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Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?

 
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Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
God is greater. God is Spirit. God is all powerful, hence The Almighty, God is everywhere including all times past, present, and future, God is all knowing...


Yet in nearly all praise and worship songs, they praise and worship Jesus alone
Many Christians pray to Jesus also.

There's nothing really wrong with this because God commands we put our faith and belief in His Son, but it feels that YAH is getting shorted somehow.

The Bible states God Almighty will dwell amongst His people as will the lamb, Jesus. God will be the light and Jesus will be the lamp of God's light.


So my question to you is, who do you typically praise and worship? God or the lamb?
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
They aren't the brightest and barely trainable?
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
God is greater. God is Spirit. God is all powerful, hence The Almighty, God is everywhere including all times past, present, and future, God is all knowing...


Yet in nearly all praise and worship songs, they praise and worship Jesus alone
Many Christians pray to Jesus also.

There's nothing really wrong with this because God commands we put our faith and belief in His Son, but it feels that YAH is getting shorted somehow.

The Bible states God Almighty will dwell amongst His people as will the lamb, Jesus. God will be the light and Jesus will be the lamp of God's light.


So my question to you is, who do you typically praise and worship? God or the lamb?
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God retired and left the business to Jesus
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
Meanwhile, the Holy Ghost (the 3rd arm of christianity) gets no air time whatsoever.

Religion (no matter what brand of religion it is) makes no sense whatsoever if you really think about it.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
"Love God with all your heart, mind and soul". –Jesus the son of God
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
I always pray to God in the name of Jesus. No I don't get it either, I spose it's the Trinity brainwashing ???
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And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
Meanwhile, the Holy Ghost (the 3rd arm of christianity) gets no air time whatsoever.

Religion (no matter what brand of religion it is) makes no sense whatsoever if you really think about it.
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It does make sense but I totally agree the Holy Spirit gets shorted. I used to love talking with Him and seeking Him out.

Thanks for the reminder!
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
From here on out it is going to be easier for unbelievers to believe that God is the Father of Jesus than even the very "saved"!
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
Since the religion says you need to believe in Jesus in order to go to heaven and not hell, it makes sense that are more concerned that Jesus hears them and knows they believe. Their eternal life depends on it.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
I always pray to God in the name of Jesus. No I don't get it either, I spose it's the Trinity brainwashing ???
 Quoting: The Freak AA


same.

You don't have to say, in Jesus Name, like everyone practically does. Jesus's other name is THE AMEN, so when you say Amen you pray in His name literally.
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I always pray to God in the name of Jesus. No I don't get it either, I spose it's the Trinity brainwashing ???
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
I always pray to God in the name of Jesus. No I don't get it either, I spose it's the Trinity brainwashing ???
 Quoting: The Freak AA


Yep me too!

I always begin with Lord, God, our Father, We, (or I), come to you through Your son Jesus, who shed His life, so that we might receive Salvation.

I usually close by saying, Your will be done in all things, in the name of Your Son, Jesus Christ, we ask this, Amen.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
I say this because a Christian radio station i love posted Psalm 91 where God covers us with his wings and feathers.

Everyone was praising Jesus in the comment section.

It upset me a little. Why? I don't know. I'm typically not a petty person, but when a scripture talks of God's glory and then people praise Jesus... its like playing a guitar that is out of tune.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
Since the religion says you need to believe in Jesus in order to go to heaven and not hell, it makes sense that are more concerned that Jesus hears them and knows they believe. Their eternal life depends on it.
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Jesus says no one approaches His Father except through Him (Jesus.)
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
I say this because a Christian radio station i love posted Psalm 91 where God covers us with his wings and feathers.

Everyone was praising Jesus in the comment section.

It upset me a little. Why? I don't know. I'm typically not a petty person, but when a scripture talks of God's glory and then people praise Jesus... its like playing a guitar that is out of tune.
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You are wise to recognize there is a problem.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
It’s an annoying, Protestant thing. They never can give you a succinct explanation either when you ask them seriously and neutrally. They become defensive and vomit New Testament scripture. They also tell you you will go to hell if you do not accept Jesus as your “personal savior” but never instruct you how to do so, which defeats the purpose of proselytization. They also do not understand and/or abuse the charisms.-Most annoying, undereducated cult on the planet, by far. Growing up in the Bible Belt sucked so much.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
God is greater. God is Spirit. God is all powerful, hence The Almighty, God is everywhere including all times past, present, and future, God is all knowing...


Yet in nearly all praise and worship songs, they praise and worship Jesus alone
Many Christians pray to Jesus also.

There's nothing really wrong with this because God commands we put our faith and belief in His Son, but it feels that YAH is getting shorted somehow.

The Bible states God Almighty will dwell amongst His people as will the lamb, Jesus. God will be the light and Jesus will be the lamp of God's light.


So my question to you is, who do you typically praise and worship? God or the lamb?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78669752


This subject spans the entire bible.

The short answer is. There is no way to the FATHER but by Him.

Why would you want to lower Jesus to your standards?
SouthSide
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
Let me try a metaphor:

You love the thrill you get from a roller coaster ride.

Where do you go, how do you get that thrill without the "vehicle", being the physical roller coaster?

The Christ is deeply admired and loved BECAUSE it is the "Vehicle" through which God the Father can be "Flashed" to your spirit for infinitesimal communion instances. The Christ also serves as the protection Structure so you do only get an infinitesimal duration "Flash" through Himself, from the Father.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
Meanwhile, the Holy Ghost (the 3rd arm of christianity) gets no air time whatsoever.

Religion (no matter what brand of religion it is) makes no sense whatsoever if you really think about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78937244


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Psalm 139:4 ESV
Even before a word is on my tongue, behold, O Lord, you know it altogether.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
Also OP. Here's just one Biblical argument for your statement.

The very first of the ten commandments is:

"You shall have no other God's before me."

No profit, or minister in the bible ever accepted any worship.

King Herod did, and it turned out to be very bad for him.

So did Nebuchadnezzar...

Here's what the bible says about Jesus.



Matthew 2:11: And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.

Matthew 14:33
Then those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, "Truly You are the Son of God!"

Even in Revelation when John fell at the feet of an angel to worship, the angel said this.

Revelation 22:9

“Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.”

Jesus is the only living human who accepted worship and is worthy of it.
SouthSide
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
Since the religion says you need to believe in Jesus in order to go to heaven and not hell, it makes sense that are more concerned that Jesus hears them and knows they believe. Their eternal life depends on it.
 Quoting: 3643297


Jesus says no one approaches His Father except through Him (Jesus.)
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You mean

Someone supposedly said

what someone way later wrote down

what someone translated

what someone edited and declared divinely inspired

what someone translated

what someone edited

what someone translated & edited
Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac .

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then technically, 25.8069758 is the root
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
Since the religion says you need to believe in Jesus in order to go to heaven and not hell, it makes sense that are more concerned that Jesus hears them and knows they believe. Their eternal life depends on it.
 Quoting: 3643297


Jesus says no one approaches His Father except through Him (Jesus.)
 Quoting: Osmium76


You mean

Someone supposedly said

what someone way later wrote down

what someone translated

what someone edited and declared divinely inspired

what someone translated

what someone edited

what someone translated & edited
 Quoting: Wookiee666


You mean, you don't believe. Your FAITH is lacking?

You know how FAITH is defined in scripture?

Hebrews 11:1

1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2For by it the elders obtained a good report. 3Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
Also OP. Here's just one Biblical argument for your statement.

The very first of the ten commandments is:

"You shall have no other God's before me."

No profit, or minister in the bible ever accepted any worship.

King Herod did, and it turned out to be very bad for him.

So did Nebuchadnezzar...

Here's what the bible says about Jesus.



Matthew 2:11: And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.

Matthew 14:33
Then those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, "Truly You are the Son of God!"

Even in Revelation when John fell at the feet of an angel to worship, the angel said this.

Revelation 22:9

“Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.”

Jesus is the only living human who accepted worship and is worthy of it.
 Quoting: SouthSide


I'm not saying you cannot worship Jesus. But the vast majority of praise and worshio goes to Jesus. If God is greater, why not put equal effort into Him?

I know for a fact this doesn't upset God, but even as Jesus denied being good and said only God is good, the logical way path would be to go to God through Jesus.

Its merely semantics, for God says those who honor Jesus honor God.

I just want to hear more sermons about God, more songs about God, etc.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
Let me try a metaphor:

You love the thrill you get from a roller coaster ride.

Where do you go, how do you get that thrill without the "vehicle", being the physical roller coaster?

The Christ is deeply admired and loved BECAUSE it is the "Vehicle" through which God the Father can be "Flashed" to your spirit for infinitesimal communion instances. The Christ also serves as the protection Structure so you do only get an infinitesimal duration "Flash" through Himself, from the Father.
 Quoting: tkwasny


Good words, thanks.

God is an all consuming fire, His presence is beyond all creation, even greater than all of heaven for he holds it in his hands.

If we were to meet God face to face without Jesus we would die and be consumed.

The only way to approach God and to know God is to approach and know Jesus.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
I always pray to God in the name of Jesus. No I don't get it either, I spose it's the Trinity brainwashing ???
 Quoting: The Freak AA


same.

You don't have to say, in Jesus Name, like everyone practically does. Jesus's other name is THE AMEN, so when you say Amen you pray in His name literally.
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Did you get some mail-order or internet theology degree? You don't know the Bible at all, yet, you say it's wrong.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
God is greater. God is Spirit. God is all powerful, hence The Almighty, God is everywhere including all times past, present, and future, God is all knowing...


Yet in nearly all praise and worship songs, they praise and worship Jesus alone
Many Christians pray to Jesus also.

There's nothing really wrong with this because God commands we put our faith and belief in His Son, but it feels that YAH is getting shorted somehow.

The Bible states God Almighty will dwell amongst His people as will the lamb, Jesus. God will be the light and Jesus will be the lamp of God's light.


So my question to you is, who do you typically praise and worship? God or the lamb?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78669752


This subject spans the entire bible.

The short answer is. There is no way to the FATHER but by Him.

Why would you want to lower Jesus to your standards?
 Quoting: SouthSide


who said I'm lowering Jesus to standards?

Because I'd rather exalt God?

The two are mutually exclusive.

You can still honor Jesus and put more emphasis on God.

This will not upset Jesus.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
Also OP. Here's just one Biblical argument for your statement.

The very first of the ten commandments is:

"You shall have no other God's before me."

No profit, or minister in the bible ever accepted any worship.

King Herod did, and it turned out to be very bad for him.

So did Nebuchadnezzar...

Here's what the bible says about Jesus.



Matthew 2:11: And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.

Matthew 14:33
Then those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, "Truly You are the Son of God!"

Even in Revelation when John fell at the feet of an angel to worship, the angel said this.

Revelation 22:9

“Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.”

Jesus is the only living human who accepted worship and is worthy of it.
 Quoting: SouthSide


I'm not saying you cannot worship Jesus. But the vast majority of praise and worshio goes to Jesus. If God is greater, why not put equal effort into Him?

I know for a fact this doesn't upset God, but even as Jesus denied being good and said only God is good, the logical way path would be to go to God through Jesus.

Its merely semantics, for God says those who honor Jesus honor God.

I just want to hear more sermons about God, more songs about God, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78669752


In John 7, Jesus said, "I and my Father are one."

When we worship Jesus we are worshiping God.

Colossians 2:9: For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;

We, on the other hand are all given a "measure" of faith, and different gifts that comprise the whole church. Jesus is the head of the entire Church.
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
God is greater. God is Spirit. God is all powerful, hence The Almighty, God is everywhere including all times past, present, and future, God is all knowing...


Yet in nearly all praise and worship songs, they praise and worship Jesus alone
Many Christians pray to Jesus also.

There's nothing really wrong with this because God commands we put our faith and belief in His Son, but it feels that YAH is getting shorted somehow.

The Bible states God Almighty will dwell amongst His people as will the lamb, Jesus. God will be the light and Jesus will be the lamp of God's light.


So my question to you is, who do you typically praise and worship? God or the lamb?
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God retired and left the business to Jesus
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Exodus 20:3
"You shall have no other gods before me."
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Re: Not trying to be too picky, but why do people praise Jesus more than God? Even pray to Jesus?
I always pray to God in the name of Jesus. No I don't get it either, I spose it's the Trinity brainwashing ???
 Quoting: The Freak AA


same.

You don't have to say, in Jesus Name, like everyone practically does. Jesus's other name is THE AMEN, so when you say Amen you pray in His name literally.
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Did you get some mail-order or internet theology degree? You don't know the Bible at all, yet, you say it's wrong.
 Quoting: Pilgrim001


Speak for yourself. Nothing I've stated in this thread has been false.

Jesus did say He is the Amen.

So every time you say Amen, you say his name.

You are pretty dull if you can't use inductive reasoning.
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I always pray to God in the name of Jesus. No I don't get it either, I spose it's the Trinity brainwashing ???
 Quoting: The Freak AA


same.

You don't have to say, in Jesus Name, like everyone practically does. Jesus's other name is THE AMEN, so when you say Amen you pray in His name literally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78669752


Did you get some mail-order or internet theology degree? You don't know the Bible at all, yet, you say it's wrong.
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"And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation."
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