| Users Online Now: 1,695 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 511,730 | |
| Pageviews Today: 788,863 | Threads Today: 308 | Posts Today: 4,091 |
| 08:54 AM | ||
| Users Online Now: 1,695 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 511,730 | |
| Pageviews Today: 788,863 | Threads Today: 308 | Posts Today: 4,091 |
| 08:54 AM | ||
Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78320186  United States05/12/2020 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77727754  Canada05/12/2020 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77727754 Canada05/12/2020 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
MrReality
 User ID: 47345121 Canada05/12/2020 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? Don't be stupid just because you don't pay millions in taxes daily some Corps and people do. Just because the MSM tells you one side (what we own) they never tell you what we are "Owed" Trump has so listen closely. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ What is the USA owed and for what ? How much does the USA owe Syria for the war they started and ISIS? How much do they owe Iraq, for the fake WMD and destroying the nation, what about Libya ? Why are there troops in Syria still ? Yes guarding the oil. What does the USA owe Russia for sanctions over fake news ?  Last Edited by MrReality on 05/12/2020 08:40 PM wmMmw |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78906471 United States05/12/2020 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? The ballgame is almost over. The numbers do not lie. There is no escaping the black hole of debt into which the whole world has fallen. Sort of...eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die... Not everyone is in debt. Most all are, though. Remember who actually owns the financial 'printing-presses'. Those families are who YOU owe apx $19.05T sovereign-personal debt and $5.9T of intergovernmental-debt.. As of May 1, 2020 federal debt held by the public was $19.05 trillion and intragovernmental debt-holdings were $5.9 trillion, for a total national debt of $24.95 trillion. [link to www.usdebtclock.org (secure)] That is ABSOLUTELY NOT true. The debts incurred by the US Federal Government are NOT the debts of individual citizens. The Constitution of the United States gives the government THE POWER of taxation to pay back ITS DEBTS. You can't get blood out of a turnip. If the Federal Government DEFAULTED on ITS DEBTS, everyone who holds US securities would take it up the ass.  ...and that's the name of THAT tune. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68965544 United States05/12/2020 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? Where is the trillions coming from? We print it. It’s that easy. You can’t create a one world government without destroying the previous system. And to do that you NEED monetary systems to reset to induce total compliance. It will take time, decades in fact. Yet you need to start somewhere. I don’t think it will happen in my lifetime, however, they are setting the corner stones. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68965544 They still have to eliminate Patriots, gun ownership, private and home schooling, intelligence, free will, and National borders. That will take time. We can’t stop it, but we can delay it. That should be our focus! It will happen in a year at most. I think. Already you are sitting at home, more or less and the Fed printers are on overdrive. There is plans for a vaccine that might be voluntary but to refuse is to accept consequences that are not welcome to most. 5G is being implemented, prices on goods are already rising and there's the economy. So how can you delay it ? How do we slow it down? Simple, Joe the plumber. Stacy that does hair or Michael the garbage man. If we put regular people in positions of government, we plug up the pipeline and timeline. Votes matter as much as the man or woman you select. A poor man looks at a dumpster with happiness knowing he will eat. That same man knowing hardships elected to government, knows hardship. He understands hungry and humble. He has ideas and compaction. And that man will work his ass of to make sure over his 3rd and last year in government is productive for the people. That’s right. Term limits on all government offices State and Federal. He could turn out to be a piece of shit, taking every lobby dollars throw at him(we should make that illegal), which is true. But in the end they didn’t factor is ol Bob, and they have to retool. The President of the United States should be example enough. If you throw in enough wrenches, the machine must slow down. It doesn’t stop, but it does slow down. |
| Michibama
User ID: 78437117 United States05/12/2020 08:45 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? I think we're under a new form of government and they haven't bothered to tell us yet. Only "new normal"  “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” |
| MrReality
User ID: 47345121 Canada05/12/2020 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? Where is the trillions coming from? We print it. It’s that easy. You can’t create a one world government without destroying the previous system. And to do that you NEED monetary systems to reset to induce total compliance. It will take time, decades in fact. Yet you need to start somewhere. I don’t think it will happen in my lifetime, however, they are setting the corner stones. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68965544 They still have to eliminate Patriots, gun ownership, private and home schooling, intelligence, free will, and National borders. That will take time. We can’t stop it, but we can delay it. That should be our focus! It will happen in a year at most. I think. Already you are sitting at home, more or less and the Fed printers are on overdrive. There is plans for a vaccine that might be voluntary but to refuse is to accept consequences that are not welcome to most. 5G is being implemented, prices on goods are already rising and there's the economy. So how can you delay it ? How do we slow it down? Simple, Joe the plumber. Stacy that does hair or Michael the garbage man. If we put regular people in positions of government, we plug up the pipeline and timeline. Votes matter as much as the man or woman you select. A poor man looks at a dumpster with happiness knowing he will eat. That same man knowing hardships elected to government, knows hardship. He understands hungry and humble. He has ideas and compaction. And that man will work his ass of to make sure over his 3rd and last year in government is productive for the people. That’s right. Term limits on all government offices State and Federal. He could turn out to be a piece of shit, taking every lobby dollars throw at him(we should make that illegal), which is true. But in the end they didn’t factor is ol Bob, and they have to retool. The President of the United States should be example enough. If you throw in enough wrenches, the machine must slow down. It doesn’t stop, but it does slow down. You are the first one to write this I agree 100%. So do it. Should have been done during 911. Problem is you are alone as most are too selfish, afraid and apathetic. If your ancestors resembled this generation there would be no USA. And most that are somewhat awake are putting a false hope into Trump as they are little like their fathers. I am not saying this to be mean, or I hate the USA, or Trump or anysuch nonsense, just stating the facts. It's do or die time, even in Canada where the problems are not as complex as the US yet. wmMmw |
| BBQ BOY™
User ID: 77857043 United States05/12/2020 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? Don't be stupid just because you don't pay millions in taxes daily some Corps and people do. Just because the MSM tells you one side (what we own) they never tell you what we are "Owed" Trump has so listen closely. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ What is the USA owed and for what ? How much does the USA owe Syria for the war they started and ISIS? How much do they owe Iraq, for the fake WMD and destroying the nation, what about Libya ? Why are there troops in Syria still ? Yes guarding the oil. What does the USA owe Russia for sanctions over fake news ? Aw Jesus Christ you cant be that be that STUPID try NATO, The UN, WHO, just for starters. Then go search the IMF we the US and its Taxpayers pay for everything.  Last Edited by BBQ BOY™ on 05/12/2020 08:48 PM "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
| MrReality
User ID: 47345121 Canada05/12/2020 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? Don't be stupid just because you don't pay millions in taxes daily some Corps and people do. Just because the MSM tells you one side (what we own) they never tell you what we are "Owed" Trump has so listen closely. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ What is the USA owed and for what ? How much does the USA owe Syria for the war they started and ISIS? How much do they owe Iraq, for the fake WMD and destroying the nation, what about Libya ? Why are there troops in Syria still ? Yes guarding the oil. What does the USA owe Russia for sanctions over fake news ? Aw Jesus Christ you cant be that be that STUPID try NATO, The UN, WHO, just for starters. Then go search the IMF we the US and its Taxpayers pay for everything. For what ? If the US government chooses to fund terrorists or Israel ? Should everyone else chip in ? The SWAMP is SWAMP if the US is a part of it why should everyone else have to support it. Who runs the UN, WHO, NATO, etc ? What are you talking about ? wmMmw |
| MrReality
User ID: 47345121 Canada05/12/2020 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? Don't be stupid just because you don't pay millions in taxes daily some Corps and people do. Just because the MSM tells you one side (what we own) they never tell you what we are "Owed" Trump has so listen closely. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ What is the USA owed and for what ? How much does the USA owe Syria for the war they started and ISIS? How much do they owe Iraq, for the fake WMD and destroying the nation, what about Libya ? Why are there troops in Syria still ? Yes guarding the oil. What does the USA owe Russia for sanctions over fake news ? Aw Jesus Christ you cant be that be that STUPID try NATO, The UN, WHO, just for starters. Then go search the IMF we the US and its Taxpayers pay for everything. Ah hurt your feelings ? Wake up man spit out your Trump juice you are drunk and the orange man is lying to you. It's rigged. wmMmw |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77727754 Canada05/12/2020 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1298661 United States05/12/2020 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? Where is the trillions coming from? We print it. It’s that easy. You can’t create a one world government without destroying the previous system. And to do that you NEED monetary systems to reset to induce total compliance. It will take time, decades in fact. Yet you need to start somewhere. I don’t think it will happen in my lifetime, however, they are setting the corner stones. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68965544 They still have to eliminate Patriots, gun ownership, private and home schooling, intelligence, free will, and National borders. That will take time. We can’t stop it, but we can delay it. That should be our focus! It will happen in a year at most. I think. Already you are sitting at home, more or less and the Fed printers are on overdrive. There is plans for a vaccine that might be voluntary but to refuse is to accept consequences that are not welcome to most. 5G is being implemented, prices on goods are already rising and there's the economy. So how can you delay it ? How do we slow it down? Simple, Joe the plumber. Stacy that does hair or Michael the garbage man. If we put regular people in positions of government, we plug up the pipeline and timeline. Votes matter as much as the man or woman you select. A poor man looks at a dumpster with happiness knowing he will eat. That same man knowing hardships elected to government, knows hardship. He understands hungry and humble. He has ideas and compaction. And that man will work his ass of to make sure over his 3rd and last year in government is productive for the people. That’s right. Term limits on all government offices State and Federal. He could turn out to be a piece of shit, taking every lobby dollars throw at him(we should make that illegal), which is true. But in the end they didn’t factor is ol Bob, and they have to retool. The President of the United States should be example enough. If you throw in enough wrenches, the machine must slow down. It doesn’t stop, but it does slow down. Newt tried but couldn't get enough votes. The old contract with America days. |
| MrReality
User ID: 47345121 Canada05/12/2020 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? Where is the trillions coming from? We print it. It’s that easy. You can’t create a one world government without destroying the previous system. And to do that you NEED monetary systems to reset to induce total compliance. It will take time, decades in fact. Yet you need to start somewhere. I don’t think it will happen in my lifetime, however, they are setting the corner stones. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68965544 They still have to eliminate Patriots, gun ownership, private and home schooling, intelligence, free will, and National borders. That will take time. We can’t stop it, but we can delay it. That should be our focus! It will happen in a year at most. I think. Already you are sitting at home, more or less and the Fed printers are on overdrive. There is plans for a vaccine that might be voluntary but to refuse is to accept consequences that are not welcome to most. 5G is being implemented, prices on goods are already rising and there's the economy. So how can you delay it ? How do we slow it down? Simple, Joe the plumber. Stacy that does hair or Michael the garbage man. If we put regular people in positions of government, we plug up the pipeline and timeline. Votes matter as much as the man or woman you select. A poor man looks at a dumpster with happiness knowing he will eat. That same man knowing hardships elected to government, knows hardship. He understands hungry and humble. He has ideas and compaction. And that man will work his ass of to make sure over his 3rd and last year in government is productive for the people. That’s right. Term limits on all government offices State and Federal. He could turn out to be a piece of shit, taking every lobby dollars throw at him(we should make that illegal), which is true. But in the end they didn’t factor is ol Bob, and they have to retool. The President of the United States should be example enough. If you throw in enough wrenches, the machine must slow down. It doesn’t stop, but it does slow down. Newt tried but couldn't get enough votes. The old contract with America days. You need BBQ Boy or even big D or a trusted sheriff anyone that is accountable and has values, that is not willing to compromise them and can run a good executive team. With no skeletons, like owns casinos or bangs hookers or part of skull and bones or a mason. I know a few pastors that might do... but it's hard, even in Canada to find integrity. The problem is this between the funds and what they are used for are parasites. To such an extent that the military only sees 25% of the money allotted to them in actual productivity. It's the same with everything. There are are hundreds of thousands of Kushners drinking taxpayer blood at all levels. It's like the Roman Catholic Church. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Last Edited by MrReality on 05/12/2020 09:10 PM wmMmw |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78666235 United States05/12/2020 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Undestroyer
Truth User ID: 77075696 United States05/12/2020 09:11 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? Its all good until you cannot get what its worth im afraid. Hopefully we are not in that chapter. You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer. Thread: Food Combining Made Easy by Herbert Shelton a progenitor from the Natural Hygienist Movement "I am a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love... errr something like that." -Vash the Stampede |
| BNBG
User ID: 76607211 United States05/12/2020 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? Where is the trillions coming from? We print it. It’s that easy. You can’t create a one world government without destroying the previous system. And to do that you NEED monetary systems to reset to induce total compliance. It will take time, decades in fact. Yet you need to start somewhere. I don’t think it will happen in my lifetime, however, they are setting the corner stones. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68965544 They still have to eliminate Patriots, gun ownership, private and home schooling, intelligence, free will, and National borders. That will take time. We can’t stop it, but we can delay it. That should be our focus! It will happen in a year at most. I think. Already you are sitting at home, more or less and the Fed printers are on overdrive. There is plans for a vaccine that might be voluntary but to refuse is to accept consequences that are not welcome to most. 5G is being implemented, prices on goods are already rising and there's the economy. So how can you delay it ? How do we slow it down? Simple, Joe the plumber. Stacy that does hair or Michael the garbage man. If we put regular people in positions of government, we plug up the pipeline and timeline. Votes matter as much as the man or woman you select. A poor man looks at a dumpster with happiness knowing he will eat. That same man knowing hardships elected to government, knows hardship. He understands hungry and humble. He has ideas and compaction. And that man will work his ass of to make sure over his 3rd and last year in government is productive for the people. That’s right. Term limits on all government offices State and Federal. He could turn out to be a piece of shit, taking every lobby dollars throw at him(we should make that illegal), which is true. But in the end they didn’t factor is ol Bob, and they have to retool. The President of the United States should be example enough. If you throw in enough wrenches, the machine must slow down. It doesn’t stop, but it does slow down. We already have term limits. They're called ELECTIONS. There is NO WAY the people in Congress are going to vote for term limits. It will never happen. The only way to force them from office is to NEVER VOTE FOR INCUMBENTS. The criminals who make up Congress will not vote themselves out of jobs. We must take their jobs away. DON'T VOTE FOR INCUMBENTS. Even the ones you like. Throw them ALL out. "Peace in our time? All it took was everybody about to die." “The way I see it, there’s only three kinds of people in this world. Bad ones, ones you follow, and ones you need to protect.” - Amos Burton |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 44883436 United States05/12/2020 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77812575 United States05/12/2020 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? It almost seems like they are trying to crash the whole Damn thing. Quoting: ~Newton's Own~ They are borrowing and printing money at a furious pace to keep the house of cards standing for just a little while longer, while at the same time closing food production plants and selling food supplies overseas. You got red states trying to open up and blue states calling for more lock downs, more restrictions. Food supply is going to become a real issue in the coming months. Just what are they buying time for? They can't keep these payments up for long, so just what IS this all about? Why do you think they are giving so much of it away. Pelosi and co wanna give me 6k a month. The only reason they would give the peasants all that free money is if it's about to be worthless. |
| Pilgrim001
User ID: 78018011 United States05/12/2020 09:15 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? We just increase the limit on the "credit card" to ourselves that we will have to pay back to ourselves someday. See? It all works out! Quoting: TGus The thing is, we will never pay it back. But..we will pay interest on it until the day we die. This IS SLAVERY. They harvest the results of our labor, just so we can use their stinking USD's. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77203973 United States05/12/2020 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78875821 United States05/12/2020 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78277869 Canada05/12/2020 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? It almost seems like they are trying to crash the whole Damn thing. Quoting: ~Newton's Own~ They are borrowing and printing money at a furious pace to keep the house of cards standing for just a little while longer, while at the same time closing food production plants and selling food supplies overseas. You got red states trying to open up and blue states calling for more lock downs, more restrictions. Food supply is going to become a real issue in the coming months. Just what are they buying time for? They can't keep these payments up for long, so just what IS this all about? When your money is the world reserve currency then you can do whatever you want. Inflation is still a real thing, but that is easy to keep tabs on. And thats the whole reason all of this happened. BECAUSE IT'S NOT ANY MORE you moron. You’re the Moran Name the world reserve currency then.. This should be good |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78277869 Canada05/12/2020 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? At the end of WW2 this is how it looked. Quoting: MlCHAEL Total credit market debt = 363,614,000,000 364 Billion Dollars Total credit market debt is the money supply It's all the money the population has requested commercial banks to create or issue. The public debt = 258,682,000,000 259 Billion Dollars It's the money the US Government has borrowed from the money supply by issuing bonds. In 1945 the US government had borrowed 259 Billion dollars of the 364 Billion dollar money supply. 259/364 = 0.71 So the US Government had borrowed 71% of the money supply by the end of WW2. Current situation? Total credit market debt = 77,283,520,000,000 77.2 Trillion Dollars. It's all the money the population has requested commercial banks to create or issue. The public debt = 25,162,474,000,000 25.1 Trillion Dollars 25.1/77.2 = 0.32 Meaning that the US Government has borrowed 32% of the money supply. The US Government could borrow another 25 Trillion dollars and still be less in debt than they were following WW2. The USA is not close to bankruptcy. Of course online you all seem to get suckered by promoters of this disinformation.  |
| CavScout
User ID: 77856667 United States05/12/2020 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? We all know they can just print money out of thin air and add it to a fake balance sheet that will never paid back. As long as oil is a major commodity and it continues to be predominately traded with the US dollar, this paradigm continues--not to mention never ending regime change wars and sneaky unaccountable CIA actions in foreign lands. We need this shit to crash in order to heal the damage we inflict in the world. Problem is, we all benefit immensely from it--even if we're not billionaires, we still get table scraps that ensure we life better than the vast majority of the world. I'm using my government stimulus and inflated unemployment benefits to buy long-term food, firearms, and ammunition. Get it while you can and before inflation kicks in. I heard from a friend that Whole Foods is increasing the price of food 14% across the board. Just the tip of the iceberg, friends. CavScout |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78077376 Canada05/12/2020 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| geerod
User ID: 36876439 United States05/12/2020 09:20 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78093232 Nothing you are saying is untrue, op. the only question is what are you going to do to protect yourself and your loved ones from the pending destructive forces? best of luck. . We're prepared. Thanks for asking. Best of luck to you as well. we have built a monetary system which depends upon the continuous creation of debt. we have leveraged that up and extended our monetary powers throughout the world. we have (as a nation) gotten rich beyond excess using unsound principles and methods. every monetary system throughout history has a beginning and an ending. we are witnessing end effects of the current system. Agreed. But they are also buying time, prolonging that collapse for some very special reason. I just can't figure out what it is yet. The coming earth changes sir! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72698592 United States05/12/2020 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? It almost seems like they are trying to crash the whole Damn thing. Quoting: ~Newton's Own~ They are borrowing and printing money at a furious pace to keep the house of cards standing for just a little while longer, while at the same time closing food production plants and selling food supplies overseas. You got red states trying to open up and blue states calling for more lock downs, more restrictions. Food supply is going to become a real issue in the coming months. Just what are they buying time for? They can't keep these payments up for long, so just what IS this all about? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78899703 Canada05/12/2020 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| MrReality
User ID: 47345121 Canada05/12/2020 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Where is the trillions coming from for payments and bailouts when our nation is essentially bankrupt? The crazy part is I beleive it can be done. If a leader was found that would be committed to restructuring and not selling out to the NWO/ Zionist/ Satanic cabal. Why couldn't a deal be made ? Sanctions dropped no more US wars. Rigid austerity. Or just tax the SWAMP for stealing the wealth of the common man. Does anyone need a billion dollars while others are starving ? Why ? The money of most of the billionaires was stolen through bailouts, inside deals, vice such as gambling, etc. But the SWAMP does not want this, they would rather see war. wmMmw |
