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Tanker Carrying Gasoline From Iran Reaches Venezuela, Defying U.S. Sanctions

 
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Looks like all Trumps big talk turned out to be hogwash.
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CARACAS, Venezuela — The first of five tankers loaded with gasoline sent from Iran reached Venezuelan waters late Saturday, expected to temporarily ease the South American nation’s fuel crunch while defying Trump administration sanctions targeting the two U.S. foes.

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MSM praying on your ignorance again.

Learn how sanctions work.

We trading partners with either nation.

Learn the whole process, and when it leads to an embargo.

Which is what most of you think a sanction is, but isn't.
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CARACAS, Venezuela — The first of five tankers loaded with gasoline sent from Iran reached Venezuelan waters late Saturday, expected to temporarily ease the South American nation’s fuel crunch while defying Trump administration sanctions targeting the two U.S. foes.

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so let me understand this...

the global economy is shit and the oil industry is tanking because of an oversupply of oil, yet the US won't allow Venezuela to have any oil because Trump is holding a grudge?
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CARACAS, Venezuela — The first of five tankers loaded with gasoline sent from Iran reached Venezuelan waters late Saturday, expected to temporarily ease the South American nation’s fuel crunch while defying Trump administration sanctions targeting the two U.S. foes.

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 Quoting: Ohio chic


so let me understand this...

the global economy is shit and the oil industry is tanking because of an oversupply of oil, yet the US won't allow Venezuela to have any oil because Trump is holding a grudge?
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Not even close to accurate. Read about venezuela sanctions. They aren't just sanctioned by us, just like iran, north korea and a few other countries like russia. Yes they are still under sanction.
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"Sanctions" are actually unlawful acts of war against the targeted nations.

The US is in a state of undeclared war against the ever growing list of countries that we are trying (and failing) to destroy by crippling their economies with these "sanctions".
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You got no clue what we are doing and whichever of those countries your 'gyna bleeds for? Its as easy as "not being like rosie and actually move"

I haven’t been following this issue very closely, but regardless of the sanctions, that is absolutely pathetic that this shipment was even necessary because Venezuela, a country that floats on an ocean of oil, has to have its fuel imported from the other side of the planet.

Nice job, socialism.
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Idiocy. Thats right. You say to the world "we have tons of it....but somebody STILL has to bring it to us" and people are done.
So fucking what? If your sanctions
require warships to enforce then it’s an act
of war. Go fuck your self America and die slowly....
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Oh socialists are such funny neutered development failures - its like you were actually born of a not retarded, keystone species but then your parents broke you early on purpose. It's phony and repugnant....impotent as well and we could die fast and still watch the erasure of ridiculous, suicide culture child you.
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Last Edited by Timur2020 on 05/24/2020 11:43 AM
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind"

Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
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I haven’t been following this issue very closely, but regardless of the sanctions, that is absolutely pathetic that this shipment was even necessary because Venezuela, a country that floats on an ocean of oil, has to have its fuel imported from the other side of the planet.

Nice job, socialism.
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kitty Yeah and sabotage had nothing to do with it.
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I haven’t been following this issue very closely, but regardless of the sanctions, that is absolutely pathetic that this shipment was even necessary because Venezuela, a country that floats on an ocean of oil, has to have its fuel imported from the other side of the planet.

Nice job, socialism.
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kitty Yeah and sabotage had nothing to do with it.
 Quoting: Judethz

What sabotage? Who's sabotaging?

epiclol
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind"

Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
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CARACAS, Venezuela — The first of five tankers loaded with gasoline sent from Iran reached Venezuelan waters late Saturday, expected to temporarily ease the South American nation’s fuel crunch while defying Trump administration sanctions targeting the two U.S. foes.

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 Quoting: Ohio chic


so let me understand this...

the global economy is shit and the oil industry is tanking because of an oversupply of oil, yet the US won't allow Venezuela to have any oil because Trump is holding a grudge?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66099637


Not even close to accurate. Read about venezuela sanctions. They aren't just sanctioned by us, just like iran, north korea and a few other countries like russia. Yes they are still under sanction.
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All of these sancations are because the Trump admin doesn't like the Maduro Regime. Legitimate regime or not, it's none of our fucking business, Period. The Maduro regime sees through the US bullshit and is taking a stand against the US and Trump doesn't like it. That's all it's about. You need to go and read about the sanctions. Here's a link for you and a quote... [link to www.state.gov (secure)]

The United States will continue to work with our democratic partners in the region and around the world to support Interim President Guaidó, the democratically elected National Assembly, and the people of Venezuela as they seek to restore constitutional order and democracy to their country.
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Sanctions are preferable to WAR.
That's how nations USED TO make
other nations bend to their will.

The history of MANKIND is
PERPETUAL WARFARE, and CONQUEST.

Sanctions are more like arm-twisting
rather than head chopping.

Like it or not,
THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.


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VERY THOUGHTFUL AND INFORMED COMMENT IMHO
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Tanker Carrying Gasoline From Iran Reaches Venezuela.

OK. Let's see.

Has the Iranian tanker attacked anyone on the way to Venezuela? Have they bothered anyone?

Not that I know of.

I guess not.

So?

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“Gasoline” sure.
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100% Doom off as always, only real chance of a huuge catastrophic war is when the States is on its last legs, it will drag the whole world down along with it but the chances of that happening are minuscule, the Federal Reserve just prints more cash to get itself out of trouble
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I haven’t been following this issue very closely, but regardless of the sanctions, that is absolutely pathetic that this shipment was even necessary because Venezuela, a country that floats on an ocean of oil, has to have its fuel imported from the other side of the planet.

Nice job, socialism.
 Quoting: Revbo™


FACT: Venezuela used to be the most richest & Prosperous country in south America. I remember people talking about retiring there all the time.
Then Chavez shows up with his socialism horseshit...now the citizens are eating out of garbage cans.....Happens every time....
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Tanker Carrying Gasoline From Iran Reaches Venezuela.

OK. Let's see.

Has the Iranian tanker attacked anyone on the way to Venezuela? Have they bothered anyone?

Not that I know of.

I guess not.

So?

abduct
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I think that matters to people who que and buy sh*t?
The rest is a little more complicated and you are embarrassingly simple.
“Gasoline” sure.
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One does wonder and we will see? But, on top of their other woes, it looks like
explosion
is inevitable
I haven’t been following this issue very closely, but regardless of the sanctions, that is absolutely pathetic that this shipment was even necessary because Venezuela, a country that floats on an ocean of oil, has to have its fuel imported from the other side of the planet.

Nice job, socialism.
 Quoting: Revbo™


FACT: Venezuela used to be the most richest & Prosperous country in south America. I remember people talking about retiring there all the time.
Then Chavez shows up with his socialism horseshit...now the citizens are eating out of garbage cans.....Happens every time....
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epiclol
tard
That's our fault too in some way I am sure. "Chey was see-aye-aay!"
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind"

Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too.

I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo.
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So fucking what? If your sanctions
require warships to enforce then it’s an act
of war. Go fuck your self America and die slowly....
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Haha some wanker has an opinion, go get fucked mate
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So fucking what? If your sanctions
require warships to enforce then it’s an act
of war. Go fuck your self America and die slowly....
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Are you a chicom shill?? what will you do if China starts enforcing their sanctions on Australia with warships?

Oh sorry forgot you're a chicom shill so you'd be thrilled.
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hesright
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I haven’t been following this issue very closely, but regardless of the sanctions, that is absolutely pathetic that this shipment was even necessary because Venezuela, a country that floats on an ocean of oil, has to have its fuel imported from the other side of the planet.

Nice job, socialism.
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Actually it just says the sanctions worked. They never had electronics manufacturing in Venezuela, and what about Stuxnet? They probably got all their electronics permanently whacked.
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CARACAS, Venezuela — The first of five tankers loaded with gasoline sent from Iran reached Venezuelan waters late Saturday, expected to temporarily ease the South American nation’s fuel crunch while defying Trump administration sanctions targeting the two U.S. foes.

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why the hell does a countryd roning in oil need to import gas
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"Sanctions" are actually unlawful acts of war against the targeted nations.

The US is in a state of undeclared war against the ever growing list of countries that we are trying (and failing) to destroy by crippling their economies with these "sanctions".
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these sanctions do not hurt the rich they hurt the poor.

it is a global war on poor people by the wretched wealthy and powerful of the US
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Good. Sanctions are stupid and cause wars as desperation increases.
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"Sanctions" are actually unlawful acts of war against the targeted nations.

The US is in a state of undeclared war against the ever growing list of countries that we are trying (and failing) to destroy by crippling their economies with these "sanctions".
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Tell it to the UN, the #1 issuer and enforcer of sanctions
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CARACAS, Venezuela — The first of five tankers loaded with gasoline sent from Iran reached Venezuelan waters late Saturday, expected to temporarily ease the South American nation’s fuel crunch while defying Trump administration sanctions targeting the two U.S. foes.

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why the hell does a countryd roning in oil need to import gas
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I haven’t been following this issue very closely, but regardless of the sanctions, that is absolutely pathetic that this shipment was even necessary because Venezuela, a country that floats on an ocean of oil, has to have its fuel imported from the other side of the planet.

Nice job, socialism.
 Quoting: Revbo™


yeah Socialism attacks their hydro electric damns with EMP weapons and blows up their oil refineries

it's absolutely pathetic , you are right.

that Americans run around the world destroying everyone else's lives and then laughs at them with sneering anger at the devastated people they ruined

they couldn't possibly be more wicked
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I watched most of this video ... shortage of gas in Venezuela and regular joe's are smuggling gas from Columbia to Venezuela for 30 times their investment so they can feed their families ... ...
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"Sanctions" are actually unlawful acts of war against the targeted nations.

The US is in a state of undeclared war against the ever growing list of countries that we are trying (and failing) to destroy by crippling their economies with these "sanctions".
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If you add up all the wars, the US is engaged in a WORLD WAR.

Communist China has been helping the US wage this war for about 20 years now. It provides, military, manufacturing and POLITICAL support. Until recently.

The US has been losing those wars all along. Calling it "success" when striking defenseless dirt farmers and 3,000 year old irrigation and water systems in the Middle East and Africa. Then blaming the millions of refugees on "Climate Change."

China has helped enormumously with all the above. They provided Obama political cover as he tried to bomb "people of color" into submission in a dozen nations.

Things are going very badly for the American people. The country is quite literally on it's last legs. It's not honest about anything. It's all one "hurry-up stampede" after another. Staged wars. Staged shooting. Staged racism. Staged sexism. All distractions from the stripping of wealth.
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"Sanctions" are actually unlawful acts of war against the targeted nations.

The US is in a state of undeclared war against the ever growing list of countries that we are trying (and failing) to destroy by crippling their economies with these "sanctions".
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Tell it to the UN, the #1 issuer and enforcer of sanctions
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Most US sanctions are currently unilateral. Which are illegal.

Some "sanctions" have a hodgepodge of support from the EU or NATO, but most do not have UN support.
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Think in of getting a tanker or so for myself.

Anyone interested in a half tanker will deliver anywhere in the world.

Will not accept payment in United States Dollars.

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I haven’t been following this issue very closely, but regardless of the sanctions, that is absolutely pathetic that this shipment was even necessary because Venezuela, a country that floats on an ocean of oil, has to have its fuel imported from the other side of the planet.

Nice job, socialism.
 Quoting: Revbo™


It doesn't have anything to do with "socialism" - they simply can't get the equipment or parts or experts to build a proper refinery because of... sanctions.

The USA, unable to commandeer their oil fields, has decided to put the screws to the population as a form of economic/trade terrorism.

But don't worry, the USA's sanctions game is running out of gas and soon we'll all get to feel the pain as well.

In 10 years every American politician will be saying "Venezuela, Iran? We've ALWAYS been allies with them silly!"
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So fucking what? If your sanctions
require warships to enforce then it’s an act
of war. Go fuck your self America and die slowly....
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No fuck you you stupid Ozzie cunt go shake a kangaroo dick . You have no idea how the world works dickhead . U want venezuela to keep suffering ? As long as shit stick Maduro is in charge all the oil in the world wont help their economy .
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The shit sanctions don't hurt anybody but the citizens of Venezuela!

Maduro living like a king no matter what.

You want change there then take him out. It would take the US military 24 hours to take control, but no, lets let this take a decade and thousands of innocent lives!!!
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CARACAS, Venezuela — The first of five tankers loaded with gasoline sent from Iran reached Venezuelan waters late Saturday, expected to temporarily ease the South American nation’s fuel crunch while defying Trump administration sanctions targeting the two U.S. foes.

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 Quoting: Ohio chic


First off, just because the US has sanctions imposed on Iran does *NOT* mean that Iran cannot trade with other nations (like Venezuela). It simply means that the US cannot trade with Iran.

So, in order for Iran to be “defying US sanctions,” they would have to be trading with the US either directly or through some intermediary. Or, American Corporations or businesses would have to be trading directly or indirectly with Iran (in violation of US sanctions).

Now, if we had an embargo against Venezuela or Iran, then we would have shut down their ports with a naval blockade and anyone running that blockade would be in violation of the embargo... but sanctions and embargos are two different things hoping to achieve the same effective goals.

Therefore, Iranian ships carrying petroleum based fuels have every right to travel to Venezuela and deliver their product. Neither Iran nor Venezuela have sanctions on each other nor does the US have a current embargo on either nation (though we have naval vessels in nearby international waters). The nearby US warships did not move to stop the shipments because in doing so it would be considered an act of war.

I am not saying that I agree with letting this trade happen. I am simply stating that no US economic sanctions were violated in this instance. Do we allow Iran and Venezuela to trade freely? Well, stopping them (via an embargo) could and eventually would lead to war with one or both of nations and their respective allies.





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