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Limpan

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Here me out.....

damned

The federal reserve is pumping in money in the stock market and banks like there is no tomorrow.
If they would have done like this.....for the small businesses.
we have 33 million people losing their jobs in the US.
If they would have given those people around 700 dollar a month for 5 months till hopefully the storm is over, we have a sum of 0,115 trillion dollars for that expense.
You give all the companies money for expenses, like rent and things they have to pay for to keep the company in business. Let us say for fun 3000 dollar for 5 months. I am just guessing that it would affect about 5 million companies, I take that numbers from the air.
For that we have a sum of 0,75 trillion dollars.

And we have to take in to account, the people that loose their jobs, the state still have to pay out unemployment benefits....So those 700 per/ person is not much if you count that in.

If these idiots would have done that, instead of paying out the markets and the banks, the could have kick started all economy after a half year, person still having their job and there companies to go back to.

Please give comments and say what you think. This would not even be one trillion dollars, and they have printed 6-7 so far. What the heck is going on???



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What the heck is going on???
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Controlled demolition.

Small businesses are supposed to go bankrupt. We're not meant to be able to be work hard and become economically independent by building a business. Every one of us must be a powerless serf.
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What the heck is going on???
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Controlled demolition.

Small businesses are supposed to go bankrupt. We're not meant to be able to be work hard and become economically independent by building a business. Every one of us must be a powerless serf.
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We are living in historic mad crazy times.....


:anger:
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What the heck is going on???
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Controlled demolition.

Small businesses are supposed to go bankrupt. We're not meant to be able to be work hard and become economically independent by building a business. Every one of us must be a powerless serf.
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You nailed it. Amazon and Walmart are the winners in this scenario. Unemployed people galore will have to go work for these shit companies and their shit wages. This was a corporate money grab and power grab and everyone is letting it happen, including Rump. So enjoy the show, because in the end, there is a big fat surprise waiting on the other side of this that no one sees coming. If you think humanity is going to be enslaved by weeny rich people, you are as duped as they are. Pacify the enemy, then sucker punch. That is what spirit is doing, and the players in this game often don't even know what square they are standing on. Cause compasses don't work without COMPASSion.
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What the heck is going on???
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Controlled demolition.

Small businesses are supposed to go bankrupt. We're not meant to be able to be work hard and become economically independent by building a business. Every one of us must be a powerless serf.
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the only people becoming economically independent from small businesses are the business owners... nice try though

half of these fucking places wouldn't exist without paying a minimum wage, if they paid a living wage, they'd go bust. But don't be fooled by the big bosses sweet ride, he's still paying for it.

Regardless, no you cannot have vacation time and a .25 raise should be good for the year.
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The funny money system has to end at some point. That point has now been reached and the money being created now is not a continuation of same but the cost of the reset.

Gold backed currency to come and a reversion back to the old way of doing things. No more free money no more endless credit. You want a mortgage, it's 50% deposit down or no mortgage.

There will be a lot of pain but it will get better in time.
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You could also say that the tax payer shouldn't have to pay for the Bill Gates vaccines that are coming out. But it is tax payers money.

Completely illogical what they are doing and anybody with half a brain can see this is all designed to crumble us
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don't bail out the Rich, they need to learn to
take care of themselves.
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Here me out.....

damned

The federal reserve is pumping in money in the stock market and banks like there is no tomorrow.
If they would have done like this.....for the small businesses.
we have 33 million people loosing there jobs in the US.
If they would have given those people around 700 dollar a month for 5 month till hopefully the storm is over, we have a sum of 0,115 trillion dollars for that expense.
You give all the companys money for expenses, like rent and things they have to pay for to keep the company in buisness. Let us say for fun 3000 dollar for 5 months. I am just guessing that it would affect about 5 million companys, I take that numbers from the air.
For that we have a sum of 0,75 trillion dollars.

And we have to take in to account, the people that loose there jobs, the state still have to pay out unemployment benifits....So those 700 per/ person is not much if you count that in.

If these idiots would have done that, insteed of paying out the markets and the banks, the could have kick startaed all economy after a half year, perons still having there job and there companys to go back to.

Please give comments and say what you think. This would not even be one trillion dollars, and they have printed 6-7 so far. What the heck is going on???



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ANYONE on unemployment gets an extra 600 a week as a gift from the Federal government which is nearly 4 times your 700 a month number.

I'm not sure what you are complaining about.

Now, one thing is for sure, the amount of money being printed is going to be painful at some point in the future.
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What the heck is going on???
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Controlled demolition.

Small businesses are supposed to go bankrupt. We're not meant to be able to be work hard and become economically independent by building a business. Every one of us must be a powerless serf.
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Bingo!
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Here me out.....

damned

The federal reserve is pumping in money in the stock market and banks like there is no tomorrow.
If they would have done like this.....for the small businesses.
we have 33 million people loosing there jobs in the US.
If they would have given those people around 700 dollar a month for 5 month till hopefully the storm is over, we have a sum of 0,115 trillion dollars for that expense.
You give all the companys money for expenses, like rent and things they have to pay for to keep the company in buisness. Let us say for fun 3000 dollar for 5 months. I am just guessing that it would affect about 5 million companys, I take that numbers from the air.
For that we have a sum of 0,75 trillion dollars.

And we have to take in to account, the people that loose there jobs, the state still have to pay out unemployment benifits....So those 700 per/ person is not much if you count that in.

If these idiots would have done that, insteed of paying out the markets and the banks, the could have kick startaed all economy after a half year, perons still having there job and there companys to go back to.

Please give comments and say what you think. This would not even be one trillion dollars, and they have printed 6-7 so far. What the heck is going on???



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If they had lifted all restrictions two weeks after they started (as they had originally planned), and then instituted measures to protect the most vulnerable, providing funds as necessary to help them make it through this if their companies they worked for had to lay them off for any reason (if unable to work from home for instance), the cost of this disaster would have been in the billions. Not trillions.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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The oligarchs in charge don't care if the lower and middle classes starve, they are taking care of themselves and the people who own them.
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from journalist Ramin Mazaheri:

"But in the Western system it’s all about the banks:

After three months of Great Lockdown the stresses on their banking system will be unprecedented and well-beyond the designs of any post-2008 government-regulated “stress tests”. At what point do they say – and corporate banks have essentially already said this, even if community banks realise their viability is tied to their local Main Street: “We don’t have the ability, the bureaucratic size and efficiency, the will, nor the profit motive to work through round after necessary round of small loans,”? What Mom and Pop needed was direct government loans, but in the Western anti-socialist/anti-government “bankocracies” they are forced to go through these parasitic middlemen first, last and always.

The fatal flaw of this very Western system should now be totally exposed: Bankers can very easily quit and say, “I didn’t sign up to save the Western economy,” but that is exactly what neoliberals expect them to do, because they refuse to – sensibly – hand this task to government. Bankers became bankers to get rich, of course. Small businesses held out hope (and held back on layoffs) of government assistance only to be reminded that they have no influence in a Western system dominated by very high-priced “free speech” (and lobbyists)."
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All gonna pay big time for it soon.
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The goal is to crash and burn, Great Depression , government dependance, socialism!
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Drain Trump and his billionaire friends.
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Of course. I've been saying this from the beginning. Bail out the consumers and then the banks are safe, as people can keep paying their bills.

This as one absolutely massive looting operation by the elite.
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THIS IS SUCH FUCKING BULLSHIT


THE SMALL BUSINESSES ARE ORDERED TO CLOSE WHILE

WALMART IS ALLOWED TO OPEN.

WALMART IS BYPASSING THE CURFEW HOURS THAT OTHER BUSINESSES

ARE ALLOWED TO OPEN.

WALMART IS GETTING INTO THE LIQUOR

BUSINESS ALSO.

IT IS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS THE GOVERNMENT OWNS WALMART

AND DOESNT WANT SMALL BUSINESS.
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THIS IS SUCH FUCKING BULLSHIT


THE SMALL BUSINESSES ARE ORDERED TO CLOSE WHILE

WALMART IS ALLOWED TO OPEN.

WALMART IS BYPASSING THE CURFEW HOURS THAT OTHER BUSINESSES

ARE ALLOWED TO OPEN.

WALMART IS GETTING INTO THE LIQUOR

BUSINESS ALSO.

IT IS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS THE GOVERNMENT OWNS WALMART

AND DOESNT WANT SMALL BUSINESS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78885087




I FORGOT

THEY HAD THE FUCKING PRINTING OUT

CDC PROPAGANDA SOCIAL DISTANCING SET UP IN RECORD TIME

FOR NATIONWIDE CHAIN OF STORES

DO YOU REALIZE HOW FUCKING HARD IT IS TO DO THAT FOR

50 STATES AND SO FAST???

ALL THE MORE PROOF THAT WALMART IS A GOVERNMENT ARM


SMALL BUSINEESES MUST STAY CLOSED

SO 3 PEOPLE IN A FUCKING STORE DO NOT

CATCH A VIRUS



SORRY
too much coffee

IT IS SUCH BULLSHIT
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THIS IS SUCH FUCKING BULLSHIT


THE SMALL BUSINESSES ARE ORDERED TO CLOSE WHILE

WALMART IS ALLOWED TO OPEN.

WALMART IS BYPASSING THE CURFEW HOURS THAT OTHER BUSINESSES

ARE ALLOWED TO OPEN.

WALMART IS GETTING INTO THE LIQUOR

BUSINESS ALSO.

IT IS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS THE GOVERNMENT OWNS WALMART

AND DOESNT WANT SMALL BUSINESS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78885087




I FORGOT

THEY HAD THE FUCKING PRINTING OUT

CDC PROPAGANDA SOCIAL DISTANCING SET UP IN RECORD TIME

FOR NATIONWIDE CHAIN OF STORES

DO YOU REALIZE HOW FUCKING HARD IT IS TO DO THAT FOR

50 STATES AND SO FAST???

ALL THE MORE PROOF THAT WALMART IS A GOVERNMENT ARM


SMALL BUSINEESES MUST STAY CLOSED

SO 3 PEOPLE IN A FUCKING STORE DO NOT

CATCH A VIRUS



SORRY
too much coffee

IT IS SUCH BULLSHIT
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LOL coffee is good for you...

hf
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Corporatism. Corporations rule....small businesses do not contribute huge $$ to campaigns so they can suck it.
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lol.

THE LITTLE PEOPLE

"thinking" LOL
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Of course. I've been saying this from the beginning. Bail out the consumers and then the banks are safe, as people can keep paying their bills.

This as one absolutely massive looting operation by the elite.
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The funny money system has to end at some point. That point has now been reached and the money being created now is not a continuation of same but the cost of the reset.

Gold backed currency to come and a reversion back to the old way of doing things. No more free money no more endless credit. You want a mortgage, it's 50% deposit down or no mortgage.

There will be a lot of pain but it will get better in time.
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House prices will drop considerably if the banks start requiring people to come up with a 50% down payment, and the residential real estate market as we knew it will simply collapse because only the rich or those who received large inheritances will be able to afford to buy a house.
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We're getting the full package. Same pattern all over the world.

Destroy the middle class so only the large corporations are left. A very little ruling class and a huge number of slaves.

Vaccinations forced by law or in countries where the resistance is stronger backdoor via only letting people go to work or shop when they have the shot. Controlled by a chip/biometric thing.

The whole pumping of the markets with money is to buy up everything. Once you got money from the federal banks you're in dept and they got you by the balls. Once you're on unemployment, they got you by the balls (buh-bye to unemployment money when you will not comply to be chipped like a cow).

Then at some point all currencies will fail and they will roll out a new one world currency which will be digital only. There will probably not be an official one world government within our lifetime - but that won't matter, all nations will obey the elite, they already do.

Virus real or not - I personally think it is real but less dangerous than they want us to believe it but more dangerous than a flu overall nothing that we haven't seen before - doesn't matter.

They are using this to bring about a global neo-fascist control state much like China already is, that is their model - if you call it fascism or communism or werefuckedineveryorificesism doesn't matter, its all the same thing. We lost and we've been losing since decades. Every year a little piece of freedom got taken away. Sometimes they throw you a bone too keep up the illusion of freedom, but that does not change the trend.

I grew up in east germany and it was much there like it will be, just a little more fancy. There was also no middle class worth mentioning. There was an elite and their suckers (who had it just a little tiny bit better than all the rest of us, like they had a color TV). Then there was a rest.

Now get in line you piece of cattle ! They don't give a fuck about we the people.

Lucky if you do not have family. If you're alone you might have some possibility to go all Bear Grylls off the grid. But even that is getting harder all the time because the grid is pretty much everywhere where humans can exist with at least minimal food and shelter.
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This is scary, but still the markets are green...WTF....
Give the money to the working people insteed for the rich 5 %. Press on Max and compare through history...

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What the heck is going on???
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Controlled demolition.

Small businesses are supposed to go bankrupt. We're not meant to be able to be work hard and become economically independent by building a business. Every one of us must be a powerless serf.
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We are living in historic mad crazy times.....


:anger:
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Yes we are
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THIS IS SUCH FUCKING BULLSHIT


THE SMALL BUSINESSES ARE ORDERED TO CLOSE WHILE

WALMART IS ALLOWED TO OPEN.

WALMART IS BYPASSING THE CURFEW HOURS THAT OTHER BUSINESSES

ARE ALLOWED TO OPEN.

WALMART IS GETTING INTO THE LIQUOR

BUSINESS ALSO.

IT IS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS THE GOVERNMENT OWNS WALMART

AND DOESNT WANT SMALL BUSINESS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78885087




I FORGOT

THEY HAD THE FUCKING PRINTING OUT

CDC PROPAGANDA SOCIAL DISTANCING SET UP IN RECORD TIME

FOR NATIONWIDE CHAIN OF STORES

DO YOU REALIZE HOW FUCKING HARD IT IS TO DO THAT FOR

50 STATES AND SO FAST???

ALL THE MORE PROOF THAT WALMART IS A GOVERNMENT ARM


SMALL BUSINEESES MUST STAY CLOSED

SO 3 PEOPLE IN A FUCKING STORE DO NOT

CATCH A VIRUS



SORRY
too much coffee

IT IS SUCH BULLSHIT
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LOL coffee is good for you...

hf
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That’s the first thing my brain said when seeing all the new, custom made signs about the Hoax/virus. They had them all made within days and distributed across the nation to every store just like that huh? BS!
And the plexiglass too.... hardware stores must’ve had a shit Tom is stock at every store across the nation....again BS!
Trump compared this “attack” to Pearl Harbor and 911....both of which were false flags.
It’s a damn staged hoax people, it’s more than obvious now
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I don't think we truly know the REAL reason why, or ever will. Just like 911. Obviously the official narrative is bullshit, but it's force fed down everyone's throat so it's what most believe.

In my opinion, I believe it was done to purposefully crash the global economy by way of crashing the dollar. The dollar is globally dominant, therefore crashing it results in a domino effect. Not only that but to also make DJT look weak, and set him up to hang himself by way of looking incompetent through the crisis.

Problem: DJT, Strong US economy working WITH other countries (China trade DEAL, etc)

Solution: Release a virus and let MSM fear monger

At least this is my .02
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We must go to war with corporations

Think small, think local

Stop feedi;g the beast
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damned

The federal reserve is pumping in money in the stock market and banks like there is no tomorrow.
If they would have done like this.....for the small businesses.
we have 33 million people loosing there jobs in the US.
If they would have given those people around 700 dollar a month for 5 month till hopefully the storm is over, we have a sum of 0,115 trillion dollars for that expense.
You give all the companys money for expenses, like rent and things they have to pay for to keep the company in buisness. Let us say for fun 3000 dollar for 5 months. I am just guessing that it would affect about 5 million companys, I take that numbers from the air.
For that we have a sum of 0,75 trillion dollars.

And we have to take in to account, the people that loose there jobs, the state still have to pay out unemployment benifits....So those 700 per/ person is not much if you count that in.

If these idiots would have done that, insteed of paying out the markets and the banks, the could have kick startaed all economy after a half year, perons still having there job and there companys to go back to.

Please give comments and say what you think. This would not even be one trillion dollars, and they have printed 6-7 so far. What the heck is going on???



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-the trillions went to the federal reserve banks
-they gave $1200 to some people
-they pretended to give out money to small businesses, but most of it went to shell companies created by...

capiche?





GLP