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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78738016 United States 05/26/2020 02:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul, who was named Saul, was born in Tarsus, in the country we now call Turkey, then a Roman province. This made him a Roman citizen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48881331 Jesus and the disciples were born in Israel a protectorate (conquered land) of Rome and could not claim Roman citizenship. Why wouldn't anyone born in Israel at that time also be a Roman citizen? Even the pharisees declared Caesar to be their king, that would make them, what? Dual nationals? Citizens of Israel and Rome? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76760905 United States 05/26/2020 02:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul, who was named Saul, was born in Tarsus, in the country we now call Turkey, then a Roman province. This made him a Roman citizen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48881331 Jesus and the disciples were born in Israel a protectorate (conquered land) of Rome and could not claim Roman citizenship. Why wouldn't anyone born in Israel at that time also be a Roman citizen? Even the pharisees declared Caesar to be their king, that would make them, what? Dual nationals? Citizens of Israel and Rome? Poster explained it in the 2nd paragraph, Israel was a protectorate not a province. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78952385 United States 05/26/2020 03:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul, who was named Saul, was born in Tarsus, in the country we now call Turkey, then a Roman province. This made him a Roman citizen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48881331 Jesus and the disciples were born in Israel a protectorate (conquered land) of Rome and could not claim Roman citizenship. Wrong answer. Only Roman's had defacto Roman Citizenship. Others, for providing service to Rome, can be given Roman citizenship. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78901513 United States 05/26/2020 05:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul who? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78226074 Judus,Thaddeus,Mathew,James,Thomas Nathaniel,Phillip,John,Andrew,James,Simon, Peter. Paul is constantly brought up on this forum yet he wasn't one of the 12. [link to enigmose.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8636569 United States 05/26/2020 06:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Peter deferred to Paul. Paul was ABOVE Peter in the knowledge and revelation of spiritual things, and Peter KNEW THAT, and gave Paul the respect and love he deserved. The Paul bashers of today (and they are all over GLP) are DECEIVERS, but those who are TRUE children of God, see through them like transparent glass, thanks to the Holy Spirit within us. 2 PETER 3 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78295150 United States 05/26/2020 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Peter deferred to Paul. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8636569 Paul was ABOVE Peter in the knowledge and revelation of spiritual things, and Peter KNEW THAT, and gave Paul the respect and love he deserved. The Paul bashers of today (and they are all over GLP) are DECEIVERS, but those who are TRUE children of God, see through them like transparent glass, thanks to the Holy Spirit within us. 2 PETER 3 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Knowing the truth does not mean the Holy Spirit is in a person, but knowing and accepting Jesus Christ is God is a good first step. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79000379 United States 06/06/2020 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A challenge for anyone who says that "Paul teaches a different message than Jesus or the other Apostles". "Not the same message"? Have you EVER LOOKED at scriptures to CHECK that "claim"? ----------------------------- 1. Repent Matthew 4:17 (KJV) From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Mark 1:15 And saying*, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe* the gospel. Paul - Repentence? Check Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. 2. Believe John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Paul - Belief that Jesus is the Son of God? Check Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: 3. Obey / Keep the Commandments Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. Paul - Commandments? Check 1 Thessalonians 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus. 4. Do the Father's Will Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. Paul - Doing the Father's Will? Check Ephesians 6:6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; 5. Forgive others so the Father will forgive you. Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Paul - Forgiveness 2 Corinthians 2:7 So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow. -------------------- X. Be "born again". John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. NO Paul - but Peter. 1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. |