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User ID: 77237285 United States 05/24/2020 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | e] Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 ...so what's this... a different gospel/message? I thought GOD didn't change... which is it? God's nature doesn't change. But yet throughout the Old Testament, Father God does introduce NEW things....and even is willing to listen to a human once in a while. "Father God does introduce NEW things" "exactly what he did with Paul... gave us Christianity over Judism... one gospel dipshit Galatians 2:7 "But contrariwise, when they saw that the Gospel over the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the Gospel over the circumcision was unto Peter" one gospel to the circumcision... Judis*m one gospel to the uncircumcision...Christianity your pride and disobedience has blinded you to truth, your arrogance will keep you from it.. Last Edited by freedomsnotfree1 on 05/24/2020 05:11 PM freedomsnotfree1 |
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User ID: 78023456 United States 05/24/2020 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD God's nature doesn't change. But yet throughout the Old Testament, Father God does introduce NEW things....and even is willing to listen to a human once in a while. "Father God does introduce NEW things" "exactly what he did with Paul... gave us Christianity over Judism... one gospel dipshit Galatians 2:7 "But contrariwise, when they saw that the Gospel over the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the Gospel over the circumcision was unto Peter" one gospel to the circumcision... Judis*m one gospel to the uncircumcision...Christianity your pride and disobedience has blinded you to the truth, you arrogance will keep you from it.. That is because the 2nd word gospel does not exist. When they saw that the gospel to the uncircumcision was to me and the circumcision to Peter. Look it up it does not exist in the originals. Only one time is the word gospel is used. The 2nd time was added by translators and is usually bracketed or indexed. Last Edited by Achduke7 on 05/24/2020 05:22 PM Achduke |
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User ID: 77237285 United States 05/24/2020 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 "Father God does introduce NEW things" "exactly what he did with Paul... gave us Christianity over Judism... one gospel dipshit Galatians 2:7 "But contrariwise, when they saw that the Gospel over the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the Gospel over the circumcision was unto Peter" one gospel to the circumcision... Judis*m one gospel to the uncircumcision...Christianity your pride and disobedience has blinded you to the truth, you arrogance will keep you from it.. That is because the 2nd word gospel does not exist. When they saw that the gospel to the uncircumcision was to me and the circumcision to Peter. Look it up it does not exist in the originals. Only one time is the word gosoel is used. The 2nd time was added by translators and is usually bracketed or indexed. nice try... your version says the same thing... learn english and go argue with the translators ... don't take the mark OR eat pork... Last Edited by freedomsnotfree1 on 05/24/2020 05:28 PM freedomsnotfree1 |
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User ID: 78023456 United States 05/24/2020 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Galatians 2:7 "But contrariwise, when they saw that the Gospel over the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the Gospel over the circumcision was unto Peter" one gospel to the circumcision... Judis*m one gospel to the uncircumcision...Christianity your pride and disobedience has blinded you to the truth, you arrogance will keep you from it.. That is because the 2nd word gospel does not exist. When they saw that the gospel to the uncircumcision was to me and the circumcision to Peter. Look it up it does not exist in the originals. Only one time is the word gosoel is used. The 2nd time was added by translators and is usually bracketed or indexed. nice try... it says the same... learn english, it was translated because thats what it means ... and don't take the mark OR eat pork... I read English very well. NIV On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcis*d, just as Peter had been to the circumcis*d. NLT Instead, they saw that God had given me the responsibility of preaching the gospel to the Gentiles, just as he had given Peter the responsibility of preaching to the Je*ws. ESV On the contrary, when they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcis*d, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel to the circumcis*d Berean On the contrary, they saw that I had been entrusted to preach the gospel to the uncircumcis*d, just as Peter had been to the circumcis*d. KJV But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; KJV added the 2nd word gospel. It does not exist in the original greek. It is the translators. Most of the bibles do not add it because it does not exist and changes the meaning completely like KJV did. Here is the Greek. alla tounantion idontes hoti pepisteumai to euangelion tes akrobystiasm kathos Petros tes peritomes Word for Word translation. But contrary seen entrusted the gospel the uncircumcis*d as Peter the circumcis*d The word euangelion is Gospel and it is only used once in Gal 2:7. There are not 2 gospels. Both Peter and Paul preached the Gospel or the Good News. Paul preached to the uncircumcis*d and Peter to the circumcis*d but originally before Paul was saved Peter was preaching to the gentiles. Last Edited by Achduke7 on 05/24/2020 05:54 PM Achduke |
freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77237285 United States 05/24/2020 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 Galatians 2:7 "But contrariwise, when they saw that the Gospel over the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the Gospel over the circumcision was unto Peter" one gospel to the circumcision... Judis*m one gospel to the uncircumcision...Christianity your pride and disobedience has blinded you to the truth, you arrogance will keep you from it.. That is because the 2nd word gospel does not exist. When they saw that the gospel to the uncircumcision was to me and the circumcision to Peter. Look it up it does not exist in the originals. Only one time is the word gosoel is used. The 2nd time was added by translators and is usually bracketed or indexed. nice try... it says the same... learn english, it was translated because thats what it means ... and don't take the mark OR eat pork... I read English very well. NIV On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcis*d, just as Peter had been to the circumcis*d. NLT Instead, they saw that God had given me the responsibility of preaching the gospel to the Gentiles, just as he had given Peter the responsibility of preaching to the Je*ws. ESV On the contrary, when they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcis*d, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel to the circumcis*d Berean On the contrary, they saw that I had been entrusted to preach the gospel to the uncircumcis*d, just as Peter had been to the circumcis*d. KJV But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; KJV added the 2nd word gospel. It does not exist in the original greek. It is the translators. Most of the bibles do not add it because it does not exist and changes the meaning completely like KJV did. Here is the Greek. alla tounantion idontes hoti pepisteumai to euangelion tes akrobystiasm kathos Petros tes peritomes Word for Word translation. But contrary seen entrusted the gospel the uncircumcis*d as Peter the circumcis*d The word euangelion is Gospel and it is only used once in Gal 2:7. There is not 2 gospels. Both Peter and Paul preached the Gospel or the Good News. Paul preached to the uncircumcis*d and Peter to the circumcis*d but originally before Paul was saved Peter was preaching to the gentiles. Peter knew absolutely nothing of Pauls message of salvation through grace alone, Peter he was a devote J*w, practicing Judis*m, keeping the law, going to temple... only Paul was given this message... Ephensians 3:2 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God, which is given me to youward, 3 That is, that God by revelation hath showed this mystery unto me (as I wrote above in few words, 4 Whereby when ye read, ye may know mine understanding in the mystery of Christ 5 Which in other ages was not opened unto the sons of men, freedomsnotfree1 |
Achduke7
User ID: 78023456 United States 05/24/2020 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 That is because the 2nd word gospel does not exist. When they saw that the gospel to the uncircumcision was to me and the circumcision to Peter. Look it up it does not exist in the originals. Only one time is the word gosoel is used. The 2nd time was added by translators and is usually bracketed or indexed. nice try... it says the same... learn english, it was translated because thats what it means ... and don't take the mark OR eat pork... I read English very well. NIV On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcis*d, just as Peter had been to the circumcis*d. NLT Instead, they saw that God had given me the responsibility of preaching the gospel to the Gentiles, just as he had given Peter the responsibility of preaching to the Je*ws. ESV On the contrary, when they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcis*d, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel to the circumcis*d Berean On the contrary, they saw that I had been entrusted to preach the gospel to the uncircumcis*d, just as Peter had been to the circumcis*d. KJV But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; KJV added the 2nd word gospel. It does not exist in the original greek. It is the translators. Most of the bibles do not add it because it does not exist and changes the meaning completely like KJV did. Here is the Greek. alla tounantion idontes hoti pepisteumai to euangelion tes akrobystiasm kathos Petros tes peritomes Word for Word translation. But contrary seen entrusted the gospel the uncircumcis*d as Peter the circumcis*d The word euangelion is Gospel and it is only used once in Gal 2:7. There is not 2 gospels. Both Peter and Paul preached the Gospel or the Good News. Paul preached to the uncircumcis*d and Peter to the circumcis*d but originally before Paul was saved Peter was preaching to the gentiles. Peter knew absolutely nothing of Pauls message of salvation through grace alone, Peter he was a devote J*w, practicing Judis*m, keeping the law, going to temple... only Paul was given this message... Ephensians 3:2 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God, which is given me to youward, 3 That is, that God by revelation hath showed this mystery unto me (as I wrote above in few words, 4 Whereby when ye read, ye may know mine understanding in the mystery of Christ 5 Which in other ages was not opened unto the sons of men, Act 15:7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. Act 15:11 "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they." 1Pe 1:9 receiving the end of your faith--the salvation of your souls. 1Pe 1:10 Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, Joh 1:17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Maybe you should read what you posted and listen to Paul. Eph 3:5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: Apostles is plural and would include Peter and the other Apostles. Last Edited by Achduke7 on 05/24/2020 06:21 PM Achduke |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78949961 United States 05/24/2020 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Peter knew absolutely nothing of Pauls message of salvation through grace alone, Peter he was a devote J*w, practicing Judis*m, keeping the law, going to temple... only Paul was given this message... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 Ephensians 3:2 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God, which is given me to youward, 3 That is, that God by revelation hath showed this mystery unto me (as I wrote above in few words, 4 Whereby when ye read, ye may know mine understanding in the mystery of Christ 5 Which in other ages was not opened unto the sons of men, IF you READ the OTHER books of the New Testament instead of being up Paul's arse - you would KNOW things then. ALL you ever do is quote Paul. He's ONLY one of the Apostles. WHY did Barnabas BRING Paul to Jerusalem the first time? WHY did the Apostles SEND Barnabas TO Paul AFTER Peter had his "circumcision" experience? WHY do you suppose that Paul went back to Jerusalem after EVERY trip he made? |
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(OP) User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom 05/24/2020 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | KJV added the 2nd word gospel. It does not exist in the original greek. It is the translators. Most of the bibles do not add it because it does not exist and changes the meaning completely like KJV did. Quoting: Achduke7 Here is the Greek. alla tounantion idontes hoti pepisteumai to euangelion tes akrobystiasm kathos Petros tes peritomes Word for Word translation. But contrary seen entrusted the gospel the uncircumcis*d as Peter the circumcis*d The word euangelion is Gospel and it is only used once in Gal 2:7. There are not 2 gospels. Both Peter and Paul preached the Gospel or the Good News. Paul preached to the uncircumcis*d and Peter to the circumcis*d but originally before Paul was saved Peter was preaching to the gentiles. BLOODY WELL PAY ATTENTION Archduke 7. So what has all this pseudo intellectual rubbish got to do with anything. The fact is that this is my thread and the rules are that 1 The King James Authorised Version is the gold standard. 2 If there is some alleged mistake in translation from the Greek or whatever...tough luck, you will just have to live with it. The fate of peoples souls is at stake and time is short. All you are doing is grandstanding and adding confusion under the guise of "being helpful." There is going to be a rapture so if you think differently then go and start your own thread, I'm getting depressed reading all this never ending crap. |
Lord Of Tribulation User ID: 78937358 United Kingdom 05/24/2020 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny you said that, for your soul had been raptured and a sinner of slave. Let Him be Judge of what you are, for He has certainty in which there is no doubt, because it rests on Certainty so great that doubt is meaningless before Its face. Christ cannot doubt Himself. The Voice of God can only honor Him, rejoicing in His perfect, everlasting sinlessness. Whom He has judged can only laugh at guilt, unwilling now to play with toys of sin; unheeding of the body’s witnesses before the rapture of His holy face. Lord Jesus in A Course In Miracle |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78950470 United States 05/24/2020 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD Scriptural FACTS. 1. In Acts 9, Barnabas took Paul to Jerusalem specifically to see if he was on the SAME PAGE as Peter and the rest of the Apostles. A. (Paul speaking) Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the J'e-ws, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. 2. Jesus tells the Apostles that "THE Gospel" is to be preached to ALL the world. NOT "the GOSPELS" (plural - more than one). AND Jesus TOLD them to go to "all the world" -(Matthew 28:19). They taught to some of the same Gentiles as Paul did. A...Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations. B...Mark 14:9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also thnopehe hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her. C...Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. D...Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. E...Luke 9:6 And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where. F. (Jesus speaking) Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 3. Revelation it's referred to as "the everlasting Gospel". ONE Gospel - not plural gospels. Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 4 Jesus main mission was to Israel, but yet He didn't refuse Gentiles. SAME Gospel to the Gentiles as to the Hebrews. ...the Centurian ...the Caananite woman / "bread crumbs from the table" ...the Samaritans are Judi*sm and Christianity the same thing... yes/no No, Jud*ism is false. Christ pointed that out. The Torah is true but they were not following it. so GOD gave Moses a false teaching? The Law finds YOU Guilty. The Prophets point to YOUR Solution - The Messiah The Holy One of Israel Jesus Christ Yeshua HaMashiach. |
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freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77237285 United States 05/25/2020 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Peter knew absolutely nothing of Pauls message of salvation through grace alone, Peter he was a devote J*w, practicing Judis*m, keeping the law, going to temple... only Paul was given this message... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 Ephensians 3:2 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God, which is given me to youward, 3 That is, that God by revelation hath showed this mystery unto me (as I wrote above in few words, 4 Whereby when ye read, ye may know mine understanding in the mystery of Christ 5 Which in other ages was not opened unto the sons of men, IF you READ the OTHER books of the New Testament instead of being up Paul's arse - you would KNOW things then. ALL you ever do is quote Paul. He's ONLY one of the Apostles. WHY did Barnabas BRING Paul to Jerusalem the first time? WHY did the Apostles SEND Barnabas TO Paul AFTER Peter had his "circumcision" experience? WHY do you suppose that Paul went back to Jerusalem after EVERY trip he made? How did Jesus teach death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sin when he hadn't even died? freedomsnotfree1 |
freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77237285 United States 05/25/2020 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe you should read what you posted and listen to Paul. Quoting: Achduke7 Eph 3:5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: Apostles is plural and would include Peter and the other Apostles. Other translations [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] How about this. KJV Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism. He could have easily said ONE Gospel too. so Jesus taught death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sin while he still walked the earth practicing Jud*sm... is that right? freedomsnotfree1 |
freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77237285 United States 05/25/2020 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Peter knew absolutely nothing of Pauls message of salvation through grace alone, Peter he was a devote J*w, practicing Judis*m, keeping the law, going to temple... only Paul was given this message... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 Ephensians 3:2 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God, which is given me to youward, 3 That is, that God by revelation hath showed this mystery unto me (as I wrote above in few words, 4 Whereby when ye read, ye may know mine understanding in the mystery of Christ 5 Which in other ages was not opened unto the sons of men, IF you READ the OTHER books of the New Testament instead of being up Paul's arse - you would KNOW things then. ALL you ever do is quote Paul. He's ONLY one of the Apostles. There's no question that Paul was a far more prolific writer than the other Apostles. At the same time, by the time the Bible was put together, at least 75% of Christians were former pagan Gentiles. To show the other Apostles that Paul was preaching the SAME Gospel. WHY did the Apostles SEND Barnabas TO Paul AFTER Peter had his "circumcision" experience? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78949961 So that Paul would KNOW that circumcision wasn't necessary anymore. WHY do you suppose that Paul went back to Jerusalem after EVERY trip he made? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78949961 To compare notes and to attend Hebrew holidays. ... and yes, I go to Paul for instruction because GOD sent him to me... why don't you do as GOD says...? If you did, maybe you'd know these things and not be so blinded... Last Edited by freedomsnotfree1 on 05/25/2020 07:47 AM freedomsnotfree1 |
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User ID: 77237285 United States 05/25/2020 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe you should read what you posted and listen to Paul. Quoting: Achduke7 Eph 3:5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: Apostles is plural and would include Peter and the other Apostles. Other translations [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] How about this. KJV Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism. He could have easily said ONE Gospel too. How could Jesus teach the 12 about Christianity when he hadn't even died. Death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sin is the cornerstone of Christian faith... how did Jesus teach this to Israel when it hadn't even happened yet...? Paul didn't come into the picture until AFTER his death... Last Edited by freedomsnotfree1 on 05/25/2020 08:31 AM freedomsnotfree1 |
Achduke7
User ID: 78023456 United States 05/25/2020 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe you should read what you posted and listen to Paul. Quoting: Achduke7 Eph 3:5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: Apostles is plural and would include Peter and the other Apostles. Other translations [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] How about this. KJV Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism. He could have easily said ONE Gospel too. so Jesus taught death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sin while he still walked the earth practicing Jud*sm... is that right? Yes He did. The gospels are great. Kids we have it all before Paul arrives on the seen. Joh 3:15 "that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Joh 3:17 "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Joh 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. Joh 6:40 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day." Joh 6:51 "I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world." Joh 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. Joh 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! Mat 20:28 "just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mar 10:45 "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mat 16:21 From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Mar 8:31 And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. Luk 9:22 saying, "The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day." Achduke |
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User ID: 77237285 United States 05/25/2020 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe you should read what you posted and listen to Paul. Quoting: Achduke7 Eph 3:5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: Apostles is plural and would include Peter and the other Apostles. Other translations [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] How about this. KJV Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism. He could have easily said ONE Gospel too. so Jesus taught death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sin while he still walked the earth practicing Jud*sm... is that right? Yes He did. The gospels are great. Kids we have it all before Paul arrives on the seen. Joh 3:15 "that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Joh 3:17 "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Joh 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. Joh 6:40 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day." Joh 6:51 "I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world." Joh 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. Joh 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! Mat 20:28 "just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mar 10:45 "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mat 16:21 From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Mar 8:31 And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. Luk 9:22 saying, "The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day." ...so Jesus came to the 12 and told them him came into the world, died for there sins, and rose again on the 3rd day for the remission of their sin.... years before any of it would happen... is that what you think...? Last Edited by freedomsnotfree1 on 05/25/2020 11:37 AM freedomsnotfree1 |
Achduke7
User ID: 78023456 United States 05/25/2020 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD Other translations [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] How about this. KJV Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism. He could have easily said ONE Gospel too. so Jesus taught death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sin while he still walked the earth practicing Jud*sm... is that right? Yes He did. The gospels are great. Kids we have it all before Paul arrives on the seen. Joh 3:15 "that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Joh 3:17 "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Joh 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. Joh 6:40 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day." Joh 6:51 "I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world." Joh 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. Joh 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! Mat 20:28 "just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mar 10:45 "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mat 16:21 From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Mar 8:31 And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. Luk 9:22 saying, "The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day." ...so Jesus came to the 12 and told them him came into the world, died for there sins, and rose again on the 3rd day for the remission of their sin.... years before any of it would happen...? That is what the gospel says. He told them more and more through out his ministry and even more just before he was crucified. They did not understand it all until after his death but then they received the Holy Spirit who taught them everything. Luke 24:44-47 44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. 45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, 46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it beloved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Last Edited by Achduke7 on 05/25/2020 12:11 PM Achduke |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78952632 05/25/2020 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | KJV added the 2nd word gospel. It does not exist in the original greek. It is the translators. Most of the bibles do not add it because it does not exist and changes the meaning completely like KJV did. Quoting: Achduke7 Here is the Greek. alla tounantion idontes hoti pepisteumai to euangelion tes akrobystiasm kathos Petros tes peritomes Word for Word translation. But contrary seen entrusted the gospel the uncircumcis*d as Peter the circumcis*d The word euangelion is Gospel and it is only used once in Gal 2:7. There are not 2 gospels. Both Peter and Paul preached the Gospel or the Good News. Paul preached to the uncircumcis*d and Peter to the circumcis*d but originally before Paul was saved Peter was preaching to the gentiles. BLOODY WELL PAY ATTENTION Archduke 7. :counter: So what has all this pseudo intellectual rubbish got to do with anything. The fact is that this is my thread and the rules are that 1 The King James Authorised Version is the gold standard. 2 If there is some alleged mistake in translation from the Greek or whatever...tough luck, you will just have to live with it. The fate of peoples souls is at stake and time is short. All you are doing is grandstanding and adding confusion under the guise of "being helpful." There is going to be a rapture so if you think differently then go and start your own thread, I'm getting depressed reading all this never ending crap. It is your opinion that KJV is the gold standard, not fact. Others would disagree. |
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User ID: 26416680 United States 05/25/2020 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe you should read what you posted and listen to Paul. Quoting: Achduke7 Eph 3:5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: Apostles is plural and would include Peter and the other Apostles. Other translations [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] How about this. KJV Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism. He could have easily said ONE Gospel too. so Jesus taught death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sin while he still walked the earth practicing Jud*sm... is that right? HOW???? Because He's the SON OF God - GIVEN the plans AHEAD of time by the Father. He ALSO had the prophecies stated by past prophets - given to THEM by the Father. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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Achduke7
User ID: 76733205 United States 05/25/2020 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe you should read what you posted and listen to Paul. Quoting: Achduke7 Eph 3:5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: Apostles is plural and would include Peter and the other Apostles. Other translations [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] How about this. KJV Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism. He could have easily said ONE Gospel too. so Jesus taught death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sin while he still walked the earth practicing Jud*sm... is that right? HOW???? Because He's the SON OF God - GIVEN the plans AHEAD of time by the Father. He ALSO had the prophecies stated by past prophets - given to THEM by the Father. It is like they believe Christ was a regular man and also it is like they believe the Apostles did not have the Holy Spirit. Lastly back onto this Rapture debate. I am not sure they believe God can protect us during the tribulation. They are worried about some tribulation but God protected Israel during Egypt, Sanai and the wilderness along with Daniel and his companions and so many other events and people. With God anything is possible. The tribulation is not God's wrath! Last Edited by Achduke7 on 05/25/2020 01:23 PM Achduke |
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User ID: 26416680 United States 05/25/2020 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...so Jesus came to the 12 and told them him came into the world, died for there sins, and rose again on the 3rd day for the remission of their sin.... years before any of it would happen... is that what you think...? Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 You act like Paul is the only one who mentions the "remission of sin"????? Idiot. Look at ALL the verses with "remission" in them. [link to www.blueletterbible.org (secure)] "remission" occurs 10 times in 10 verses in the New Testament in the KJV. Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Mark 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. Luke 1:77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins, Luke 3:3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins; Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 10:43 (Peter speaking) To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. Hebrews 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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