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Servant-of-the-LORD
 User ID: 79000379  United States06/06/2020 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about YOU go and read the first 6 Chapters of Acts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79000379 YEARS BEFORE Paul preached a single WORD.  how bout you show me where Peter talks about the body of christ... or where Peter opens up a church with pastors, deacons and bishops, like Paul... he's still going to temple, with rabbi's and priests... Are you REALLY this stiff-necked? Body of Christ = Believers = Followers = disciples. "Neither Hebrew NOR Greek". I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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| freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77922969 United States06/06/2020 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77237285 Peter and John were preaching that the J*ws had just killed their long awaited king and messiah ... that's a very different message from Paul's...that he came and died for our sins... After the resurrection of Christ and upon receiving the Holy Spirit they preached this very message. That Christ came and died for their sins and for the sins of the world. This was while Paul was still persecuting everyone. got scripture for that... Paul tells us HE was given this dispensation of grace to bring to the world, like Moses brought the J*ws the law and church structure, Paul brought in this period of grace, apart from the temple, rabbi's, the law, and all the requirements that go along with Judi*m... "For this cause, I Paul am the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles. If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God, which is given me to youward, That is, that God by revelation hath showed this mystery unto me (as I wrote above in few words, Whereby when ye read, ye may know mine understanding in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not opened unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy Apostles and Prophets by the Spirit, I gave you scripture on pg 24 of this very thread. Perhaps you did not read it. Act 15:7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. Act 15:11 "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they." 1Pe 1:9 receiving the end of your faith--the salvation of your souls. 1Pe 1:10 Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, Joh 1:17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Here is what Paul said on the matter. Eph 3:5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: Apostles is plural and would include Peter and the other Apostles. Now for Death, Burial, Resurrection. Joh 3:15 "that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Joh 3:17 "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Joh 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. Joh 6:40 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day." Joh 6:51 "I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world." Joh 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. Joh 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! Mat 20:28 "just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mar 10:45 "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mat 16:21 From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Mar 8:31 And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. Luk 9:22 saying, "The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day." Peter was NOT a Christian, he was a Messan*c J*W, under all the laws, feast days, temple worship ect... he was saved by believing Jesus WAS the son of GOD, as were ALL those Peter preached to and believed. That was Peter's message and they were saved by believing, and a few were, as you mentioned, but out of a nation of 7 million, very few... certainly not a "nation of priests"... they rejected the priesthood than GOD sends the world Paul... apart from the priesthood, laws and rules... it's ALL grace today... PRAISE GOD! ... the gospel of the circumcision and the gospel of the uncircumcision... Last Edited by freedomsnotfree1 on 06/06/2020 08:24 PM freedomsnotfree1 |
| Achduke7
User ID: 78023456 United States06/06/2020 08:33 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 After the resurrection of Christ and upon receiving the Holy Spirit they preached this very message. That Christ came and died for their sins and for the sins of the world. This was while Paul was still persecuting everyone. got scripture for that... Paul tells us HE was given this dispensation of grace to bring to the world, like Moses brought the J*ws the law and church structure, Paul brought in this period of grace, apart from the temple, rabbi's, the law, and all the requirements that go along with Judi*m... "For this cause, I Paul am the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles. If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God, which is given me to youward, That is, that God by revelation hath showed this mystery unto me (as I wrote above in few words, Whereby when ye read, ye may know mine understanding in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not opened unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy Apostles and Prophets by the Spirit, I gave you scripture on pg 24 of this very thread. Perhaps you did not read it. Act 15:7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. Act 15:11 "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they." 1Pe 1:9 receiving the end of your faith--the salvation of your souls. 1Pe 1:10 Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, Joh 1:17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Here is what Paul said on the matter. Eph 3:5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: Apostles is plural and would include Peter and the other Apostles. Now for Death, Burial, Resurrection. Joh 3:15 "that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Joh 3:17 "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Joh 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. Joh 6:40 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day." Joh 6:51 "I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world." Joh 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. Joh 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! Mat 20:28 "just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mar 10:45 "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mat 16:21 From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Mar 8:31 And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. Luk 9:22 saying, "The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day." Peter was NOT a Christian, he was a Messan*c J*W, under all the laws, feast days, temple worship ect... he was saved by believing Jesus WAS the son of GOD, as were ALL those Peter preached to and believed. That was Peter's message and they were saved by believing, and a few were, as you mentioned, but out of a nation of 7 million, very few... certainly not a "nation of priests"... they rejected the priesthood than GOD sends the world Paul... apart from the priesthood, laws and rules... it's ALL grace today... PRAISE GOD! ... the gospel of the circumcision and the gospel of the uncircumcision... Believing Jesus is the Son of God means you believe everything that happened to Jesus which includes Death, Burial and Resurrection just as Paul says. Paul has the same messages as the apostles. They just formatted their message differently. Peter being a J*w spoke to the Je*ish people. Paul who was more learned was able to see other perspectives that the Gentiles needed and was able to format his message in a fashion to reach the Gentiles. Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. As Acts 15:23 says all the apostles and elders wrote letters to the Gentiles Acts 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia Last Edited by Achduke7 on 06/06/2020 08:35 PM Achduke |
| Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 79000379 United States06/06/2020 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | got scripture for that... Paul tells us HE was given this dispensation of grace to bring to the world, like Moses brought the J*ws the law and church structure, Paul brought in this period of grace, apart from the temple, rabbi's, the law, and all the requirements that go along with Judi*m... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 "For this cause, I Paul am the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles. If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God, which is given me to youward, That is, that God by revelation hath showed this mystery unto me (as I wrote above in few words, Whereby when ye read, ye may know mine understanding in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not opened unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy Apostles and Prophets by the Spirit, I gave you scripture on pg 24 of this very thread. Perhaps you did not read it. Act 15:7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. Act 15:11 "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they." 1Pe 1:9 receiving the end of your faith--the salvation of your souls. 1Pe 1:10 Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, Joh 1:17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Here is what Paul said on the matter. Eph 3:5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: Apostles is plural and would include Peter and the other Apostles. Now for Death, Burial, Resurrection. Joh 3:15 "that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Joh 3:17 "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Joh 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. Joh 6:40 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day." Joh 6:51 "I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world." Joh 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. Joh 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! Mat 20:28 "just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mar 10:45 "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mat 16:21 From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Mar 8:31 And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. Luk 9:22 saying, "The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day." Peter was NOT a Christian, he was a Messan*c J*W, under all the laws, feast days, temple worship ect... he was saved by believing Jesus WAS the son of GOD, as were ALL those Peter preached to and believed. That was Peter's message and they were saved by believing, and a few were, as you mentioned, but out of a nation of 7 million, very few... certainly not a "nation of priests"... they rejected the priesthood than GOD sends the world Paul... apart from the priesthood, laws and rules... it's ALL grace today... PRAISE GOD! ... the gospel of the circumcision and the gospel of the uncircumcision... "It's all grace"? IF you haven't repented and done the Father's Will you won't get SQUAT. You Paul ONLY folks are BLINDED. AND you keep forgetting that Gentiles are GRAFFED INTO Israel. NOT the other way around. Did Jesus say "Paul - I will build my church around you"? NOPE Matthew 16 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 06/06/2020 08:43 PM I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
| Achduke7
User ID: 78023456 United States06/06/2020 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The FACT REMAINS that those 8000+ were SAVED by BELIEF that Jesus is the Son of God. Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD In Acts 2:47 More and more J*ws were added daily. We do not know how long daily went on for but if thousands were added every day that could be a lot more than 8000. Also note these J*ws were added to the church. Nothing about being separate. Acts 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. Achduke |
| freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 77922969 United States06/06/2020 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: freedomsnotfree1 got scripture for that... Paul tells us HE was given this dispensation of grace to bring to the world, like Moses brought the J*ws the law and church structure, Paul brought in this period of grace, apart from the temple, rabbi's, the law, and all the requirements that go along with Judi*m... "For this cause, I Paul am the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles. If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God, which is given me to youward, That is, that God by revelation hath showed this mystery unto me (as I wrote above in few words, Whereby when ye read, ye may know mine understanding in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not opened unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy Apostles and Prophets by the Spirit, I gave you scripture on pg 24 of this very thread. Perhaps you did not read it. Act 15:7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. Act 15:11 "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they." 1Pe 1:9 receiving the end of your faith--the salvation of your souls. 1Pe 1:10 Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, Joh 1:17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Here is what Paul said on the matter. Eph 3:5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: Apostles is plural and would include Peter and the other Apostles. Now for Death, Burial, Resurrection. Joh 3:15 "that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Joh 3:17 "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Joh 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. Joh 6:40 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day." Joh 6:51 "I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world." Joh 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. Joh 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! Mat 20:28 "just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mar 10:45 "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mat 16:21 From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Mar 8:31 And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. Luk 9:22 saying, "The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day." Peter was NOT a Christian, he was a Messan*c J*W, under all the laws, feast days, temple worship ect... he was saved by believing Jesus WAS the son of GOD, as were ALL those Peter preached to and believed. That was Peter's message and they were saved by believing, and a few were, as you mentioned, but out of a nation of 7 million, very few... certainly not a "nation of priests"... they rejected the priesthood than GOD sends the world Paul... apart from the priesthood, laws and rules... it's ALL grace today... PRAISE GOD! ... the gospel of the circumcision and the gospel of the uncircumcision... Believing Jesus is the Son of God means you believe everything that happened to Jesus which includes Death, Burial and Resurrection just as Paul says. Paul has the same messages as the apostles. They just formatted their message differently. Peter being a J*w spoke to the Je*ish people. Paul who was more learned was able to see other perspectives that the Gentiles needed and was able to format his message in a fashion to reach the Gentiles. Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. As Acts 15:23 says all the apostles and elders wrote letters to the Gentiles Acts 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia show me ONE other apostle that mentions a pastor, deacon, a bishop, the body of Christ, salvation apart from the law... if they ALL preached the same thing show me scripture... freedomsnotfree1 |
| Judethz
(OP) User ID: 75895360  United Kingdom06/06/2020 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |    Just a reminder to everyone that the topic of this thread is the Rapture.Here is what the Gospel of Luke says about it. Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Luk 21:29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; Luk 21:30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. Luk 21:31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. Luk 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. Luk 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. Luk 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. Luk 21:35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.  |
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| Achduke7
User ID: 78023456 United States06/06/2020 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 I gave you scripture on pg 24 of this very thread. Perhaps you did not read it. Act 15:7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. Act 15:11 "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they." 1Pe 1:9 receiving the end of your faith--the salvation of your souls. 1Pe 1:10 Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, Joh 1:17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Here is what Paul said on the matter. Eph 3:5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: Apostles is plural and would include Peter and the other Apostles. Now for Death, Burial, Resurrection. Joh 3:15 "that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Joh 3:17 "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Joh 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. Joh 6:40 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day." Joh 6:51 "I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world." Joh 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. Joh 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! Mat 20:28 "just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mar 10:45 "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." Mat 16:21 From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Mar 8:31 And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. Luk 9:22 saying, "The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day." Peter was NOT a Christian, he was a Messan*c J*W, under all the laws, feast days, temple worship ect... he was saved by believing Jesus WAS the son of GOD, as were ALL those Peter preached to and believed. That was Peter's message and they were saved by believing, and a few were, as you mentioned, but out of a nation of 7 million, very few... certainly not a "nation of priests"... they rejected the priesthood than GOD sends the world Paul... apart from the priesthood, laws and rules... it's ALL grace today... PRAISE GOD! ... the gospel of the circumcision and the gospel of the uncircumcision... Believing Jesus is the Son of God means you believe everything that happened to Jesus which includes Death, Burial and Resurrection just as Paul says. Paul has the same messages as the apostles. They just formatted their message differently. Peter being a J*w spoke to the Je*ish people. Paul who was more learned was able to see other perspectives that the Gentiles needed and was able to format his message in a fashion to reach the Gentiles. Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. As Acts 15:23 says all the apostles and elders wrote letters to the Gentiles Acts 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia show me ONE other apostle that mentions a pastor, deacon, a bishop, the body of Christ, salvation apart from the law... if they ALL preached the same thing show me scripture... I can but my posts keep getting deleted! Achduke |
| Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 79000379 United States06/06/2020 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Believing Jesus is the Son of God means you believe everything that happened to Jesus which includes Death, Burial and Resurrection just as Paul says. Paul has the same messages as the apostles. They just formatted their message differently. Peter being a J*w spoke to the Je*ish people. Paul who was more learned was able to see other perspectives that the Gentiles needed and was able to format his message in a fashion to reach the Gentiles. Quoting: Achduke7 Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. As Acts 15:23 says all the apostles and elders wrote letters to the Gentiles Acts 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia show me ONE other apostle that mentions a pastor, deacon, a bishop, the body of Christ, salvation apart from the law... if they ALL preached the same thing show me scripture... I can but my posts keep getting deleted! Just because Paul said different "phrases" it doesn't mean it wasn't the SAME gospel. I already posted the Paul verses above that show he taught THE SAME Gospel. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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| Judethz
(OP) User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom06/07/2020 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Yes and that's because I caught you and "Servant of the Lord"bang to rights late yesterday evening spamming my thread. Seven long posts within a space of about 20 minutes (without the excuse of replies) is quite obviously spam. I know that you where thinking to take advantage of me being 5 hours ahead of you so that they would stay up for a while a clog up the thread. What really pisses me off though, is that evil minded people like you prevent others from getting the message of salvation out in their own threads on GLP. I've been here about 18 years so I can deal with the never ending attempts at derailment quickly, and without worrying over much about the negative feed back. New people, especially those with a free account, where they cannot edit their threads like I can, quickly get them ruined beyond repair because of the work done by people like you. |
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| Achduke7
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| Judethz
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| Judethz
(OP) User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom06/08/2020 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not ONCE does He say that we miss tribulation. Quoting: TheLordsServant Not ONCE does He say that He "returns" two times. german3 He does actually. In the clouds during the Pre-Tribulation Rapture and on the earth at the climax of the Great Tribulation. 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. That's not Jesus talking - that's Paul.  Yes it is and it would seem that it's driving you mad...as it should do. Jesus Christ picked Paul to help spread the gospel and by attacking Paul's truthfulness you are also claiming by implication that Jesus Christ makes mistakes. Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. |
| Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 79012243 United States06/09/2020 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not ONCE does He say that we miss tribulation. Quoting: TheLordsServant Not ONCE does He say that He "returns" two times. german3 He does actually. In the clouds during the Pre-Tribulation Rapture and on the earth at the climax of the Great Tribulation. 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. That's not Jesus talking - that's Paul. Yes it is and it would seem that it's driving you mad...as it should do. Jesus Christ picked Paul to help spread the gospel and by attacking Paul's truthfulness you are also claiming by implication that Jesus Christ makes mistakes. Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Where does Paul write "Thus saith the LORD"? Where does Paul write "And Jesus said...."? At the same time though - LOOK at the comparison of what Paul said to what Jesus said about His Second Coming. Their talking about the SAME event. The Second Coming. Pre-trib rapture is manmade doctrine - made by seperating what Paul says from what Jesus actually said. 1800+ years AFTER it was written. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
| Judethz
(OP) User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom06/09/2020 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where does Paul write "Thus saith the LORD"? Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD Where does Paul write "And Jesus said...."...……………………………………………….   Why this absolute refusal to accept anything that the Lord or the Apostle's say at face value, this constant need to change everything to suit your own whims. Your just a 615 rule bound Pharisee tying yourself in knots. |
| Judethz
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| Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 21472202 United States06/10/2020 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All YOU ever do is blabber manmade false doctrine - telling Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD people that they will avoid Tribulation by belief in Christ. Jesus NEVER said that. counter: It's not very nice to go around putting words into peoples mouths. What do you think the pre-trib rapture doctrine does? It tells folks that "IF you believe - you will NOT see tribulation in the End Times".  I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
| Judethz
(OP) User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom06/10/2020 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you think the pre-trib rapture doctrine does? Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD It tells folks that "IF you believe - you will NOT see tribulation in the End Times".  You have this amazing ability to take that which is good and make it sound like something bad. But that's your problem not mine. I'll stick with what the Bible says.1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.  You have still been blessed with a little time so don't waste it. Turn to the Lord now while you are still able and He will be quick to hear you. But don't take all day about it you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be. |
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| Judethz
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(OP) User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom06/14/2020 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See how these verses are ALL the same event. Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD 2. Then notice how Paul's verses 15 & 17 match....  Why? All this endless studying is just a weariness of the flesh. If you cannot accept the Lord's promises at face value then I feel sorry for you.1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. |
| Judethz
(OP) User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom06/15/2020 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We don't escape Tribulation. Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD We escape WRATH. You folks seem to think that there's 7 years of WRATH coming. There isn't. Hum, it seems like a choice between what you say and what the Bible says. I'll go with the Bible.Isa 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. |
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| Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 33537513 United States06/15/2020 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We don't escape Tribulation. Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD We escape WRATH. You folks seem to think that there's 7 years of WRATH coming. There isn't. Hum, it seems like a choice between what you say and what the Bible says. I'll go with the Bible. Isa 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. That verse has NOTHING to do with a pre-trib rapture. You folks THINK that the Bible promises that we MISS the Tribulation. It doesn't. It's a false promise designed to get you and keep you in churches that don't actually TEACH the Bible. 1 Thessalonians 4 is about the Second Coming. NOT a pre-trib rapture. Scripture PROVES this. YOU people are ignorant. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
| Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 33537513 United States06/15/2020 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See how these verses are ALL the same event. Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD 2. Then notice how Paul's verses 15 & 17 match.... Why? All this endless studying is just a weariness of the flesh. If you cannot accept the Lord's promises at face value then I feel sorry for you. 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. Are YOU TOO LAZY to read and UNDERSTAND the truth???? See how these verses are ALL the same event. 1. Notice that Verses 16 & 17 are pretty much EXACTLY what Jesus says in the Gospel descriptions. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. ------------------------------------------ 2. Then notice how Paul's verses 15 & 17 match.... 1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 06/16/2020 01:48 PM I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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It's not very nice to go around putting words into peoples mouths.
