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How do you choose where to open the grass? Should it get afternoon sun or morning sun.

Should I top the soil with store bought rich soil? Is it necessary. Newbie here and can use any advice at all....


thank you in advance.
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I’m interested to see where this thread goes. I’d say pick 3 or 4 things you want to grow and then see what light they need and go from there. A three sisters garden might be a good start. It’s companion planting of corn, beans, and squash.
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I’m interested to see where this thread goes. I’d say pick 3 or 4 things you want to grow and then see what light they need and go from there. A three sisters garden might be a good start. It’s companion planting of corn, beans, and squash.
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well I am in Jersey so tomatoes are a must We have the best tomatoes...

I was thinking Tomatoes, Beans, Zucchhini, Squash for starters but I don't know enough...
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Re: Need Help starting a backyard garden please.....
How do you choose where to open the grass? Should it get afternoon sun or morning sun.

Should I top the soil with store bought rich soil? Is it necessary. Newbie here and can use any advice at all....


thank you in advance.
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dig a hole, put seeds in ground, add water, wait.

Occasionally pull the weeds out.
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Re: Need Help starting a backyard garden please.....
How do you choose where to open the grass? Should it get afternoon sun or morning sun.

Should I top the soil with store bought rich soil? Is it necessary. Newbie here and can use any advice at all....


thank you in advance.
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the internet is your friend you know.. try Google.. you can ever ask google on your cell phone and maybe some computers about what you need.
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1- start with videos about starting your first garden. Watch and take notes.

2- pick a spot that gets between 6-8 hours of sun per day.

3- check online for your growing zone, VERY important.

Then, pick easy to grow items for your area. Again, watch lots of videos!!

I have a dear friend who loves to garden but has horrible water that kills nearly every single thing he tries to grow. So, have your water tested before going thru all the steps above! Also, a soil test would be a good idea. That will also help guide you towards the veggies that will grow super or just barely grow in your type of soil. Above ground or container gardening will solve the bad soil problems, and a water filter will help with the water situation also.

And, don't give up! Keep trying!

I have critter problems but have over the years figured out how to outsmart the doves and the mice and such garden destroyers. Raccoons are another problem even city people have rob their gardens. Be prepared for that.

I wish you all the best. That first veggie out of your garden … will be the best!
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I picked the sunniest part of my yard to dig up, plus other random rows, like lining my porch. My dirt sucks, so as I'm doing square foot gardening, I put the seedling in and fill the hole with potting soil. Although, I planted cucumbers straight in the clay dirt, and they are sprouting great. Just pick a sunny spot, plant what you'll eat, and experiment.
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Ants and worms are good for soil but some ants are agressive and bite.

non-treated Wood chips are great for the garden so mix em up with rich soils but best as raised beds unless you have a tiller... Raised bed gardening or tiller, digging will hurt your back
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I would pick the spot that gets the most sun all day.

The learning never stops with gardening...I've been doing it for over 20 years & still learn every year.

Turn over some soil & see what you have...rich soil, clay, or sand.

You can add dirt or you can make your own...I attract worms by digging holes in the garden & burying leaves & grass clippings. Worm poop is great fertilizer!

You can also set up a compost heap in the center of the garden and plant around it.
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Raising tomatoes is very easy from my observations.
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I would pick the spot that gets the most sun all day.

The learning never stops with gardening...I've been doing it for over 20 years & still learn every year.

Turn over some soil & see what you have...rich soil, clay, or sand.

You can add dirt or you can make your own...I attract worms by digging holes in the garden & burying leaves & grass clippings. Worm poop is great fertilizer!

You can also set up a compost heap in the center of the garden and plant around it.
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Compost in the garden actually sounds like a great idea.
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in general:
morning to afternoon sun is the ideal as its not TOO hot...

check farmers almanac best gardening days to know what phase of the moon to plant your seeds...

use the best soil you possibly can and if you cant buy any, make it yourself...

better to use trellises for your squash and zucchini..

all the bugs and bacteria are down on the ground so keep your plants growing upwards if you can.

start a compost pile and add stuff to rot whenever possible..
there are SO many things you can safely add, like paper and cardboards and newspapers, kitchen scraps, etc..

have fun!

talk to your plants! they hear you and know you are there!

plants can be hooked up to machines and each plant makes its own music..for real!
they are really pretty too, look on youtube for them.
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Do not pick your asparagus until they have 3 seasons to grow up. Asparagus is a finiky spoild child. Forever!
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How far apart should I plant the pancakes?
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I’m interested to see where this thread goes. I’d say pick 3 or 4 things you want to grow and then see what light they need and go from there. A three sisters garden might be a good start. It’s companion planting of corn, beans, and squash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14992014


well I am in Jersey so tomatoes are a must We have the best tomatoes...

I was thinking Tomatoes, Beans, Zucchhini, Squash for starters but I don't know enough...
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New Jersey has the best tomatoes. That’s About the only thing I miss from Jersey. I’m living above 6,000 feet now so no tomatoes, but I have elk.

I would use raised beds, no need to cut out the grass. Remember to use phosphates, tomatoes love that stuff. I lived in Charleston SC along Ashley Phosphate Rd. for a while and my tomato plants were 6’ tall and full of tomatoes. Phosphate, or chicken poo, your choice.
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Re: Need Help starting a backyard garden please.....
I would pick the spot that gets the most sun all day.

The learning never stops with gardening...I've been doing it for over 20 years & still learn every year.

Turn over some soil & see what you have...rich soil, clay, or sand.

You can add dirt or you can make your own...I attract worms by digging holes in the garden & burying leaves & grass clippings. Worm poop is great fertilizer!

You can also set up a compost heap in the center of the garden and plant around it.
 Quoting: Mental Case


Compost in the garden actually sounds like a great idea.
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I love your name...my aunt always called me "chicken man" :D
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Talk with a local gardener. Many variables at play depending on your location. Some locations have insect problems. Some have fungus. Some years are worse than others.

You will need to be prepared to handle all problems that arise. Your success will depend on how soon you handle the problems.

Soil pH can be a problem depending on what you are growing. Invest in some used garden equipment. Tilling the ground will help the roots get established. Tilling in certain ingredients will give the plants food. I'm not talking about fertilizer. Go easy on the fertilizer. Too much will burn the plants
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How far apart should I plant the pancakes?
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Pancake trees or shrubs?
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How far apart should I plant the pancakes?
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Pancake trees or shrubs?
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Trees. I've already planted the crepes in the area I designated for shrubs.
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BTW...when you face SOUTH you are facing the sun.

Plan your garden around that.

Taller growing plants would go on the north side of the garden & shorter growing plants would go on the south side.

That way no plant is blocking another plants sunlight.
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Re: Need Help starting a backyard garden please.....
I would pick the spot that gets the most sun all day.

The learning never stops with gardening...I've been doing it for over 20 years & still learn every year.

Turn over some soil & see what you have...rich soil, clay, or sand.

You can add dirt or you can make your own...I attract worms by digging holes in the garden & burying leaves & grass clippings. Worm poop is great fertilizer!

You can also set up a compost heap in the center of the garden and plant around it.
 Quoting: Mental Case


Compost in the garden actually sounds like a great idea.
 Quoting: Crazy Chicken Lady


I love your name...my aunt always called me "chicken man" :D
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Haha yes, my sister is a cat lady, my teen son will probably have 20 cats, but I decided I prefer chickens. There's something almost primeval about letting them out of the run to watch them forage. Idk, speaks to my soul.
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Raising tomatoes is very easy from my observations.
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Not at 6,280’! I miss tomatoes. verysad
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Plant most of your seeds on the new moon.
You will attract rabbits and squirrels from miles around.
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Here is my advice. Start this year with a bag garden. They are simply bags of topsoil you buy and cut open and plant directly into it. Then choose the sunniest part of your yard and till it up, keep it weeded all year and plant it next year. The reason being is ,cutworms and wireworms. They live in grassy areas but not so much in tilled ground. Secondly get some neem oil organic concentrate for fungicide ,aphids and other bugs, then get some Dipel which is Bt for cabbage worms and tomato worms. Only use non organic fungicides (if the late blight shows up then use chlorothalinol or equivalent.

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I’m interested to see where this thread goes. I’d say pick 3 or 4 things you want to grow and then see what light they need and go from there. A three sisters garden might be a good start. It’s companion planting of corn, beans, and squash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14992014


well I am in Jersey so tomatoes are a must We have the best tomatoes...

I was thinking Tomatoes, Beans, Zucchhini, Squash for starters but I don't know enough...
 Quoting: Bird Shadow


You should grow a variety of things, some of which can be consumed, others stored or canned to put up for the winter.

Tomatoes - you want slicers like Mortgage Lifter or Brandywine and canners like San Marzano or Roma

Potatos - Yukon gold are crowd pleasers, you can use potatos from the store once the eyes develop.

Carrots- Start a second crop in August and leave in the ground, cover with a tarp and you can go out and dig them up during the winter.

Collards - super dense with vitamins, you can blanch and freeze.

Kale (Lacinato) - aka dino kale. Super good for you.

Lettuce - only takes about 45 days till you can harvest and eat right out of the garden

Zucchini - pick daily or you could end up with baseball bat sized squash

Butternut squash (Waltham) - You can store this one. Also recommended are Kabocha, which everyone loves. Keeps all winter.
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I’m interested to see where this thread goes. I’d say pick 3 or 4 things you want to grow and then see what light they need and go from there. A three sisters garden might be a good start. It’s companion planting of corn, beans, and squash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14992014


well I am in Jersey so tomatoes are a must We have the best tomatoes...

I was thinking Tomatoes, Beans, Zucchhini, Squash for starters but I don't know enough...
 Quoting: Bird Shadow


You should grow a variety of things, some of which can be consumed, others stored or canned to put up for the winter.

Tomatoes - you want slicers like Mortgage Lifter or Brandywine and canners like San Marzano or Roma

Potatos - Yukon gold are crowd pleasers, you can use potatos from the store once the eyes develop.

Carrots- Start a second crop in August and leave in the ground, cover with a tarp and you can go out and dig them up during the winter.

Collards - super dense with vitamins, you can blanch and freeze.

Kale (Lacinato) - aka dino kale. Super good for you.

Lettuce - only takes about 45 days till you can harvest and eat right out of the garden

Zucchini - pick daily or you could end up with baseball bat sized squash

Butternut squash (Waltham) - You can store this one. Also recommended are Kabocha, which everyone loves. Keeps all winter.
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Ok, so I have a dumb question that I have not been able to answer. Assuming you are planting enough to be able to eat and preserve all winter (I am not there), when you are harvesting, how do you determine what you are eating vs what you are preserving? Did that make sense?
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Around here a fence is the most important thing. The deer parade right thru my yard going to a creek every night and seem to try to eat all things I try to grow. Then it's the wabbits.





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