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Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"

 
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Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"
Tell us again why we should give the Pentagon another trillion or two.


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"The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan, according to a series of “eye-opening” war games by the Pentagon."


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Re: Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"
See, I don't want to say this because it's better to keep the undesirables in the dark especially about this.

So over in the corner of the ring we have the current contender. A 300 pound behemoth sumo wrestler (china.) It likes everything squared and filed. Nice and neat to perfection. Like a walmart management chain on steroids.

Then you have Taiwan. Taiwan is an off-the-books "U.S. Asset" as is South Korea and Singapore. We have the technology for Taiwan to replace China as the logistics center of the world. How exactly and what exactly are we doing to achieve this? Hard to say. But I do know this from a DoD official's mouth. "We are always testing our latest tech both logistics and supply chain in Taiwan. Bet your house on that." He said that while I was on layover on my way home for vacation during afghanistan tour.
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See, I don't want to say this because it's better to keep the undesirables in the dark especially about this.

So over in the corner of the ring we have the current contender. A 300 pound behemoth sumo wrestler (china.) It likes everything squared and filed. Nice and neat to perfection. Like a walmart management chain on steroids.

Then you have Taiwan. Taiwan is an off-the-books "U.S. Asset" as is South Korea and Singapore. We have the technology for Taiwan to replace China as the logistics center of the world. How exactly and what exactly are we doing to achieve this? Hard to say. But I do know this from a DoD official's mouth. "We are always testing our latest tech both logistics and supply chain in Taiwan. Bet your house on that." He said that while I was on layover on my way home for vacation during afghanistan tour.
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Are undesirables anything like deplorables?

hiding


I might resemble that.


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Appear weak when you are strong.
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???


So what exactly did we get for our "trillion and a half"?


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[Trying to find the baned word in this reply]

They're ... how should I say.
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Re: Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"
It's an army term that's kinda meant to be far reaching.
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I guess you could say it's basically meant to convey someone you would never associate with, unless forced to.
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What a weird choice of words for that banelist.
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Appear weak when you are strong.
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more like never stop crying for cash even to the point where you're happy to undermine your own population's confidence in you more than it already is
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Appear weak when you are strong.
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The flipside of doing that is that sometimes you encourage your enemies.


;)


I'm not entirely buying that.
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Appear weak when you are strong.
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Internet winner ^^^^^^
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Appear weak when you are strong.
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more like never stop crying for cash even to the point where you're happy to undermine your own population's confidence in you more than it already is
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What the Russian said!
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Appear weak when you are strong.
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Every empire that has ever existed in human history eventually weakened from within and collapsed on itself.
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Re: Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"
I read this earlier on a different website but the same story.

This focuses on 2030 not 2020 and yes they are right, by 2030 china would be unstoppable. This is why I believe the US and NATO have no option but to act now, and I think they know this and they will.

They are just waiting for the catalyst then the shit will hit the fan.
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Re: Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"
Tell us again why we should give the Pentagon another trillion or two.


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"The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan, according to a series of “eye-opening” war games by the Pentagon."


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 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Why not just announce they've switched sides. Because Orange Man Bad, they can't win a war.

Fucking pussies. Those cunts better stick to bombing dirt farmers and doing logistics for muzz ISIS.
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Re: Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"
US general said about the China sea troubles, one ship mounted rail gun can take out all the enemy ships from a hundred miles away in a few minutes, line of sight weapon.
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Re: Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"
Tell us again why we should give the Pentagon another trillion or two.


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"The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan, according to a series of “eye-opening” war games by the Pentagon."


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 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Why not just announce they've switched sides. Because Orange Man Bad, they can't win a war.

Fucking pussies. Those cunts better stick to bombing dirt farmers and doing logistics for muzz ISIS.
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Actually, the Pentacle does sicken me at times.


Not the first time for sure.
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Re: Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"
Appear weak when you are strong.
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The flipside of doing that is that sometimes you encourage your enemies.


;)


I'm not entirely buying that.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


We have super duper missiles.

This X38 thing is heading back to the stars, got no idea how many we have up there but I’m positive they are super duper too.

I’m also sure we have sub detection world wide.
After all, that is first priority number uno. All subs gone instantly.

Next priority is incoming nukes. I know couple are gonna get thru, x38 will destroy the rest.

Oh simultaneously with the first priority,,,, we also launched 247 nuclear big daddies.

Ya I think we got this. First step I would personally take is to prod the enemy to make that lethal first step then, when hell rains down on them they also get the historical blame for starting it.
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Appear weak when you are strong.
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The flipside of doing that is that sometimes you encourage your enemies.


;)


I'm not entirely buying that.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


We have super duper missiles.

This X38 thing is heading back to the stars, got no idea how many we have up there but I’m positive they are super duper too.

I’m also sure we have sub detection world wide.
After all, that is first priority number uno. All subs gone instantly.

Next priority is incoming nukes. I know couple are gonna get thru, x38 will destroy the rest.

Oh simultaneously with the first priority,,,, we also launched 247 nuclear big daddies.

Ya I think we got this. First step I would personally take is to prod the enemy to make that lethal first step then, when hell rains down on them they also get the historical blame for starting it.
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:supercereal:
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Re: Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"
US general said about the China sea troubles, one ship mounted rail gun can take out all the enemy ships from a hundred miles away in a few minutes, line of sight weapon.
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There is no 100 mile away line of sight weapon.

Curvature of the Earth and horizon.
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US general said about the China sea troubles, one ship mounted rail gun can take out all the enemy ships from a hundred miles away in a few minutes, line of sight weapon.
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The Chinese have those too.
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The study I believe was conducted many years ago and has zero relevance...

Thanks you
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Re: Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"
Tell us again why we should give the Pentagon another trillion or two.


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Mike
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"The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan, according to a series of “eye-opening” war games by the Pentagon."


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 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Correct. The main problem is that Western armies have these "hand tying" rules of engagement and a moral compass which inhibits their ability to win quickly on the battle field , which is why we cant win fighting insurgent on the back of 125cc dirt bike in Afghanistan and Iraq. We have the technology and hardware to Win any of those wars in weeks but are not allowed by federal governments to do so. China does not have those constraints and will sink the U.S. Navy pretty quickly 4000 mile away from Taiwan with hypersonic missiles that travel at over 18,000 mph.
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Re: Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"
US general said about the China sea troubles, one ship mounted rail gun can take out all the enemy ships from a hundred miles away in a few minutes, line of sight weapon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72690298


There is no 100 mile away line of sight weapon.

Curvature of the Earth and horizon.
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Exactly

This is why you should never use the words military and intelligence in the same sentence.
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Re: Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"
Tell us again why we should give the Pentagon another trillion or two.


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"The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan, according to a series of “eye-opening” war games by the Pentagon."


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what about Taiwan, SK, Japan, and a whole host of other countries getting involved?
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China may get a few waves of cruise missiles into Taiwan and land a few thousand troops but they couldn’t hold for more than a few days.
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Re: Pentagon: "The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan"
Tell us again why we should give the Pentagon another trillion or two.


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"The United States would be defeated in a sea war with China and would struggle to stop an invasion of Taiwan, according to a series of “eye-opening” war games by the Pentagon."


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 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


what about Taiwan, SK, Japan, and a whole host of other countries getting involved?
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I'm sure Taiwan's own defenses would be taken into account.



But you are right.


Those other countries might not just sit that one out.
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The pentagon is full of pogs that have never seen combat





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