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Chefs and Cooks of GLP: Advice needed on cast iron, please!

 
Loup Garou

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05/05/2020 09:06 PM

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seasoning raw cast iron is dual purpose
a> to prevent rust
b> to make it 90+% nonstick

you still cannot crack a raw egg into a seasoned cast iron pan without it sticking
even seasoned pans need butter, oil, or grease etc. for certain foods

you can throw a steak, burgers, pork chop etc. in a seasoned cast iron pan without needing to use any butter, oil, or grease etc. to prevent sticking
 Quoting: Red John


In my case, even oil and butter don't help.

Everything still sticks to it.

The enameled finish is worthless.

I'm in a Catch-22.

Since everything sticks to it, I have no choice but to scrub the hell out of it with lots of soap and water to clean it, but by doing that, it fairly well guarantees the next food item I cook in it will stick.

As I said previously, I thought the enamel finish solved that issue, but apparently it does not.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Dude, Immediately when you have finished cooking and the pot is still hot is when the cleaning process/steam process works to release the stuck on food. (pour a small amount of hot water into the pot, (barely cover the bottom of the pan), move it around with a heat resistant spatula, most of the stuff that was stuck will release.. if not, then it is time to use an old plastic mayonnaise lid as a non-scratch scraper only if needed. ( keep a serving bowl at the ready to put the hot cooked food into for serving)

I have had and used my MIL cast iron set that she was gifted in the 1940's, I have used them for many decades. Nothing ever sticks, but if I don't empty the pot and use the steam process it will get stuck on particles, just put the water, bring the pot back up to heat, use spatula, and presto like magic it is clean.

I do wash mine with soap and hot water, dry immediately with dishcloth, on occasion I will apply a fresh film of oil with a paper towel and rub it until it is almost dry. NO RUST. no stick, perfect.

Good luck.

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Have Le Creuset cookware. Need to cook with fats to help with the sticking problem especially when cooking proteins. The coating is not intended to be non-stick, it's to keep the iron clean and rust free. Low to medium heat only. Dutch ovens for soups, stews, chili, dried beans, whatever you want to cook low and slow with liquids. We use their iron skillet for roasting chicken. Pour off the fat add water or stock low heat stirring to release the brown bits to create a pan sauce. Use wood or plastic utensils. Soak overnight with water and a drop of dish soap and they clean up easy.

If this is not the type of cooking you do then Le Creuset may not be ideal for your use case.

High grade stainless steel can be fairly non-stick if used correctly but still need to use some form of fat to keep proteins from sticking.

We use enamel coated cast iron, uncoated cast iron, stainless steel, (the stainless cookware coming out of Belgium is awesome), coated and uncoated aluminum. We love our coated aluminum fry pans. Our 12 inch nonstick pans are the true workhorses of our kitchen but they don't last forever. We replace them anytime they get a big scratch in the coating so nonstick particles, however tiny, don't get into our food. They tend to last us about 18 months of hard use before they need to be replaced because one of us got lazy and scratched it using a metal utensil.
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I have gas stove with heavy metal grates.

When I try it with oil and high heat, it smokes like hell and sets off all the smoke detectors in the house.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Get a flame difuser, and keep the flame on super low to cook eggs.

And like others said, it has to be seasoned.
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Let those among you who have not sinned cast the first iron pan.
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05/05/2020 09:23 PM

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I just want to bake cornbread in mine... if I still had my cast iron skillet
 Quoting: beeches


Target sells lodge and if you spend $35 it’s free shipping. Here is a 10 inch for $15

A tip I learned from my grandmother when making cornbread, turn your oven up 10 to 20 degrees when preheating. Immediately after placing the skillet of cornbread in the oven reduce the heat to the proper temperature
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05/05/2020 09:29 PM

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I have gas stove with heavy metal grates.

When I try it with oil and high heat, it smokes like hell and sets off all the smoke detectors in the house.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Get a flame difuser, and keep the flame on super low to cook eggs.

And like others said, it has to be seasoned.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


High heat is the fastest way for me to ruin an egg too. I have a ceramic pan that I only use for eggs.

I watch my son fixed scrambled eggs in a copper skillet over high heat and they turn out perfect. It frustrates me so much I need to walk away

Scrambled eggs should be so easy, but they are definitely an art
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I have gas stove with heavy metal grates.

When I try it with oil and high heat, it smokes like hell and sets off all the smoke detectors in the house.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Stop using trashy oils, especially corn or peanut.
They have low smoke temps and they are unhealthy chlorestrol risers.

Grapeseed doesn't smoke until 425 F degrees and actually lowers your cholesterol.

For cold things like salad dressings use olive oil.
Never heat olive oil as it turns transfatty.
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I'm a chef. Collect all your used oil. Anything. Fill your pan with old oil.

Then just let it sit. When you want to use that pan. Empty that oil into a container and run pan under hot water until dirty oil is gone. Then cook with clean oil. Then when done cooking put old oil back and let soak until next use.
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So I bought this Le Creuset cast iron grill (with Panini press) a few months ago:

[link to www.williams-sonoma.com (secure)]

Problem is, EVERYTHING sticks to it, and it's a bear to clean.

I just grilled steaks in it the other night and I needed to soak and scrub it THREE times to get it clean.

I've tried cooking on high temp, low temp, with oil, without oil, all to no avail. Everything sticks to it!

What am I doing wrong??

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Your heat is too high. I had the same problem with one.
 Quoting: Skip. 65831616


HELL FOOKIN LOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This was the second post in the thread and the correct answer. Lower the heat and use a lid. Those pans are about even heat but they can get really hot. Lower the heat, take your time or use another pan.
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I did NOT season it with oil because it comes with an enameled finish all over, and it's advertised as not needing to be seasoned.

From the link I posted above:

Black enamel interior requires no additional seasoning, unlike other cast-iron cookware.



Seems like Le Creuset screwed that up, yeah?

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 Quoting: Zovalex


You still need oil. Also turn the heat down a bit. I have a cast iron enamel coated propane griddle. A oil brush on the meat and oil it also, every time, or things will stick.

Clean it up every time or it will rust out.

I took to dipping a paper towel in oil and running it over the cooking surface just prior to adding the meat. Did ok with that, but mine has a sloped surface. I add oil at the top and let it pool down to drain at the bottom.

I probably wont buy enamel coated cast iron again.burnit
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I did NOT season it with oil because it comes with an enameled finish all over, and it's advertised as not needing to be seasoned.

From the link I posted above:

Black enamel interior requires no additional seasoning, unlike other cast-iron cookware.



Seems like Le Creuset screwed that up, yeah?

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Yeah, by making it in China.
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wonder why they painted the inside black? must make it harder to see the burn marks
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You shouldn't have purchased an enameled piece of shit. Just get a Lodge Logic. I've had a couple of em for about 10 years now that have been solid as rocks, zero issues. Good compliments to the other no-name skillet I received from a family friend that was produced in the USA in 1915 and still works beautifully.

Plain cast iron is the only way to go when it comes to cookware. Fuck everything else, including trendy finishes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59633025


I didn't think Le Creuset was a "piece of shit", especially for the $240 I paid for it at the time, but might consider going with Lodge.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Le Creuset is not a POS but the enameled all over (incl the cook surface) are only meant for low to medium heat and for sautéing only.... Not frying. If you want to fry in cast iron get a cast iron surface pan like Lodge. Put a high smoke temp oil (only enough to cover the bottom... About a table spoon and rub it all over) in it and put it in the oven at 350 for several hours and it will be seasoned. Let it cool slowly and you will be able to use it the next day. It takes some learning but you'll get it and love it once you do.





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