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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78860082 Australia 04/30/2020 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is the main difference between dreaming and being awake? When you practice Lucid dreaming, this question really starts to sink in to where you question everything about it. What's different about a dream, why is it different. Eventually you start realizing that your dreams are actually an extension of your life, not something that is that separate. They may not last as long, consequences may be suspended, but the truth of the matter is they don't feel any less real when you are lucid. What Lucid dreaming really is, is a form of inter-dimensional travel. How this works is when your brain is harmonizing at a different frequency close to sleep, what happens is this brain wave frequency changes, which allows your consciousness access to different levels of reality. The you that is asleep can become disconnected, and that is how you find yourself in dreams. When you dream you don't need your physical body and you don't need to be upright, you are not in a time space that is anywhere near your physical body becomes you are launched into a different dimension. I guess this is sometimes called the astral. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78860082 Australia 04/30/2020 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | an Example of going from the real world to the astral This is a scenario that has happened to me many times, and I will repeat it here for demonstration purposes. You find yourself laying in bed, sleepy but not fully asleep. There is this sweet spot between waking and being asleep where you can slip through into the astral while still being consciously aware. This normally happens to me towards the mornings, but it can happen in afternoon naps, as it did just this evening to me. This is about the time your body has shut down it's ability to move, and your brainwaves are harmonizing into a sleep mode. This is the confusing part. I have found it rather difficult to distinguish at this time the difference between your bedroom, and an astral version of it. What happens is the astral version of your bedroom is not your bedroom, but it looks identical to it. So when you get up off the bed, it's very easy to assume you have just woken up. Countless times when I have got up off the bed, I have had to check to assure myself that I am still asleep, that I didn't simply just get up. After you do this a number of times it becomes second nature telling the difference, but someone new would easily mistake it for just getting up normally, and would then progress it into a normal dream where you are not lucid and think you are awake. Anyway when you have got up out of the bed, It's your real consciousness getting up, not your body. Your consciousness has become disconnected to your body at this point. This is where you are now in the astral, but when you first leave your body a number of things can happen. You may experience blackness, no visuals, visuals may be weak, or you may have trouble moving. This is tied back to frequency of your brainwaves. They may not fully be harmonized with your environment. When you leave your body and you do see your room. It will seem very much the same as the real world at first, but it's not. It's a completely different dimension with different rules. This will become apparent the moment you start exploring. Your astral room and environment changes quickly. Everything from different windows or doors, to completely different scenery can emerge, This is your consciousness traveling and decoding information based on it's frequency. |
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User ID: 76939846 United States 04/30/2020 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . A couple months back, I went lucid while flying through the insides of some computer. I didn’t notice my body, like I usually do. I was literally screaming as flew through strange electronic components as big as I was. Before I went to sleep, I was a bit pissed cuz I was having a bad migraine. Literally fell asleep with my head on ice. I’d remember thinking - when I get to the other side, I'm going to have a “talk” with someone about this fucked up pain. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78860182 United States 04/30/2020 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75814225 How do I make it happen? I've lucid dreamed plenty of times, but always just on random. I'd like to make it happen on command. Controlling the dream (or just exploring it) is not a problem once I do get lucid, but it happens far more rarely than I'd like. It took about a month of training for me to be able to do it on demand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75814225 Sweden 04/30/2020 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75814225 How do I make it happen? I've lucid dreamed plenty of times, but always just on random. I'd like to make it happen on command. Controlling the dream (or just exploring it) is not a problem once I do get lucid, but it happens far more rarely than I'd like. It took about a month of training for me to be able to do it on demand. I'd be happy to put in a month of training. ...but how do you train it? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78839350 Canada 04/30/2020 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's what i do: this works and is very repeatable. 1- go to bed not later than 11:00pm 2- set your alarm for between 3:40am and 4:30am. You want to have enough sleep so that you're able to wake fully, but little enough sleep so that it's easy to fall back to sleep 3- when your alarm goes off, get up, out of bed. Have a pee, drink a glass of water. 4- take between 20 and 40mg of melatonin. Start off small, 20mg. If you take too much you'll get a nasty headache. 5- go directly back to bed. Lie on your back eyes closed, relaxed breathing. 6- when the melatonin begins affecting your consciousness, you'll start to hear a muffled rushing noise in your ears. When you hear this, you'll really really want to go back to sleep. 7- Don't fall asleep! Continue focusing on the rushing noise, as if you're entering into and passing through it. Do not fall asleep 8- the rushing noise will stop, you'll be in your body, but separate from it and free to do as you wish. You can set up lucid dream realities or just go exploring the real world in an obe state. 9- don't be afraid. If you find yourself afraid, or even thinking too much about your body in bed, you'll suddenly find yourself waking up in that body, lucid/obe experience over. With experimentation, over found that you can create artificial dream realities, you can explore this physical reality, you can move to different places in time (at least the past), and you can explore etheric realities/interact with non-physical beings. Have fun!! Don't take too much melatonin or you'll get a headache. If you find that it's consistently taking 40mg to get the rushing state, it's time to take a break. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75814225 Sweden 04/30/2020 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting idea to use a heavy dose of melatonin in the morning to make sure you go back to sleep. I have a hard time falling asleep at the best of times, so I'm taking 3 mg in the evening to help out a bit. I'll have to order some stronger pills and try this later. Melatonin is illegal in Sweden, so it's a bit of a hassle... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69610811 United States 01/16/2021 03:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are 4 ways to determine if you are dreaming (where the unconscious side of you is awake) versus living in reality (the normal side where your conscious self is awake). 1. The old indigenous way was to look at your hands. Do it now. This is called "doing a reality check". You will see blue veins and fingerprints and palm and digit creases when you conscious self is awake. When dreaming, these are most often absent and the trick is to realize, "Hey I'm dreaming", and not fully wake up. Beginners wake up and lucid dreamers can stay within their unconscious state. If you do the latter, you can control your dreams. [A way to prevent fully waking is spinning like you did when a child. For some reason, spinning in a dream maintains an unusual state when you are awake but in the unconscious state. This is how beginners learn to not fully wake.] 2. Digital watches and light switches do not properly work when dreaming. This has been reported by many lucid dreamers. The unconscious awake self tries to read their watch, and it seems to be broken or flashes. Light switches when flipped either stay on or won't change on and off. So you can do a reality check and so verify if you are dreaming of if the conscious self is awake. 3. What most works for me is reading as a reality check. In a dream, your unconscious self is attempting a stream of ideas to alter reality, thus if you look at the words then look away and then back again, the words will change. Every single time without fail. They will do things like distort in front of your eyes, or the sentence structure will alter and seem nonsensical or be jumbled like a misprint. 4. A more difficult reality test is doing the impossible like imagining something levitating even yourself. This wakes beginners up and most often frustrates them as they experience joy, "Hey I am flying!", but that wakes the conscious mind. Doing steps 1, 2, and 3 especially are gentle reality checks so they are more like mental judges, "Hmmm, I am dreaming". You would presume you can do anything in a dream when lucid dreaming, but the frontal lobe which restricts behavior, thus imposes based on personal morals or imposes versus societal shared ethics, and so the lucid dreamer cannot do some action. For example, in a dream, if I try to enter a home without someone coming to the door, I cannot enter as I know that would be bizarre and violate morality. Other things are more nebulous. When I try, the door is locked, and just the action is a reality check and I wake up but in the dream state. You unconscious self is every aspect of a dream and manifesting to communicate to the conscious self. So the weather, the music, the colors, any sense of smell or taste, the characters, the dialogue are all aspects of this. So when waking up in a dream state, you control reality, and this causes an immense sense of elation as you control reality without most limits. Say you see a dream character, they may halt speaking or acting as the unconscious self is no longer controlling them...so you can. So the trick is you controlling just a tulpa of yourself, but not every other character. Classically, the dreamer is back in high school or university and it's an exam day, and they feel they are unprepared for testing ie your unconscious self does not feel confident and ready in reality. Or dreamers report they are naked and embrassed to be walking around in the dream. Those two prominent dreams people most often report. Or they are talking to old friends o family who have died or to whom they currently have no relationship. Or they see a mirror and they are young like 18 again though they are in fact old. All of these can trigger reality checks. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69610811 United States 01/16/2021 03:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But what frustrates them is realizing it is test day at 3rd period as a senior in high school in Chemistry class. Then they do a reality check, wake up, "Hey I am 41 years old", then the whole class of people just halt as their conscious self cannot control so many people at once. They will freeze then evaporate. What probably happens is the scene changes to a neutral state and they are outside. A nature scene by yourself is simple to control versus a memory of some past event. An advanced lucid dreamer would only affect their tulpa of themselves, and let their unconscious self control everything else. Then their "self" within the dream is awake, while 30 people around them continue under the unconscious self manifesting that dream. This principle then allows you as the dreamer to talk to the deceased as memories or even to travel back to the past. You can actually have a complex dialogue where you interact with old memory thought forms who tell you to "wake now". |
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User ID: 79858701 United States 01/16/2021 03:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75814225 How do I make it happen? I've lucid dreamed plenty of times, but always just on random. I'd like to make it happen on command. Controlling the dream (or just exploring it) is not a problem once I do get lucid, but it happens far more rarely than I'd like. When I was 8 years old, abusive life was hard. But at night, I’d slide into a different world where I was happy but when I woke up reality would hit hard. It was one hell of a coping mechanism, I’m going to give this a shot. Thank you. When I was 8, I rode a horse to that other reality and I knew how to get there. I know, it sounds nuts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69610811 United States 01/16/2021 03:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The easiest ways to induce lucid dreaming are to start a dream journal so you are actively remembering your dreams. Meanwhile, you set the alarm to wake 1.5 hours before you have to get up, then immediately go back to sleep. That works for most people. Similarly many people who experience lucid dreaming have a higher success rate when taking a nap. Others have luck by reducing coffee use as that causes more mental "alertness" and instead take a low dose of kava kava before bed. What you are inducing is a semiconscious state on purpose so merging the conscious and unconscious selves. Neurologically, a lucid dreamer has both selves awake simultaneously,but trying to only control their physical manifestation of "self"...otherwise directing every aspect of the dream state is daunting like the most complex multitasking. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69610811 United States 01/16/2021 03:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All during the reality state, you do reality checks. Like you could put up a poster with words on it. Or look at the digital time on a phone or tablet. Or look at you hands. These routine reality checks then become innate to your routine. So when in the dream state, you will innately do them, they will fail and you will begin lucid dreaming. You set up opportunities and do the dream journal and do reality checks. I bet you have at least one lucid dream in a week or two and then the frequency will increase more and more. It becomes a discipline part of routine, like going to a mental gym to work out, rather than a random process. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79865493 01/16/2021 03:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My limited one time experience with astral projection ended in what felt like several hours of sleep paralysis including hallucination of an entity in the room while was paralyzed. This was about a week and a half ago. Is sleep paralysis common? Did I successfully astral project only to be paralyzed by fear instead of fully leaving my body? Thanks the your insights. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69610811 United States 01/16/2021 03:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It may be that very creative people routinely at able to induce both a conscious state and summon the unconscious self to solve problems. If you are an artist or problem solver, you probably have closed your eyes and induced a strong imaginary reality to manifest ideas or fix a problem. What you are actually doing is tamping down beta waves, entering alpha, relaxing, and inducing theta waves...consciously. Look it up. [link to nhahealth.com (secure)] Theta waves |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69610811 United States 01/16/2021 03:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Beta waves are usually generated when doing calculations or when analyzing ie "what does that mean"? That is what occurs when you wake up and become alert. That is the primary reason people can't remember their dreams as beta waves severely suppress the unconscious self. ... I would not try astral projection as that involves the soul trying to stay attached by a golden cord but expanding outside their body. Sleep paralysis is horrible and many notice supernatural entities, thus might be demonic. ... When lucid dreaming, you can stop a nightmare, thus it is empowering as you are in control so the antithesis of sleep paralysis. ... One way to enter lucid dreaming is be relaxed in bed and imagine you are in a descending elevator and slowly repeat, "I am dreaming. I am dreaming" as you imagine going deeper underground. This induces a conscious and unconscious state to simultaneously co-exist. |
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