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Resumption of C19 cytokine inducing products

 
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04/25/2020 09:17 AM
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Resumption of C19 cytokine inducing products
Presuming someone has recovered from Cov19, when and if is it safe to resume taking elderberry, anti-inflammatories etc. Is there any info out there on this?
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04/25/2020 11:15 AM
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Re: Resumption of C19 cytokine inducing products
Searched studies from SARS 1 2004 to 2016, do not see any recommendations for recovered persons.
Interesting that they have no vaccine for SARS 1.
They tried injecting mice with some type, but they got sick.
blessings.
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04/25/2020 11:30 AM
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Re: Resumption of C19 cytokine inducing products
I would presume it's ok but with info that people might get reinfected maybe it's a gamble.
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Re: Resumption of C19 cytokine inducing products
Why not take together with herbs that minimize cytokine storm like Curcumin, or Papaya Leaf? According to many research papers, Papaya leaf has been tested extensively for handling Dengue fever/virus.

Also, there's no evidence Elderberry triggers Cytokine Storm.

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More recently, a 2016 study showed that a formula based on Elderberry inhibited cytokines in people who had atherosclerosis.3 The take-away from this study is that the cytokines were not helpful to the overall situation, and Elderberry did not stimulate cytokine production.

The Bottom Line

Elderberry is not likely to be able to cause CRS (Cytokine Relese Syndrome) to happen by itself, and there have been no causative links of Elderberry or any herbs associated with CRS. CRS is caused by a severe amount of damage to the tissues and activated immune cells in later stages of infection, and therefore should be managed by medical professionals.
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Re: Resumption of C19 cytokine inducing products
Why not take together with herbs that minimize cytokine storm like Curcumin, or Papaya Leaf? According to many research papers, Papaya leaf has been tested extensively for handling Dengue fever/virus.

Also, there's no evidence Elderberry triggers Cytokine Storm.

[link to www.gaiaherbs.com (secure)]
More recently, a 2016 study showed that a formula based on Elderberry inhibited cytokines in people who had atherosclerosis.3 The take-away from this study is that the cytokines were not helpful to the overall situation, and Elderberry did not stimulate cytokine production.

The Bottom Line

Elderberry is not likely to be able to cause CRS (Cytokine Relese Syndrome) to happen by itself, and there have been no causative links of Elderberry or any herbs associated with CRS. CRS is caused by a severe amount of damage to the tissues and activated immune cells in later stages of infection, and therefore should be managed by medical professionals.

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Well I got paranoid. Not that I was ever symptomatic but I did stop elderberry as some posted. I did continue my other herbs and supplements, too many to list.
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Re: Resumption of C19 cytokine inducing products
who says its ever safe, even without corona?
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Re: Resumption of C19 cytokine inducing products
who says its ever safe, even without corona?
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Point taken but they are necessary for me. Allergies, arthritis etc.
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