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Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes

 
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Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
Hundreds of folks looking to head to their summer homes in one Massachusetts beach town will likely find themselves without running water.

Officials in Salisbury are reportedly refusing to turn on water meters for more than 300 seasonal homes in an effort to keep residents homebound until the coronavirus pandemic subsides.



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Containing the spread of the coronavirus requires collective, unified action, but data on social distancing makes it clear this isn’t happening everywhere.

The question is why.

In what kinds of places are residents deciding to move about as if they are immune to the virus that has paralyzed much of the world?

What do they look like, and why are they ignoring the calls for social distancing?

To get some hints, I put together several sources of data from US counties focusing on economic and demographic characteristics, voting patterns, civic engagement and social capital, and even attitudes toward climate change from Yale’s Climate Change in the American Mind survey.


Analyzing the data reveals that social distancing behavior is related to education; to race and ethnicity; to political identity and social capital; and to the impact that this virus has already had on the residents of particular counties.

And the various sources of data also reveal a larger pattern.

One of the strongest and most robust predictors of social distancing behavior is found in attitudes toward another major challenge facing the United States: climate change.

Places where residents are less likely to agree that global warming is happening, that humans are the cause, and that we have an obligation to do something about it are the places where residents haven’t changed their behavior in response to coronavirus.

The analysis makes clear that we have a collective action problem much larger than Covid-19.


Other measures like the age profile of the county, the total size of the population, the racial and ethnic composition, and even the total number of confirmed cases of Covid-19 do not have a clear relationship with social distancing behavior. Different characteristics turn out to be much better predictors; the strongest predictors are shown in the chart above.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, politics and civic engagement bear a strong relationship to social distancing behavior. Higher levels of social capital — a combination of voter turnout in federal elections, response rates in the 2010 census, the number of associations and the number of nonprofits per capita — is associated with more social distancing.

By contrast, counties with the greatest share of votes for Trump in the 2016 election were least likely to practice social distancing. And the greater the share of residents who disagreed with the statement that global warming is happening, the worse the county’s grade received in the Social Distancing Scoreboard.

Social distancing grades rise with the level of social capital in a county, and grades fall with the percentage of the county voters who cast a ballot for Trump in 2016.


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They are tracking all of us

This website shows each states Stats and Grade for social distancing



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Do they Pay Taxes to that City whiles they are in Town?
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Salisbury's Board of Health, supported by the town manager, recommended the measure, which was voted on by town selectmen last week.

The service is not deemed essential, according to officials who were informed that the water company is also trying to protect its employees from contracting the highly contagious virus.


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Do they Pay Taxes to that City whiles they are in Town?
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They are really overreaching


“I called the water company and they said we’re not installing water meters,” he said.

“They take your meters out in the wintertime, so they have to come back and put the meter in. But there’s still a social distance to be held there. I don’t see any problem," seasonal resident Ed Johnson said.

“We pay a lot of taxes.

And the people on the oceanfront have a very high tax rate.

It wouldn’t be fair to not turn their water on,” seasonal resident Jean Johnson said.


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So they say to wash your hands repeatedly but refuse to turn the water on in the name of "Public Health"?!?!?

I swear I think the Rona attacks the brain of leftist politicians.
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Theres a wrench for that
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Salisbury's Board of Health, supported by the town manager, recommended the measure, which was voted on by town selectmen last week.

The service is not deemed essential, according to officials who were informed that the water company is also trying to protect its employees from contracting the highly contagious virus.


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The Rich must suffer with the poor. Should use the summer homes for living quarters for the sick.
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They haven't done that Cape Cod, MA where all the NYers are now in their 2nd homes wreaking havoc for all the locals with their noisy arrogance and refusal to social distance / masks or anything
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I’m 15 minutes away and Salisbury beach is trashy along with Seabrook right next door. There’s a nuclear plant so which means it’s affordable
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Do they Pay Taxes to that City whiles they are in Town?
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They are really overreaching


“I called the water company and they said we’re not installing water meters,” he said.

They take your meters out in the wintertime, so they have to come back and put the meter in. But there’s still a social distance to be held there. I don’t see any problem," seasonal resident Ed Johnson said.

“We pay a lot of taxes.

And the people on the oceanfront have a very high tax rate.

It wouldn’t be fair to not turn their water on,” seasonal resident Jean Johnson said.


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No way that take out the Water Meter, that is a lie, if anything they put a lock on it and any band saw, torch or heavy duty bolt cutters will remove the lock.
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Massholes deserve what they voted for
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Do they Pay Taxes to that City whiles they are in Town?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78016659


They are really overreaching


“I called the water company and they said we’re not installing water meters,” he said.

They take your meters out in the wintertime, so they have to come back and put the meter in. But there’s still a social distance to be held there. I don’t see any problem," seasonal resident Ed Johnson said.

“We pay a lot of taxes.

And the people on the oceanfront have a very high tax rate.

It wouldn’t be fair to not turn their water on,” seasonal resident Jean Johnson said.


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No way that take out the Water Meter, that is a lie, if anything they put a lock on it and any band saw, torch or heavy duty bolt cutters will remove the lock.
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Yeah, if I had a house there I would turn the water on for myself and anyone who asked. Its bullshit to block owners from their property and utilities they pay to connect to.
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total bullshit!

edit: not you kpm, the politicians that allowed this, i mean.

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I’m 15 minutes away and Salisbury beach is trashy along with Seabrook right next door. There’s a nuclear plant so which means it’s affordable
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What he said.

My family visited for years. Stopped when the junkies needles and medical waste started washing up.

Riptides at Salisbury are downright nasty. Me and my cousin got yanked out and almost lost our lives at 7yo

Hampton Beach is right up the road anyway.
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Morning Scrump

Salisbury Beach and nearby Plum Island have even restricted parking warning of tickets and tows

We will never get our rights back after this

They will force us to be like China every flu season now if we don’t stand up to this overreach
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I’m 15 minutes away and Salisbury beach is trashy along with Seabrook right next door. There’s a nuclear plant so which means it’s affordable
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What he said.

My family visited for years. Stopped when the junkies needles and medical waste started washing up.

Riptides at Salisbury are downright nasty. Me and my cousin got yanked out and almost lost our lives at 7yo

Hampton Beach is right up the road anyway.
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If you own a home there and pay taxes you think this is fair?

No matter what the condition of the beach is, people pay taxes and have the right to running water
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Salisbury's Board of Health, supported by the town manager, recommended the measure, which was voted on by town selectmen last week.

The service is not deemed essential, according to officials who were informed that the water company is also trying to protect its employees from contracting the highly contagious virus.


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The Rich must suffer with the poor. Should use the summer homes for living quarters for the sick.
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What if the rich person is ill and in a hot spot?

They shouldn’t be able to travel and shelter to their own property?

Just give it up huh....
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So they say to wash your hands repeatedly but refuse to turn the water on in the name of "Public Health"?!?!?

I swear I think the Rona attacks the brain of leftist politicians.
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No, it’s given them powers we may never see reversed
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Theres a wrench for that
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^ This. Problem solved.
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Salisbury's Board of Health, supported by the town manager, recommended the measure, which was voted on by town selectmen last week.

The service is not deemed essential, according to officials who were informed that the water company is also trying to protect its employees from contracting the highly contagious virus.


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The Rich must suffer with the poor. Should use the summer homes for living quarters for the sick.
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Doesn’t matter. If they pay taxes they should get to use it.

Sue the city.
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Theres a wrench for that
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^ This. Problem solved.
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It has two uses as well, if the Water Works engineers want to get froggy and talk.
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Any travel options are scrutinized, such as, at airports, taking your temp and ordering you quarantined if you travel. They want everyone hamstrung!
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I’m 15 minutes away and Salisbury beach is trashy along with Seabrook right next door. There’s a nuclear plant so which means it’s affordable
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What he said.

My family visited for years. Stopped when the junkies needles and medical waste started washing up.

Riptides at Salisbury are downright nasty. Me and my cousin got yanked out and almost lost our lives at 7yo

Hampton Beach is right up the road anyway.
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If you own a home there and pay taxes you think this is fair?

No matter what the condition of the beach is, people pay taxes and have the right to running water
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Seasonal Homes, to be exact. That's what they are talking about. Let's get that straight from the start.

No, not fair, but the season is not open yet and town council is trying to dissuade folks from coming in so that the same thing that happened in Nantucket and parts of Cape Cod don't happen in Salisbury, which is a poor town to begin with.

By the time end of May rolls around they will start opening stuff.

Better to keep YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS safe than it is to cow tow to some ninny who thinks he is safe in his seasonal rental, No ???
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Do they Pay Taxes to that City whiles they are in Town?
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All year if they own the home? But...total azzhole state. They have the shite on top
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Theres a wrench for that
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My old man used to turn on the water every Christmas. We would all go out and sing carols next to the mains until he clipped the lock on the power box and lit the tree.
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Idiots rich owners deserve this

We have a well

The city has a hookup

We pay the bribe, meter fee, every month year round whether we are there or not, whether we use the well or not.

To avoid the bribe, shut off the water, and restart when you return.

So, the cheap fools who refused to pay their meter/hookup fee EVERY month get what they deserve

Property tax doesn't cover water meter

Welcome to democrap run areas

During the tornadoes last week, and during hurricane michael, we lost electricity. Since my water meter is always hooked up, I simply closed the electric well apollo valve and opened the working city water apollo valve. I can switch back and forth whenever I want. Helps when the well fails(lightning kills it often enough or during a major storm power outage). I pay for this luxury by paying my watermeter hookup EVERY month even when I use 0 gallons of chloramine, pipe rusting inhibiting, flouridated... water.

Keep those seasonal clowns out of town. They all come from chinavirusville anyway.
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So much for private property rights
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I’m 15 minutes away and Salisbury beach is trashy along with Seabrook right next door. There’s a nuclear plant so which means it’s affordable
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What he said.

My family visited for years. Stopped when the junkies needles and medical waste started washing up.

Riptides at Salisbury are downright nasty. Me and my cousin got yanked out and almost lost our lives at 7yo

Hampton Beach is right up the road anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22263566


If you own a home there and pay taxes you think this is fair?

No matter what the condition of the beach is, people pay taxes and have the right to running water
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Seasonal Homes, to be exact. That's what they are talking about. Let's get that straight from the start.

No, not fair, but the season is not open yet and town council is trying to dissuade folks from coming in so that the same thing that happened in Nantucket and parts of Cape Cod don't happen in Salisbury, which is a poor town to begin with.

By the time end of May rolls around they will start opening stuff.

Better to keep YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS safe than it is to cow tow to some ninny who thinks he is safe in his seasonal rental, No ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22263566


No, IMO, if you own a house and pay taxes you should be able to occupy that home at any time you wish

If they have seasonal rules that homeowners have to follow, they should not restrict them

Homeowners should be asked to shelter in place upon arriving at their home

The risky groups should be the ones quarantined not the healthy
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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
Idiots rich owners deserve this

We have a well

The city has a hookup

We pay the bribe, meter fee, every month year round whether we are there or not, whether we use the well or not.

To avoid the bribe, shut off the water, and restart when you return.

So, the cheap fools who refused to pay their meter/hookup fee EVERY month get what they deserve

Property tax doesn't cover water meter

Welcome to democrap run areas

During the tornadoes last week, and during hurricane michael, we lost electricity. Since my water meter is always hooked up, I simply closed the electric well apollo valve and opened the working city water apollo valve. I can switch back and forth whenever I want. Helps when the well fails(lightning kills it often enough or during a major storm power outage). I pay for this luxury by paying my watermeter hookup EVERY month even when I use 0 gallons of chloramine, pipe rusting inhibiting, flouridated... water.

Keep those seasonal clowns out of town. They all come from chinavirusville anyway.
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So are you saying home owners have the option to shut off water for a season if they are not there or leave it on and pay the bill?

In Michigan we just turn our main water line off if we know we aren’t going to be there for the winter, you just turn it on and off yourself
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Its called a quarantine

This is a water bill hookup and has nothing to do with taxes, which pay for schools/police/fire/roads/bridges and maybe garbage pickup.

Water company is a corporation in many areas now.

Easy way to quarantine is to keep the city water off for seasonal residents and keep them in Coronavirusville

Its these idiots travelling everywhere that are spreading the virus.

1st, the chinese flood italy/europe/usa with their migrant workers and immigrants, that go back to china to visit family/friends and to celebrate their holidays, only to return with disease

2nd, the disease is in crowded cities.... KEEP IT THERE

YOU LIBERALS GET WHAT YOU DESERVE and funny how they want to run away from the monster THEY CREATED

Liberals enjoy their densification. We don't want their sickness out here in the sticks.

The other option is to turn the water on, and closed the town bordeers. Turn away anyone in a "HOT SPOT" or with a temperature, or with an out of state license plate... GIVE THEM A TASTE OF THEIR OWN MEDICINE

Hypocrites here are too funny





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