Report just released about Asymptomatic carriers exposed 455 contacts and their results | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78886157 United States 05/25/2020 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump is surrounded by the swamp and doesn't know who he can trust not to stab him in the back with bad advice. Quoting: 2hot2handle how long are you cultists going to keep this shit up? who exactly is in charge? who calls the shots? not donny? then who? is he an incompetent fool whose decisions are all made for him? he isn't culpable for any bad shit that happens on his watch? because 'swamp'? bullshit. Trump is not a doctor and was taking the advice of so called experts like Dr. Fauci who had an agenda to push which had nothing to do with good science or public health. But, Biden or Killery would know! Thats Lefty reasoning right there ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43536444 Canada 05/25/2020 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 455 contacts who were exposed to the asymptomatic COVID-19 virus carrier became the subjects of our research. And No coronavirus infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. CONCLUSION Asymptomatic = hoax |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43536444 Canada 05/25/2020 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 455 contacts who were exposed to the asymptomatic COVID-19 virus carrier became the subjects of our research. RESULT No coronavirus infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. CONCLUSION Asymptomatic = hoax |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78951962 Canada 05/25/2020 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump is surrounded by the swamp and doesn't know who he can trust not to stab him in the back with bad advice. Quoting: 2hot2handle how long are you cultists going to keep this shit up? who exactly is in charge? who calls the shots? not donny? then who? is he an incompetent fool whose decisions are all made for him? he isn't culpable for any bad shit that happens on his watch? because 'swamp'? bullshit. Trump is not a doctor and was taking the advice of so called experts like Dr. Fauci who had an agenda to push which had nothing to do with good science or public health. But, Biden or Killery would know! Thats Lefty reasoning right there ! I know! They wouldn't fare any better because they would of been given the same bad advice by Dr. Fauci. If you can't trust so called experts not to deliberately mislead you who can you trust. Your own limited knowledge on viruses and public health? |
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Michibama
User ID: 78437117 United States 05/25/2020 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood counts in most contacts were within a normal range. All CT images showed no sign of COVID-19 infection. No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78886157 Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and ] we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. What does that tell you ? [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Its all bullshit ! But we continue to crush the economy. All the people that want to continue the lockdowns will themselves pay the price, when it comes their time ! Look 100k people have died here in the last few months, which can’t be faked. They roughly knew who the at risk people were. Why didn’t they just sequester the much smaller group of at risk people instead of locking everyone up? Do you guys think the decisions to do these lockdowns etc were made based on faulty info coming out of China, disinformation? No, you to take a good hard look at that 100k. Most of those people actually died because they had serious co-morbidities to the extent a bad case of the flu or food poisoning would have resulted in death as well. Speaking of the flu, you dont find it curious our death numbers for things like the flu, cardiac arrest, cancer etc have dropped to the floor in heavily impacted communities? They are counting ant death as a COVID death in positive patients. This isn't speculation- Dr. Birx confirmed this from her own mouth at a WH presser. Is COVID real? Is it bad? Sure. Was it worth the over reaction? No way. I'm not pleased with Trump's handling but then again I realize to a certain extent he had no choice. All the stimulus floors me especially when I see billionaires getting more rich off it while the poor suffered immensely. I also realize it was mostly Democrat governers who pooped the bed on this but Trump will take the heat from 99.9% of non critical thinkers. I am starting to think China set up a big ruse with all the disinformation, canceled phones, dissident culling and the non-discerning in our rulers and Intel agencies took the bait. sorry if already mentioned, but what about the videos of people falling down dead all over? We haven't seen that either. “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77288913 United States 05/25/2020 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks. I'm printing that for any tracers that I might hear from. You never know. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77288913 Fuck 'em! How many are they hiring and for what ? In CA, they're hiring 10,000. They trace people who may have come in contact with a person who tested positive. As of right now (in CA) if a person tests positive, they are quarantined and are "interviewed" as to who they made contact with for the previous two weeks. Those tracers then call all of those people to "warn" them and arrange to test them. If they can't get them on the phone, they will go knock on doors to find them. Next is phone tracing. Supposedly it's not happening here YET, but it has started in other states. With the new system updates on both Apple and Android, they are including a forced app called Exposure Notifications API. Those apps will work with bluetooth tech to log all other devices that the infected person's phone communicated with in that two weeks prior to testing positive. [link to www.abc10.com (secure)] This is a link geared towards Apple, but it includes Android info as well. [link to 9to5mac.com (secure)] How it works: [link to 9to5mac.com (secure)] They say it's "voluntary." That is bullshit! |
Itl83
User ID: 21636777 United States 05/25/2020 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Asymptomatic = keyword to get everyone afraid without seeing people dropping like flies. The ultimate buzzword getting people to buy into the fear, become submissive and not angry with the gestapo taking over. |
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User ID: 42541037 United States 05/25/2020 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood counts in most contacts were within a normal range. All CT images showed no sign of COVID-19 infection. No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78886157 Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and ] we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. What does that tell you ? [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Its all bullshit ! But we continue to crush the economy. All the people that want to continue the lockdowns will themselves pay the price, when it comes their time ! Look 100k people have died here in the last few months, which can’t be faked. They roughly knew who the at risk people were. Why didn’t they just sequester the much smaller group of at risk people instead of locking everyone up? Do you guys think the decisions to do these lockdowns etc were made based on faulty info coming out of China, disinformation? MIGHT be 50,000 deaths. This is a joke. Time to get on with it. |
ElleMira
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71663454 United States 05/25/2020 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood counts in most contacts were within a normal range. All CT images showed no sign of COVID-19 infection. No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78886157 Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and ] we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. What does that tell you ? [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Its all bullshit ! But we continue to crush the economy. All the people that want to continue the lockdowns will themselves pay the price, when it comes their time ! Look 100k people have died here in the last few months, which can’t be faked. They roughly knew who the at risk people were. Why didn’t they just sequester the much smaller group of at risk people instead of locking everyone up? Do you guys think the decisions to do these lockdowns etc were made based on faulty info coming out of China, disinformation? Many of those cases were counted TWICE...Many of those cases were just common FLU. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78897362 United States 05/25/2020 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood counts in most contacts were within a normal range. All CT images showed no sign of COVID-19 infection. No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78886157 Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and ] we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. What does that tell you ? [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Its all bullshit ! But we continue to crush the economy. All the people that want to continue the lockdowns will themselves pay the price, when it comes their time ! Look 100k people have died here in the last few months, which can’t be faked. They roughly knew who the at risk people were. Why didn’t they just sequester the much smaller group of at risk people instead of locking everyone up? Do you guys think the decisions to do these lockdowns etc were made based on faulty info coming out of China, disinformation? Your 100,000 number IS bullshit. The virus HAS been Crispered. Fauci OWNs gp 120! This was a bio weapon. 305 deaths IN MUMBAI?????? Plan Demic. |
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THNKuCLLR
User ID: 73053856 United States 05/25/2020 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood counts in most contacts were within a normal range. All CT images showed no sign of COVID-19 infection. No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78886157 Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and ] we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. What does that tell you ? [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Its all bullshit ! But we continue to crush the economy. All the people that want to continue the lockdowns will themselves pay the price, when it comes their time ! Look 100k people have died here in the last few months, which can’t be faked. They roughly knew who the at risk people were. Why didn’t they just sequester the much smaller group of at risk people instead of locking everyone up? Do you guys think the decisions to do these lockdowns etc were made based on faulty info coming out of China, disinformation? Can you imagine the “discrimination” lawsuits? Allowing some people to have freedom of movement, while restricting it to others. Based on what? Age? Then you’d have age discrimination. Based on health factors? The majority of Americans have some sort of health issue that allegedly makes them more susceptible to severe infection from this. Based on race? It’s hitting blacks and Hispanics harder than other races. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77727754 Canada 05/25/2020 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood counts in most contacts were within a normal range. All CT images showed no sign of COVID-19 infection. No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78886157 Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and ] we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. What does that tell you ? [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Its all bullshit ! But we continue to crush the economy. All the people that want to continue the lockdowns will themselves pay the price, when it comes their time ! Look 100k people have died here in the last few months, which can’t be faked. They roughly knew who the at risk people were. Why didn’t they just sequester the much smaller group of at risk people instead of locking everyone up? Do you guys think the decisions to do these lockdowns etc were made based on faulty info coming out of China, disinformation? They padded the numbers and a lot of people died from the regular flu. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78629642 Canada 05/25/2020 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood counts in most contacts were within a normal range. All CT images showed no sign of COVID-19 infection. No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78886157 Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and ] we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. What does that tell you ? [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Its all bullshit ! But we continue to crush the economy. All the people that want to continue the lockdowns will themselves pay the price, when it comes their time ! Look 100k people have died here in the last few months, which can’t be faked. They roughly knew who the at risk people were. Why didn’t they just sequester the much smaller group of at risk people instead of locking everyone up? Do you guys think the decisions to do these lockdowns etc were made based on faulty info coming out of China, disinformation? No, you to take a good hard look at that 100k. Most of those people actually died because they had serious co-morbidities to the extent a bad case of the flu or food poisoning would have resulted in death as well. Speaking of the flu, you dont find it curious our death numbers for things like the flu, cardiac arrest, cancer etc have dropped to the floor in heavily impacted communities? They are counting ant death as a COVID death in positive patients. This isn't speculation- Dr. Birx confirmed this from her own mouth at a WH presser. Is COVID real? Is it bad? Sure. Was it worth the over reaction? No way. I'm not pleased with Trump's handling but then again I realize to a certain extent he had no choice. All the stimulus floors me especially when I see billionaires getting more rich off it while the poor suffered immensely. I also realize it was mostly Democrat governers who pooped the bed on this but Trump will take the heat from 99.9% of non critical thinkers. I am starting to think China set up a big ruse with all the disinformation, canceled phones, dissident culling and the non-discerning in our rulers and Intel agencies took the bait. I’m increasingly beginning to think the paragraph highlighted In bold above is the correct assessment. The big question is why did the intel agencies and governments take the bait? Why was the now-discredited projection by Imperial College accepted and acted on? Why have the news media been so abjectly irresponsible on their reportage of the coronavirus? Are governments and politicians so afraid of having made mistakes in handling the pandemic that they cannot admit to them, and are willing to destroy the economy and sacrifice lives just to save their hides? Finally, cui bono? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78430146 United States 05/25/2020 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood counts in most contacts were within a normal range. All CT images showed no sign of COVID-19 infection. No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78886157 Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and ] we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. What does that tell you ? [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Its all bullshit ! But we continue to crush the economy. All the people that want to continue the lockdowns will themselves pay the price, when it comes their time ! Look 100k people have died here in the last few months, which can’t be faked. They roughly knew who the at risk people were. Why didn’t they just sequester the much smaller group of at risk people instead of locking everyone up? Do you guys think the decisions to do these lockdowns etc were made based on faulty info coming out of China, disinformation? 2.8 million people die each year in the US. That is about 233k per month. They are only counting people who would have died anyway. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77288913 United States 05/25/2020 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope, it's the reason it wasnt worse. PA, NY and MI numbers are looking good. Many red states are climbing. Time will be unkind to dumb. I'm not against the initial lock-down, but the tyrant governors are taking this way too far. We were supposed to "flatten the curve" not destroy the entire economy - and continuing to do so is purely political. The reason for flattening the curve was that hospitals were not initially prepared for a full on assault of this virus. We needed time to get the much needed supplies to medical facilities. No one was saying that the spread of this disease would be stopped - just slow it down. We have done that. In fact, we crushed it! Hospitals have all the supplies, and now we have viable treatments - and hospitals are empty. Many more will get this disease. It was expected from the beginning. But now we are prepared to respond. It's time to open up. |
Arthur Jackson
User ID: 76244356 United States 05/25/2020 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood counts in most contacts were within a normal range. All CT images showed no sign of COVID-19 infection. No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78886157 Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and ] we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. What does that tell you ? [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Its all bullshit ! But we continue to crush the economy. All the people that want to continue the lockdowns will themselves pay the price, when it comes their time ! Look 100k people have died here in the last few months, which can’t be faked. They roughly knew who the at risk people were. Why didn’t they just sequester the much smaller group of at risk people instead of locking everyone up? Do you guys think the decisions to do these lockdowns etc were made based on faulty info coming out of China, disinformation? And a POS model that predicted millions would die. Smoke me a kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast. If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools. — Plato “AI is kind of a fancy thing, first of all it’s two letters. It means artificial intelligence.” Kamala Harris VPOTUS |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78950439 United States 05/25/2020 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood counts in most contacts were within a normal range. All CT images showed no sign of COVID-19 infection. No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78886157 Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and ] we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. What does that tell you ? [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Its all bullshit ! But we continue to crush the economy. All the people that want to continue the lockdowns will themselves pay the price, when it comes their time ! Look 100k people have died here in the last few months, which can’t be faked. They roughly knew who the at risk people were. Why didn’t they just sequester the much smaller group of at risk people instead of locking everyone up? Do you guys think the decisions to do these lockdowns etc were made based on faulty info coming out of China, disinformation? you don't find it a bid odd that the U.S. numbers of deaths are at least 3 times higher than anywhere else in the world? does that not beg to question that just MAYBE all those deaths aren't from the virus, but just being labeled as such? Russia has 350,000 confirmed and only 3600 deaths. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78950439 United States 05/25/2020 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood counts in most contacts were within a normal range. All CT images showed no sign of COVID-19 infection. No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78886157 Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and ] we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. What does that tell you ? [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Its all bullshit ! But we continue to crush the economy. All the people that want to continue the lockdowns will themselves pay the price, when it comes their time ! Look 100k people have died here in the last few months, which can’t be faked. They roughly knew who the at risk people were. Why didn’t they just sequester the much smaller group of at risk people instead of locking everyone up? Do you guys think the decisions to do these lockdowns etc were made based on faulty info coming out of China, disinformation? They padded the numbers and a lot of people died from the regular flu. if you look at some states websited, they completely QUIT counting flu deaths and flu cases early april, as if it went from high risk flu season to NOTHING in one day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77288913 United States 05/25/2020 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood counts in most contacts were within a normal range. All CT images showed no sign of COVID-19 infection. No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78886157 Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and ] we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. What does that tell you ? [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Its all bullshit ! But we continue to crush the economy. All the people that want to continue the lockdowns will themselves pay the price, when it comes their time ! Look 100k people have died here in the last few months, which can’t be faked. They roughly knew who the at risk people were. Why didn’t they just sequester the much smaller group of at risk people instead of locking everyone up? Do you guys think the decisions to do these lockdowns etc were made based on faulty info coming out of China, disinformation? No, you to take a good hard look at that 100k. Most of those people actually died because they had serious co-morbidities to the extent a bad case of the flu or food poisoning would have resulted in death as well. Speaking of the flu, you dont find it curious our death numbers for things like the flu, cardiac arrest, cancer etc have dropped to the floor in heavily impacted communities? They are counting ant death as a COVID death in positive patients. This isn't speculation- Dr. Birx confirmed this from her own mouth at a WH presser. Is COVID real? Is it bad? Sure. Was it worth the over reaction? No way. I'm not pleased with Trump's handling but then again I realize to a certain extent he had no choice. All the stimulus floors me especially when I see billionaires getting more rich off it while the poor suffered immensely. I also realize it was mostly Democrat governers who pooped the bed on this but Trump will take the heat from 99.9% of non critical thinkers. I am starting to think China set up a big ruse with all the disinformation, canceled phones, dissident culling and the non-discerning in our rulers and Intel agencies took the bait. sorry if already mentioned, but what about the videos of people falling down dead all over? We haven't seen that either. This. They could have had massive heart disease before supposedly being infected. Hell, they may not even have been infected - just straight out heart attacks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73027889 United States 05/25/2020 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about that sales representative trainer that went to Germany who infected 5 others in the training class? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77082211 He got it from them. Was that something new that they found out? Because this article said that she was the one who spread it without having any symptoms. Link: [link to www.scientificamerican.com (secure)] But then that lady finally found someone who LISTEN TO HER and she said she DID have symptoms. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77419313 United States 05/25/2020 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood counts in most contacts were within a normal range. All CT images showed no sign of COVID-19 infection. No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78886157 Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and ] we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. What does that tell you ? [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Its all bullshit ! But we continue to crush the economy. All the people that want to continue the lockdowns will themselves pay the price, when it comes their time ! Look 100k people have died here in the last few months, which can’t be faked. They roughly knew who the at risk people were. Why didn’t they just sequester the much smaller group of at risk people instead of locking everyone up? Do you guys think the decisions to do these lockdowns etc were made based on faulty info coming out of China, disinformation? you don't find it a bid odd that the U.S. numbers of deaths are at least 3 times higher than anywhere else in the world? does that not beg to question that just MAYBE all those deaths aren't from the virus, but just being labeled as such? Russia has 350,000 confirmed and only 3600 deaths. You trust Russia #'s. Oh geezs. |