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Russian Hacker
User ID: 77708095 United States 05/23/2020 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not really. He will have to get the DOJ to sue the states for violating our 1st amendment right of speech and religion which involves obviously a court case, I don't know how long it would take. I don't see a way he can do it with the flick of a pen. But that's just my take. |
Idaho Bullwinkle
User ID: 78915591 United States 05/23/2020 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This country has been under emergency rule since the War of Northern Aggression. The emergency was fully legalized since the day FDR took office. Congress gave the Office Of President the power to be a dictator with executive orders the same week. There is a "Legal maxim" that states: Emergency knows no law. As the country is under numerous emergencies with the full support of Congress, this country is under a legal dictatorship. Stop worshiping the magic parchment. It does not mean what we were lead to believe. Research ALL the proper nouns and exception clauses. If there is any protection from the magic parchment, it is only for the Ruling Class Nobility that are State Citizens. They are the real "deep state". If you have a Birth Certificate, you are a Federal citizen domiciled in Washington DC which is outside the 50 States united. Your Mother abandoned you and the Birth Certificate is legal proof of abandonment. We are legally residents in the State where we are born and live. We can not own land and are only tenants. Most everything we think we know is a lie. Idaho Bullwinkle |
YesNoMaybe
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~Jazz~
Forum Administrator 05/23/2020 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not really. He will have to get the DOJ to sue the states for violating our 1st amendment right of speech and religion which involves obviously a court case, I don't know how long it would take. I don't see a way he can do it with the flick of a pen. But that's just my take. Quoting: Russian Hacker ^^^THIS To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76540880 United States 05/23/2020 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not really. He will have to get the DOJ to sue the states for violating our 1st amendment right of speech and religion which involves obviously a court case, I don't know how long it would take. I don't see a way he can do it with the flick of a pen. But that's just my take. Quoting: Russian Hacker ^^^THIS Yes just like Lincoln but Trump doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to finish off his former party, otherwise he wouldn’t be conceding the DEMOCRAT TALKING POINT that GUN RIGHTS are a STATE ISSUE anymore than SLAVERY was about STATE’S RIGHTS, that the Supreme Court decided and the STATES ignored, which provoked Lincoln into referring to the manual in times of crisis, by way of the Bill Of Rights and the 2nd Amendment to combat tyranny by any means necessary........ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76540880 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77755231 United States 05/23/2020 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, he can. Article II of the US Constitution: Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government. His duty is to the Constitution and specifically, in this case, the First Amendment to the Constitution. |
Larry D. Croc
User ID: 70736097 United States 05/23/2020 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not specifically unless the DOJ would receive a complaint about first amendment rights violations. He does, and all the governors know it, have influence when it comes to aid packages to states... "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
Jake
User ID: 77849624 United States 05/23/2020 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Attorney General does. He can force them to open businesses back up under the interstate commerce clause. If Interstate commerce is affected, Barr can bring it to an end Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 05/23/2020 07:28 PM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
geerod
User ID: 36876439 United States 05/23/2020 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This country has been under emergency rule since the War of Northern Aggression. Quoting: Idaho Bullwinkle The emergency was fully legalized since the day FDR took office. Congress gave the Office Of President the power to be a dictator with executive orders the same week. There is a "Legal maxim" that states: Emergency knows no law. As the country is under numerous emergencies with the full support of Congress, this country is under a legal dictatorship. Stop worshiping the magic parchment. It does not mean what we were lead to believe. Research ALL the proper nouns and exception clauses. If there is any protection from the magic parchment, it is only for the Ruling Class Nobility that are State Citizens. They are the real "deep state". If you have a Birth Certificate, you are a Federal citizen domiciled in Washington DC which is outside the 50 States united. Your Mother abandoned you and the Birth Certificate is legal proof of abandonment. We are legally residents in the State where we are born and live. We can not own land and are only tenants. Most everything we think we know is a lie. Well said sir! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78846832 United States 05/23/2020 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | States Rights are very important to the founders of the Republic. That being said, no State has the right or authority to override the rights guaranteed citizens in the constitution. Specifically, the right of assembly. The concept of limiting a group of people to an arbitrary number is not something a State can do. Banning people from a church synagogue or mosque is also a no no. So to answer your question---the President cannot override governors in Legal and Constitutionally authorized decisions. The Fed and DOJ CAN override Governors and State Assemblies, ad they can mobilize the National Guard, Regular Troops and Order all local Law Enforcement to either arrest the State Gov, Stand Down, and provide aide to Federal Law Enforcement. 18 U.S. Code § 2384.Seditious conspiracy U.S. Code If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. 18 U.S. Code § 2383.Rebellion or insurrection U.S. Code Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. |
Jake
User ID: 77849624 United States 05/23/2020 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Problem is Mitch McConnell, If he gives the states another Trillion in unemployment money. They will never open back up. Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 05/23/2020 07:45 PM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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Regal Beast
User ID: 78892422 United States 05/23/2020 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I assume you are talking about the opening back up of States from Covid restrictions. On Federal Law yes but since this has nothing to do with Federal Law he can't force anything. Last Edited by TexasPaleo on 05/23/2020 08:26 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76954178 United States 05/23/2020 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | States Rights are very important to the founders of the Republic. That being said, no State has the right or authority to override the rights guaranteed citizens in the constitution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78846832 Specifically, the right of assembly. The concept of limiting a group of people to an arbitrary number is not something a State can do. Banning people from a church synagogue or mosque is also a no no. So to answer your question---the President cannot override governors in Legal and Constitutionally authorized decisions. The Fed and DOJ CAN override Governors and State Assemblies, ad they can mobilize the National Guard, Regular Troops and Order all local Law Enforcement to either arrest the State Gov, Stand Down, and provide aide to Federal Law Enforcement. 18 U.S. Code § 2384.Seditious conspiracy U.S. Code If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. 18 U.S. Code § 2383.Rebellion or insurrection U.S. Code Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 05/23/2020 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This country has been under emergency rule since the War of Northern Aggression. Quoting: Idaho Bullwinkle The emergency was fully legalized since the day FDR took office. Congress gave the Office Of President the power to be a dictator with executive orders the same week. There is a "Legal maxim" that states: Emergency knows no law. As the country is under numerous emergencies with the full support of Congress, this country is under a legal dictatorship. Stop worshiping the magic parchment. It does not mean what we were lead to believe. Research ALL the proper nouns and exception clauses. If there is any protection from the magic parchment, it is only for the Ruling Class Nobility that are State Citizens. They are the real "deep state". If you have a Birth Certificate, you are a Federal citizen domiciled in Washington DC which is outside the 50 States united. Your Mother abandoned you and the Birth Certificate is legal proof of abandonment. We are legally residents in the State where we are born and live. We can not own land and are only tenants. Most everything we think we know is a lie. Bump for absolute truth! Just want to add, not only did your Mother abandon the Birth Certificate, she testified she was not married when you were born, because she used her maiden name on the paperwork. All bastard children are wards of the State! Lies, lies and more lies. Ignorance of the law is not a valid defense, my people are lost by ignorance and on and on. That is why all "rich" people (the real rich people) have private doctors, they keep the Title to their family names and their children, thus their fortunes continue generation to generation. Private schools too, not for you peasants! |
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JoeNobHead
User ID: 78820955 United States 05/23/2020 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The constitution is law of the land. I believe in science NOT religion. Giving me bad karma for that, is anti-religious (you're passing judgement) I am just a man. Of no significance. Who found religion to be full of lies, and wrong doing, conflicted teachings I understand microwave communications. I do not stand for the NWO, it sucks. |