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Tanker Carrying Gasoline From Iran Reaches Venezuela, Defying U.S. Sanctions

 
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CARACAS, Venezuela — The first of five tankers loaded with gasoline sent from Iran reached Venezuelan waters late Saturday, expected to temporarily ease the South American nation’s fuel crunch while defying Trump administration sanctions targeting the two U.S. foes.

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 Quoting: Ohio chic


First off, just because the US has sanctions imposed on Iran does *NOT* mean that Iran cannot trade with other nations (like Venezuela). It simply means that the US cannot trade with Iran.

So, in order for Iran to be “defying US sanctions,” they would have to be trading with the US either directly or through some intermediary. Or, American Corporations or businesses would have to be trading directly or indirectly with Iran (in violation of US sanctions).

Now, if we had an embargo against Venezuela or Iran, then we would have shut down their ports with a naval blockade and anyone running that blockade would be in violation of the embargo... but sanctions and embargos are two different things hoping to achieve the same effective goals.

Therefore, Iranian ships carrying petroleum based fuels have every right to travel to Venezuela and deliver their product. Neither Iran nor Venezuela have sanctions on each other nor does the US have a current embargo on either nation (though we have naval vessels in nearby international waters). The nearby US warships did not move to stop the shipments because in doing so it would be considered an act of war.

I am not saying that I agree with letting this trade happen. I am simply stating that no US economic sanctions were violated in this instance. Do we allow Iran and Venezuela to trade freely? Well, stopping them (via an embargo) could and eventually would lead to war with one or both of nations and their respective allies.
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Why is it our biz?

Isn't that proving all "conspiracy theorys" about the USA being OIL WAR MONGERS correct?

I am disgusted with this country. How much more oil do we need.
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FACT: Venezuela used to be the most richest & Prosperous country in south America. I remember people talking about retiring there all the time.
Then Chavez shows up with his socialism horseshit...now the citizens are eating out of garbage cans.....Happens every time....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78552248


WRONG, the people were living in poverty while foriegn oil companies exploited them badly.

Venezuela will hold on just like Cuba did.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78946822


True. God bless Maduro and Venezuela.hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69086939


Maduro is mostly Indian, did you know that? Almost everyone in south America is, and most of Mexico.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78946822


So? Chavez was too. And Kennedy was a Catholic. So what?
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05/24/2020 09:21 PM
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Re: Tanker Carrying Gasoline From Iran Reaches Venezuela, Defying U.S. Sanctions
I haven’t been following this issue very closely, but regardless of the sanctions, that is absolutely pathetic that this shipment was even necessary because Venezuela, a country that floats on an ocean of oil, has to have its fuel imported from the other side of the planet.

Nice job, socialism.
 Quoting: Revbo™


The US, our country says, not only can you not sell to us, you cannot sell to anyone else and like a good nagger, we back it up with violence. Our country meddles in everyone else's business.
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True.
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Trump is a pussy!! I wish the damn deep state all you tin foil hat asses keep screaming about wold end it already. Damn great money to be earned in Venezuela if we had a president that had a pair of balls to kick some ass. Contracts are already inked but this damn dumb ass president want give the go order. Should have sunk those damn tankers. That fuck Venezuela and iran at the same time. Plus no other ships would try it the insurance companies make sure of that.

To the aussie asshole poster above. America can do what ever we damn please as we make this world go around. You Aussie's have never did anything and never will but ride on Americas coat tale.
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Re: Tanker Carrying Gasoline From Iran Reaches Venezuela, Defying U.S. Sanctions
CARACAS, Venezuela — The first of five tankers loaded with gasoline sent from Iran reached Venezuelan waters late Saturday, expected to temporarily ease the South American nation’s fuel crunch while defying Trump administration sanctions targeting the two U.S. foes.

[link to globalnews.ca (secure)]
 Quoting: Ohio chic


that short blurb says so much, the communist CBC favours Venezuela defiance over our ally the US, and that internationally communists are taking over the world.
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Trump is a pussy!! I wish the damn deep state all you tin foil hat asses keep screaming about wold end it already. Damn great money to be earned in Venezuela if we had a president that had a pair of balls to kick some ass. Contracts are already inked but this damn dumb ass president want give the go order. Should have sunk those damn tankers. That fuck Venezuela and iran at the same time. Plus no other ships would try it the insurance companies make sure of that.

To the aussie asshole poster above. America can do what ever we damn please as we make this world go around. You Aussie's have never did anything and never will but ride on Americas coat tale.
 Quoting: Surferdude


You must be a dual citizen. You love to steal from others and rob them blind. Go back to whatever country your family came from. No shekels for you today.
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05/24/2020 11:52 PM
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We are the bully of the world starving millions of people in Middle East,Venezuela looting their natural resources for oil and banking cabal, end time Babylon, we'll burn in one hour.
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