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There is no such thing as a "corn farmer". If all you produce is a single crop, you are an industrial agriculture operations manager. They strip the soil of tilth, poison it with herbicides and insecticides and then think that they can get away with using a meaningful word like "farming" to describe what they do?

Fuck. No.
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So, stop eating tacos.
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Wheat Tacos?
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There is no such thing as a "corn farmer". If all you produce is a single crop, you are an industrial agriculture operations manager. They strip the soil of tilth, poison it with herbicides and insecticides and then think that they can get away with using a meaningful word like "farming" to describe what they do?

Fuck. No.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76531980


Here is a good article on Chaos Farming. Instead of a normal cover crop the farmers are planting a huge variety of vegetables using the no-till method. What ever grows, grows and then the farmers give it a way or sell very inexpensively. The customers have to go into all the chaos and harvest their own produce from the farmer.

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In commercial ag no till means spray it with glyphosate then run your corn drill or grain over it.

Back to Eden, permie style no till is good for all living things.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Hopefully they are not using glyphosate. It sounds like the mixture of seeds is such a variety that insects have a hard time destroying the crops.

I once planted a garden this way using permaculture techniques. The garden was the most chaotic but bountiful garden I ever had. The problem was that my wife hated it.

She did not know how or where to harvest the fruits and vegetables. You would locate a squash here and a cucumber over there. Beans were really hard to find.

To the lay person the garden looked like a pile of weeds but all the leaves were to a vegetable or fruit. Insects had no idea what they were looking at since the leaves were so intermixed from different vegetables. There we absolutely no weeds. All the weeds were shaded out by the quantity of fruits and vegetables.
 Quoting: Achduke7


I've come across a treasure trove of using the no-till method effectively. This guy Gabe Brown has been using the no-till without pesticides, without GMO's, without chemical fertilizers, etc.

Here's a link to a video series + Q&A with this guy. I'd say that farmers should utilize his techniques in order to become more sustainable with farming practices:

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Here is a good article on Chaos Farming. Instead of a normal cover crop the farmers are planting a huge variety of vegetables using the no-till method. What ever grows, grows and then the farmers give it a way or sell very inexpensively. The customers have to go into all the chaos and harvest their own produce from the farmer.

[link to civileats.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Achduke7



In commercial ag no till means spray it with glyphosate then run your corn drill or grain over it.

Back to Eden, permie style no till is good for all living things.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Hopefully they are not using glyphosate. It sounds like the mixture of seeds is such a variety that insects have a hard time destroying the crops.

I once planted a garden this way using permaculture techniques. The garden was the most chaotic but bountiful garden I ever had. The problem was that my wife hated it.

She did not know how or where to harvest the fruits and vegetables. You would locate a squash here and a cucumber over there. Beans were really hard to find.

To the lay person the garden looked like a pile of weeds but all the leaves were to a vegetable or fruit. Insects had no idea what they were looking at since the leaves were so intermixed from different vegetables. There we absolutely no weeds. All the weeds were shaded out by the quantity of fruits and vegetables.
 Quoting: Achduke7


I've come across a treasure trove of using the no-till method effectively. This guy Gabe Brown has been using the no-till without pesticides, without GMO's, without chemical fertilizers, etc.

Here's a link to a video series + Q&A with this guy. I'd say that farmers should utilize his techniques in order to become more sustainable with farming practices:


 Quoting: phillk6751


Check out the videos I posted from Mark Shepard. He plants food forests in Wisconsin and uses animals to work the land for him.
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A lot of the corn grown is so GMO that it is inedible.
They use it for BIO-diesel & an HFCS - High Fructose Corn Syrup (a very cheap sweetener).

And not only do they heavily spray it but they put pesticides right IN the corn. BT Corn. The BT Toxin is bred into the corn. Ever get a belly ache after eating corn chips or anything else made with corn?
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Why would they destroy the corn when it can be used as fuel??
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In commercial ag no till means spray it with glyphosate then run your corn drill or grain over it.

Back to Eden, permie style no till is good for all living things.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Hopefully they are not using glyphosate. It sounds like the mixture of seeds is such a variety that insects have a hard time destroying the crops.

I once planted a garden this way using permaculture techniques. The garden was the most chaotic but bountiful garden I ever had. The problem was that my wife hated it.

She did not know how or where to harvest the fruits and vegetables. You would locate a squash here and a cucumber over there. Beans were really hard to find.

To the lay person the garden looked like a pile of weeds but all the leaves were to a vegetable or fruit. Insects had no idea what they were looking at since the leaves were so intermixed from different vegetables. There we absolutely no weeds. All the weeds were shaded out by the quantity of fruits and vegetables.
 Quoting: Achduke7


I've come across a treasure trove of using the no-till method effectively. This guy Gabe Brown has been using the no-till without pesticides, without GMO's, without chemical fertilizers, etc.

Here's a link to a video series + Q&A with this guy. I'd say that farmers should utilize his techniques in order to become more sustainable with farming practices:


 Quoting: phillk6751


Check out the videos I posted from Mark Shepard. He plants food forests in Wisconsin and uses animals to work the land for him.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Sounds like Mark Shepard is in the same camp...restorative farming, using cover crops to pull carbon from the atmosphere and depositing it into the soil, crimping down cover crops as essentially a "mulch", reducing erosion and looking at bugs & "weeds" as a beneficial ecosystem instead of as pests. Gabe Brown mentioned that they're looking at creating a food label for restoration farmed, and he's all for it as long as they add nutrient density as a gauge or by setting requirements for nutrient densities. Also the idea of monocropping being detrimential, and looking at plant diversity as a good thing.

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In early January, President Trump told his followers at a campaign rally in Toledo, Ohio, that the "economy is booming," and farmers should "go buy larger tractors" ahead of the trade deal that was signed mid-month. Farmers bought those tractors, extra seed, and fertilizer,

Reuters said corn farmers are set to face steep losses this year as spot prices tumble to the lowest in a decade, and the planting season is the second-largest since the Great Depression.

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ANTICHRIST WINNING!

MAGA!

lmao that's what happens when you trust a liar.

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He wasn't talking about OBAMA you twit
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My cows love corn.

Its another form of "stacking".

Hope I can find room to store a bunch.
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Hopefully they are not using glyphosate. It sounds like the mixture of seeds is such a variety that insects have a hard time destroying the crops.

I once planted a garden this way using permaculture techniques. The garden was the most chaotic but bountiful garden I ever had. The problem was that my wife hated it.

She did not know how or where to harvest the fruits and vegetables. You would locate a squash here and a cucumber over there. Beans were really hard to find.

To the lay person the garden looked like a pile of weeds but all the leaves were to a vegetable or fruit. Insects had no idea what they were looking at since the leaves were so intermixed from different vegetables. There we absolutely no weeds. All the weeds were shaded out by the quantity of fruits and vegetables.
 Quoting: Achduke7


I've come across a treasure trove of using the no-till method effectively. This guy Gabe Brown has been using the no-till without pesticides, without GMO's, without chemical fertilizers, etc.

Here's a link to a video series + Q&A with this guy. I'd say that farmers should utilize his techniques in order to become more sustainable with farming practices:


 Quoting: phillk6751


Check out the videos I posted from Mark Shepard. He plants food forests in Wisconsin and uses animals to work the land for him.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Sounds like Mark Shepard is in the same camp...restorative farming, using cover crops to pull carbon from the atmosphere and depositing it into the soil, crimping down cover crops as essentially a "mulch", reducing erosion and looking at bugs & "weeds" as a beneficial ecosystem instead of as pests. Gabe Brown mentioned that they're looking at creating a food label for restoration farmed, and he's all for it as long as they add nutrient density as a gauge or by setting requirements for nutrient densities. Also the idea of monocropping being detrimential, and looking at plant diversity as a good thing.
 Quoting: phillk6751


I read that he bought cheap rocky beat up farm land and restored it. His book Restoration Agriculture is good.
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In early January, President Trump told his followers at a campaign rally in Toledo, Ohio, that the "economy is booming," and farmers should "go buy larger tractors" ahead of the trade deal that was signed mid-month. Farmers bought those tractors, extra seed, and fertilizer, gearing up for the "greatest year ever," as trade with China was supposed to ramp up.

In a cruel twist for farmers, a diplomatic spat between Washington DC and Beijing has unfolded in recent weeks as the US-China trade deal is at risk of falling apart. Beijing wants the Trump administration to renegotiate the deal due to the external demand for agricultural products that have collapsed from the pandemic. President Trump has responded by saying there's no appetite for negotiations as it now appears China will have trouble upholding its end of purchase agreements.

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Reuters said corn farmers are set to face steep losses this year as spot prices tumble to the lowest in a decade, and the planting season is the second-largest since the Great Depression.

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every word trump says is to trick people. every statement is a lie. even if it's true it' told as part of a larger deception

he wanted them to buy new tractors because the new tractors can be turned off remotely, have the latest software design.

Israel could starve you all to death by pressing a button. it is a fact. those tractors and farm machinery simply will not work if the software doesn't work. it's like your car, no computer there's no way you can make your car run
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In early January, President Trump told his followers at a campaign rally in Toledo, Ohio, that the "economy is booming," and farmers should "go buy larger tractors" ahead of the trade deal that was signed mid-month. Farmers bought those tractors, extra seed, and fertilizer, gearing up for the "greatest year ever," as trade with China was supposed to ramp up.

In a cruel twist for farmers, a diplomatic spat between Washington DC and Beijing has unfolded in recent weeks as the US-China trade deal is at risk of falling apart. Beijing wants the Trump administration to renegotiate the deal due to the external demand for agricultural products that have collapsed from the pandemic. President Trump has responded by saying there's no appetite for negotiations as it now appears China will have trouble upholding its end of purchase agreements.

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Reuters said corn farmers are set to face steep losses this year as spot prices tumble to the lowest in a decade, and the planting season is the second-largest since the Great Depression.

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I thought we made Ethanol from excess corn
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Can't we fucking store corn and shit like the egyptian did????
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They didnt have corn in Egypt brainchild.
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The word "corn" used to be a general term for any type of grain.
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In early January, President Trump told his followers at a campaign rally in Toledo, Ohio, that the "economy is booming," and farmers should "go buy larger tractors" ahead of the trade deal that was signed mid-month. Farmers bought those tractors, extra seed, and fertilizer, gearing up for the "greatest year ever," as trade with China was supposed to ramp up.

In a cruel twist for farmers, a diplomatic spat between Washington DC and Beijing has unfolded in recent weeks as the US-China trade deal is at risk of falling apart. Beijing wants the Trump administration to renegotiate the deal due to the external demand for agricultural products that have collapsed from the pandemic. President Trump has responded by saying there's no appetite for negotiations as it now appears China will have trouble upholding its end of purchase agreements.

...

Reuters said corn farmers are set to face steep losses this year as spot prices tumble to the lowest in a decade, and the planting season is the second-largest since the Great Depression.

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 Quoting: Happy in Nature


every word trump says is to trick people. every statement is a lie. even if it's true it' told as part of a larger deception

he wanted them to buy new tractors because the new tractors can be turned off remotely, have the latest software design.

Israel could starve you all to death by pressing a button. it is a fact. those tractors and farm machinery simply will not work if the software doesn't work. it's like your car, no computer there's no way you can make your car run
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78914235


Israel wants us to turn to Moshiach, to turn to G-d. Christianity has not done enough to stop the crime rate and child pedophiles , drug addictions, pornography addictions and materialistic greed in this country

Eating pork btw. contributes to unhealthy desires. It was known as a aphrodisiac in many cultures
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In early January, President Trump told his followers at a campaign rally in Toledo, Ohio, that the "economy is booming," and farmers should "go buy larger tractors" ahead of the trade deal that was signed mid-month. Farmers bought those tractors, extra seed, and fertilizer, gearing up for the "greatest year ever," as trade with China was supposed to ramp up.

In a cruel twist for farmers, a diplomatic spat between Washington DC and Beijing has unfolded in recent weeks as the US-China trade deal is at risk of falling apart. Beijing wants the Trump administration to renegotiate the deal due to the external demand for agricultural products that have collapsed from the pandemic. President Trump has responded by saying there's no appetite for negotiations as it now appears China will have trouble upholding its end of purchase agreements.

...

Reuters said corn farmers are set to face steep losses this year as spot prices tumble to the lowest in a decade, and the planting season is the second-largest since the Great Depression.

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 Quoting: Happy in Nature


I thought we made Ethanol from excess corn
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It costs more in energy than it produces. Ethanol mandates in gasoline were a giveaway to corn producers.
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There is no such thing as a "corn farmer". If all you produce is a single crop, you are an industrial agriculture operations manager. They strip the soil of tilth, poison it with herbicides and insecticides and then think that they can get away with using a meaningful word like "farming" to describe what they do?

Fuck. No.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76531980


So, stop eating tacos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75882444


When I buy corn tortillas Im shocked how cheap it is, enough corn tortillas to feed 20+ people for two bucks

Now I know how Mexican Americans can raise and feed 6-8 children easily

A giant industrial size can of pozole was only a few bucks as well
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That's what they get for selling out to Monsanto
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Good, there will be plenty of corncobs to cover the Charmin Apocalypse.
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every word trump says is to trick people. every statement is a lie. even if it's true it' told as part of a larger deception

he wanted them to buy new tractors because the new tractors can be turned off remotely, have the latest software design.

Israel could starve you all to death by pressing a button. it is a fact. those tractors and farm machinery simply will not work if the software doesn't work. it's like your car, no computer there's no way you can make your car run
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You need to get mental health intervention.
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There is no such thing as a "corn farmer". If all you produce is a single crop, you are an industrial agriculture operations manager. They strip the soil of tilth, poison it with herbicides and insecticides and then think that they can get away with using a meaningful word like "farming" to describe what they do?

Fuck. No.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76531980


Here is a good article on Chaos Farming. Instead of a normal cover crop the farmers are planting a huge variety of vegetables using the no-till method. What ever grows, grows and then the farmers give it a way or sell very inexpensively. The customers have to go into all the chaos and harvest their own produce from the farmer.

[link to civileats.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Achduke7


That is a wonderful idea.
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The nightmare..desication!!!
Along with wheat and oats, glyphosate is used to desiccate a wide range of other crops including lentils, peas, non-GMO soybeans, corn, flax, rye, triticale, buckwheat, millet, canola, sugar beets and potatoes. Sunflowers may also be treated pre-harvest with glyphosate, according to the National Sunflower Association.

The main component of glyphosate is it prevents the uptake of nutrients to the plant there for it dies then when you eat it it does the very same thing. You wonder why there are so many GI diseases celiac cancer.
Golfing industry cant use glyphosate.. banned by their Risk insurance company.. but they can feed it to you in your food
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There is no such thing as a "corn farmer". If all you produce is a single crop, you are an industrial agriculture operations manager. They strip the soil of tilth, poison it with herbicides and insecticides and then think that they can get away with using a meaningful word like "farming" to describe what they do?

Fuck. No.
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Bingo
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Keep saying this,we aint seen nothing yet.
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Hopefully they are not using glyphosate. It sounds like the mixture of seeds is such a variety that insects have a hard time destroying the crops.

I once planted a garden this way using permaculture techniques. The garden was the most chaotic but bountiful garden I ever had. The problem was that my wife hated it.

She did not know how or where to harvest the fruits and vegetables. You would locate a squash here and a cucumber over there. Beans were really hard to find.

To the lay person the garden looked like a pile of weeds but all the leaves were to a vegetable or fruit. Insects had no idea what they were looking at since the leaves were so intermixed from different vegetables. There we absolutely no weeds. All the weeds were shaded out by the quantity of fruits and vegetables.
 Quoting: Achduke7


I've come across a treasure trove of using the no-till method effectively. This guy Gabe Brown has been using the no-till without pesticides, without GMO's, without chemical fertilizers, etc.

Here's a link to a video series + Q&A with this guy. I'd say that farmers should utilize his techniques in order to become more sustainable with farming practices:


 Quoting: phillk6751


Check out the videos I posted from Mark Shepard. He plants food forests in Wisconsin and uses animals to work the land for him.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Sounds like Mark Shepard is in the same camp...restorative farming, using cover crops to pull carbon from the atmosphere and depositing it into the soil, crimping down cover crops as essentially a "mulch", reducing erosion and looking at bugs & "weeds" as a beneficial ecosystem instead of as pests. Gabe Brown mentioned that they're looking at creating a food label for restoration farmed, and he's all for it as long as they add nutrient density as a gauge or by setting requirements for nutrient densities. Also the idea of monocropping being detrimential, and looking at plant diversity as a good thing.
 Quoting: phillk6751


A decade ago I turned an acre of old cattle land into an heirloom garden using the no till method, lasagna gardening, companion planting and putting fruit and veggie peels and coffee grounds directly into the soil, as I didn't have time to make that much compost. I owned a cafe, so I had access to tons of fresh waste. I found that bugs preferred certain varieties over others, so I allowed them to decimate 20% of my melon varieties without having to do organic pesticides on the rest of the garden. It is easier to work with the natural environment rather than fight it.
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There is no such thing as a "corn farmer". If all you produce is a single crop, you are an industrial agriculture operations manager. They strip the soil of tilth, poison it with herbicides and insecticides and then think that they can get away with using a meaningful word like "farming" to describe what they do?

Fuck. No.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76531980


Here is a good article on Chaos Farming. Instead of a normal cover crop the farmers are planting a huge variety of vegetables using the no-till method. What ever grows, grows and then the farmers give it a way or sell very inexpensively. The customers have to go into all the chaos and harvest their own produce from the farmer.

[link to civileats.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Achduke7


That is a wonderful idea.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


You can't throw a bunch of mixed vegetable seeds on an untilled field and expect them to magically grow.

The fucking "chaos garden" pictured is a sunflower field.

So many of you get your "knowledge" from idiot sources.
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Don't worry, all that corn will be used to make Purell.

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There is no such thing as a "corn farmer". If all you produce is a single crop, you are an industrial agriculture operations manager. They strip the soil of tilth, poison it with herbicides and insecticides and then think that they can get away with using a meaningful word like "farming" to describe what they do?

Fuck. No.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76531980


Here is a good article on Chaos Farming. Instead of a normal cover crop the farmers are planting a huge variety of vegetables using the no-till method. What ever grows, grows and then the farmers give it a way or sell very inexpensively. The customers have to go into all the chaos and harvest their own produce from the farmer.

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 Quoting: Achduke7


That is a wonderful idea.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


You can't throw a bunch of mixed vegetable seeds on an untilled field and expect them to magically grow.

The fucking "chaos garden" pictured is a sunflower field.

So many of you get your "knowledge" from idiot sources.
 Quoting: Jon Titor ™


The first photo shows a mix of veggies.

I live on 8 acres of an old farm. I throw all of my seeds into the fields and with zero effort or care, I managed to harvest butternut squash, chilies, cucumbers, and summer squash. (I have a regular garden, too.) I have tossed veggie seeds along the roadside for year.
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In commercial ag no till means spray it with glyphosate then run your corn drill or grain over it.

Back to Eden, permie style no till is good for all living things.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Hopefully they are not using glyphosate. It sounds like the mixture of seeds is such a variety that insects have a hard time destroying the crops.

I once planted a garden this way using permaculture techniques. The garden was the most chaotic but bountiful garden I ever had. The problem was that my wife hated it.

She did not know how or where to harvest the fruits and vegetables. You would locate a squash here and a cucumber over there. Beans were really hard to find.

To the lay person the garden looked like a pile of weeds but all the leaves were to a vegetable or fruit. Insects had no idea what they were looking at since the leaves were so intermixed from different vegetables. There we absolutely no weeds. All the weeds were shaded out by the quantity of fruits and vegetables.
 Quoting: Achduke7


I've come across a treasure trove of using the no-till method effectively. This guy Gabe Brown has been using the no-till without pesticides, without GMO's, without chemical fertilizers, etc.

Here's a link to a video series + Q&A with this guy. I'd say that farmers should utilize his techniques in order to become more sustainable with farming practices:


 Quoting: phillk6751


Check out the videos I posted from Mark Shepard. He plants food forests in Wisconsin and uses animals to work the land for him.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Great video. I am only half way through it but he reiterates a lot of what I have learned and puts it in a very easy to understand way.

It is all about the soil and water retention. No till is the way.

I only keep a small raised garden myself but I use no-till and heavy composting on my garden. All my grass and leaves that are in abundance go to my garden in the fall for planting in the spring.

I plant my seeds with a johnny apple stick which does not compact the soil and I do not have to till.
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There is no such thing as a "corn farmer". If all you produce is a single crop, you are an industrial agriculture operations manager. They strip the soil of tilth, poison it with herbicides and insecticides and then think that they can get away with using a meaningful word like "farming" to describe what they do?

Fuck. No.
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Here is a good article on Chaos Farming. Instead of a normal cover crop the farmers are planting a huge variety of vegetables using the no-till method. What ever grows, grows and then the farmers give it a way or sell very inexpensively. The customers have to go into all the chaos and harvest their own produce from the farmer.

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That is a wonderful idea.
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You can't throw a bunch of mixed vegetable seeds on an untilled field and expect them to magically grow.

The fucking "chaos garden" pictured is a sunflower field.

So many of you get your "knowledge" from idiot sources.
 Quoting: Jon Titor ™


Use seed bombs. They do grow. I bet even if you throw seeds directly on the soil some would grow. You could also walk over the seeds with cleats the help plant them if your soil is loose and has good humus.

I use a johnny apple seed stick to plant. It is as easy as walking and planting seeds.

I have planted a chaos garden for many years and they do work but are harder to harvest.

Also the chaos garden in the picture has a lot of different fruits and vegtables. Look in the ladies hands those are not sunflowers although there are a lot of sunflowers intermixed in the garden.


Why be such a Debbie downer. Seeds are cheap. You are not going to lose much money or time for a small garden using no-till and the chaos method.

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There is no such thing as a "corn farmer". If all you produce is a single crop, you are an industrial agriculture operations manager. They strip the soil of tilth, poison it with herbicides and insecticides and then think that they can get away with using a meaningful word like "farming" to describe what they do?

Fuck. No.
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Here is a good article on Chaos Farming. Instead of a normal cover crop the farmers are planting a huge variety of vegetables using the no-till method. What ever grows, grows and then the farmers give it a way or sell very inexpensively. The customers have to go into all the chaos and harvest their own produce from the farmer.

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That is a wonderful idea.
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You can't throw a bunch of mixed vegetable seeds on an untilled field and expect them to magically grow.

The fucking "chaos garden" pictured is a sunflower field.

So many of you get your "knowledge" from idiot sources.
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Lmao, a picture of some rando woman holding a couple of veggies in the middle of a sunflower field...
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Here is a good article on Chaos Farming. Instead of a normal cover crop the farmers are planting a huge variety of vegetables using the no-till method. What ever grows, grows and then the farmers give it a way or sell very inexpensively. The customers have to go into all the chaos and harvest their own produce from the farmer.

[link to civileats.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Achduke7


That is a wonderful idea.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


You can't throw a bunch of mixed vegetable seeds on an untilled field and expect them to magically grow.

The fucking "chaos garden" pictured is a sunflower field.

So many of you get your "knowledge" from idiot sources.
 Quoting: Jon Titor ™


Use seed bombs. They do grow. I bet even if you throw seeds directly on the soil some would grow. You could also walk over the seeds with cleats the help plant them if your soil is loose and has good humus.

I use a johnny apple seed stick to plant. It is as easy as walking and planting seeds.

I have planted a chaos garden for many years and they do work but are harder to harvest.

Also the chaos garden in the picture has a lot of different fruits and vegtables. Look in the ladies hands those are not sunflowers although there are a lot of sunflowers intermixed in the garden.


Why be such a Debbie downer. Seeds are cheap. You are not going to lose much money or time for a small garden using no-till and the chaos method.
 Quoting: Achduke7


You need to water and cultivate plants.





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