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1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?

 
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1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes,
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Lol
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"Give unto Caesar..."

In other words, follow the rules/regulations of your governing leadership so long as they don't conflict with God's law. To break this down even simpler, yes, you pay for a marriage license if you want to be recognized by the state/country as a "legally" married couple. The ring, which is symbolic only, itself does not validate a marriage. It's merely an outward expression showing the world that you're married. Same thing for Baptism. The Baptism itself isn't what saves you, it's faith. The Baptism is merely symbolic of your marriage with Christ or an outward expression of your faith in Christ.

Now, we could argue all day long what exactly constitutes as "adornment". One could argue that a plain ring is good enough while (likely a female) would argue that a big fat f*cking rock is a much more adequate personification of the symbolism it's supposed to represent.
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Re: 1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
If read the whole chapter it says it was woman who sinned not Adam. Yet also says women under authority of men. So how could Adam not be blamed if woman was under his authority and women are under men’s authority? Saved by faith through childbearing sounds propaganda. Jesus would be turning up tables I’m sure being outside times manipulations. Lol
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Lol
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Big Ed won’t give her salvation! >dramatic voice<
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Re: 1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
A better question is why do you have a marriage license where in scripture does it require a license from God to marry
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Matthew 22:29-30 English Standard Version (ESV)

29 But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

The question is what is angel in this context
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Matthew 22:29-30 English Standard Version (ESV)

29 But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

The question is what is angel in this context
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


Even more specific, there's 2 words most people ignore in that passage... "IN HEAVEN..."

This is what they're like "in heaven".
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It is commonly believed that the first examples of wedding rings were found in ancient Egypt. Relics dating to 6,000 years ago, including papyrus scrolls, are evidence of the exchange of braided rings of hemp or reeds between spouses. Ancient Egypt considered the circle to be a symbol of eternity, and the ring served to signify the perpetual love of the spouses. This was also the origin of the custom of wearing the wedding ring on the ring finger of the left hand, because the ancient Egyptians believed that this finger enclosed a special vein that was connected directly to the heart,[3] denominated in Latin the "Vena amoris".

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Vena amoris is a Latin name meaning, literally, "vein of love". Traditional belief established that this vein ran directly from the fourth finger of the left hand to the heart.[1] This theory has been cited in western cultures as one of the reasons the engagement ring and/or wedding ring was placed on the fourth finger, or "ring finger". This traditional belief is factually inaccurate as all the fingers in the hand have a similar vein structure.

The earliest use of jewelry to signify a bonding was often chains and bracelets. This evolved to the use of the symbolic ring. In ancient Egypt, the Sun and the Moon gods were feared[citation needed] and worshipped. A ring was a symbol of these spirits[citation needed], both of whom were also related to the home and hearth[citation needed]. The endless circle showed the eternal nature of the bond, while the open centre was meant to be a doorway to things unknown
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Matthew 22:29-30 English Standard Version (ESV)

29 But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

The question is what is angel in this context
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


Even more specific, there's 2 words most people ignore in that passage... "IN HEAVEN..."

This is what they're like "in heaven".
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Yes. Good point. Not fallen state.
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Re: 1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
Ever wonder why it's called

JEWelry???
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If read the whole chapter it says it was woman who sinned not Adam. Yet also says women under authority of men. So how could Adam not be blamed if woman was under his authority and women are under men’s authority? Saved by faith through childbearing sounds propaganda. Jesus would be turning up tables I’m sure being outside times manipulations. Lol
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It was different in the garden. At that time men and women were subject to God equally. Eve sinned and turned her back on God. Then God set up the order of woman over children, man over woman, and man under God.
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Fallen state is unaware of pre-information about ones self and history. Meaning will look or he tricked or deceived into something that is not truth. Giving the garment of flesh a bad name in the way to risen state of meaning of self and love.
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Re: 1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
Ever wonder why it's called

JEWelry???
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Naughty lol
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Re: 1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
If read the whole chapter it says it was woman who sinned not Adam. Yet also says women under authority of men. So how could Adam not be blamed if woman was under his authority and women are under men’s authority? Saved by faith through childbearing sounds propaganda. Jesus would be turning up tables I’m sure being outside times manipulations. Lol
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence

It was different in the garden. At that time men and women were subject to God equally. Eve sinned and turned her back on God. Then God set up the order of woman over children, man over woman, and man under God.
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I see that within patriarchy. Division of labor is work not grace. Certainly not self sufficiency.
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Re: 1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes,
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what do you think? It is clear to me.
To Eglah, thus saith the everlasting God: open ye not urns of grapes, but wagons full of shellfish.
4 Uriah 8:27
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Re: 1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
Don't take it so literally. The thrust of the passage is this: don't be a slave to fashion and getting caught up in vain materialism. Dress sensibly and focus your attention on more important matters.
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Re: 1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
A better question is why do you have a marriage license where in scripture does it require a license from God to marry
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Yup. Purely a governmental requirement.
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Re: 1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
you're worrying about the mote in someone else's eye when you have a telephone pole in yours
I've gotten a lot of red for telling the truth and being right. Just sayin'
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Re: 1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes,
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Do you know what a ring represents? Are you sure?
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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Re: 1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
Matthew 22:29-30 English Standard Version (ESV)

29 But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

The question is what is angel in this context
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


Good God. Please get a bible study with one of Jehovahs Witnesses. You guys know nothing.
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I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes,
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Do you know what a ring represents? Are you sure?
 Quoting: Pilgrim001


In very ancient times, people would cut a blood covenant. Literally, they would each cut a finger and then they would mingle the blood together as they grasped each other's hand . They had a blood covenant that they were joined together. We no longer do that, but the ring is a symbol of that blood covenant. Would Jesus approve that we no longer use a blood cutting to join together two people? We might have fewer divorces if we still did.

For those that will hear it, God sealed His new covenant with man with the blood of Jesus. He sealed his promises with his own blood.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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Re: 1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
Matthew 22:29-30 English Standard Version (ESV)

29 But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

The question is what is angel in this context
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


Good God. Please get a bible study with one of Jehovahs Witnesses. You guys know nothing.
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At least whatever they know isn't made-up bullshit like JW.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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Re: 1 Timothy 2:9 - Does Jesus approve of wedding rings?
I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes,
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Jesus was silent on the matter of wedding bands, therefore I am as well.

How would Paul, who the OP quotes, know what Jesus’ opinion was wedding rings, or anything else for that matter? He never met or knew Jesus, and was a false apostle.

Remember that his job as a Pharisee was to go out and arrest Christians, but Christianity began growing too fast, with far too many converts to be able arrest them all. His superiors decided then that infiltration, and destruction from within, was a much better tactic, and to a degree, it worked. Paul’s convoluted, narcissistic ramblings have been a stumbling block for millions, and should never have been included in the New Testament.

If you want Truth, read just Christ’s words in red, preferably those documented in the Gospel of John, and also those in Revelations. Be warned, though, that if you follow this course, you may expect to be speedily given the Right Foot of Fellowship at just about any church you may be currently attending if they get wind of it.

Of course, if you wish to be a Paulist instead of a Christian, giving him scriptural priority over Christ, then by all means read and follow his writings and doctrine. You’ll fit right into this final apostate church age.





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