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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77202143 Canada 05/08/2020 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Controlled demolition. Small businesses are supposed to go bankrupt. We're not meant to be able to be work hard and become economically independent by building a business. Every one of us must be a powerless serf. Yes, big businesses are killing small and medium businesses. Big businesses are also fighting between themselves to be the official Party-designated essential businesses. Basically, everybody is just stealing from regular people’s pockets because people stopped providing elite with sufficient funds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78809745 United States 05/08/2020 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here me out..... Quoting: Limpan The federal reserve is pumping in money in the stock market and banks like there is no tomorrow. If they would have done like this.....for the small businesses. we have 33 million people losing their jobs in the US. If they would have given those people around 700 dollar a month for 5 months till hopefully the storm is over, we have a sum of 0,115 trillion dollars for that expense. You give all the companies money for expenses, like rent and things they have to pay for to keep the company in business. Let us say for fun 3000 dollar for 5 months. I am just guessing that it would affect about 5 million companies, I take that numbers from the air. For that we have a sum of 0,75 trillion dollars. And we have to take in to account, the people that loose their jobs, the state still have to pay out unemployment benefits....So those 700 per/ person is not much if you count that in. If these idiots would have done that, instead of paying out the markets and the banks, the could have kick started all economy after a half year, person still having their job and there companies to go back to. Please give comments and say what you think. This would not even be one trillion dollars, and they have printed 6-7 so far. What the heck is going on??? The only thing that could have saved the economy would have been a one-time debt forgiveness of all personal debt owed to banks. In the Old Testament this was known as "the Jubilee" and always brought great blessing to Israel. Actually, it was commanded by God. Unfortunately, the people running this Country, Left and Right, do not believe in God, his Laws or His Covenant. Additionally, the Trump-Pelosi pork barrel stimulus should have gone entirely to American households. Not a thin dime should have gone to the banksters, big business, and the MIC. They had their bailout in 2008 under Obama. Had the 2008 Bailout gone entirely to American households, each household would have received approximately 60,000 dollars. It could have been the same this time around but the Trump-Pelosi stimulus was not concerned with helping average Americans. 1,200 dollars is a joke considering the amount of damage the Government-initiated Coronahoax has done to the American economy. Also, it is obscene that in the midst of a national emergency with Americans losing their jobs and families being destroyed, that Left and Right continue to spend trillions on a bloated Military Industrial Complex and continue to send billions to other countries in foreign aid. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76980519 United States 05/08/2020 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, There really is no short answer to your synopsis however I offer this: But propping up businesses, it keeps them afloat and underlying employees (hopefully) employed. A reason this works long term as opposed to giving that money to individuals is for competition sake which may seem counterintuitive at its face value. Think of when Lehman and Bear went under. There were 1000's of highly skilled, highly accomplished financial professionals localized to NYC who were then out of work. Sure some aspects / groups were able to port to other firms however a far greater amount were not. Those jobs did not come back. Now imagine this scenario on a national or global scale. Keep the businesses from going under and allow for greater recovery in a more expedited fashion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78607611 United States 05/08/2020 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here me out..... Quoting: Limpan The federal reserve is pumping in money in the stock market and banks like there is no tomorrow. If they would have done like this.....for the small businesses. we have 33 million people losing their jobs in the US. If they would have given those people around 700 dollar a month for 5 months till hopefully the storm is over, we have a sum of 0,115 trillion dollars for that expense. You give all the companies money for expenses, like rent and things they have to pay for to keep the company in business. Let us say for fun 3000 dollar for 5 months. I am just guessing that it would affect about 5 million companies, I take that numbers from the air. For that we have a sum of 0,75 trillion dollars. And we have to take in to account, the people that loose their jobs, the state still have to pay out unemployment benefits....So those 700 per/ person is not much if you count that in. If these idiots would have done that, instead of paying out the markets and the banks, the could have kick started all economy after a half year, person still having their job and there companies to go back to. Please give comments and say what you think. This would not even be one trillion dollars, and they have printed 6-7 so far. What the heck is going on??? It's possibly part of a new narrative I saw that "GOP is just helping their own" Also as we know from the Great Depression, some people will get rich of such things in history. |
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Revo/elation
User ID: 57369630 United States 05/08/2020 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here me out..... Quoting: Limpan The federal reserve is pumping in money in the stock market and banks like there is no tomorrow. If they would have done like this.....for the small businesses. we have 33 million people losing their jobs in the US. If they would have given those people around 700 dollar a month for 5 months till hopefully the storm is over, we have a sum of 0,115 trillion dollars for that expense. You give all the companies money for expenses, like rent and things they have to pay for to keep the company in business. Let us say for fun 3000 dollar for 5 months. I am just guessing that it would affect about 5 million companies, I take that numbers from the air. For that we have a sum of 0,75 trillion dollars. And we have to take in to account, the people that loose their jobs, the state still have to pay out unemployment benefits....So those 700 per/ person is not much if you count that in. If these idiots would have done that, instead of paying out the markets and the banks, the could have kick started all economy after a half year, person still having their job and there companies to go back to. Please give comments and say what you think. This would not even be one trillion dollars, and they have printed 6-7 so far. What the heck is going on??? The dems own the house so they have to get in their 25 Million dollar Kennedy Center grants. There's DC for ya |
The Gullible Skeptic
User ID: 70011787 United States 05/08/2020 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Controlled demolition. Small businesses are supposed to go bankrupt. We're not meant to be able to be work hard and become economically independent by building a business. Every one of us must be a powerless serf. They are picking winners and losers, this is by design. Why else would bad economic news send stocks higher. It's all fake. But there are things that will cause them to go down or up. If oil can't stay propped up then stocks will fall. Also if the 10 year bond yeild stays low or falls the stocks will fall. INTP/8w9 Ennegram "You can't teach anyone anything but they can choose to learn" -Me- "To exist is to destroy"-Me- "Specialization is for insects" -Robert Heinlein- Nine Noble Virtues: ODINISM: Truth,Courage,Honor,Fidelity,Discipline,Hospitality,Self Reliance, Industriousness, Perseverance |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72540402 United States 05/08/2020 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Controlled demolition. Small businesses are supposed to go bankrupt. We're not meant to be able to be work hard and become economically independent by building a business. Every one of us must be a powerless serf. Yes, big businesses are killing small and medium businesses. Big businesses are also fighting between themselves to be the official Party-designated essential businesses. Basically, everybody is just stealing from regular people’s pockets because people stopped providing elite with sufficient funds. Big corporations profits are down so they released a virus called Corona patented in 2006 via the United States patent office so Trump could give unlimited unconstitutional treasonous bailouts from Wall Street |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72540402 United States 05/08/2020 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It should be illegal to pay people not to work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77197203 It is subversive to society That's exactly what usury produces lazy f**** that Lobby government so they don't have to work now they get bailed out so far trumps given Wall Street 10 trillion dollars while fund the mic and abortion then Fox News tries to convince you that the US Patent did coronavirus was a deep State weapon via China and trying to drum up the war machine to go attack China yeah that's real smart listen algo send our children overseas to start a war with China at the same time having the military go down and try to start a coup with Venezuela |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72717676 United States 05/08/2020 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Controlled demolition. Small businesses are supposed to go bankrupt. We're not meant to be able to be work hard and become economically independent by building a business. Every one of us must be a powerless serf. We are living in historic mad crazy times..... :anger: Because we have retarded people running the show. These people need to be replaced with more intelligent folks. As a species, we are pathetically ignorant and dumb beyond belief.. |
dschis1000
User ID: 77525785 United States 05/08/2020 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The funny money system has to end at some point. That point has now been reached and the money being created now is not a continuation of same but the cost of the reset. Quoting: The Searcher Gold backed currency to come and a reversion back to the old way of doing things. No more free money no more endless credit. You want a mortgage, it's 50% deposit down or no mortgage. There will be a lot of pain but it will get better in time. All the Shemitah and Jubillees that haven't been done, will be. He's dropping the hammer on the rest of it too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75064661 United States 05/08/2020 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The funny money system has to end at some point. That point has now been reached and the money being created now is not a continuation of same but the cost of the reset. Quoting: The Searcher Gold backed currency to come and a reversion back to the old way of doing things. No more free money no more endless credit. You want a mortgage, it's 50% deposit down or no mortgage. There will be a lot of pain but it will get better in time. All the Shemitah and Jubillees that haven't been done, will be. He's dropping the hammer on the rest of it too. God maybe but not any depends wearing adderal sniffing president who was bailed out by Rothschild via Wilbur Ross who he appointed commerce Secretary. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78893504 United States 05/08/2020 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here me out..... Quoting: Limpan The federal reserve is pumping in money in the stock market and banks like there is no tomorrow. If they would have done like this.....for the small businesses. we have 33 million people loosing there jobs in the US. If they would have given those people around 700 dollar a month for 5 month till hopefully the storm is over, we have a sum of 0,115 trillion dollars for that expense. You give all the companys money for expenses, like rent and things they have to pay for to keep the company in buisness. Let us say for fun 3000 dollar for 5 months. I am just guessing that it would affect about 5 million companys, I take that numbers from the air. For that we have a sum of 0,75 trillion dollars. And we have to take in to account, the people that loose there jobs, the state still have to pay out unemployment benifits....So those 700 per/ person is not much if you count that in. If these idiots would have done that, insteed of paying out the markets and the banks, the could have kick startaed all economy after a half year, perons still having there job and there companys to go back to. Please give comments and say what you think. This would not even be one trillion dollars, and they have printed 6-7 so far. What the heck is going on??? -the trillions went to the federal reserve banks -they gave $1200 to some people -they pretended to give out money to small businesses, but most of it went to shell companies created by... capiche? ANd guess what, YOU can create a shell company too. The loophole is the business doesnt have to exist, you just have to hire some workers and lay them off. |
jereome User ID: 20525770 United States 05/08/2020 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look the correct way to have dealt with this issue would have been to just leave everything open. Then pass legislation to where the elderly, those with compromised immune systems and those with pre existing medical conditions could request a leave of absence for around 4 months and then draw unemployment for this duration. If they would have done it this way there would have been next to no impact on the economy. But its clear that the agenda is to cause as much damage to the economy as they can. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75064661 United States 05/08/2020 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here me out..... Quoting: Limpan The federal reserve is pumping in money in the stock market and banks like there is no tomorrow. If they would have done like this.....for the small businesses. we have 33 million people loosing there jobs in the US. If they would have given those people around 700 dollar a month for 5 month till hopefully the storm is over, we have a sum of 0,115 trillion dollars for that expense. You give all the companys money for expenses, like rent and things they have to pay for to keep the company in buisness. Let us say for fun 3000 dollar for 5 months. I am just guessing that it would affect about 5 million companys, I take that numbers from the air. For that we have a sum of 0,75 trillion dollars. And we have to take in to account, the people that loose there jobs, the state still have to pay out unemployment benifits....So those 700 per/ person is not much if you count that in. If these idiots would have done that, insteed of paying out the markets and the banks, the could have kick startaed all economy after a half year, perons still having there job and there companys to go back to. Please give comments and say what you think. This would not even be one trillion dollars, and they have printed 6-7 so far. What the heck is going on??? -the trillions went to the federal reserve banks -they gave $1200 to some people -they pretended to give out money to small businesses, but most of it went to shell companies created by... capiche? ANd guess what, YOU can create a shell company too. The loophole is the business doesnt have to exist, you just have to hire some workers and lay them off. If you lat them off it's a loan not a grant. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20525770 United States 05/08/2020 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Controlled demolition. Small businesses are supposed to go bankrupt. We're not meant to be able to be work hard and become economically independent by building a business. Every one of us must be a powerless serf. the only people becoming economically independent from small businesses are the business owners... nice try though half of these fucking places wouldn't exist without paying a minimum wage, if they paid a living wage, they'd go bust. But don't be fooled by the big bosses sweet ride, he's still paying for it. Regardless, no you cannot have vacation time and a .25 raise should be good for the year. You obviously are worth less than min wage.Were you marched in at gunpoint to work under such conditions?You obviously have limited options as this is the only employment you can find.Even the big box shit retail jobs were paying a couple bucks over min wage before the shit storm.3 dollars more per hour on top for weekends. Agreed. I hate all of the classism today where you have people like this guy talking shit about business owners, which shows he knows absolutely nothing about owning a business. I'll give him a hint. Many times the small business owner is the hardest working individual in the whole business, and often when you figure out his hours to earning ratio there are probably employees that are making more money than him or her. Also I'll give him another hint. There is a reason these companies are closing and going bankrupt just like everyone else. It's because they are living paycheck to paycheck just like everyone else is. The only people that are truly benefiting from this are the top 1% that are part of the machine and 1% is being generous here they are probably the top 0.01%. |
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They'refixingtheroad
User ID: 78037386 United States 05/08/2020 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The funny money system has to end at some point. That point has now been reached and the money being created now is not a continuation of same but the cost of the reset. Quoting: The Searcher Gold backed currency to come and a reversion back to the old way of doing things. No more free money no more endless credit. You want a mortgage, it's 50% deposit down or no mortgage. There will be a lot of pain but it will get better in time. How about no more usury fees???? You lend and receive bck in equal value or less you enslave in usury... needs to end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78389967 United States 05/09/2020 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THIS IS SUCH FUCKING BULLSHIT Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78885087 THE SMALL BUSINESSES ARE ORDERED TO CLOSE WHILE WALMART IS ALLOWED TO OPEN. WALMART IS BYPASSING THE CURFEW HOURS THAT OTHER BUSINESSES ARE ALLOWED TO OPEN. WALMART IS GETTING INTO THE LIQUOR BUSINESS ALSO. IT IS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS THE GOVERNMENT OWNS WALMART AND DOESNT WANT SMALL BUSINESS. I FORGOT THEY HAD THE FUCKING PRINTING OUT CDC PROPAGANDA SOCIAL DISTANCING SET UP IN RECORD TIME FOR NATIONWIDE CHAIN OF STORES DO YOU REALIZE HOW FUCKING HARD IT IS TO DO THAT FOR 50 STATES AND SO FAST??? ALL THE MORE PROOF THAT WALMART IS A GOVERNMENT ARM SMALL BUSINEESES MUST STAY CLOSED SO 3 PEOPLE IN A FUCKING STORE DO NOT CATCH A VIRUS SORRY too much coffee IT IS SUCH BULLSHIT LOL coffee is good for you... That’s the first thing my brain said when seeing all the new, custom made signs about the Hoax/virus. They had them all made within days and distributed across the nation to every store just like that huh? BS! And the plexiglass too.... hardware stores must’ve had a shit Tom is stock at every store across the nation....again BS! Trump compared this “attack” to Pearl Harbor and 911....both of which were false flags. It’s a damn staged hoax people, it’s more than obvious now And how do you explain an instant nationwide TP shortage? Etc etc etc |
dschis1000
User ID: 77525785 United States 05/09/2020 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The funny money system has to end at some point. That point has now been reached and the money being created now is not a continuation of same but the cost of the reset. Quoting: The Searcher Gold backed currency to come and a reversion back to the old way of doing things. No more free money no more endless credit. You want a mortgage, it's 50% deposit down or no mortgage. There will be a lot of pain but it will get better in time. All the Shemitah and Jubillees that haven't been done, will be. He's dropping the hammer on the rest of it too. God maybe but not any depends wearing adderal sniffing president who was bailed out by Rothschild via Wilbur Ross who he appointed commerce Secretary. Whatever, Trump gave a bit of a respite. However, the nation (or parts of it) hasn't even made an attempt at repenting. At least the orange man made an attempt at repenting. The Revealing is happening. Those who think they are wise will be shown to be fools. |