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Even though he is not a doctor or a biologist.
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I think its a pretty fair guess little nerdy bill is about as versed on vaccines as one can get.

You can be an expert without a paper from a school saying so.
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Based on what knowledge you've seen or read about him? How can you make a judgment on his knowledge just because he's spent money?
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Well I propose that this "infection" isn't all they said it was. We have larger numbers of deaths from regular 'ol influenza every year...
Edit to add: Now if the virus somehow is more "activated" by 5G, then that is a whole other ball of wax...
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the problem isnt really with how deadly it is. the problem is with how infectious it is, and the duration of infection. THAT is what will disrupt society.

What most people don't know is the point of a bioweapon is not to kill people. it is to tie up resources. A perfect bioweapon has a long incubation period, high infectivity, and a long duration of infection. this ties up MASSIVE resources and weakens the potential target. It seems to me like this virus is as close to perfect as you can get.

5G is another one of those conspiracy theories that people push because they dont really understand the technical specifications of the technology. I can assure you that 5G isnt the culprit here. If you want to know all the reason why, i can certainly tell you. I have experience in this technology as well.
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Can you provide any links to your prediction this is a bioweapon. Other than chatter? Great idea on perimeter reopening, Unfortunately Americans are too impatient but may eventually have no choice. . .
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no i do not, and there will never be any. Do you remember the two indian doctors that released a paper proving that this virus had an HIV inclusion? they were immediately forced to retract it. not because it was false, but because it was TRUE. there is no natural way that HIV gets into a coronavirus. Also the bats that were the supposed vector for this disease were not sold at the wet market in question, and their natural environment was over 800 miles from wuhan. Bats dont migrate 800 miles.

I built a smart city in Qingdao China so i have some contacts inside the country, in early december, I was writing them asking their opinion on what was going on. apparently the bioweapon narrative was spreading pretty fast in China. The CCP took immediate action to wipe all wuhan research off the web and basically shut down the entire Chinese internet. I can no longer get through to any of my contacts in china, it has been that way since mid december. The CCP knows if the truth gets out about the research they will have a MASSIVE shit storm on their hands in terms of a revolt. CCP has a giant troll army that constantly spreads misinfo. i woudlnt be surprised if the current "the virus is a nothingburger" narrative is being perpetuated by the CCP
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Mr. dull socks, you sound like the real deal. Let me pose a theory to you. The Wuhan virus is a bio-weapon as you say, that leaked out apparently into the community and wreaked whatever havoc. Would this tie in with Bill Gates' activities or is that just a coincidence?

Anyway, we (US) get hold of this info, we don't want to tell everyone there is a bioweapon on the loose so we make up a story about this deadly virus (which is really just a flu virus) to put everyone on lock down while we search for people who actually DO become infected with the bio-weapon as they emerge into the medical system (because of the severity of their symptoms). So in having the virus cover story, we keep people locked down and not spreading the actual bioweapon, while the government can search for those infected with it in a less cluttered medical environment.

Is this is a possibility?

Also, are the symptoms we are being told for this Wuhan bioweapon the same as for the virus or are there other things we are not being told? The inclusion of HIV would make this seem, as you say, to be a long, possibly permanent, infection. Does this spread on a purely respiratory basis?
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From the article:
“WASHINGTON DC – In a stunning turn of events, Surgeon General Jerome Adams explained in an interview on live XM radio, that the Coronavirus Task Force has, effectively, dumped the Bill Gates/CDC/WHO predictive contagion model, and is now working with the real data.

He explained on the Sirius XM’s Breitbart News Daily host Alex Marlow, that given the new data, businesses will begin to re-open as early as May, others in June.

This runs contrary to the out-and-out fear-mongering of Dr. Fauci and Bill Gates who have made a media tour, threatening the public that businesses may not re-open for six months to a year, or until and unless governments purchase their conveniently patented, big-pharma vaccination.

According to Dr. Adams:
Best news ever!!!
“What the American people need to know now is we actually have data, and so we’re tracking that data,”

Before this about-face, which appears to have come as an order from the Trump administration in consultation with the findings of Dr. Adams, the task force was working with’predictive models’, which had been created by the Bill Gates dominated WHO and CDC.”


Could it actually be true?!

flower flower flower
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How many of your Covid-19 predictions have come to pass, Trinity Doomsayer?
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"two more weeks"
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Predicting the future is hard.
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Especially when the states governors are faking all the numbers.
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the problem isnt really with how deadly it is. the problem is with how infectious it is, and the duration of infection. THAT is what will disrupt society.

What most people don't know is the point of a bioweapon is not to kill people. it is to tie up resources. A perfect bioweapon has a long incubation period, high infectivity, and a long duration of infection. this ties up MASSIVE resources and weakens the potential target. It seems to me like this virus is as close to perfect as you can get.

5G is another one of those conspiracy theories that people push because they dont really understand the technical specifications of the technology. I can assure you that 5G isnt the culprit here. If you want to know all the reason why, i can certainly tell you. I have experience in this technology as well.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Can you provide any links to your prediction this is a bioweapon. Other than chatter? Great idea on perimeter reopening, Unfortunately Americans are too impatient but may eventually have no choice. . .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77694920


no i do not, and there will never be any. Do you remember the two indian doctors that released a paper proving that this virus had an HIV inclusion? they were immediately forced to retract it. not because it was false, but because it was TRUE. there is no natural way that HIV gets into a coronavirus. Also the bats that were the supposed vector for this disease were not sold at the wet market in question, and their natural environment was over 800 miles from wuhan. Bats dont migrate 800 miles.

I built a smart city in Qingdao China so i have some contacts inside the country, in early december, I was writing them asking their opinion on what was going on. apparently the bioweapon narrative was spreading pretty fast in China. The CCP took immediate action to wipe all wuhan research off the web and basically shut down the entire Chinese internet. I can no longer get through to any of my contacts in china, it has been that way since mid december. The CCP knows if the truth gets out about the research they will have a MASSIVE shit storm on their hands in terms of a revolt. CCP has a giant troll army that constantly spreads misinfo. i woudlnt be surprised if the current "the virus is a nothingburger" narrative is being perpetuated by the CCP
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Thanks for your response, I do remember the study from India, here Are some links,
[link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]

[link to theprepared.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77694920


I have read all of these article supposedly "debunking" the bioweapon narrative. they are all really sad attempts and show that the people are really ill informed. the author states...

"Nor does the clinical presentation of 2019-nCoV have novel features which need explaining. Its symptom profile, degree of transmissibility, severity, mortality rate, duration, incubation and latent period, ability to jump from animals to humans, and ability to transmit asymptomatically and by skin contact are all within the precedents established by other human coronaviruses"

this is patently false. how do i know this? because of this...

[link to www.news-medical.net (secure)]

In the study that was done they used differnet kinds of corona viruses including SARS. Do you know the ONLY corona virus that was able to infect Tcells? covid19. it certainy ISNT just another coronavirus. And i will tell you again, that based on the research i saw from the wuhan lab, this virus is acting JUST like the virus extracted from the bats in the lab (including the ability to infect prevotella which is a HUGE tell). And we now know that this virus DOES include HIV materials invalidating the article you referenced.
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They have been using Chloroquine for decades on viral pneumonia and coronavirus.

Here is an article from 2003

Chloroquine is a 9-aminoquinoline known since 1934. Apart from its well-known antimalarial effects, the drug has interesting biochemical properties that might be applied against some viral infections. Chloroquine exerts direct antiviral effects, inhibiting pH-dependent steps of the replication of several viruses including members of the flaviviruses, retroviruses, and coronaviruses.

[link to www.thelancet.com (secure)]


Everyone is being scammed on this to pump trillions of dollars to the corporations!

Viral Pneumonia AKA Coronavirus re-labeled is highly contagious and I had it 30 years ago as a kid!

Same symptoms, same remedy, same everything!
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pass the gin and quinine tonic!
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I have read all of these article supposedly "debunking" the bioweapon narrative.
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Is snake venom a bio weapon? I can detail unique aspects of its attack on the human body, just as you can do the same with your beloved 'COVID'. It means nothing. There are things that weaken the body's immune system, and it causes cellular garbage collection in the body to be neglected. This garbage surely is toxic when unmanaged, but a thinking person does not blame the garbage for the illness, they instead look behind the veil and ask WHY is there all this garbage messing everything up.
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They have been using Chloroquine for decades on viral pneumonia and coronavirus.

Here is an article from 2003

Chloroquine is a 9-aminoquinoline known since 1934. Apart from its well-known antimalarial effects, the drug has interesting biochemical properties that might be applied against some viral infections. Chloroquine exerts direct antiviral effects, inhibiting pH-dependent steps of the replication of several viruses including members of the flaviviruses, retroviruses, and coronaviruses.

[link to www.thelancet.com (secure)]


Everyone is being scammed on this to pump trillions of dollars to the corporations!

Viral Pneumonia AKA Coronavirus re-labeled is highly contagious and I had it 30 years ago as a kid!

Same symptoms, same remedy, same everything!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78342846


pass the gin and quinine tonic!
 Quoting: beeches


Quarantinis for EVERYONE!

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This is a pretty big deal..

It's basically like saying you're going to ignore the hurricane forecast map....

damned
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GATES IS A MONSTER ....ARE YOU F'ing KIDDING ME??? THAT DUDE IS THE DEVIL HIMSELF.....
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"They" planned it..."They" implemented it...AND they tried to frighten the world into begging for the "Gates Vaccine".

WHO is "They" - Hang those monsters !!!!!!



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there is no "they". There is probably a lot of "thems" but the "thems" most likely dont work together to make "theys" it is just a scapegoat we use when things dont make sense
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Man, are you ever wrong about that. The global government apparatus is very tight and ALL public "health" (international, national, state and local) is a tentacle of that beast. It is also very much beholden to Bill Gates, who pumps in billions in grants, along with the pharmaceutical industry.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

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– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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The vaccines will cause infertility but the coronavirus will be blamed for it.
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Coronavirus Could Cause Male Infertility
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the problem isnt really with how deadly it is. the problem is with how infectious it is, and the duration of infection. THAT is what will disrupt society.

What most people don't know is the point of a bioweapon is not to kill people. it is to tie up resources. A perfect bioweapon has a long incubation period, high infectivity, and a long duration of infection. this ties up MASSIVE resources and weakens the potential target. It seems to me like this virus is as close to perfect as you can get.

5G is another one of those conspiracy theories that people push because they dont really understand the technical specifications of the technology. I can assure you that 5G isnt the culprit here. If you want to know all the reason why, i can certainly tell you. I have experience in this technology as well.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Can you provide any links to your prediction this is a bioweapon. Other than chatter? Great idea on perimeter reopening, Unfortunately Americans are too impatient but may eventually have no choice. . .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77694920


no i do not, and there will never be any. Do you remember the two indian doctors that released a paper proving that this virus had an HIV inclusion? they were immediately forced to retract it. not because it was false, but because it was TRUE. there is no natural way that HIV gets into a coronavirus. Also the bats that were the supposed vector for this disease were not sold at the wet market in question, and their natural environment was over 800 miles from wuhan. Bats dont migrate 800 miles.

I built a smart city in Qingdao China so i have some contacts inside the country, in early december, I was writing them asking their opinion on what was going on. apparently the bioweapon narrative was spreading pretty fast in China. The CCP took immediate action to wipe all wuhan research off the web and basically shut down the entire Chinese internet. I can no longer get through to any of my contacts in china, it has been that way since mid december. The CCP knows if the truth gets out about the research they will have a MASSIVE shit storm on their hands in terms of a revolt. CCP has a giant troll army that constantly spreads misinfo. i woudlnt be surprised if the current "the virus is a nothingburger" narrative is being perpetuated by the CCP
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Mr. dull socks, you sound like the real deal. Let me pose a theory to you. The Wuhan virus is a bio-weapon as you say, that leaked out apparently into the community and wreaked whatever havoc. Would this tie in with Bill Gates' activities or is that just a coincidence?

Anyway, we (US) get hold of this info, we don't want to tell everyone there is a bioweapon on the loose so we make up a story about this deadly virus (which is really just a flu virus) to put everyone on lock down while we search for people who actually DO become infected with the bio-weapon as they emerge into the medical system (because of the severity of their symptoms). So in having the virus cover story, we keep people locked down and not spreading the actual bioweapon, while the government can search for those infected with it in a less cluttered medical environment.

Is this is a possibility?

Also, are the symptoms we are being told for this Wuhan bioweapon the same as for the virus or are there other things we are not being told? The inclusion of HIV would make this seem, as you say, to be a long, possibly permanent, infection. Does this spread on a purely respiratory basis?
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


>>Would this tie in with Bill Gates' activities or is that just a coincidence?

I think it is just a coincidence

>>So in having the virus cover story, we keep people locked down and not spreading the actual bioweapon, while the government can search for those infected with it in a less cluttered medical environment.

Is this is a possibility?


early on there were rumors that it only affected Asians. Then people in italy/iran started getting infected and that story kinda disappeared. I believe that this rumor is still true to some extent. However fore more reasons than just the ACE2 receptor. another thing that i immediatly started looking for was COVID19 ability to infect the prevotella bacteria. this was something noted in the horseshoe bat experiments from the wuhan lab. they determined that this specific form of coronavirus could infect ACE2 receptors, and additionally the prevotella bacteria. i eventually found my answer...

[link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]

I DOES infect prevotella and this explains part of the reason for a more profound effect in china, italy, and iran.

1. it can Infect ACE2 which asians seem to have more of
2. it can infect prevotella. asians, iranians, and italians ALL have a large amount of prevotella present in their bodies based on a high carb diet.

People in the west eat more fats so we have a lower amount of prevotella present, therefore (my speculation) is that it doesnt affect us quite as severely because it only attacks the respiratory system, and doesnt additionally infect the prevotella causing a more severe form of the virus. i think it is the same disaese as in wuhan we just don't get affected quite as bad. that also explains why the azythromycin seems to work. it kills the prevotella bacteria.

>>Also, are the symptoms we are being told for this Wuhan bioweapon the same as for the virus or are there other things we are not being told? The inclusion of HIV would make this seem, as you say, to be a long, possibly permanent, infection. Does this spread on a purely respiratory basis?

i do think we will eventually find out that this thing is permanent. WE already finding out it attacks the immune system just like HIV...

[link to www.news-medical.net (secure)]

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Who put Bill Gates in charge of the CDC. I don't know how people get "in charge of" the WHO, so i will not comment on that.

Is it just because he is rich?

It is like we are living in a comic series where the original author got fired for continually missing deadlines and the editor randomly hired some hack who knows fuckall about the series to finish it out.
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He bribes everybody. I read a comment I think on Gates Instagram where he was getting flamed the other day, and someone said he gave 25 million to Change.org and they've stopped creating petitions about him. He just buys everybody, like Soros.
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Ohhhh. I don't know why i didn't think of that. Mostly because i know he's not the kumpter jenus he's billed as. If i was rich and bought code off some guy and sold it to my own mother would people think i invented computers, too?
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Out of curiousity, is that the actual Bill Gates story? I know there has always been a lot of controversy over how MS was actually created, but did he just buy the code off someone and sell it Mom? How did that work?
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Here's one that that he did:

Bill Gates has operated above the law since 1990. He destroyed stac electronics, destroyed WordPerfect and wiped out Lotus 1-2-3 by simply stealing their code and putting it straight into his operating systems and office products. I was one of the lucky few to get the VERY FIRST Microsoft dos 6.0 disks on DAY ONE, I installed it immediately and after watching their little "we are so proud of it" disc compression pitch, I typed dblspace at the command prompt AND FOR 1/4 SECOND, IMMEDIATELY AFTER HITTING ENTER IT SAID "STACKER, BY STAC ELECTRONICS". Microsoft immediately recalled the product, and released their patch the same week and the only difference was Stacker's install screen did not show up.

Bill gates was so ridiculously arrogant he did not even make sure the stacker install confirmation was guaranteed to not show up when dblspace was typed. He destroyed companies by stealing their code outright and "let the lawyers sort it out" and he even lost a couple cases but by the time the cases made it through the courts, the target companies were destroyed.


From .siENOTSMIJ (read bacawards)


Gates business MO was theft. Once he marketed and sold the products he stole he was able to pay off the lawsuits for a fraction of the value of the stolen product.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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I have read all of these article supposedly "debunking" the bioweapon narrative.
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Is snake venom a bio weapon? I can detail unique aspects of its attack on the human body, just as you can do the same with your beloved 'COVID'. It means nothing. There are things that weaken the body's immune system, and it causes cellular garbage collection in the body to be neglected. This garbage surely is toxic when unmanaged, but a thinking person does not blame the garbage for the illness, they instead look behind the veil and ask WHY is there all this garbage messing everything up.
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the bioweapon part has nothing to do with how the virus acts. it has to do with how the virus infects. also a VERY VERY interesting clue is how it is affecting different age groups. but explain to me, how does a virus get an HIV inclusion, when HIV only infects humans? a bat cant get HIV, so how do you suspect this mutation happens? the answer. it doesnt. not naturally.
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I’ll believe it when I see it. Gates, with all of his purchased notoriety and alleged “expertise” in the field of philanthropy and this wolf in sheep’s clothing vaccine research has a lot of sway. He can buy anyone he wants and his influence runs deep in the corrupted world of Big Pharma.

I find it very curious that a college dropout who then went on to form a huge corporation that has nothing to do with humanitarianism all of a sudden finds himself at the center of wanting to be the savior of mankind.

The man is a snake and he’s got a whole lot of oil to sell and it would appear that there’s an endless supply of customers just buying it up like the bunch of lemmings they are.
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This is a pretty big deal..

It's basically like saying you're going to ignore the hurricane forecast map....

damned
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The hurricane forecast map is usually b.s. too. Try harder, shill
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From the article:
“WASHINGTON DC – In a stunning turn of events, Surgeon General Jerome Adams explained in an interview on live XM radio, that the Coronavirus Task Force has, effectively, dumped the Bill Gates/CDC/WHO predictive contagion model, and is now working with the real data.

He explained on the Sirius XM’s Breitbart News Daily host Alex Marlow, that given the new data, businesses will begin to re-open as early as May, others in June.

This runs contrary to the out-and-out fear-mongering of Dr. Fauci and Bill Gates who have made a media tour, threatening the public that businesses may not re-open for six months to a year, or until and unless governments purchase their conveniently patented, big-pharma vaccination.

According to Dr. Adams:

“What the American people need to know now is we actually have data, and so we’re tracking that data,”

Before this about-face, which appears to have come as an order from the Trump administration in consultation with the findings of Dr. Adams, the task force was working with’predictive models’, which had been created by the Bill Gates dominated WHO and CDC.”


Could it actually be true?!

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Looks like major government face-saving to me. The government got into bed with WHO, CDC, Gates and the pharmaceutical industry and used flawed models to support vaccines that may not even be realized in the promised 18 months.

Big Pharma would have stood to make hundreds of billions of dollars, if not a trillion or two, from the vaccines. So of course, they would have wanted to control the narrative to drive the entire world to accept excessive restrictions on their daily lives until such time as a vaccine was ready.

For its part, the government knew a pandemic was coming, or a potential risk of one existed, and did nothing, or cut back on pandemic stockpiles for purely political reasons, that is, for the purpose of appearing to be responsible stewards of taxpayer dollars while being wildly profligate elsewhere.
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From the article:
“WASHINGTON DC – In a stunning turn of events, Surgeon General Jerome Adams explained in an interview on live XM radio, that the Coronavirus Task Force has, effectively, dumped the Bill Gates/CDC/WHO predictive contagion model, and is now working with the real data.

He explained on the Sirius XM’s Breitbart News Daily host Alex Marlow, that given the new data, businesses will begin to re-open as early as May, others in June.

This runs contrary to the out-and-out fear-mongering of Dr. Fauci and Bill Gates who have made a media tour, threatening the public that businesses may not re-open for six months to a year, or until and unless governments purchase their conveniently patented, big-pharma vaccination.

According to Dr. Adams:

“What the American people need to know now is we actually have data, and so we’re tracking that data,”

Before this about-face, which appears to have come as an order from the Trump administration in consultation with the findings of Dr. Adams, the task force was working with’predictive models’, which had been created by the Bill Gates dominated WHO and CDC.”


Could it actually be true?!

flower flower flower
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Maybe Adams received enough [DISINFORMATION] to think it would be okay to 'go there'. Perhaps a 64D way to spill the beans on the gates-who-cdc-globalist conspiracy.

Insert leak meme here_____________.

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From the article:
“WASHINGTON DC – In a stunning turn of events, Surgeon General Jerome Adams explained in an interview on live XM radio, that the Coronavirus Task Force has, effectively, dumped the Bill Gates/CDC/WHO predictive contagion model, and is now working with the real data.

He explained on the Sirius XM’s Breitbart News Daily host Alex Marlow, that given the new data, businesses will begin to re-open as early as May, others in June.

This runs contrary to the out-and-out fear-mongering of Dr. Fauci and Bill Gates who have made a media tour, threatening the public that businesses may not re-open for six months to a year, or until and unless governments purchase their conveniently patented, big-pharma vaccination.

According to Dr. Adams:

“What the American people need to know now is we actually have data, and so we’re tracking that data,”

Before this about-face, which appears to have come as an order from the Trump administration in consultation with the findings of Dr. Adams, the task force was working with’predictive models’, which had been created by the Bill Gates dominated WHO and CDC.”


Could it actually be true?!

flower flower flower
 Quoting: StellarBe


Maybe Adams received enough [DISINFORMATION] to think it would be okay to 'go there'. Perhaps a 64D way to spill the beans on the gates-who-cdc-globalist conspiracy.

Insert leak meme here_____________.

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I'd just be concerned that Adams', in conjunction with the still-questionable'Fauci contingent, has some trick up there sleeve to ultimately hurt POTUS.

I have to think about this more. Let's see what unfolds at the presser today.

Hmm.
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Yeah...and about 10% becoming lifelong cardiac patients or this attacking T Cells like HIV....

Thread: The fucking virus not only attacks the ACE2 receptors, but NOW the CD147 T-Cellls as well - ATTACKING THE IMMUNE SYSTEM LIKE HIV! (Page 3)
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Even IF that's true, a lifelong lockdown will turn the world into A Madmax scenario. Starvation, murder, rape, cannibalism, etc. I'll take my chances with cardiac problems.
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As terrible as that sounds, it honestly may not be completely far off from the reality of what a very long lockdown would look like. I don’t think enough emphasis has been placed on the mental toll this is taking on people and what it’s going to result in if there isn’t a big change for the better - or the worse - sooner than later.
In my opinion, the masses would be okay if these lockdowns resulted in a big change, IF and only if it were apparent that there was a true need for such strict protocol to become the norm. Considering the world has come together and taken investigative journalism into its own hands, thus showing that the Covid19 issue was made to look far worse than it truly is - thank you, internet - I don’t think people will accept restrictions this harsh to remain. If governments of the world locked down the world’s populous and put life on literal hold for weeks, only for it to have been an overreaction, I think people will grow angry, yes.
Therefore, governments either need to double down, “never wasting a good tragedy“ and get truly apocalyptic with some false flag; or they need to concede and slowly but surely release restrictions ASAP.

So, do TPTB double down and create real catastrophe or do they relent and try to get back to “normal” before the masses turn on them?
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You are one damn smart cookie!
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He bribes everybody. I read a comment I think on Gates Instagram where he was getting flamed the other day, and someone said he gave 25 million to Change.org and they've stopped creating petitions about him. He just buys everybody, like Soros.
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Ohhhh. I don't know why i didn't think of that. Mostly because i know he's not the kumpter jenus he's billed as. If i was rich and bought code off some guy and sold it to my own mother would people think i invented computers, too?
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Out of curiousity, is that the actual Bill Gates story? I know there has always been a lot of controversy over how MS was actually created, but did he just buy the code off someone and sell it Mom? How did that work?
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Here's one that that he did:

Bill Gates has operated above the law since 1990. He destroyed stac electronics, destroyed WordPerfect and wiped out Lotus 1-2-3 by simply stealing their code and putting it straight into his operating systems and office products. I was one of the lucky few to get the VERY FIRST Microsoft dos 6.0 disks on DAY ONE, I installed it immediately and after watching their little "we are so proud of it" disc compression pitch, I typed dblspace at the command prompt AND FOR 1/4 SECOND, IMMEDIATELY AFTER HITTING ENTER IT SAID "STACKER, BY STAC ELECTRONICS". Microsoft immediately recalled the product, and released their patch the same week and the only difference was Stacker's install screen did not show up.

Bill gates was so ridiculously arrogant he did not even make sure the stacker install confirmation was guaranteed to not show up when dblspace was typed. He destroyed companies by stealing their code outright and "let the lawyers sort it out" and he even lost a couple cases but by the time the cases made it through the courts, the target companies were destroyed.


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Gates business MO was theft. Once he marketed and sold the products he stole he was able to pay off the lawsuits for a fraction of the value of the stolen product.
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Exactly. I remember the demise of Stacker. They were good people.

He killed a vibrant and thriving database software community. I remember one year at Comdex before they moved to the Sands going into the database expo section at the Hilton Convention Center and it was filled with database booths offering all kinds of products. FoxPro (FoxBase) and Clipper were both robust and versatile development environments. And Clarion, too. Using FoxPro, I could quickly search or manipulate data sets of over a million records on an XP computer. What a letdown to try to move that capability over to clunker Microsoft Access after Gates gobbled up FoxPro and killed their technology. I have no idea how many of those smaller companies he scooped up or sunk.

Bill Gates has nothing to offer the world, only another scheme to enrich himself and big pharma.
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Can you provide any links to your prediction this is a bioweapon. Other than chatter? Great idea on perimeter reopening, Unfortunately Americans are too impatient but may eventually have no choice. . .
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no i do not, and there will never be any. Do you remember the two indian doctors that released a paper proving that this virus had an HIV inclusion? they were immediately forced to retract it. not because it was false, but because it was TRUE. there is no natural way that HIV gets into a coronavirus. Also the bats that were the supposed vector for this disease were not sold at the wet market in question, and their natural environment was over 800 miles from wuhan. Bats dont migrate 800 miles.

I built a smart city in Qingdao China so i have some contacts inside the country, in early december, I was writing them asking their opinion on what was going on. apparently the bioweapon narrative was spreading pretty fast in China. The CCP took immediate action to wipe all wuhan research off the web and basically shut down the entire Chinese internet. I can no longer get through to any of my contacts in china, it has been that way since mid december. The CCP knows if the truth gets out about the research they will have a MASSIVE shit storm on their hands in terms of a revolt. CCP has a giant troll army that constantly spreads misinfo. i woudlnt be surprised if the current "the virus is a nothingburger" narrative is being perpetuated by the CCP
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Mr. dull socks, you sound like the real deal. Let me pose a theory to you. The Wuhan virus is a bio-weapon as you say, that leaked out apparently into the community and wreaked whatever havoc. Would this tie in with Bill Gates' activities or is that just a coincidence?

Anyway, we (US) get hold of this info, we don't want to tell everyone there is a bioweapon on the loose so we make up a story about this deadly virus (which is really just a flu virus) to put everyone on lock down while we search for people who actually DO become infected with the bio-weapon as they emerge into the medical system (because of the severity of their symptoms). So in having the virus cover story, we keep people locked down and not spreading the actual bioweapon, while the government can search for those infected with it in a less cluttered medical environment.

Is this is a possibility?

Also, are the symptoms we are being told for this Wuhan bioweapon the same as for the virus or are there other things we are not being told? The inclusion of HIV would make this seem, as you say, to be a long, possibly permanent, infection. Does this spread on a purely respiratory basis?
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>>Would this tie in with Bill Gates' activities or is that just a coincidence?

I think it is just a coincidence

>>So in having the virus cover story, we keep people locked down and not spreading the actual bioweapon, while the government can search for those infected with it in a less cluttered medical environment.

Is this is a possibility?


early on there were rumors that it only affected Asians. Then people in italy/iran started getting infected and that story kinda disappeared. I believe that this rumor is still true to some extent. However fore more reasons than just the ACE2 receptor. another thing that i immediatly started looking for was COVID19 ability to infect the prevotella bacteria. this was something noted in the horseshoe bat experiments from the wuhan lab. they determined that this specific form of coronavirus could infect ACE2 receptors, and additionally the prevotella bacteria. i eventually found my answer...

[link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]

I DOES infect prevotella and this explains part of the reason for a more profound effect in china, italy, and iran.

1. it can Infect ACE2 which asians seem to have more of
2. it can infect prevotella. asians, iranians, and italians ALL have a large amount of prevotella present in their bodies based on a high carb diet.

People in the west eat more fats so we have a lower amount of prevotella present, therefore (my speculation) is that it doesnt affect us quite as severely because it only attacks the respiratory system, and doesnt additionally infect the prevotella causing a more severe form of the virus. i think it is the same disaese as in wuhan we just don't get affected quite as bad. that also explains why the azythromycin seems to work. it kills the prevotella bacteria.

>>Also, are the symptoms we are being told for this Wuhan bioweapon the same as for the virus or are there other things we are not being told? The inclusion of HIV would make this seem, as you say, to be a long, possibly permanent, infection. Does this spread on a purely respiratory basis?

i do think we will eventually find out that this thing is permanent. WE already finding out it attacks the immune system just like HIV...

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Here’s another link, same info
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Interesting info and connection ,

“We Are Seeing Few Cases of HIV-Positive People With Severe COVID-19”
As a result, researchers in Spain are testing whether HIV med Truvada, often used as PrEP, can also prevent COVID-19.
April 13, 2020

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This is a pretty big deal..

It's basically like saying you're going to ignore the hurricane forecast map....

damned
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"They" planned it..."They" implemented it...AND they tried to frighten the world into begging for the "Gates Vaccine".

WHO is "They" - Hang those monsters !!!!!!



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there is no "they". There is probably a lot of "thems" but the "thems" most likely dont work together to make "theys" it is just a scapegoat we use when things dont make sense
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Try harder.

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He explained on the Sirius XM’s Breitbart News Daily host Alex Marlow, that given the new data, businesses will begin to re-open as early as May, others in June.”


Could it actually be true?!
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holy shit NICE!


FUCK gates!
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Umm - might be better ways of phrasing that sentiment, with which most of us agree.

Gates is very proud of all the innoculations he has arranged to kill, to paralyze, to render permanently unable to reproduce, and all the other joys which he has backed and then made millions or billions from, while his targets suffer and die. I propose that we get hold of that wildebeaste man, attach him to a chair by whatever imaginative means are suggested, and give him EVERY SINGLE VACCINE he has created, encouraged, backed, had anything to do with. Then we video tape.

We might have to kidnap a doctor to sit with us and verify each symptom or illness he develops. We'll let it run full blast through him while he enjoys the works of his hands. At the end, when it's been like 48 hours with no new developments, or two years, or whatever length of time the majority has patience and interest to watch, we can turn him loose. He will no longer be a threat to anyone.

We share the video with the world - making certain his face is clear in every scene. Gates is done, vaccines are done unless they come from someone we trust - who the heck would that be? - and are tested over and over for side effects.

Such pleasures we mere mortals can only dream of, right?

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The CCP knows if the truth gets out about the research they will have a MASSIVE shit storm on their hands in terms of a revolt. CCP has a giant troll army that constantly spreads misinfo. i woudlnt be surprised if the current "the virus is a nothingburger" narrative is being perpetuated by the CCP
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Making matters worse, we can't have full confidence in the statements of our own officials. The Surgeon General implied over a week ago that by this time in April the US would have gone through another Pearl Harbor or 9-11.

Unless Jerome Adams has access to super-secret top information that would make him say that, people can theorize he tried to sow panic in order to help Bill Gates' and Anthony Fauci's political and financial investments in the vaccination industry.

Regardless, that entire bunch in general is from the side of the political aisle where Spygate, Bidengate, Epsteingate and Lois-Lernergate exist. Not to mention the world's UN/WHOgate.

Hey, what could possibly go wrong?
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No, I'm bored with you because you didn't answer my question that I sincerely wanted your opinion on ( when I believed you were sincere).

So now, just about like everything else in this climate, I don't trust your motives anymore.
Please, bother me no more...
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I can tell you something about myself and i dont care if you believe me or not. My motives are always truth, no matter where that leads. I am currently a technology consultant for many fortune 500 companies. my day to day job consists of advising companies what sort of technology to invest in and what sort to discard. i can PROMISE you, you use some of the things i have been fundamental in having produced and you likely use my technology on a daily basis.

A few years back i was hired by a large swedish car company to advise them on autonomous automobiles.long story short i told them to not invest in any autonomous tech that would be used in an uncontrolled environment. They didnt like that answer because at the time the autonomous car boom was beginning, but they did heed my advice, and only worked on autonomy for mining. For a couple of years while uber, and tesla seemed to be making advances in autonomy i took heat, then all my predictions came true and the entire investments in autonomy collapsed virtually overnight. All that to say, it is my job to be able to see what the future holds based on the knock on effects of a particular set of parameters. I get paid VERY well by these companies because i am good at what i do. I am simply telling you what i see. I dont like the answer either, but i can assure you that it is VERY genuine.
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Like I said to you earlier, I believe you to be a sincere guy. I, too, follow the truth no matter where it leads.

I admitted on this thread that yes, this is a bio weapon, and yes, we are NEVER going back to "normal". But the evidence that they are conflating the covid positive cases cannot be disputed.

So again, I'll ask you, because I would like your opinion, why do you suppose they are conflating the numbers? Is it because their man made bio weapon was a bit of a dud?

And please know, I shave with occam's razor...
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I told Jake, i worked in big pharma early in my career. The Influenza numbers were purposefully inflated in order to scare people into taking the flu shot, and/or take the antivirals for the flu. We would pay for diagnostic tests and freely distribute them to the hospitals and doctors. Also hospitals would get kickbacks for flu diagnosis (just like is happening now with covid19) This wasnt even a secret. It was standard protocol. (when i started finding this info out i eventually quit, on ethical grouds)

I live in a VERY red state, it seems that our numbers are legit, and we arent really getting tons of infections. So my state seems to be trying to be sincere in reporting. so i dont think there is a concerted, nationwide, effort to deceive. All that being said this is my true assessment of what is going on. Some of this info is based on chatter from the deep web from servers just outside of china, some is just pure speculative.

1. The Virus: It was a bioweapon, released on accident (this is the chatter portion) I am almost 100% positive about this.

2. The Democrats and media: In the beginning the Democrats thought China would be able to contain it, that is why their narrative was racism, xenophobia, trumps is a dictator, etc. they soon realized that it couldnt be contained so they switched the narrative to "trump is incompetent". this fact alone tells me that it is nothing more than opportunism. They didnt really have anything predetermined. THis is largely because they are brainless.

3. Bill Gates: Again, opportunism. I have no doubt that he has been funding research into bioweapons and that he is a plague on humanity, but this was an accident, and he wasnt prepared for it, but is taking the opportunity to push his agenda.

4. Military: I dont think there is a larger agenda pertaining to the military, but i could be wrong. I think they have been mobilized simply because this is the type of situation that can quickly overwhelm police and start civil unrest. I think that is the only reason the military has been mobilized at this point.

All in all, i think you have a couple of groups that are inflating the number to simply seize the opportunity to further their agenda. the first is to hurt trump, the second is to force vaccines. I dont think it is coordinated in any manner, and i think both of these things will fail.

I can tell you that i know for a fact that there are people right now coming up with a plan to restructure a new society. I know these guys personally and have been getting small hints that they are coming up with a 18yr transition plan as we speak. what that plan looks like, i have no idea, but i do know it is 18yrs long.

hope this helps
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Well said! Nailed it!
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the bioweapon part has nothing to do with how the virus acts. it has to do with how the virus infects. also a VERY VERY interesting clue is how it is affecting different age groups. but explain to me, how does a virus get an HIV inclusion, when HIV only infects humans? a bat cant get HIV, so how do you suspect this mutation happens? the answer. it doesnt. not naturally.
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the bioweapon part has nothing to do with how the virus acts. it has to do with how the virus infects. also a VERY VERY interesting clue is how it is affecting different age groups. but explain to me, how does a virus get an HIV inclusion, when HIV only infects humans? a bat cant get HIV, so how do you suspect this mutation happens? the answer. it doesnt. not naturally.
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You may be interested in this:

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great video! thanks!
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