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RNC Chair Issues īCease and Desistī Letter On Draft Discussion

 
CroWoman
10/16/2004 01:50 AM
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RNC Chair Issues īcease and desistī letter on draft discussion (from Josh Marshallīs īTalking Points Memoī) "This week RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie sent the group [Rock The Vote] a īcease and desistī letter threatening legal action against the group and raising the possibility of seeking the revocation of the groupīs status as a tax-exempt 501c3 organization if the group did not cease discussing the draft issue. Claims that a draft is possible, Gillespie argued, are so ridiculous on their face that the group could only be acting from īmalicious intent and a reckless disregard for the truth.ī (Those, of course, are catchphrases laying the groundwork for legal action.)"
3 Crows
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Shhh. Shhh. SHUSH. Shh...

PAY NO ATTENION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!
CroWoman
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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This is sad, 3 Crows, but I am almost becoming UNshocked at the level and degree of dirty tricks this Admin will go to....there is no end to what they will do.


Should we start adding up the last few days for a start?

Like the voter registration fraud in Nevada and Oregon?
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12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Ho hummmmmm. Draft=urban legend. Hats off to the honorable men and women who VOLUNTEER to bring some order to the world of sand dunes.

Cro, try applying your energy to the billion some people who want you and your family dead. Personally, I think you havenīt a clue as to what is going on...but, at least in America, I honor your opinion, even if I think you are under the influence of DUMB.

"And she told me: īSilly rabbit, itīs a predatory world. All your wanting it different wonīt change a thing. Rabbits are food. Always have been, always will be. Be food but be wild food and run very very fast...you might just make it to another day."
--Daisy Maeīs Wisdom of Homo Sapiens
3 Crows
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Well, no, itīs perfectly permissible to let the Supreme Court annoint [scratch that] ajudicate [scratch that] select [yes, thatīs it!] a preferred galloping globalist lap-dog turbo capitalist puppet. Itīs the American way, after all.
3 Crows
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Deutchsland Uber Alles! ...wait...ah what was I trying to say?
CroWoman
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Ho hummmmmm. Draft=urban legend. Hats off to the honorable men and women who VOLUNTEER to bring some order to the world of sand dunes.<<<


There was a Bill in Congress that was just recently shelved....but it is a very reasonable concern and there is talk that they are re-writing a new Bill to be presented after the sElections.


>>>Cro, try applying your energy to the billion some people who want you and your family dead. Personally, I think you havenīt a clue as to what is going on...but, at least in America, I honor your opinion, even if I think you are under the influence of DUMB.<<<

I think I have a pretty clear idea what is happening in America and on this planet, I have read PNAC, have you?!.....you must watch TV.
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12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Hahaha. Thatīs right, you donīt have to go anywhere because this is America, but you might have to do some time to honor your decision...nevertheless, the draft is a myth and it is not necessary...there are still those of us who are willing to sacrifice our lives so you pussies can sit on your ass and mentally masterbate on forums like this one as to the nature and structure of democracy.

I did my time, for an ambiguous ideal of what freedom means...in the end that will be different for every man and woman. No thanks is necessary from cowards. Actions always speak louder than whining. Have a nice life and thank the veterans and active warriors who are intercepting the bullets and bombs targetted at you and yours.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Yep. A predatory world. Carnivors on two legs. Always has been. Always will be. Buddhas and Avatars have appeared to re-calibrate the monkey but nothing changes. Perhaps we should understand this fact and not try to be something that we are not. IMO.
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12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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You can bet your bippy the new draft bill will have weasely outs for the rich kids.
CroWoman
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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there are still those of us who are willing to sacrifice our lives <<<


Well whatīs stopping you, : )~ ?!?!?

Why arenīt you out there now on the front lines, tuff guy?

If this were a just war and one that was truly necessary to protect our country or our borders, that is another issue all together.

I find it hard to believe that there is anyone out there who is informed, which you must not be, who still believes this is a war on terror.
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12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Lovely Cro,
The streets are terror, your boss is terror, your gods are terror.

I am quite capable of taking care of what is.
I am not under the illusion that either point of view is correct.

If you shake my hand, I will return the shake.
If you want to string me up because I am white, employeed and a warrior at heart, then we will have conflict.

The world is bigger than you or me and I simply believe that America is valuable as an example of co=existence. Terror wants to destroy that. You must think yourself an advocate of peace and yet your aura suggests that you would do violence to me for having a different opinion.
I do not blame pussies for being afraid. I think of liberals and Democrats as deer who are just simply trying to survive. I carried you through the 80īs as a Marine, so you could simply express your own truth. That is what it is all about. Donīt disparage those of us who want to question your sense of how things operate in the big big world.

Peace to you Cro and blessings to the men and women of all countries who, by their service, are telling the bullies of the world, "NO" you will not touch these friends of mine--even if they are crazy cowards...I like them just as they are.
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12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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a WHOLE PLATOON stood up to their Commander this week and said "HELL NO-WE WONT GO" -word like that travels like wild fire over there-keep a watch!

This made the 6:00 News!


You can bet Mr & Mrs Average American will be paying full attention
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12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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p.s. Cro, in reply to your question. I am too old and onery to be suitable for the front lines...that is why we have cocky, immortal feeling young people to step up and take the old dogs place.

When the Dalai Lama fled Tibet rather than resist the Chinese, he fled to a military, industrial country--India. If a pacifist is worth their word, they would simply stand their ground and be slaughtered by the enemy they chose to deny. That I can respect. I have a feeling that those of you who protest the warlike nature of humanity would be the first ones to run to some other military, industrial country, seeking safe haven. You are just simply AFRAID to die. You identify with your body and have no sense of honor, nobility or the future of your children and grandchildren...for seven generations.
CroWoman
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Yep, 2:56...i was thinking the same thing. This has been a huge issue, the military not supplying our men and women with the proper armor and protective gear....

I think many of the soldiers are wondering too if what theya re fighting for is worth it.




: )~

I donīt know where you got the suggestion of violence in my post but perhaps you are projecting it. And I donīt think you have a clear idea of what I know or what I believe. You seem to want to slap some stigmatized label of *liberal* on me and presume to know quite a bit.

Maybe you should ask questions before you leap to conclusions.
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12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Plenty of us vets are liberal anti-war peace loving folk. The moron jarhead huffing and puffing doesnīt speak for us all.

VETS FOR KERRY! VETS FOR PEACE! VETS FOR THE CONSTITUTION! VETS AGAINST PATRIOT ACTS 1 & 2!
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12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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So then, at this point, nothing has happenned in terms of common ground, only accusations...the sides are now drawn and citizens are ready to war among themselves.

Most interesting and predictable.

Might as well be sports.
How about religion?

The monkey rules the night, the day. No change.......either way. What is is what has always been. Case in point.
CroWoman
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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You missed the point of this article anyways,
: )~ , it is about the continuing supresion of Freedom of Speech and dissent by this current administration.

Kind of ironic how now that they have found no WMDs and it is pretty well accepted thqt Saddam was never a threat to our national security, they are now selling this war as a Freedom Fight while they continue to stifle and take ours away at home.
YOU DUMBASSES!!!
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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"VETS FOR KERRY! VETS FOR PEACE! VETS FOR THE CONSTITUTION! VETS AGAINST PATRIOT ACTS 1 & 2!"

Charles Rangel (Democratic Representative, NY), was the one who introduced the legislation.

[link to makeashorterlink.com]

GO AHEAD, VOTE FOR KERRY YOU DUMB VETS!!!
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12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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CroWoman
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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This wasnīt about the "internet rumours" of the draft or who wrote the legislation....at least that wasnīt my point in posting it. It was just another example of how this Admin is finding more ways of squashing our Freedoms.

If this Admin has itīs way, they are not stopping with Iraq. This war and a plan to "stabilize" the Middle East was in place LONG before 911 or before Bush even became pResident.

Our military is already stretched to itīs limits with tours being extended and what some refer to as the backdoor draft.

Given the news today about the mutiny over in Iraq and reports of suicides, AWOLS, and soldiers not reporting for duty....I would say that our soldierīs are being stressed beyond what they can endure.

It is not unreasonable that people would consider that a draft is possible so why canīt it be an election issue?
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12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Cro, I do love you. We have freedom of speech here, right now. Even if the emperor passes legistlation to take it away, we will still discuss it with anyone at hand. Personally, I think Saddam was necessary to control the personality of the culture represented by the Iraqis. I know that sounds cold but we are dealing with "what is" as opposed to what we bring here from our various soul backgrounds. If someone holds a gun to your head and says: "Bow to our will" and in your heart you say "No", then I would say you are not in conflict and I respect that. If your child (and they often are the antithesis of our own philosophy) comes to you and says: "I believe I need to serve in the armed forces, to protect my country," they I would certainly be proud that they stand on their own and embrace their own principles. Donīt you think our dialogue is more interesting than the article? That is the nature of blabbing with others...we get off target. You could be my sister, the one who fought me tooth and nail but I would die for you if it meant you would get to persue your dream.
CroWoman
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Personally, I think Saddam was necessary to control the personality of the culture represented by the Iraqis.<<<

This is my last post as it is past my bedtime.

I will admit....I am mostly anti-war and can not come up with too many circumstances where I would be in support of a war, though I am not a total pacifist. Nothing good comes out of war except the war pigs getting richer...and they have people like you who romanticize their patriotic duty to do their deed and sacrificial lambs.....well not my children, not for an unjust war.

Please go back and review the facts and the premise given as to why we went to war and why our Congress approved. They were flat out misled and lied to and taken advantage of by our grief and resolve following 911. And if you get a chance, read PNAC, you do know what I am referring to? Cheney, Rummy, and the Wolfowitz thinktank gangsters?....tell me if you need the link. I am assuming your only news source isnīt FOX and Rush Limbaugh.

This war is about controlling the oil in the Middle East as well as their resources and an even larger plan for global domination...and there will be more to follow.
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12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Cro, your in left field on this one.
Vet For Kerry
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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I know Rangel wrote it. He saw the writing on the wall with bushīs warplans - which were planned before the jerk was elected by the supreme court - and Rangel wrote it up so there would be no exclusion for the eliteīs active participation.

Thatīs why they just did away with it. They need to redo it so thereīs outs for the rich when they reinstate the draft after the election. Watch bush and see.

Pentagon has warplans for Syria
Iran war brewing
N. Korea boiling over
Not enough troops to maintain our two present wars

You donīt have to be a dumbass to do this math kiddo. They have plans and they always follow through with them. Thatīs what you get with an UNWAVERING president - nothing will stop him from his appointed duties of filling his friends bank accounts. War writes their bloody checks.

Bush says himself he is the war president. I believe him.
CroWoman
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Be a little more specific, 3:41. Where do you think I am being left field?
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12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Cro. I understand your position. I know you would stand between an aggressor and the ones you love. It is the nature of the human monkey to war. A scorpion can only be itīs true nature and I appreciate that and consider it the scorpions beauty. Perhaps in another world, free of the prison masters, everything would operate in balance and harmony. This is earth...prison Gaia and not amount of resistance has changed the fact that war, peace, freedom are given as pills to control the souls trapped in a godīs vision that is the antithesis of self-determination. All I can say is two things:

l. Know yourself and stand your ground--which you have done and a *kiss* for your beauty way.

2. Sweet dreams as I know you (and I) are overdue for some quiet, restful sleep.

Goodnight Crowoman, The woman, much better than me.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Bush, Kerry, it donīt matter--the draft will come back under either Dems or Repubs.
CroWoman
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Amen, Vet!
CroWoman
12/08/2005 10:18 AM
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Oh, dear : )~....


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