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Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes

 
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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
You naysayers are idiots, and I NEVER say that here on GLP.

This is America, and if I want to have 5 houses I CAN.

And if I pay my taxes you better turn on my water!

THEY WORK FOR US
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no. You are "THEY", unwanted by residents. Go Away you can't be trusted
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You naysayers are idiots, and I NEVER say that here on GLP.

This is America, and if I want to have 5 houses I CAN.

And if I pay my taxes you better turn on my water!

THEY WORK FOR US
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no. You are "THEY", unwanted by residents. Go Away you can't be trusted
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are they not turning on water in new houses built by bulders? how is that different? the builder doesn't live there.

oh, i see because builders have power in town.
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Please take note people of all these little dictators and vote their asses out!
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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
I can show up at my second house and declare it my new "primary residence".
I will be required to quarrantine myself for 14 days.
So I just bring two weeks worth of stuff.
Beats the city.
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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
I can show up at my second house and declare it my new "primary residence".
I will be required to quarrantine myself for 14 days.
So I just bring two weeks worth of stuff.
Beats the city.
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until they check your drivers license
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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
I can show up at my second house and declare it my new "primary residence".
I will be required to quarrantine myself for 14 days.
So I just bring two weeks worth of stuff.
Beats the city.
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After the water is on, I put up a big sign in the front warning people "Quarrantine Zone No Entry Or Exit For 14 Days From Today...COVID-19".
Then sit out back and drink the beer my neighbors gave me when I turned their water on too.
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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
That is awesome news! I hope they do it all over the country. Folks shouldn't be vacationing when we're in national state of emergency and or pandemic.

bingo-NI
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It’s not vacationing, it’s going to a property they own and pay taxes on

Which appears to keep the city afloat



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New Hampshire just extended stay at home orders until May 15th, and our governor is a Republican.

We have so many Massachusetts residents and people from other states coming up here, staying at their summer homes for a few days, hiking, shopping, etc, then they go home to their states for a few days.

They closed down trails at the White Mountains, and had some cryptic message saying two more people in NH died because of the virus, which is why they were shutting down some of those trails in the White Mountains. Makes no sense to me.
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surprising...

Let me guess, you are one of those who says two deaths in a state from an infections disease is nothing and that more people die in care accidents and we don't ban cars...or some such nonsense, right?!
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Salisbury = a show of total power and control over their
uneducated population.

they knew who they voted into office, so don't start
crying now, as they don't deserve any better.
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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
Please don't pay your taxes in Salisbury as a form of rebellion

I will happily buy your house at the next tax auction
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What he said.

My family visited for years. Stopped when the junkies needles and medical waste started washing up.

Riptides at Salisbury are downright nasty. Me and my cousin got yanked out and almost lost our lives at 7yo

Hampton Beach is right up the road anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22263566


If you own a home there and pay taxes you think this is fair?

No matter what the condition of the beach is, people pay taxes and have the right to running water
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Seasonal Homes, to be exact. That's what they are talking about. Let's get that straight from the start.

No, not fair, but the season is not open yet and town council is trying to dissuade folks from coming in so that the same thing that happened in Nantucket and parts of Cape Cod don't happen in Salisbury, which is a poor town to begin with.

By the time end of May rolls around they will start opening stuff.

Better to keep YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS safe than it is to cow tow to some ninny who thinks he is safe in his seasonal rental, No ???
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So they only pay taxes for when they open the seasonal homes ? GTFO ! s226
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He didn't say that you stewpid moran.
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What he said.

My family visited for years. Stopped when the junkies needles and medical waste started washing up.

Riptides at Salisbury are downright nasty. Me and my cousin got yanked out and almost lost our lives at 7yo

Hampton Beach is right up the road anyway.
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If you own a home there and pay taxes you think this is fair?

No matter what the condition of the beach is, people pay taxes and have the right to running water
 Quoting: ~kpm~


Seasonal Homes, to be exact. That's what they are talking about. Let's get that straight from the start.

No, not fair, but the season is not open yet and town council is trying to dissuade folks from coming in so that the same thing that happened in Nantucket and parts of Cape Cod don't happen in Salisbury, which is a poor town to begin with.

By the time end of May rolls around they will start opening stuff.

Better to keep YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS safe than it is to cow tow to some ninny who thinks he is safe in his seasonal rental, No ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22263566


No, IMO, if you own a house and pay taxes you should be able to occupy that home at any time you wish

If they have seasonal rules that homeowners have to follow, they should not restrict them

Homeowners should be asked to shelter in place upon arriving at their home

The risky groups should be the ones quarantined not the healthy
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They tried it on Cape Cod, Nantucket and P-Town.

Didn't work.

But, I will acquiesce. You win.
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If you own a home there and pay taxes you think this is fair?

No matter what the condition of the beach is, people pay taxes and have the right to running water
 Quoting: ~kpm~


Seasonal Homes, to be exact. That's what they are talking about. Let's get that straight from the start.

No, not fair, but the season is not open yet and town council is trying to dissuade folks from coming in so that the same thing that happened in Nantucket and parts of Cape Cod don't happen in Salisbury, which is a poor town to begin with.

By the time end of May rolls around they will start opening stuff.

Better to keep YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS safe than it is to cow tow to some ninny who thinks he is safe in his seasonal rental, No ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22263566


No, IMO, if you own a house and pay taxes you should be able to occupy that home at any time you wish

If they have seasonal rules that homeowners have to follow, they should not restrict them

Homeowners should be asked to shelter in place upon arriving at their home

The risky groups should be the ones quarantined not the healthy
 Quoting: ~kpm~


They tried it on Cape Cod, Nantucket and P-Town.

Didn't work.

But, I will acquiesce. You win.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22263566


It’s not about winning or losing, at this point we are all losing because of the shut down

We should all be allowed to live our lives as we see fit, if you want to stay sheltered until you feel safe then so be it, if others don’t feel the same way why shouldn’t they do what they feel is right?
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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
They elected their officials. They can elect different ones. Owners of beach homes and the business that feed and entertain them can vote for better officials next time.


In the meantime they can go to their beach homes to peacefully enjoy their private property and do whatever they can do to make the city turn their water on.

We elect our government. We aren’t ruled by them.
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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
Idiots will idiot.

Our town is shut down to tourists as well as people who have their second homes here.

A nice chunk of the population that is left is on some sort of corona welfare to pay their rent, and that number increases every month.

And the realtors are still trying to rent and sell over-inflated way overpriced second-home/vacation priced properties to us - the generally unamused captive audience who remain.

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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
Idiots will idiot.

Our town is shut down to tourists as well as people who have their second homes here.

A nice chunk of the population that is left is on some sort of corona welfare to pay their rent, and that number increases every month.

And the realtors are still trying to rent and sell over-inflated way overpriced second-home/vacation priced properties to us - the generally unamused captive audience who remain.
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I'd also mention that this is a town that can very quickly go wild west - and has within the past ten years. And that was just due to a minor blip in the economy compared to what we have going on right now.

Who is going to pay half a million to a couple million for a property here right now knowing it might be sitting in the middle of a violent, kidnapping community by next week?

This aint South Africa. We're not Boer.
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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
Do they Pay Taxes to that City whiles they are in Town?
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You pay property tax the whole fucking time you own the place. Sometimes extra tax for it being a rental type beach house.

This is fucking Taxachusetts. And I will never vote for Charlie Faker evahhhh.
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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
Don't forget that most of these places are set up for weekly rentals.
So a two story place will rent it out to two families every week.
2K to 3.5K per week vacation rental per unit.
So on the cheap side16K per month for two unit rental.
The owners are only loosing money and I don't give a crap for what they charge over the years. Boo Hoo.

You do not know who was there last. Infected or not. Then the demand on the grocery stores. The rental owners have no voting rights in this town. That is for where they live.

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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
Hundreds of folks looking to head to their summer homes in one Massachusetts beach town will likely find themselves without running water.

Officials in Salisbury are reportedly refusing to turn on water meters for more than 300 seasonal homes in an effort to keep residents homebound until the coronavirus pandemic subsides.



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Containing the spread of the coronavirus requires collective, unified action, but data on social distancing makes it clear this isn’t happening everywhere.

The question is why.

In what kinds of places are residents deciding to move about as if they are immune to the virus that has paralyzed much of the world?

What do they look like, and why are they ignoring the calls for social distancing?

To get some hints, I put together several sources of data from US counties focusing on economic and demographic characteristics, voting patterns, civic engagement and social capital, and even attitudes toward climate change from Yale’s Climate Change in the American Mind survey.


Analyzing the data reveals that social distancing behavior is related to education; to race and ethnicity; to political identity and social capital; and to the impact that this virus has already had on the residents of particular counties.

And the various sources of data also reveal a larger pattern.

One of the strongest and most robust predictors of social distancing behavior is found in attitudes toward another major challenge facing the United States: climate change.

Places where residents are less likely to agree that global warming is happening, that humans are the cause, and that we have an obligation to do something about it are the places where residents haven’t changed their behavior in response to coronavirus.

The analysis makes clear that we have a collective action problem much larger than Covid-19.


Other measures like the age profile of the county, the total size of the population, the racial and ethnic composition, and even the total number of confirmed cases of Covid-19 do not have a clear relationship with social distancing behavior. Different characteristics turn out to be much better predictors; the strongest predictors are shown in the chart above.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, politics and civic engagement bear a strong relationship to social distancing behavior. Higher levels of social capital — a combination of voter turnout in federal elections, response rates in the 2010 census, the number of associations and the number of nonprofits per capita — is associated with more social distancing.

By contrast, counties with the greatest share of votes for Trump in the 2016 election were least likely to practice social distancing. And the greater the share of residents who disagreed with the statement that global warming is happening, the worse the county’s grade received in the Social Distancing Scoreboard.

Social distancing grades rise with the level of social capital in a county, and grades fall with the percentage of the county voters who cast a ballot for Trump in 2016.


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They are tracking all of us

This website shows each states Stats and Grade for social distancing



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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
They elected their officials. They can elect different ones. Owners of beach homes and the business that feed and entertain them can vote for better officials next time.


In the meantime they can go to their beach homes to peacefully enjoy their private property and do whatever they can do to make the city turn their water on.

We elect our government. We aren’t ruled by them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72506340


Ah. Here is the glitch.

We elect them based on their lies.

This happens, THEY go full retard NAZI.

We can't wait for another election cycle for relief from
their draconian dictates.

So.

We have to do something NOW.
We need results NOW.

They are wrong, NOW.

They need to fear us more.

We the people are in charge, If, and only if we make damn
sure they know it.

I am not inciting violence.

But maybe THEY are.

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There are pvc and pipes for that
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What I have found out in life is that the utilities are assholes. If you turn your electric or water back on when it's been shut off or they will not connect you, first they put a "wire" on it. When you cut that off, they put a "lock" on it. If you cut off the "lock", you will no longer get any service from them without paying out the ass for it. And sometimes, they will not even allow you to pay for it at all and just cut you off. The utilities are not federal, state or locally owned in most places. They are commercial businesses that are just like any other business in that they will cut you off and not give you service anymore.

I've watched people (with children) freezing because of no heating even though there are laws against cutting off heating in the winter. Last frost date and you are cut off and if you haven't paid that bill by the next winter, they won't cut you back on until it's paid. Even if you have children. They don't have to. By law, they are not allowed to "cut you off" but if you are already "off", it's not their problem. LOL

Cheap bastards should have paid the small monthly fee to keep their meters in and paid someone a small monthly fee to go around and check on the place every so often to make sure there are no leaks and such going on, squatters. What's wrong with people? Cheap asses...
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A well, septic, and solar. Problem solved.
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Who knows ? There is more than likely an ordinance that says you can't have a well or drill for one.
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That really doesn't matter, its very easy to sink your own well with no one the wiser. You may not wish to drink it, but it can be used for laundry, showers, toilets etc.

A friend did it so he could ignore the no watering water restrictions in his city.

It can be done for less than $100 and a long day working.
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Re: Salisbury Massachusetts beach town won't turn water on at seasonal homes
They elected their officials. They can elect different ones. Owners of beach homes and the business that feed and entertain them can vote for better officials next time.


In the meantime they can go to their beach homes to peacefully enjoy their private property and do whatever they can do to make the city turn their water on.

We elect our government. We aren’t ruled by them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72506340


Ah. Here is the glitch.

We elect them based on their lies.

This happens, THEY go full retard NAZI.

We can't wait for another election cycle for relief from
their draconian dictates.

So.

We have to do something NOW.
We need results NOW.

They are wrong, NOW.

They need to fear us more.

We the people are in charge, If, and only if we make damn
sure they know it.

I am not inciting violence.

But maybe THEY are.

opie3
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We are headed in that direction!
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