Why being a Tribulation Saint is a dangerous second best choice to being Raptured.

It's like this you see...

Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples,

and exhorting them to continue in the faith,

and that we must through much tribulation

enter into the kingdom of God.

Spot on!👍

Ridiculous eschatology

You do not deserve to be removed from the things that are and will fall upon this world. Your virtue is as rags to the almighty. I say this as the chiefs of sinners. You are not above the master and the master washed the feet of those who denied him. You are suffering from a strong delusion. I am heart broken for you. Remember this. The Lord told his apostles that they would do greater works than him. And they brought the gospel to the world. The twelve suffered terrible deaths. Yet i feel people like you think your above all that,

Anyone in Acts is long gone. The dead go before the living in Christ this includes the tribulation saints who also will die. They need to go before any living.

Rev 6:11 And a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.

Matt 24 is entirely to the priesthood... remember Pauls gospel of grace hadn't even been revealed to the world yet... Peter, rightly, was looking for those 7 years of tribulation and then return of Christ..., these are those events in Matt.

Paul was looking for that "blessed hope"... the rapture... this is what the "last days" for "the body of Christ" look like.. very different from Matt 24. and what Peter was looking for

2 Tim
"This know also, that in the last days shall come perilous times. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, cursed speakers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, truce breakers, false accusers, intemperate, fierce, no lovers at all of them which are good,"

No fire, brimstone, moon turning blood red... we're gone, raptured, before any of Matt 24...

rapture was one of the mysteries that was revealed to Paul... ALWAYS separate Paul from everyone else, "rightly divide the word of truth"... Paul had the revelations and mysteries, given only to him, from an ascended LORD ... GOD sent us Paul for a reason... law vs grace pastors vs priests

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I already got my white robe and cup in the pocket of it.

12 /7/12


Result: 2746 days
It is 2746 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date.

Or 7 years, 6 months, 7 days excluding the end date.

Or 90 months, 7 days excluding the end date.

Deuteronomy 15:1-2
“At the end of every seven years you shall grant a release.

And this is the manner of the release: every creditor shall release what he has lent to his neighbor.

He shall not exact it of his neighbor, his brother, because the Lord's release has been proclaimed.

So you are saying you are not part of the elect?

I'm part of the body of Christ, spoken of only by Paul as it was given him by an ascended Jesus, as a further revelation to humankind and salvation by grace through faith alone

But are you part of the elect or annointed?

UTTER NONSENSE.

Scripture PROVES you WRONG.

You pre-tribbers aren't going ANYWHERE.

Jesus returns ONCE - AFTER Tribulation.

Tribulation is NOT wrath.

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YOU are false teacher - via John Nelson Darby and the idiotic Schofield bible.

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YOUR doctrine DIVIDES Christ.

"Neither Hebrew NOR gentile".

Keep in mind what He did for the Roman Centurion for his faith.

Matthew 8

5 When Jesus went to Capernaum, a Roman army officer came to beg him for help.
6 The officer said, "Sir, my servant is lying at home paralyzed and in terrible pain."
7 Jesus said to him, "I'll come to heal him."
8 The officer responded, "Sir, I don't deserve to have you come into my house. But just give a command, and my servant will be healed.
9 As you know, I'm in a chain of command and have soldiers at my command. I tell one of them, 'Go!' and he goes, and another, 'Come!' and he comes. I tell my servant, 'Do this!' and he does it."
10 Jesus was amazed when he heard this. He said to those who were following him, "I can guarantee this truth: I haven't found faith as great as this in anyone in Israel.
11 I can guarantee that many will come from all over the world. They will eat with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
12 The citizens of that kingdom will be thrown outside into the darkness. People will cry and be in extreme pain there.
13 Jesus told the officer, "Go! What you believed will be done for you." And at that moment the servant was healed.

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Why the hell are the pictures in this thread what they are?

Or is there some dns poisoning / bubble of filth affecting my end?

Perhaps pics from a site that has been taken over and links to them changed?

They most assuredly do not fit in any post and are deeply concerning.


Edit: Oh, the images are hosted on GLP alright... so... :/

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yes he did ... but GOD sent him to Israel to establish the priesthood so they could evangelize the world... they rejected the priesthood... GOD then sent us Paul, with the dispensation of grace...

Ptaying to the saints is useless. You can pray directly to Jesus.

*sadly shakes his head*

Pride, overconfidence... even if true, completed things are shattered all the time.

Real judgement based in Truth is far beyond our control.


Don't bother replying, this thread isn't anywhere I want to be near. I won't see it.

^ Does not believe in the Love of God Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ picked Paul/Saul to spread the gospel, so who are you to gainsay Him?

1. Jesus NEVER said "pray to / worship" a "trinity".
2. Jesus NEVER said "pray to me" NOR "worship me".
3. Jesus NEVER said "pray to the Holy Spirit" NOR "worship Holy Spirit".
4. Jesus NEVER said to pray to ANYONE other than the Father.
5. The Holy Spirit NEVER says "I am _______" and you shall ________. Only Jesus and the Father say such.
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Matthew 6

9 In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name.

10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven.

11 Give us this day our daily bread.

12 And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors.

13 And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Luke 11

1 And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.

2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

3 Give us day by day our daily bread.

4 And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

Who are YOU to say that the OTHER APOSTLES DID NOT TEACH the SAME Gospel.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

Mark 14:9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

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1. Jesus was sent to ALL - "Lost sheep of Israel" came first. The Samaritans he spent several days with were NOT "under the law".

Luke 2 31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;

32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.

2. Jesus sent the Apostles to the "entire world".
YOU KNOW THE VERSES.

3. Paul was ALSO SENT to EVERYONE.

Acts 9 (Jesus talking to Ananias)

15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy
way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to
bear my name before
the Gentiles,
and kings,
and the children of Israel:

16 For I will shew him how great things
he must suffer for my name's sake.

4. Paul's travels, as documented in the (KJV) Book of Acts, show us that EVERYWHERE Paul went - he went to the synagogues FIRST.
This also proves that Paul had the same Gospel as the other Apostles, who were to preach "to the world".

Damascus Acts 9:20
Salamis Acts 13:5
Antioch Acts 13:14
Iconium Acts 14:1
Thessalonica Acts 17:1
Berea Acts 17:10
Athens Acts 17:16
Corinth Acts 18:4
Ephesus Acts 18:19

Where does the Bible say "God Jesus Christ"????????????

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;

for I am not yet ascended to my Father:

but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.

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Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

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John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee

the only true God,

and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


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John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,

that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life.

You don’t understand salvation...for those of us who have had divine intervention know that god has our back....the world will not end, but we will be ushered into a new time to reset the clock.....this will be a digital clock....follow the light avoid the darkness...if you are with god this will be your time of no pain...it’s the unbelievers turn to suffer.....all we have is time❤️

Stop being a pedantic nit picking little twerp, looking to justify your hostility to the message of hope that is in the Rapture.