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User ID: 76832232 United States 05/27/2020 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the beginning - Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47426083 Reason: jesus according to the text was the word made flesh So he existed in heaven prior to his walk on earth? One theory is that he was born as a regular baby to Mary, and that the spirit of God descended on him and began Co-inhabiting his body at the time he was baptized in the Jordan River. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34404409 United States 05/27/2020 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, we believe in a version of reincarnation as described in the Zohar, it is much more humane than that of the hindoos or Buddhists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77665023 I don't know how many times i've been around, but it is no more than three, as per the Zohar. Not nearly as many lives have been touched by the Gita's that have been touched by the bible. It is why we are 2/3rds of the planet. You speak as if the hindoos and buddhist don't ever fight holy wars. They are just as evil as the rest of society even though you act as if they aren't. Yes, man made them up that is why they don't contain prophecies. The don't show more love, they show man's limited wisdom's on the functioning of this realm. They are just stories which is why the Gita's had to add in laws later. The same laws as treating the third gender as a terminally ill person of the lowest ranks. Did I say there was no corruuption in those belief systems? Did I say there are no psycotics in other religions? No. What I said was that many people's lives have been transformed by the book. More so, I would give a soulful guess, than by the OT. any wisdom to be found in the OT, outside of the prophets possible, was gleaned by sumerian writings. Plagiarized, I would say. The OT is as man-made as they come. Don't kid yourself.... you can keep telling yourself all day long, but it doesn't change HIStory. No , they don't contain prophecies, because they were not written by the god of this world. your god......the god that chose YOUR people to be his poster children. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78553829 United Kingdom 05/27/2020 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78553829 Thank you for responding! The only snag I have with that is a few of them where atheist and had no preconception of a heaven or a hell? I have heard Muslim NDE stories where they ended up in hell and came back as Christians which is a massive deal for them to switch religions. deception at its finest,,, again, imho the god of this world, is the same god of all three abrahamic religions. It does NOT love you .... it feeds off you. You are a food source for it. Even more sick is that your god allows it ... Again going back to the NDE stories from those that have crossed is that he is a god of love. In his presence you will.feel a love that is unmatched in anything you have felt. I do believe that because so many NDE stories repeat that aspect. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78553829 United Kingdom 05/27/2020 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the beginning - Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47426083 Reason: jesus according to the text was the word made flesh So he existed in heaven prior to his walk on earth? One theory is that he was born as a regular baby to Mary, and that the spirit of God descended on him and began Co-inhabiting his body at the time he was baptized in the Jordan River. His knowledge had to come from somewhere right? He spoke of heaven and praying, he must have had that insight from somewhere! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28658290 United States 05/27/2020 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the god of this world, is the same god of all three abrahamic religions. It does NOT love you .... it feeds off you. You are a food source for it. Even more sick is that your god allows it ... Again going back to the NDE stories from those that have crossed is that he is a god of love. In his presence you will.feel a love that is unmatched in anything you have felt. I do believe that because so many NDE stories repeat that aspect. you don't need NDE stories but some of them are great... The Father indwells YOU with a fragment of himself.. its a MIND fragment.. and you can feel it and listen to it and you need no proof from NDE stories.. :Love to you 2::consult divine w: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34404409 United States 05/27/2020 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, we believe in a version of reincarnation as described in the Zohar, it is much more humane than that of the hindoos or Buddhists. I don't know how many times i've been around, but it is no more than three, as per the Zohar. Not nearly as many lives have been touched by the Gita's that have been touched by the bible. It is why we are 2/3rds of the planet. You speak as if the hindoos and buddhist don't ever fight holy wars. They are just as evil as the rest of society even though you act as if they aren't. Yes, man made them up that is why they don't contain prophecies. The don't show more love, they show man's limited wisdom's on the functioning of this realm. They are just stories which is why the Gita's had to add in laws later. The same laws as treating the third gender as a terminally ill person of the lowest ranks. Ok, you are using a broad paintbrush to swath across billions of people that you feel you are entitled to judge and to speak for.... Please just stop. India may be involved in its skirmishes with china and pakistan... maybe even hold a bit of a grudge against Britain.... but do you see them invading other countries like USA does? nope. They keep to themselves, mind their own business..... have their own problems but the DON"T interject and project on the rest of the world like amerika does. and amerika, is primarily of 2 of the abrahamic belief systems. Very revealing. also, as i stated, my husband is hindu and i have hindu friends. NONE of them demonstrate the blood thirstiness demonstrated by the abrahimic religions. To the contrary, they are peaceful and very accepting of all beliefs, never imposing themself over another's. christians and the chosen people can learn alot from them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34404409 United States 05/27/2020 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78553829 Thank you for responding! The only snag I have with that is a few of them where atheist and had no preconception of a heaven or a hell? I have heard Muslim NDE stories where they ended up in hell and came back as Christians which is a massive deal for them to switch religions. deception at its finest,,, again, imho the god of this world, is the same god of all three abrahamic religions. It does NOT love you .... it feeds off you. You are a food source for it. Even more sick is that your god allows it ... please educate yourself..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77665023 United States 05/27/2020 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the god of this world, is the same god of all three abrahamic religions. It does NOT love you .... it feeds off you. You are a food source for it. Even more sick is that your god allows it ... please educate yourself..... No, you claim that your god is above G-d, whom you deem is the demiurge, thus your god allows your to suffer as a feeder of the demiurge. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34404409 United States 05/27/2020 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Satya Revelations the god of this world, is the same god of all three abrahamic religions. It does NOT love you .... it feeds off you. You are a food source for it. Even more sick is that your god allows it ... please educate yourself..... No, you claim that your god is above G-d, whom you deem is the demiurge, thus your god allows your to suffer as a feeder of the demiurge. it's obviously above your ability to understand.....OR you haven't taken the time to do your own research on the matter. It's not my job to educate you; that belongs to you. I will say that to base your whole belief system on a man-made book , tradition and what others tell you, is very dangerous to your soul. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77665023 United States 05/27/2020 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, we believe in a version of reincarnation as described in the Zohar, it is much more humane than that of the hindoos or Buddhists. I don't know how many times i've been around, but it is no more than three, as per the Zohar. Not nearly as many lives have been touched by the Gita's that have been touched by the bible. It is why we are 2/3rds of the planet. You speak as if the hindoos and buddhist don't ever fight holy wars. They are just as evil as the rest of society even though you act as if they aren't. Yes, man made them up that is why they don't contain prophecies. The don't show more love, they show man's limited wisdom's on the functioning of this realm. They are just stories which is why the Gita's had to add in laws later. The same laws as treating the third gender as a terminally ill person of the lowest ranks. Ok, you are using a broad paintbrush to swath across billions of people that you feel you are entitled to judge and to speak for.... Please just stop. India may be involved in its skirmishes with china and pakistan... maybe even hold a bit of a grudge against Britain.... but do you see them invading other countries like USA does? nope. They keep to themselves, mind their own business..... have their own problems but the DON"T interject and project on the rest of the world like amerika does. and amerika, is primarily of 2 of the abrahamic belief systems. Very revealing. also, as i stated, my husband is hindu and i have hindu friends. NONE of them demonstrate the blood thirstiness demonstrated by the abrahimic religions. To the contrary, they are peaceful and very accepting of all beliefs, never imposing themself over another's. christians and the chosen people can learn alot from them. Why must I stop doing the same thing that you keep doing? Why are you allowed your paintbrush, but mine must be dipped in turpentine. The Indians were put in there place and will stay there as their religion has taught them. You claim to follow your husbands beliefs to a degree, yet here you are basing mine. I know hindoos too and they are just as racists as they come. Here's a secret for you, everyone is a little bit racists sometimes! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34404409 United States 05/27/2020 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, we believe in a version of reincarnation as described in the Zohar, it is much more humane than that of the hindoos or Buddhists. I don't know how many times i've been around, but it is no more than three, as per the Zohar. Not nearly as many lives have been touched by the Gita's that have been touched by the bible. It is why we are 2/3rds of the planet. You speak as if the hindoos and buddhist don't ever fight holy wars. They are just as evil as the rest of society even though you act as if they aren't. Yes, man made them up that is why they don't contain prophecies. The don't show more love, they show man's limited wisdom's on the functioning of this realm. They are just stories which is why the Gita's had to add in laws later. The same laws as treating the third gender as a terminally ill person of the lowest ranks. Ok, you are using a broad paintbrush to swath across billions of people that you feel you are entitled to judge and to speak for.... Please just stop. India may be involved in its skirmishes with china and pakistan... maybe even hold a bit of a grudge against Britain.... but do you see them invading other countries like USA does? nope. They keep to themselves, mind their own business..... have their own problems but the DON"T interject and project on the rest of the world like amerika does. and amerika, is primarily of 2 of the abrahamic belief systems. Very revealing. also, as i stated, my husband is hindu and i have hindu friends. NONE of them demonstrate the blood thirstiness demonstrated by the abrahimic religions. To the contrary, they are peaceful and very accepting of all beliefs, never imposing themself over another's. christians and the chosen people can learn alot from them. Why must I stop doing the same thing that you keep doing? Why are you allowed your paintbrush, but mine must be dipped in turpentine. The Indians were put in there place and will stay there as their religion has taught them. You claim to follow your husbands beliefs to a degree, yet here you are basing mine. I know hindoos too and they are just as racists as they come. Here's a secret for you, everyone is a little bit racists sometimes! that's the world we live in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77665023 United States 05/27/2020 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, you claim that your god is above G-d, whom you deem is the demiurge, thus your god allows your to suffer as a feeder of the demiurge. it's obviously above your ability to understand.....OR you haven't taken the time to do your own research on the matter. It's not my job to educate you; that belongs to you. I will say that to base your whole belief system on a man-made book , tradition and what others tell you, is very dangerous to your soul. And you base your beliefs on whatever fairy tale you are able to sell yourself to make your heart pitter-patter. And how loving of you to not want to educate other peoples as to why your higher god allows a weaker god to 'harvest' them. Childish hogwash. I can google just as well as the next person. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75311439 United States 05/27/2020 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, whatever you do, be vary wary of User ID: 28658290. That person thinks that Jesus is walking the Earth right now, and lives in Chicago. That poster is bat shit freaking crazy! I have better answers to what you seek, that are scripture, and not some new age bs crap from that poster. Ban them |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77665023 United States 05/27/2020 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, we believe in a version of reincarnation as described in the Zohar, it is much more humane than that of the hindoos or Buddhists. I don't know how many times i've been around, but it is no more than three, as per the Zohar. Not nearly as many lives have been touched by the Gita's that have been touched by the bible. It is why we are 2/3rds of the planet. You speak as if the hindoos and buddhist don't ever fight holy wars. They are just as evil as the rest of society even though you act as if they aren't. Yes, man made them up that is why they don't contain prophecies. The don't show more love, they show man's limited wisdom's on the functioning of this realm. They are just stories which is why the Gita's had to add in laws later. The same laws as treating the third gender as a terminally ill person of the lowest ranks. Ok, you are using a broad paintbrush to swath across billions of people that you feel you are entitled to judge and to speak for.... Please just stop. India may be involved in its skirmishes with china and pakistan... maybe even hold a bit of a grudge against Britain.... but do you see them invading other countries like USA does? nope. They keep to themselves, mind their own business..... have their own problems but the DON"T interject and project on the rest of the world like amerika does. and amerika, is primarily of 2 of the abrahamic belief systems. Very revealing. also, as i stated, my husband is hindu and i have hindu friends. NONE of them demonstrate the blood thirstiness demonstrated by the abrahimic religions. To the contrary, they are peaceful and very accepting of all beliefs, never imposing themself over another's. christians and the chosen people can learn alot from them. Why must I stop doing the same thing that you keep doing? Why are you allowed your paintbrush, but mine must be dipped in turpentine. The Indians were put in there place and will stay there as their religion has taught them. You claim to follow your husbands beliefs to a degree, yet here you are basing mine. I know hindoos too and they are just as racists as they come. Here's a secret for you, everyone is a little bit racists sometimes! that's the world we live in. The world your god allows you to suffer in. Shameful of such a benevolent god as you claim them to be. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34404409 United States 05/27/2020 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, you claim that your god is above G-d, whom you deem is the demiurge, thus your god allows your to suffer as a feeder of the demiurge. it's obviously above your ability to understand.....OR you haven't taken the time to do your own research on the matter. It's not my job to educate you; that belongs to you. I will say that to base your whole belief system on a man-made book , tradition and what others tell you, is very dangerous to your soul. And you base your beliefs on whatever fairy tale you are able to sell yourself to make your heart pitter-patter. And how loving of you to not want to educate other peoples as to why your higher god allows a weaker god to 'harvest' them. Childish hogwash. I can google just as well as the next person. been nice chatting with you... tc, I've had enough |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77665023 United States 05/27/2020 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77665023 No, you claim that your god is above G-d, whom you deem is the demiurge, thus your god allows your to suffer as a feeder of the demiurge. it's obviously above your ability to understand.....OR you haven't taken the time to do your own research on the matter. It's not my job to educate you; that belongs to you. I will say that to base your whole belief system on a man-made book , tradition and what others tell you, is very dangerous to your soul. And you base your beliefs on whatever fairy tale you are able to sell yourself to make your heart pitter-patter. And how loving of you to not want to educate other peoples as to why your higher god allows a weaker god to 'harvest' them. Childish hogwash. I can google just as well as the next person. been nice chatting with you... tc, I've had enough I wish I could say I walked away with more knowledge, but sadly its just a bungled mess like the Demiurge Theory of Reality. Perhaps more at another time! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78553829 United Kingdom 05/27/2020 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77665023 No, you claim that your god is above G-d, whom you deem is the demiurge, thus your god allows your to suffer as a feeder of the demiurge. it's obviously above your ability to understand.....OR you haven't taken the time to do your own research on the matter. It's not my job to educate you; that belongs to you. I will say that to base your whole belief system on a man-made book , tradition and what others tell you, is very dangerous to your soul. And you base your beliefs on whatever fairy tale you are able to sell yourself to make your heart pitter-patter. And how loving of you to not want to educate other peoples as to why your higher god allows a weaker god to 'harvest' them. Childish hogwash. I can google just as well as the next person. been nice chatting with you... tc, I've had enough I appreciate your input! |
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User ID: 76832232 United States 05/27/2020 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the beginning - Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47426083 Reason: jesus according to the text was the word made flesh So he existed in heaven prior to his walk on earth? One theory is that he was born as a regular baby to Mary, and that the spirit of God descended on him and began Co-inhabiting his body at the time he was baptized in the Jordan River. His knowledge had to come from somewhere right? He spoke of heaven and praying, he must have had that insight from somewhere! The spirit of a God overshadowed the original soul of Jesus and spoke through him from that point on. So when the man Jesus was teaching, the words were inspired by God who was using Jesus as his instrument. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78924172 United States 05/27/2020 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the ABSENCE OF LIFE there is 'De-Animation' (Death) Its a MECHANISM OF PROTECTION to Separate "LIFE" (aka God) from any entity that has performed evoL(Anti-Love) Satan was Lucifer, the head of the Army of Death, which was built to 'Remove Any Entity that Performed Anti-Love away from the presence of God(Life)' thus holding them in Suspeneded Animation until God could judge their actions to determine if they were in fact Anti-Love(evoL) or not. Jesus IS GOD, its GODS 'VOICE', just as your voice IS YOU. Jesus (the voice of God) is a mechanism of protection, separating God from any imperfect entity that it chooses to interact with, just as when you speak to sh*t, you are not contaminated. God's voice always was and always will be. God separated it from himself when it was placed into creation as a test/proof as Satan, the current ruler of this world and Satan's SYSTEM (his logic of self regulation) was Anti-Love(evoL) itself. hopefully you can see the rest... |
oh, we User ID: 51540360 United States 05/27/2020 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was it at his birth into human form or did he exist in heaven prior to his birth? When he returns again, it doesn't mention anything about jesus being reborn again suggesting he can take form from heaven to earth. That being the case, how come he did not arrive that way when he was born through Mary? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78553829 God the Father, Jesus the Son & God the Holy Spirit have always existed as a triune being. In Genesis, when God says "we" make man in "our" image, that image is Jesus. There are even some who believe that Adam & Jesus looked exactly alike but that's not scriptural, just a fun idea. God can manifest Himself in many forms however, a burning bush, a pillar of fire, a roaring lion, a goat (two goats actually, another lesson for another time), etc. Jesus is often referred to as "the Word". Jesus happens to be the particular manifestation that spoke everything into existence. It can get confusing, trying to envision three separate manifestations as a singular entity. Fact is, if I could fit everything there is to know about God in my 3lb brain, He wouldn't be a God worth worshiping. you're fitted in, child |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34404409 United States 05/27/2020 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Satya Revelations it's obviously above your ability to understand.....OR you haven't taken the time to do your own research on the matter. It's not my job to educate you; that belongs to you. I will say that to base your whole belief system on a man-made book , tradition and what others tell you, is very dangerous to your soul. And you base your beliefs on whatever fairy tale you are able to sell yourself to make your heart pitter-patter. And how loving of you to not want to educate other peoples as to why your higher god allows a weaker god to 'harvest' them. Childish hogwash. I can google just as well as the next person. been nice chatting with you... tc, I've had enough I wish I could say I walked away with more knowledge, but sadly its just a bungled mess like the Demiurge Theory of Reality. Perhaps more at another time! sorry, lolsssssssss, can't help myself!!!!!! ok #023, you want to know what was a key instrument on my path that has gotten me where I am? Read this book. Digest it. Understand it.... breathe it in. If you do that, you may find your world turned upside down just like I did........ [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 77160280 United States 05/27/2020 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77665023 And you base your beliefs on whatever fairy tale you are able to sell yourself to make your heart pitter-patter. And how loving of you to not want to educate other peoples as to why your higher god allows a weaker god to 'harvest' them. Childish hogwash. I can google just as well as the next person. been nice chatting with you... tc, I've had enough I wish I could say I walked away with more knowledge, but sadly its just a bungled mess like the Demiurge Theory of Reality. Perhaps more at another time! sorry, lolsssssssss, can't help myself!!!!!! ok #023, you want to know what was a key instrument on my path that has gotten me where I am? Read this book. Digest it. Understand it.... breathe it in. If you do that, you may find your world turned upside down just like I did........ [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] I've read this. It's been a few years. I don't remember many details but I do recall finding genuinely useful information albeit intertwined with a lot of opinion. Still a worthwhile read in my humble opinion. I just wouldn't get too dogmatic about some of the assertions made. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34404409 United States 05/27/2020 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish I could say I walked away with more knowledge, but sadly its just a bungled mess like the Demiurge Theory of Reality. Perhaps more at another time! sorry, lolsssssssss, can't help myself!!!!!! ok #023, you want to know what was a key instrument on my path that has gotten me where I am? Read this book. Digest it. Understand it.... breathe it in. If you do that, you may find your world turned upside down just like I did........ [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] I've read this. It's been a few years. I don't remember many details but I do recall finding genuinely useful information albeit intertwined with a lot of opinion. Still a worthwhile read in my humble opinion. I just wouldn't get too dogmatic about some of the assertions made. of course, i completely agree. Dogma is NeVEr good, discernment and balance are crucial. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78921610 United States 05/27/2020 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77665023 And you base your beliefs on whatever fairy tale you are able to sell yourself to make your heart pitter-patter. And how loving of you to not want to educate other peoples as to why your higher god allows a weaker god to 'harvest' them. Childish hogwash. I can google just as well as the next person. been nice chatting with you... tc, I've had enough I wish I could say I walked away with more knowledge, but sadly its just a bungled mess like the Demiurge Theory of Reality. Perhaps more at another time! sorry, lolsssssssss, can't help myself!!!!!! ok #023, you want to know what was a key instrument on my path that has gotten me where I am? Read this book. Digest it. Understand it.... breathe it in. If you do that, you may find your world turned upside down just like I did........ [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] Thank you for that. I'd recommend you read the Zohar and Talmud to find the hidden secrets of Torah! It might take you a bit longer than your book recommendation to me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34404409 United States 05/27/2020 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish I could say I walked away with more knowledge, but sadly its just a bungled mess like the Demiurge Theory of Reality. Perhaps more at another time! sorry, lolsssssssss, can't help myself!!!!!! ok #023, you want to know what was a key instrument on my path that has gotten me where I am? Read this book. Digest it. Understand it.... breathe it in. If you do that, you may find your world turned upside down just like I did........ [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] Thank you for that. I'd recommend you read the Zohar and Talmud to find the hidden secrets of Torah! It might take you a bit longer than your book recommendation to me. no need to.... this book explains why. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78921610 United States 05/27/2020 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77665023 I wish I could say I walked away with more knowledge, but sadly its just a bungled mess like the Demiurge Theory of Reality. Perhaps more at another time! sorry, lolsssssssss, can't help myself!!!!!! ok #023, you want to know what was a key instrument on my path that has gotten me where I am? Read this book. Digest it. Understand it.... breathe it in. If you do that, you may find your world turned upside down just like I did........ [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] Thank you for that. I'd recommend you read the Zohar and Talmud to find the hidden secrets of Torah! It might take you a bit longer than your book recommendation to me. no need to.... this book explains why. Well I'm glad that you have passed judgement without investigating it for yourself. Prudent. /s |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34404409 United States 05/27/2020 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Satya Revelations sorry, lolsssssssss, can't help myself!!!!!! ok #023, you want to know what was a key instrument on my path that has gotten me where I am? Read this book. Digest it. Understand it.... breathe it in. If you do that, you may find your world turned upside down just like I did........ [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] Thank you for that. I'd recommend you read the Zohar and Talmud to find the hidden secrets of Torah! It might take you a bit longer than your book recommendation to me. no need to.... this book explains why. Well I'm glad that you have passed judgement without investigating it for yourself. Prudent. /s Look, until you can take the time to read the book, digest it, understand it...... when you have done that.... then we can talk. But until you are willing to look at something other than what you think you believe.... there's nothing more we can talk about. You asked for me to educate you, you berated me for ending the discussion without providing you something, and when I tried to, you dissed it and sent me right back to your belief system. What do you want from me ? |