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** Forced Vaccinations - Food for thought (Really..) **

 
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Goodevening my american friends,

I'll say straight up im not a troll and im actually not an anti vaxxer, I got my fair share of vaccinations to travel the world but I never have got and never will get the yearly flu shot, everyone who gets that shit gets sick

Im getting the covid-19 vaccination, this is MY choice.. no one elses...

at this point I expect to people stop reading and attack but DO keep reading. its **NOT** my point here


I do understand the whole not wanting to vaccinate, throw in the american mindset of freedom and against tyranny, I see how people dont want it.. so im not fore or against anything here.. not taking sides in any respect


What I am though is a student of humanity, a reader, a thinker..

I posted about this in the forced vaccination thread but I do believe this warrants its own thread

VACCINATIONS - FORCIBLY - HOW TO, THINGS TO CONSIDER AND DEFEND AGAINST (for NOT getting one!)

Let me start by saying those who are imagining lines of thousands of people at medical centers I think are honestly thinking in a wrong way, a way that could distract from whats real

a vaccination isnt a cure, it may reduce infection but the idea behind a vaccination is PREVENT Infection - I could be wrong on this and im happy to be corrected but from what I know. its how they work

So with this in mind, your not going to have thousands lining up in an orderly line obeying "social distancing" meanwhile potentially infecting people and making this vaccine ineffective

They locked down countries, skyrocketed unemployment, closed medical centers, schools.. pubs (bastards!) and parks in order to prevent infection from close contact so.. I rather think looking at this.. lining up isnt going to be a thing, it just doesnt make any sense, especially in a country like united states with a resisting population



So.. how do they vaccinate?

First up would be the fear/shame avenue, here i'll use a local example to my homeland, some may know it.. in 1987 australia made a wonderful anti-AIDS commerical to stem the infection rate, it was brutally effective..

Here is this such advertisement








For a more.. physical delivery.. aka.. forced vaccination


Lets look at wild animals for this

2 methods, Dart guns.. Dart weaponry is certainly an option and it makes sense to be used against stubborn population, it also has quite an american ring to it, although im not making a joke here really.. it just seems a cheap and effective way of distribution with already existing delivery platforms (rifles?)

but I came across numerous articles regarding wild animal vaccinations against rabies, actually.. "ethical nature" greeny hippy articles that mean well.. but in the current climate.. spell quite a bit of bad stuff for those unwilling to vaccinate

***THEY PUT IT IN.. FOOD****

[link to www.natureethics.org (secure)]

**Extract from article**

Targeted vaccination programs represent the majority of successful human reductions of wild animal disease. Contrary to how human vaccination is done, it is possible and indeed even desirable to use hands-off forms of vaccination for wild animals. Such vaccines are typically in the form of baits—edibles which, when consumed by a member of the target species, deliver a vaccine to the animal in question. This method has become the norm in wild animal vaccination since it causes no harm to the animal in question compared to injection by syringe or dart, and because baits can be distributed throughout a target species’ territory without the need to actually seek out individual animals.


Another study:

[link to veterinaryresearch.biomedcentral.com (secure)]

Theres quite a few of these kind of things from mid to late 2000s floating around on google, they been doing this since the 70s looks like

Ok, with that established - vaccines can be delivered via food

What about vaccinations that have to be refrigerated and kept alive?

Thats an easy one.. as advanced people of the 1900s invented something along the lines of the common refrigerator.. that keeps things cold.. that keeps food cold.. that keeps drinks cold

Select your favorite food or regionally preferred beverage, make sure its not hostile to the vaccine.. and you probably have a damn good silent delivery method

Alcohol tends to preserve things, maybe thats how
or another avenue I cant quite think of

Anyway! so some people would rather go crazy about "5G" and all that disinformation

As a student of humanity as I said, im a thinker, a reader.. I study society with interest

I suggest many people start doing likewise and stop depending on shitty social media.. think for yourselves

no matter what your take on things, to survive against the virus, to prevent infection... or if its real or not.. to prevent vaccination or whatever thing deems appropriate

Get away from the social media because another possibility is one ive considered.. maybe the resistance against social distancing and vaccine may have been sparked by agents who wish unkind things on your country... it doesnt take much to spark a few ideas and have something be turned evil.. especially if its all a means to an end..

Think about that one too.. hell.. think about ALL of it and get the hell away from facebook, on the grand scale of things.. corona be damned

SOCIAL MEDIA is our worst enemy.. its EVERYONES worst enemy. worse than any virus, worse than any rifle or physical weapon.. it single handedly fucked over the world.. we would *ALL* do good to be without it
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1. Vaccinations are not for preventing infection but to prevent symptoms from infection.
2. If you want to use food as vector for vaccine, you could use chicken eggs. The yolk contains immunoglobulin Y (IgY). Just inject antibodies to chicken to piggyback the IgY. Chicken lays the eggs and consumer happily eat the yolk which contains the desired "vaccine"...
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I won't be getting the vaccine because of the circumstances behind it all and who's pushing it. None of these corrupt,murdering, greedy mo fo's gonna convince me to inject their shit in me.
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Wrong.

Vaccines are supposed to infect you, not prevent.
Infect with dead virus but infected just the same.
Then your immune system creates anti bodies.

Op is an idiot.
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Wrong.

Vaccines are supposed to infect you, not prevent.
Infect with dead virus but infected just the same.
Then your immune system creates anti bodies.

Op is an idiot.
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And here we have the first dickhead who didnt read anything.. Thankyou for being that person, Winner is you :)


Vaccines: The Basics
Vaccines contain the same germs that cause disease. (For example, measles vaccine contains measles virus, and Hib vaccine contains Hib bacteria.) But they have been either killed or weakened to the point that they don’t make you sick. Some vaccines contain only a part of the disease germ.

A vaccine stimulates your immune system to produce antibodies, exactly like it would if you were exposed to the disease. After getting vaccinated, you develop immunity to that disease, without having to get the disease first.

This is what makes vaccines such powerful medicine. Unlike most medicines, which treat or cure diseases, vaccines prevent them.



Vaccines *STOP* you being infected,
Antivirals is what your talking about and most of them dont kill the virus they just reduce it
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Goodevening my american friends,

I'll say straight up im not a troll and im actually not an anti vaxxer, I got my fair share of vaccinations to travel the world but I never have got and never will get the yearly flu shot, everyone who gets that shit gets sick

Im getting the covid-19 vaccination, this is MY choice.. no one elses...

at this point I expect to people stop reading and attack but DO keep reading. its **NOT** my point here


I do understand the whole not wanting to vaccinate, throw in the american mindset of freedom and against tyranny, I see how people dont want it.. so im not fore or against anything here.. not taking sides in any respect


What I am though is a student of humanity, a reader, a thinker..

I posted about this in the forced vaccination thread but I do believe this warrants its own thread

VACCINATIONS - FORCIBLY - HOW TO, THINGS TO CONSIDER AND DEFEND AGAINST (for NOT getting one!)

Let me start by saying those who are imagining lines of thousands of people at medical centers I think are honestly thinking in a wrong way, a way that could distract from whats real

a vaccination isnt a cure, it may reduce infection but the idea behind a vaccination is PREVENT Infection - I could be wrong on this and im happy to be corrected but from what I know. its how they work

So with this in mind, your not going to have thousands lining up in an orderly line obeying "social distancing" meanwhile potentially infecting people and making this vaccine ineffective

They locked down countries, skyrocketed unemployment, closed medical centers, schools.. pubs (bastards!) and parks in order to prevent infection from close contact so.. I rather think looking at this.. lining up isnt going to be a thing, it just doesnt make any sense, especially in a country like united states with a resisting population



So.. how do they vaccinate?

First up would be the fear/shame avenue, here i'll use a local example to my homeland, some may know it.. in 1987 australia made a wonderful anti-AIDS commerical to stem the infection rate, it was brutally effective..

Here is this such advertisement








For a more.. physical delivery.. aka.. forced vaccination


Lets look at wild animals for this

2 methods, Dart guns.. Dart weaponry is certainly an option and it makes sense to be used against stubborn population, it also has quite an american ring to it, although im not making a joke here really.. it just seems a cheap and effective way of distribution with already existing delivery platforms (rifles?)

but I came across numerous articles regarding wild animal vaccinations against rabies, actually.. "ethical nature" greeny hippy articles that mean well.. but in the current climate.. spell quite a bit of bad stuff for those unwilling to vaccinate

***THEY PUT IT IN.. FOOD****

[link to www.natureethics.org (secure)]

**Extract from article**

Targeted vaccination programs represent the majority of successful human reductions of wild animal disease. Contrary to how human vaccination is done, it is possible and indeed even desirable to use hands-off forms of vaccination for wild animals. Such vaccines are typically in the form of baits—edibles which, when consumed by a member of the target species, deliver a vaccine to the animal in question. This method has become the norm in wild animal vaccination since it causes no harm to the animal in question compared to injection by syringe or dart, and because baits can be distributed throughout a target species’ territory without the need to actually seek out individual animals.


Another study:

[link to veterinaryresearch.biomedcentral.com (secure)]

Theres quite a few of these kind of things from mid to late 2000s floating around on google, they been doing this since the 70s looks like

Ok, with that established - vaccines can be delivered via food

What about vaccinations that have to be refrigerated and kept alive?

Thats an easy one.. as advanced people of the 1900s invented something along the lines of the common refrigerator.. that keeps things cold.. that keeps food cold.. that keeps drinks cold

Select your favorite food or regionally preferred beverage, make sure its not hostile to the vaccine.. and you probably have a damn good silent delivery method

Alcohol tends to preserve things, maybe thats how
or another avenue I cant quite think of

Anyway! so some people would rather go crazy about "5G" and all that disinformation

As a student of humanity as I said, im a thinker, a reader.. I study society with interest

I suggest many people start doing likewise and stop depending on shitty social media.. think for yourselves

no matter what your take on things, to survive against the virus, to prevent infection... or if its real or not.. to prevent vaccination or whatever thing deems appropriate

Get away from the social media because another possibility is one ive considered.. maybe the resistance against social distancing and vaccine may have been sparked by agents who wish unkind things on your country... it doesnt take much to spark a few ideas and have something be turned evil.. especially if its all a means to an end..

Think about that one too.. hell.. think about ALL of it and get the hell away from facebook, on the grand scale of things.. corona be damned

SOCIAL MEDIA is our worst enemy.. its EVERYONES worst enemy. worse than any virus, worse than any rifle or physical weapon.. it single handedly fucked over the world.. we would *ALL* do good to be without it
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Vladimir, you are the worst troll this site has ever seen.
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Goodevening my american friends,

I'll say straight up im not a troll and im actually not an anti vaxxer, I got my fair share of vaccinations to travel the world but I never have got and never will get the yearly flu shot, everyone who gets that shit gets sick

Im getting the covid-19 vaccination, this is MY choice.. no one elses...

at this point I expect to people stop reading and attack but DO keep reading. its **NOT** my point here


I do understand the whole not wanting to vaccinate, throw in the american mindset of freedom and against tyranny, I see how people dont want it.. so im not fore or against anything here.. not taking sides in any respect


What I am though is a student of humanity, a reader, a thinker..

I posted about this in the forced vaccination thread but I do believe this warrants its own thread

VACCINATIONS - FORCIBLY - HOW TO, THINGS TO CONSIDER AND DEFEND AGAINST (for NOT getting one!)

Let me start by saying those who are imagining lines of thousands of people at medical centers I think are honestly thinking in a wrong way, a way that could distract from whats real

a vaccination isnt a cure, it may reduce infection but the idea behind a vaccination is PREVENT Infection - I could be wrong on this and im happy to be corrected but from what I know. its how they work

So with this in mind, your not going to have thousands lining up in an orderly line obeying "social distancing" meanwhile potentially infecting people and making this vaccine ineffective

They locked down countries, skyrocketed unemployment, closed medical centers, schools.. pubs (bastards!) and parks in order to prevent infection from close contact so.. I rather think looking at this.. lining up isnt going to be a thing, it just doesnt make any sense, especially in a country like united states with a resisting population



So.. how do they vaccinate?

First up would be the fear/shame avenue, here i'll use a local example to my homeland, some may know it.. in 1987 australia made a wonderful anti-AIDS commerical to stem the infection rate, it was brutally effective..

Here is this such advertisement








For a more.. physical delivery.. aka.. forced vaccination


Lets look at wild animals for this

2 methods, Dart guns.. Dart weaponry is certainly an option and it makes sense to be used against stubborn population, it also has quite an american ring to it, although im not making a joke here really.. it just seems a cheap and effective way of distribution with already existing delivery platforms (rifles?)

but I came across numerous articles regarding wild animal vaccinations against rabies, actually.. "ethical nature" greeny hippy articles that mean well.. but in the current climate.. spell quite a bit of bad stuff for those unwilling to vaccinate

***THEY PUT IT IN.. FOOD****

[link to www.natureethics.org (secure)]

**Extract from article**

Targeted vaccination programs represent the majority of successful human reductions of wild animal disease. Contrary to how human vaccination is done, it is possible and indeed even desirable to use hands-off forms of vaccination for wild animals. Such vaccines are typically in the form of baits—edibles which, when consumed by a member of the target species, deliver a vaccine to the animal in question. This method has become the norm in wild animal vaccination since it causes no harm to the animal in question compared to injection by syringe or dart, and because baits can be distributed throughout a target species’ territory without the need to actually seek out individual animals.


Another study:

[link to veterinaryresearch.biomedcentral.com (secure)]

Theres quite a few of these kind of things from mid to late 2000s floating around on google, they been doing this since the 70s looks like

Ok, with that established - vaccines can be delivered via food

What about vaccinations that have to be refrigerated and kept alive?

Thats an easy one.. as advanced people of the 1900s invented something along the lines of the common refrigerator.. that keeps things cold.. that keeps food cold.. that keeps drinks cold

Select your favorite food or regionally preferred beverage, make sure its not hostile to the vaccine.. and you probably have a damn good silent delivery method

Alcohol tends to preserve things, maybe thats how
or another avenue I cant quite think of

Anyway! so some people would rather go crazy about "5G" and all that disinformation

As a student of humanity as I said, im a thinker, a reader.. I study society with interest

I suggest many people start doing likewise and stop depending on shitty social media.. think for yourselves

no matter what your take on things, to survive against the virus, to prevent infection... or if its real or not.. to prevent vaccination or whatever thing deems appropriate

Get away from the social media because another possibility is one ive considered.. maybe the resistance against social distancing and vaccine may have been sparked by agents who wish unkind things on your country... it doesnt take much to spark a few ideas and have something be turned evil.. especially if its all a means to an end..

Think about that one too.. hell.. think about ALL of it and get the hell away from facebook, on the grand scale of things.. corona be damned

SOCIAL MEDIA is our worst enemy.. its EVERYONES worst enemy. worse than any virus, worse than any rifle or physical weapon.. it single handedly fucked over the world.. we would *ALL* do good to be without it
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Just because vaccines work does not mean all vaccines are safe
Fucknugget
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Never did I say they were safe, infact I have my own reservations like I said about the flu vaccine..

really.. once america gets back on her feet, you really need to work on this whole education thing to get back to leading the world, not being a bunch of fools who only read a few words and make judgement
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“Im getting the covid-19 vaccination, this is MY choice.. no one elses“

I never said you said that did I? But anybody can deduct that you are assuming the vaccine will be safe even though no vaccine even exists
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It appears ive not made it clear enough, which.. is very strange considering I made a well thought out post I hoped would do the opposite

* I DID NOT * say people should get the vaccine or anything of the sort, at all.. none


the purpose of my post was stemmed from a thought that the delivery method of the forced vaccine thats been reported to be under development and implementation via the military, May not be delivered by injection but rather by food avenues as is done with wild animals

That is the whole point of my article.. I simply wanted to put it out there as a thought point

GLP does have its fair share of rough edges and people who have 2 settings between pissed off and sleep I do realize, for those people.. this thread if not for you

it is for thinkers to further expand on something I came across in articles and my own thoughts on the matter that may provide a point of interest, I will reply no more to stupid posts.

This is clear enough
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I'm glad OP has come to reality, unlike many others. People who votes for Dump probly think they have a choice to take or not to take.
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Vaccines speak to herd immunity.

Enough have resistance from vaccines then the ones that don’t are naturally protected by the herd.

If not, not all that concerned with actually getting it except that like jury duty could occur at inconvenient time.

A 108 year old NJ woman survived it - I’ll take my chances.
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You say you are going to get the vaccine and don’t even know yet if the vaccine is safe because a vaccine for it does not exist. Then, immediately afterwards, you keep saying you aren’t for or against it. That doesn’t make sense.

Do you really think they will run around darting people? Do you think that is an efficient method of delivery? Don’t you think it’d be easy for people to push back and resist?

I also disagree with the idea of putting it in food. Yes, they CAN put it in food but I don’t think they will. They won’t because they are afraid of us. They are scared of us because there are so many of us. They are scared of what we will do when we find out they are putting it in the food. Even if they try to keep it secret; it would be easy for us to find out.

This is totally my opinion and speculation but
I believe that the Bible tells us it will be a choice. Well, it will be a choice between the mark (assuming the mark is a vaccine or the proof of one) or death. The actual mark won’t be a deception because it has to be a choice. Vaccine or death so

You can already see their plans. It’s obvious. They are getting manufacturing ready for plastic single dose with a needle and injectable, one single unit ready to inject (as opposed to the glass jar or vial method of the past). They will try every method you could possibly think of to get you to willingly take it. It might be at gunpoint but they won’t hold you down and force you to take it.

If you have a choice; a resistance movement will have no justification to fight.

I’m not trying to attack you. I was just saying how can you act open minded when you have already taken a stance saying you will get the vaccine. That makes you pro-vaccine in this instance not on the fence about it like you are pretending
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And to me you aren’t just throwing ideas out there. You are not a free thinker in my opinion if you have already decided to take a vaccine that doesn’t exist. You don’t know whether it’s safe or works but yet you are willing and ready to take it. My guess is that you are scared of being branded as different (anti-vaccine).

It almost sounds like you are brainstorming ideas to forcibly vaccine people against their will which you are likely in favor of considering that you yourself would take a vaccine that hasn’t been proven because it doesn’t exist. Usually when people think they are in the right (you are willing to take it so your viewpoint is correct); then, they would like to extend that view upon others (vaccinate others against their will covertly because many will not take it)
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But I’m just a stupid American.
Is freedom stupid? Maybe
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Mostly I mentioned the food issue because it had become evident that no ones thought of it, it seemed like possibly a logical step that "they" would take and while my own decision to take the vaccine (in australia) is my own.. I posted this as a way to possibly atleast highlight a delivery method no ones thought of.. really thats all, not trying to save anyone or harm anyone here because of it

Im fully aware vaccines are risky, I took that vaccine that prevents HPV and shields from some cancers in male and female respectively,

theres been another one added to the mix to include more cancers etc.. ive not taken that, I knew full well its a risk and I wasnt quite comfortable with it, id heard the horror stories of paralysis, hoped like hell it wasnt me.. but ive got a wife to protect.. so I took it.. mainly so she didnt need too

Oh im uneasy about vaccines and any medication just like anyone, im not religious and im not going to be all bible-tard and say mark of the beast etc etc, Hell I worked in the medical industry in the pacemaker field.. I seen some purely fucky things that set back my faith in the medical field and humanity as a whole

but like anything in life, absolutely everything.. with this covid shit being no exception

You take your chances.. I go out without a mask everyday for a coffee and a pie to get outside, havent worn gloves and mask full time since the first few days of lockdown... if I get corona.. well. fuck me.. you know.. its my fault.. I fucked up

I just wanted to establish my point as a person before laying into what I think, rather than it be a faceless post by some bot spreading bullshit information

Im as human as the rest of you.. and it goes into what I post.. I believe there should be more of it. especially in these fucked up times

Anyway, im happy if anyone finds what I posts useful in any possible way, it seemed like it was too important to really leave just in my head..

like I said. its an odds thing.. a chance thing.. what if im right, what if im wrong.. atleast its out there and well wishes to you from australia





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