites Gates’ Twisted ‘Messiah Complex’ Quoting: SmoothSailing [link to www.fort-russ.com (secure)] Thanks SmoothSailing for this info! :wolf_footer_msg: |
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(OP) User ID: 78419302 United States 04/11/2020 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's about rate of death not about how many are dying overall. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78516599 While flu seems to be a bigger threat from raw numbers, spread over time it doesn't overwhelm the medical system. Covid has 15k deaths in barely a month. Flu is 30k over the season and that season is several months long at times requires a mid season booster around february with people getting vaccinated in october. So say november to april, which is effective 5-6 months. Please get a clue and don't use stupid analogies. Thanks Good point, but Covid-19 patients only overwhelm the medical system in a few hotspot (and mostly very populous) locations. Many hospitals in this country are astoundingly vacant right now ... with medical staff being furloughed. Last Edited by Wolf 1776 on 04/11/2020 10:32 AM :wolf_footer_msg: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78516599 United States 04/11/2020 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's about rate of death not about how many are dying overall. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78516599 While flu seems to be a bigger threat from raw numbers, spread over time it doesn't overwhelm the medical system. Covid has 15k deaths in barely a month. Flu is 30k over the season and that season is several months long at times requires a mid season booster around february with people getting vaccinated in october. So say november to april, which is effective 5-6 months. Please get a clue and don't use stupid analogies. Thanks Good point, but Covid-19 patients only overwhelm the medical system in a few hotspot (and mostly very populous) locations. Many hospitals in this country are astoundingly vacant right ... with medical staff being furloughed. The only reason why the medical system is having decreased utilization is because people don't want to die and get exposed to virus for no reason. The normal ebb and flow of trauma and accidents are gone. less people are out on the streets. That being said divorce and domestic violence are up. When you look at NYC, New Orleans, Detroit, Chicago - you don't want that in your cities. The point is to avoid that not to have it. Italy had empty hospitals right before the surge. This is all about avoiding casatrophe, and we have real life models in various hotspots that show the threat is absolutely real. Is it possible we can do this more efficiently and with less detriment to the economic system, possibly. Los Angeles hospitals have significant decreased utilization also but they have a lot of covid cases. Their new cases seem to have peaked and things are going down, which is great. The whole is point is that having a medical system that is understressed or under utilized is a marker of success not failure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57635079 United States 04/11/2020 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why aren't the mainstream media and public officials strongly promoting good immune system health, e.g. D3, vitamin C, zinc, turmeric, regular exercise, healthy weight, and good hygiene? Quoting: Boes :this2: People need to Keep their minds healthy and their bodies will be protected. Take no pharmaceuticals, especially mind altering ones. This includes ED drugs like viagra. Remain calm, use discernment and never be afraid EVER. There is no death, what seems so is transition. Good luck to you all, THE PRIME TIME SHEW IS ABOUT TO BEGIN. ; ) |
Daniel Higdon
User ID: 69657566 United States 04/11/2020 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As another poster mentioned, big Pharma and industrial type food producers have too much invested to let the government lackeys educate the people about this issue. I believe this lifestyle also keeps people tired and dumbed down so that they don't question the official narrative. I really hope some people will wake up to this as a result of this virus hysteria, but I seriously doubt it. I have loved ones that refuse to do anything to change their lifestyle and are more than happy to pop pills to "take care" of the issues. I have coworkers and friends who say everyone will die so why not enjoy yourself and eat the foods you love. The real secret is that once you wean yourself off the heavily processed foods, then the food that is good for you really tastes delicious. When your body responds to the nutrition that you are providing it, you feel so much better that you never want to go back. Yes we will all die someday, but I want to feel good and be independent as long as I can. |
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Anonymous User ID: 77709397 United States 04/11/2020 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aren't you fucking insulted yet?? Can't you see how we are being treated? Every single detail. Every aspect of our lives. Right down to the clothes we where and what toothpaste we use, ARE BEING CONTROLLED! We are becoming, or should I say have become workers in a concentration camp. Or worse, animals in a ZOO. Thanks God! |
SmoothSailing
User ID: 77042548 United States 04/11/2020 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Robert F Kennedy Jr. Exposes Bill Gates’ Vaccine Dictatorship Plan – Cites Gates’ Twisted ‘Messiah Complex’ Quoting: SmoothSailing [link to www.fort-russ.com (secure)] Thanks SmoothSailing for this info! "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear." Marcus Tullius Cicero |
Wolf 1776
(OP) User ID: 76620885 United States 04/11/2020 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's about rate of death not about how many are dying overall. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78516599 While flu seems to be a bigger threat from raw numbers, spread over time it doesn't overwhelm the medical system. Covid has 15k deaths in barely a month. Flu is 30k over the season and that season is several months long at times requires a mid season booster around february with people getting vaccinated in october. So say november to april, which is effective 5-6 months. Please get a clue and don't use stupid analogies. Thanks Good point, but Covid-19 patients only overwhelm the medical system in a few hotspot (and mostly very populous) locations. Many hospitals in this country are astoundingly vacant right ... with medical staff being furloughed. Quoting: Wolf 1776 The only reason why the medical system is having decreased utilization is because people don't want to die and get exposed to virus for no reason. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78516599 The normal ebb and flow of trauma and accidents are gone. less people are out on the streets. That being said divorce and domestic violence are up. When you look at NYC, New Orleans, Detroit, Chicago - you don't want that in your cities. The point is to avoid that not to have it. Italy had empty hospitals right before the surge. This is all about avoiding casatrophe, and we have real life models in various hotspots that show the threat is absolutely real. Is it possible we can do this more efficiently and with less detriment to the economic system, possibly. Los Angeles hospitals have significant decreased utilization also but they have a lot of covid cases. Their new cases seem to have peaked and things are going down, which is great. The whole is point is that having a medical system that is understressed or under utilized is a marker of success not failure. Okay. :wolf_footer_msg: |
Wolf 1776
(OP) User ID: 76620885 United States 04/11/2020 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why aren't the mainstream media and public officials strongly promoting good immune system health, e.g. D3, vitamin C, zinc, turmeric, regular exercise, healthy weight, and good hygiene? Quoting: Boes People need to Keep their minds healthy and their bodies will be protected. Take no pharmaceuticals, especially mind altering ones. This includes ED drugs like viagra. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57635079 Remain calm, use discernment and never be afraid EVER. There is no death, what seems so is transition. Good luck to you all, THE PRIME TIME SHEW IS ABOUT TO BEGIN. ; ) Good points! Moreover, fear is an unproductive filter from which to view the world. This reactive emotion can precipitate anger, torment, hesitation, anxiety, and stress. And, more importantly with regard to the currently contrived circumstances, it can make us more susceptible to compliance to the dictates of otherwise questionable entities promising to mitigate (over time) the perceived danger. :wolf_footer_msg: |
Wolf 1776
(OP) User ID: 76620885 United States 04/11/2020 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think a lot of people who eat a standard American diet and live a sedentary lifestyle have chronic inflammation. This leads to the chronic illness like diabetes, heart disease, and high blood pressure. Probably also eventually leads to cancer and dementia. When something like this virus comes along, the immune system can't function properly because of this chronic inflammation. Quoting: Daniel Higdon As another poster mentioned, big Pharma and industrial type food producers have too much invested to let the government lackeys educate the people about this issue. I believe this lifestyle also keeps people tired and dumbed down so that they don't question the official narrative. I really hope some people will wake up to this as a result of this virus hysteria, but I seriously doubt it. I have loved ones that refuse to do anything to change their lifestyle and are more than happy to pop pills to "take care" of the issues. I have coworkers and friends who say everyone will die so why not enjoy yourself and eat the foods you love. The real secret is that once you wean yourself off the heavily processed foods, then the food that is good for you really tastes delicious. When your body responds to the nutrition that you are providing it, you feel so much better that you never want to go back. Yes we will all die someday, but I want to feel good and be independent as long as I can. Great points! Thanks. Most of us truly need to enjoy a much more nutritious diet. Last Edited by Wolf 1776 on 04/15/2020 02:09 AM :wolf_footer_msg: |
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