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What I have learned from this shutdown

 
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And don't give up on owning a restaurant!! When the dust settles, people still are gonna want good food!
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We just ordered from a local restaurant tonight. BBQ beef ribs with string green beans and homemade mashed potatoes. Caesar salad and bread. 40 bucks for 4 people.
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I learned that people really are stupid as fuck

Blind leading the blind

It’s beyond sad

sheep
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I learned people will do WHATEVER they are told to do, and the armed agents of the state will do WHATEVER they are told to do.
I've gotten a lot of red for telling the truth and being right. Just sayin'
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There will be business grants and you would be very likely to get one with any sort of skill.

Just hold on as long as you can, but it will be better, better than before in fact.
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as long as the endless red tape, taxes, and irs/fed slave system still exists, they can fuck off with their grants and loans.
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There won't be any grants. How can their be grants? A transfer of wealth, perhaps ... Again, the decimated middle class that will be squeezed for the very last drop only to have it evaporate instantly like on a hot plate. Stagflation here we come.

We've been living in a world of corporate insanity for decades, a rotten-to-the-core structure, like the Soviet Union, that should've collapsed a long time ago. Infinite growth on a planet with finite resources was the paradigm ... psychotic madness.
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I will never ever ever open up a brick and mortar business.

I work as a chef and have tired with the idea in the past to have my own restaurant, perhaps several. However seeing as the government can decide that they can shutdown the country at will and also decide who stays open and who the Fed will not let fail, screw that idea.

No more of that monopoly game for me.

What say you guys, would you be willing to sink in your life savings or a good portion of it just to see it evaporate due to big government decisions?
 Quoting: The Gullible Skeptic


Not all restaurants are shut down.

And think about it.

If your state said to shut all restaurants down, but you live in a small town that doesn't cater to TOURISM, that receives no assistance from the feds and minimal from the state if any, and all the people in your town are White and all get along with each other then the restaurant would stay open because you have no enemies. And in consideration your town wouldn't brag about the restuarant being open as to not draw attention to it or create jealousy.

Do you realize the War taking place here? Because this is America and tons of shit is shut down due to the intricately woven network of knee grows, mongrels and White race traitors needing money, who's deserving for a job and jealousy and greed.

Believe me when I say, there are Towns in these states that have risen above all the bullshit but they are tight and certainly aren't going to brag about how they don't need the test of society. And no, these aren't the 1% elite.

It's basically because you, among hundreds of thousands of others, including myself, who are unloved by the Gods who had the ability to create their Eden Towns. They are probably laughing inside saying everyone deserves what they get. I do hope they have mercy on those that get it because some might think it would be easier to go through this knowing everyone was suffering, but I assure you, not everyone is and it makes it worse when one is suffering and they are aware others are FREE from it. You would think many would be happy that others aren't suffering when they are suffering themselves but this is hardly ever the case. If they did, it would be very sacrificial. When they do find out that not everyone is suffering like they were, they will want to kill those who did not suffer so they feel their rage and pain, but by then it will be too late for them to act on that because the police state tech will be completely in place. The prepped hospitals are there for when they turn on each other.

This can be compared to the terrible boss who abused the worker who took the abuse, then the worker comes home and takes it out on the people he or she loves. Misplaced anger. Happens all the time. So sad.

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What say you guys, would you be willing to sink in your life savings or a good portion of it just to see it evaporate due to big government decisions?
 Quoting: The Gullible Skeptic


Back in the late 1920s, early 1930, Republican president Herbert Hoover, in response to the Great Stock Market Crash of 1929, raised income taxes to a confiscatory level in the 80 percentile range. That guy sure as hell was no responsible, sensible, intuitive conservative. ("Read my lips, no new taxes...")

He instead was a prelude to the more flaming liberalism of Franklin Roosevelt. That guy, a liberal Democrat, increased income taxes to an even higher level.

Decades later, we're seeing the way that McCain/Romney type Republicans (closeted liberals) and leftwing Roosevelt-type Democrats are doing to SARS-CoV-2 what they did to the stock market crash of 1929.

Trump better realize history and be more repulsed by left-leaning thinking and people than he currently is.
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Money over life huh ? How noble of you op.
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put a sock in it.
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A lot of people spent years of their lives mastering a skill, & just as many years saving & scraping together funds to start a business around that skill. And then there's the years of working morning, noon, & night to keep that fledgeling enterprise afloat & cashflow it positive. That's the American dream - to ply your craft & not have to answer to a boss or a corporation.

All those people are having their livelihoods destroyed. Nobody in this country is more awake than them. If they don't know what's really going on, you can bet your ass they'll figure it out soon. People who lose everything lose their gullibility to lies & propaganda fast. I think they'll be at the frontlines of whatever final rebellion against this takedown of the country comes to be.
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Some of the people will end up going off the deep end and begin hunting down politicians before it's all said and done. One could hardly blame them.
Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America.
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Whatever bidness you are in make sure as shit you have 6 months of mad money to cover no income. Even with a food truck, you were out of business so if you owed money on it, you are going to run out of reserves quick. Buy only in cash and have a cash buffer. Might take an average person about 20 years to do that while working another job. At that point, you are old and not fit for that type of business.

No real answer here for any of it.
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I learned that people really are stupid as fuck

Blind leading the blind

It’s beyond sad

sheep
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It's not that anyone is stupid. They have no understanding from God.
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There will be business grants and you would be very likely to get one with any sort of skill.

Just hold on as long as you can, but it will be better, better than before in fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77721687


as long as the endless red tape, taxes, and irs/fed slave system still exists, they can fuck off with their grants and loans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4076414


There won't be any grants. How can their be grants? A transfer of wealth, perhaps ... Again, the decimated middle class that will be squeezed for the very last drop only to have it evaporate instantly like on a hot plate. Stagflation here we come.

We've been living in a world of corporate insanity for decades, a rotten-to-the-core structure, like the Soviet Union, that should've collapsed a long time ago. Infinite growth on a planet with finite resources was the paradigm ... psychotic madness.
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good post
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I will never ever ever open up a brick and mortar business.

I work as a chef and have tired with the idea in the past to have my own restaurant, perhaps several. However seeing as the government can decide that they can shutdown the country at will and also decide who stays open and who the Fed will not let fail, screw that idea.

No more of that monopoly game for me.

What say you guys, would you be willing to sink in your life savings or a good portion of it just to see it evaporate due to big government decisions?
 Quoting: The Gullible Skeptic


I disagree. We must continue on in pursuit of our dreams, regardless. By killing your own dream, you’ve just submitted. If everyone did this, communism would be so far up our asses, you’d look back just a few short years later saying “I miss those days!”

That said, we must adapt for sure, and also plan accordingly. The number one reason any business or individual “fails,” no matter how successful, is the lack of planning and SAVING for a worst case scenario. We’ve only been “locked down” for a couple of months, yet business owners everywhere are saying the same as you. They can’t survive this!?!? But just as many are awaiting their opportunity to reopen, and will flourish because those that didn’t plan for something like this will no longer be there to compete. Many more will start their own to fill the gap. In short, starting a business requires taking risk, but those that plan accordingly can manage those risks better than others. Those that don’t, well...will likely be working for those that do (not that there’s much wrong with that, but don’t say “government overreach” is why I won’t - simply plan for it, and prepare to fight it if necessary).

The issue with government overreach will correct itself though as those same successful business leaders (along with those of us that care for our rights) stand up and tell them to fuck off.
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Your will need a Warp-Speed Vaccine (W-SV) certificate to buy and sell. Smart move OP.
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I've learned I can save a lot more money when everything's closed
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I will never ever ever open up a brick and mortar business.

I work as a chef and have tired with the idea in the past to have my own restaurant, perhaps several. However seeing as the government can decide that they can shutdown the country at will and also decide who stays open and who the Fed will not let fail, screw that idea.

No more of that monopoly game for me.

What say you guys, would you be willing to sink in your life savings or a good portion of it just to see it evaporate due to big government decisions?
 Quoting: The Gullible Skeptic


Not anymore, and I was going to open a law practice. Now, I will likely be practicing in some alternative way online, and will very likely be going corporate.
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A lot of people spent years of their lives mastering a skill, & just as many years saving & scraping together funds to start a business around that skill. And then there's the years of working morning, noon, & night to keep that fledgeling enterprise afloat & cashflow it positive. That's the American dream - to ply your craft & not have to answer to a boss or a corporation.

All those people are having their livelihoods destroyed. Nobody in this country is more awake than them. If they don't know what's really going on, you can bet your ass they'll figure it out soon. People who lose everything lose their gullibility to lies & propaganda fast. I think they'll be at the frontlines of whatever final rebellion against this takedown of the country comes to be.
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Well said.
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A lot of people spent years of their lives mastering a skill, & just as many years saving & scraping together funds to start a business around that skill. And then there's the years of working morning, noon, & night to keep that fledgeling enterprise afloat & cashflow it positive. That's the American dream - to ply your craft & not have to answer to a boss or a corporation.

All those people are having their livelihoods destroyed. Nobody in this country is more awake than them. If they don't know what's really going on, you can bet your ass they'll figure it out soon. People who lose everything lose their gullibility to lies & propaganda fast. I think they'll be at the frontlines of whatever final rebellion against this takedown of the country comes to be.
 Quoting: XeroGravity


Some of the people will end up going off the deep end and begin hunting down politicians before it's all said and done. One could hardly blame them.
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I expect a rise in lone wolf cases fallowing all of this insanity.
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There will be business grants and you would be very likely to get one with any sort of skill.

Just hold on as long as you can, but it will be better, better than before in fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77721687


as long as the endless red tape, taxes, and irs/fed slave system still exists, they can fuck off with their grants and loans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4076414


There won't be any grants. How can their be grants? A transfer of wealth, perhaps ... Again, the decimated middle class that will be squeezed for the very last drop only to have it evaporate instantly like on a hot plate. Stagflation here we come.

We've been living in a world of corporate insanity for decades, a rotten-to-the-core structure, like the Soviet Union, that should've collapsed a long time ago. Infinite growth on a planet with finite resources was the paradigm ... psychotic madness.
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Very good post. Massive individual wealth was created in America MOSTLY from the vast natural resources here. And people harvested those resources and everybody was making lots of money. But as you stated, resources are finite.

My question to you is, what is the alternative? I haven't been able to think of one. Every one of us in the world becomes totally self-sufficient? Then we have the problem of many 3rd world countries that have little to no natural resources with which to be self sufficient? Quite the dilemma.
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Fuck the census. Secure and private when it comes to the gov. means tell us all. Threw that filled out shit with made up crap in my neighborhood garbage can inside a bag of dog shit. Fuck the Karens too!
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I have learned that if we the people Pfizer GLP fan the world it would be an awesome place. We are more intelligent than 99.9% of the public and government.

That is what I have fucking learned !!!!!
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I learned that people really are stupid as fuck

Blind leading the blind

It’s beyond sad

sheep
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I learned people will do WHATEVER they are told to do, and the armed agents of the state will do WHATEVER they are told to do.
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NAILED-it9

Here's confirmation of the above with a music video about the Milgram experiment:

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Food truck

Go for it OP !
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I will never ever ever open up a brick and mortar business.

I work as a chef and have tired with the idea in the past to have my own restaurant, perhaps several. However seeing as the government can decide that they can shutdown the country at will and also decide who stays open and who the Fed will not let fail, screw that idea.

No more of that monopoly game for me.

What say you guys, would you be willing to sink in your life savings or a good portion of it just to see it evaporate due to big government decisions?
 Quoting: The Gullible Skeptic


I came to a similar conclusion in 2008 about owning a home. I thought I can either try to finish paying off this mortgage and then own the home or I can buy some silver with the little money I have and short sell my house.

I decided to short sell my house because a house is just a place to live. It's not an ATM and the government can at any time revoke your right to own property and confiscate your home. But if you've got a stack of silver or gold you can make your escape in the middle of the night carrying your nest egg.
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I've learned that most of you motherfuckers don't know what two metres is!
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It's the eurotrash homo way of writing two meters
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I learned that 60% of Americans don't have any savings, no cushion whatsoever financially. That has to end; life is too uncertain. We need to go back to saving for a rainy day and basic fiscal responsibility.

I learned that again 60% of American children are on the school meals (not just lunch) program...the majority of our children's parents can't afford to feed them regularly or sufficiently. In America.

I learned that 40% of school children don't have access to broadband internet at home sufficient to do their schoolwork from home.

I learned that the American public is way too dependent/desirous of government financial support. Look how everyone not only needed but WANTED the stimulus check. How everyone clamored and asked for government money immediately. The basic sentiment is that the government must/should/has to support me right now in an emergency, but maybe beyond too, as if it is some birthright. The movement toward universal income is going to grow.

I learned how easily most Americans will not only give up their civil liberties, but not even notice that what is happening is impinging on those civil liberties. As Benjamin Franklin said, "those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety." For a little safety for a small percentage of our population, we have given up a lot of liberty.

And as a lawyer, I learned once again that the law is basically recession and disaster proof. To the poster above me, open that law practice. There is and will be plenty of legal work to do, for years to come, because of all this mess.

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Do not even think of opening a restaurant for at least 2 years. Hospitality business will never be the same again.
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I've known for some time
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I will never ever ever open up a brick and mortar business.

I work as a chef and have tired with the idea in the past to have my own restaurant, perhaps several. However seeing as the government can decide that they can shutdown the country at will and also decide who stays open and who the Fed will not let fail, screw that idea.

No more of that monopoly game for me.

What say you guys, would you be willing to sink in your life savings or a good portion of it just to see it evaporate due to big government decisions?
 Quoting: The Gullible Skeptic


FOOD TRUCKS are where it's at now. One doesn't need to offer a hundred things. Just do a couple things really well.

I have 2 jobs and one of them is in food service. We remained open for deliver and carry-out. Many brick-and-mortar places will not recover and reopen. There's already a thin margin in this business. This has devastated a lot of people.

The food trucks are flourishing around here, rotating on a schedule to service different parts of town. The news paper advertises where they'll be each day.
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Excuse me but the banana2 USA is not a banana...
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Ive learned its easy to make the sheeple comply. Dumbed down, but some are waking up!
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I will never ever ever open up a brick and mortar business.

I work as a chef and have tired with the idea in the past to have my own restaurant, perhaps several. However seeing as the government can decide that they can shutdown the country at will and also decide who stays open and who the Fed will not let fail, screw that idea.

No more of that monopoly game for me.

What say you guys, would you be willing to sink in your life savings or a good portion of it just to see it evaporate due to big government decisions?
 Quoting: The Gullible Skeptic


If you still want to cook for folks, food truck is the way to go actually. One of the biggest trends over the past 10 yrs is now going to skyrocket.
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The majority of businesses are small business and that infuriates the elites. Seems all too convenient on so many levels what is going on right now.





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