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NunyaBizz
User ID: 77965898 United States 04/27/2020 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And with an 80%+ plus FALSE POSITIVE test rate, those numbers are less than meaningless. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77713712 [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] "Results: When the infection rate of the close contacts and the sensitivity and specificity of reported results were taken as the point estimates, the positive predictive value of the active screening was only 19.67%, in contrast, the false-positive rate of positive results was 80.33%. The multivariate-probabilistic sensitivity analysis results supported the base-case findings, with a 75% probability for the false-positive rate of positive results over 47%. Conclusions: In the close contacts of COVID-19 patients, nearly half or even more of the 'asymptomatic infected individuals' reported in the active nucleic acid test screening might be false positives. More false positive studies: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] [link to nccc.ucsf.edu (secure)] this is worth reposting for the hoax believers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77057233 United States 04/27/2020 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Quoting: I knew you could do it! 78775916 And almost 60,000 dead! Wow, go ahead and reopen the country. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76862206 United States 04/27/2020 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And with an 80%+ plus FALSE POSITIVE test rate, those numbers are less than meaningless. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77713712 [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] "Results: When the infection rate of the close contacts and the sensitivity and specificity of reported results were taken as the point estimates, the positive predictive value of the active screening was only 19.67%, in contrast, the false-positive rate of positive results was 80.33%. The multivariate-probabilistic sensitivity analysis results supported the base-case findings, with a 75% probability for the false-positive rate of positive results over 47%. Conclusions: In the close contacts of COVID-19 patients, nearly half or even more of the 'asymptomatic infected individuals' reported in the active nucleic acid test screening might be false positives. More false positive studies: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] [link to nccc.ucsf.edu (secure)] Thank you. A critical and not explored enough issue is THE TESTS and REPORTING / how they are counting the numbers of infected or dead. Anyone who supposedly has the virus (from tests that are not uniform and often have high false positives) and dies, is categorized as dead from the virus. Even if they die from heart attack, car accident, etc etc. The tests and counts stink to high heaven. What stinks more is that we cannot question anything. This is from a recent article (UK data, but same style of state machinations) [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Pertinent excerpt: Under normal circumstances, when someone dies, a person who knows them well, such as a family member, or someone who was physically close to the person at the time of death, is the qualified informant who can notify the registrar of the circumstances and non medical details of the death. That is not true for suspected C19 patients. For them a funeral director, who has almost certainly never met the deceased, can be the qualified informant. This places far more emphasis on the Medical Certificate of Cause of Death (MCCD) as registration can take place without any input from family or anyone else familiar with the circumstances of the death. Prior to the Coronavirus Act, the last attending doctor to the deceased had the responsibility to register the death. However, in the case of suspected C19 deaths, that duty can be discharged by a doctor who has never met the patient. The UK State guidance for C19 patients states: A doctor who attended the deceased during their last illness has a legal responsibility to complete a MCCD….. this duty may be discharged through another doctor who may complete an MCCD in an emergency period….In an emergency period, any doctor can complete the MCCD….For the purposes of the emergency period, the attendance may be in person, via video/visual consultation, but not audio (e.g. via telephone)….Where the certifying doctor has not seen the deceased before death they should delete the words last seen alive by me on. When an MCCD is completed the medical causes are listed sequentially with the immediate cause of death at the top and the underlying cause of death at the bottom of the list. For example, heart failure caused by pneumonia stemming from influenza would list the immediate cause of death as a heart attack and the underlying cause as influenza. That underlying cause is usually diagnosed through positive test results. It is crucial to understand that for C19 to be recorded on the MCCD, as the underlying cause of death, there does not need to be any test based diagnosis of the syndrome. Diagnosis can simply be from observation of symptoms or CT scans. The guidance to medical practitioners states: if before death the patient had symptoms typical of COVID 19 infection, but the test result has not been received, it would be satisfactory to give ‘COVID-19’ as the cause of death, tick Box B and then share the test result when it becomes available. In the circumstances of there being no swab, it is satisfactory to apply clinical judgement. Given this seeming lack of clarity, guidance from the Royal College of Pathologists (RCP) is also concerning. In circumstances where C19 is merely believed to be a factor they advise that there is no need for a post mortem. If a death is believed to be due to confirmed COVID-19 infection, there is unlikely to be any need for a post-mortem examination to be conducted and the Medical Certificate of Cause of Death should be issued.” Post-mortems are not standard procedure and are normally required only where the cause of death is unknown or where the circumstances appear suspicious. However, the recommendation of the RCP is another part of a systemic approach to C19 deaths which is inexplicably opaque. Even when a sample test is undertaken to identify C19, questions remain. The RT-PCR test commonly used to test for C19 does not appear to be very reliable, nor is it designed as a diagnostic tool for identifying viruses. A study from the Department of Microbiology, Queen Mary Hospital, University of Hong Kong found wild variations in RT-PCR accuracy. It was found to be between 22% – 80% reliable depending on how it was applied. This general unreliability has been confirmed by other studies. Further studies show clear discrepancies between RT-PCR test results and clinical indication from CT scans. Most of these studies indicate RT-PCR failure to detect C19 in symptomatic patients, so-called “false negative” tests. When Chinese researchers from the Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics School of Public Health conducted data analysis of the RT-PCR tests of asymptomatic patients they also found an 80% false positive rate. Having passed peer review and publication the paper was subsequently withdrawn for what seem quite bizarre reasons. It was removed from the scientific literature because it “depended on theoretical deduction.” The paper was not testing an experimental hypothesis, it was an epidemiological analysis of the available statistical data. All such statistical analysis relies upon theoretical deduction. The claimed reason for withdrawal suggests that all data analysis is now considered to be completely useless. It seems scientific claims that C19 numbers are underestimated are fine, claims they are overestimated are not. Either way, whether false negative or false positive, there is plenty of evidence to question the reliability of the RT-PCR test for diagnosing COVID 19. The MSM has suggested that enhanced RT-PCR testing can detect the virus SARS-CoV-2 and, in particular, the amount of it in the patient’s system, the viral load. This is disinformation. The Nobel winning scientist who devised PCR, Karry Mullis, speaking about the use of PCR to detect HIV stated: Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron. PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers [viral load]…These tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all…The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.” Reported C19 deaths can be registered without a test clearly diagnosing any coronavirus, let alone C19. The death can be signed off by a doctor who has never seen the patient and can then be registered by someone who has never met the deceased and was nowhere near them when they died. Further provision in the Coronavirus Act then allows for the body to be cremated, potentially against the family’s wishes, ensuring a confirmatory autopsy is impossible, though it is unlikely one will be conducted anyway. To say this raises questions about the official reported statistics is an understatement. Questions in no way allege either medical malpractice or negligence. Neither are required for significant confusion to occur because the potential for widespread misreporting of causes of death seems to be a core element of the C19 MCCD process the State has constructed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78107014 Canada 04/27/2020 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Quoting: I knew you could do it! 78775916 And almost 60,000 dead! Wow, go ahead and reopen the country. America #1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78846565 Canada 04/27/2020 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Conspiracy numbers. 1. 5G carries nano-robots that spread through the air causing massive super flu to spread. 2. Depopulation of the world by the elite. 3. New Jerusalem Calendar. 4. They didn't want Trump impeached so they hoaxered a false flag and forced us into quarantine. 5. They want Donald Trump re-elected in and made his second term a victory by default. 6. ORANGE MAN BAD. 7. PEDO BIDEN BAD. 8. Owner of GLP suddenly switching pro Trump to anti-Trump. What's your excuses? Let's pick one and be done with it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78646202 United States 04/27/2020 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Quoting: I knew you could do it! 78775916 And almost 60,000 dead! Wow, go ahead and reopen the country. What do you expect since they call all deaths covid 19 now! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78835939 United States 04/27/2020 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Quoting: I knew you could do it! 78775916 And almost 60,000 dead! Wow, go ahead and reopen the country. you are one gullible northerner. sheep sheep blind gullible sheep |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73641902 United States 04/27/2020 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Quoting: I knew you could do it! 78775916 And almost 60,000 dead! Wow, go ahead and reopen the country. So, what your saying is that by population we are 14th in cases and 19th in deaths compared to the rest of the world. What is your point? |
boutreality
User ID: 78257745 United States 04/27/2020 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get the TV and your handheld screen are so warm and cuddly and they always assure you you're right. -The younger you are the worse it can be, and people who just don't "seize" some measure of their own free will live and dies remaining in that same boat. People not in that boat listen to science. (Vid about what the medical establishment science did to a 30+ year medical research Doctor- the "medical establishment" is who Op is quoting -and what a thread-specific covenient UN OP chose). 1h (timestamps soon) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] And: 51m55s [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] -That's just a pair of ER doctors, lifetime professionals who made career out of treating people medically, but hey, OP here has a phone, so... (neither vid will post. But they did post in replies to this thread): Thread: BIO WEAPON COVID -19 "Stolen from Canadian BIO Facility & Weaponized" -so check the timestamps at the first vid in replies there Last Edited by boutreality on 04/27/2020 06:13 PM A New Gnosis |
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User ID: 75948321 United States 04/27/2020 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
Penny Peppers
User ID: 74562294 United States 04/27/2020 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya missed the point didnt you? 60 thou dead is nothing. If this was a REAL virus that did REAL doom.. There.would be 6 million dead by now. But its been.months and only 60 g. Ive seen cat flu do worse in feline populations. Wtf? Closed the world down for a disease thats.only 10% as deadly as malaria. This There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist... Oh, and Biden can't dress himself.... |
Penny Peppers
User ID: 74562294 United States 04/27/2020 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHO FUCKING CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75058461 60.8 million GOT INFECTED WITH H1N1 IN 2009 HOW DUMB ARE YOU????????????? N1H1 was not a Bioweapon Pretty lame bio weapon There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist... Oh, and Biden can't dress himself.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73001279 United States 04/27/2020 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That’s 60,000 dead (and many believe the number is much higher, actually) with most following fairly strict social distancing and shelter in place recommendations. The question is what would the number have been without them? |
boutreality
User ID: 78257745 United States 04/27/2020 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHO FUCKING CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75058461 60.8 million GOT INFECTED WITH H1N1 IN 2009 HOW DUMB ARE YOU????????????? N1H1 was not a Bioweapon Pretty lame bio weapon IGNORING THE FACTS OF IMMUNOLOGY, Following the a PRE-emptive QUARANTINE for the HEALTHY??!!! IS NOT MEDICINE. The tacts is: give us a reason. This is how they've used it. That makes it a BIO-Weapon, by design or for its use in SOCIAL ENGINEERING, that's its purpose. Last Edited by boutreality on 04/27/2020 06:17 PM A New Gnosis |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78401835 United States 04/27/2020 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And with an 80%+ plus FALSE POSITIVE test rate, those numbers are less than meaningless. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77713712 [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] "Results: When the infection rate of the close contacts and the sensitivity and specificity of reported results were taken as the point estimates, the positive predictive value of the active screening was only 19.67%, in contrast, the false-positive rate of positive results was 80.33%. The multivariate-probabilistic sensitivity analysis results supported the base-case findings, with a 75% probability for the false-positive rate of positive results over 47%. Conclusions: In the close contacts of COVID-19 patients, nearly half or even more of the 'asymptomatic infected individuals' reported in the active nucleic acid test screening might be false positives. More false positive studies: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] [link to nccc.ucsf.edu (secure)] this is worth reposting for the hoax believers. Public Release: 19-Oct-2009 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77427786 Carol Baker appointed chair of national CDC advisory committee on immunization practices [link to www.eurekalert.org (secure)] Thread: Yay! WHITE GENOCIDE! Here is the head of a CDC steering commitee that shapes vaccine policy. She's preaching the extermination of all whites & "vaccine refusers" in America. Racial-eugenics anyone? Thread: The REAL Victims of Coronahoax - 100 MURDERED ANTI-VAXX DOCTORS Thought I'd share this for you people who trust your media & gubmint. Take a look at that 1 minute video & see what the architects of vaccines & coronahoax think about you. Go on, I dare you. |
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boutreality
User ID: 78257745 United States 04/27/2020 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That’s 60,000 dead (and many believe the number is much higher, actually) with most following fairly strict social distancing and shelter in place recommendations. The question is what would the number have been without them? PROBABLY LOWER: Both measures refuse the facts of what it takes for person to maintain a strong immune system. Our immune system is our first defense for everything, the "biological imperative" is to remain living, and it strengthens and maintains itself in CONSTANT EXPOSURE to what it mus protect the body from -Immunology 101 (That means everyday life, as messy and crowded as it can be, optimizes immunological integrity.) I'm not a doctor, I can say these things, check the vids featuring Doctors. They could be -depending on their state, at risk of losing their license. AND it's all valid, "College level Biology" information. Last Edited by boutreality on 04/27/2020 11:58 PM A New Gnosis |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78702359 United States 04/27/2020 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya missed the point didnt you? 60 thou dead is nothing. If this was a REAL virus that did REAL doom.. There.would be 6 million dead by now. But its been.months and only 60 g. Ive seen cat flu do worse in feline populations. Wtf? Closed the world down for a disease thats.only 10% as deadly as malaria. Good lord , the whole globe basically came to a stand still for 6 weeks. Hence the lowered number of deaths.. Let’s imagine the rat race around the world continued. The virus would have spread like wild fire... Think forest fires, for you, you can’t let it get out of control, it you also need to have controlled burned sections to ensure a wide spread fire does not go out of control... I do believe places need to re open and let the culling affect happen on the weak, pre existing conditions and elderly to eliminate potential future spreaders, If everything kept closed, these people above, the deaths would be spread out over time, and covid would be more deadly to others. Open up slowly, the weak will die during the first few waves. And then the deaths would slow down.. Can you give us a personal demonstration on yourself how the weak will die? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78739479 United States 04/27/2020 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doctors and nurses should be able to reject treating patients who ignore stay-at-home orders and advocate for reopening. Any dumbass who runs around calling this a hoax, without even a mask should not be able to take a bed or get treated. Let all of the dumb fucks die off, have beds for those that need it... problem solved and the gene pool cleared. |
Magnus74 User ID: 77070158 United States 04/27/2020 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Quoting: I knew you could do it! 78775916 And almost 60,000 dead! Wow, go ahead and reopen the country. I was a Trump supporter until this lockdown and it’s clear to see that it’s mostly pro Trump states/Republican governors who are ignoring warnings to test in mass, and they are going to re-expose the public to the virus. Jesus, we’re so fucked. Commie Shill |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78401835 United States 04/27/2020 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That’s 60,000 dead (and many believe the number is much higher, actually) with most following fairly strict social distancing and shelter in place recommendations. The question is what would the number have been without them? PROBABLY LOWER: Both measures refuse the facts of what it takes for person to maintain a strong immune system. Our immune system is our first defense for everything, the "biological imperative" is to remain living, and it strengthen and maintains itself in CONSTANT EXPOSURE to what it mus protect the body from -Immunology 101 (I'm not a doctor, I can say these things, check the vids featuring Doctors, like the second vid linked to in a previous reply here (use "up" arrow in the reply box.) Exactly!! My entire family is anti-vaxx & has been for 30+ years. Aside from myself they're all in the medical profession. We subscribe the old school medical philosophy that existed before racial-eugenics became the core of Western Medicine. We live & eat healthy. None of us ever gets sick. No cancer, no diabetes, nothing. Maybe the occasional bout with a flu or whatnot, but recovery is quick. We learned our lesson on vaccines a long time ago. |
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