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Why doesn't the all powerful Creator step in and remove all the evil and pain on this planet?

 
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Because we aren't here for a good time that's what heaven is for.

Earn your way in or start over.
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Picking up yesterday's discussion with an ac; but all are welcome to join

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I hate to include a 'spoiler' but this is one book you should peek ahead to see how it ends, . . . or begins, . . .whatever the last 3 chapters promote.
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Apparently because “all things are permitted in the Game”

We may be in a simulated reality which consists of multilayered, stacked up data which can provide/create illusions, depending on which “timeline” you are following. If you are an advanced Player, you can begin to create your own reality. YOU become God. “One with Source.”

We are all possibly on a path to being creators and creating our reality. If enough decide to dream in this direction, there might be a reduction of pain and suffering.
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When does God step in to violate our free will ? The Bible is the tale of such a violation.
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Wrong. The bible is a tale of G-d (The Parent) telling the child not to stick their hands on a hot stove, and yet the child ignores the warning and does it anyway.

How many times did G-d warn the Egyptians, through Moses, to let the slaves go before they got "burned"?

"Love One another as I have loved you".

This ^ is not a command but rather a warning. For whatever you do to the least of your brethren, you have done to yourself.

Don't blame G-d because you are a childish brat who thinks they know everything and needs to learn life lessons the hard way. G-d told you not to touch the stove.
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You are describing the How of divine intervention. I am not blaming him, or calling him a bungling buffoon for doing it the way he did it.
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Apparently because “all things are permitted in the Game”

We may be in a simulated reality which consists of multilayered, stacked up data which can provide/create illusions, depending on which “timeline” you are following. If you are an advanced Player, you can begin to create your own reality. YOU become God. “One with Source.”

We are all possibly on a path to being creators and creating our reality. If enough decide to dream in this direction, there might be a reduction of pain and suffering.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22237041

When does God step in to violate our free will ? The Bible is the tale of such a violation.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 78962687


Wrong. The bible is a tale of G-d (The Parent) telling the child not to stick their hands on a hot stove, and yet the child ignores the warning and does it anyway.

How many times did G-d warn the Egyptians, through Moses, to let the slaves go before they got "burned"?

"Love One another as I have loved you".

This ^ is not a command but rather a warning. For whatever you do to the least of your brethren, you have done to yourself.

Don't blame G-d because you are a childish brat who thinks they know everything and needs to learn life lessons the hard way. G-d told you not to touch the stove.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78957624

You are describing the How of divine intervention. I am not blaming him, or calling him a bungling buffoon for doing it the way he did it.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 78962982


I would I agree with this...... a warning of what's known as karma, what goes around comes around, you reap what you sow.... you get the point. It's correct that we can't blame the Creator (different in most cases from the god of the bible) for our woes... we bring to ourself what we give to others.

Love all creation as you love yourself, and no one's, human or sentient being's .. free will is infringed upon.

Mankind has a lonnnnnnnnnnnng way to go with this.
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When a young child is about to become a victim of rape, I wish that God would send an angel to stop the pedophile and punish him or her to the full extent of God's will.

I wish to God that angels would protect our little dear ones from the horror & abuse of adult on child rape.
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When a young child is about to become a victim of rape, I wish that God would send an angel to stop the pedophile and punish him or her to the full extent of God's will.

I wish to God that angels would protect our little dear ones from the horror & abuse of adult on child rape.
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Or we just make sure that we keep our appetites in check.
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God is all-powerful in the sense that it can create anything.

It doesn't mean that he has a body that performs intentional actions. God is not an intentional being, he is raw force, like gravity.
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God is all-powerful in the sense that it can create anything.

It doesn't mean that he has a body that performs intentional actions. God is not an intentional being, he is raw force, like gravity.
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and it's not even a "he" per se tomato
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I’ve been thinking a lot about faith lately. I understand faith is not a born in character – It’s taught and learned. Some retain it as fact because they were hounded about it all throughout their childhood. Parents force the kids to go to church, say their prayers every night and say grace at meals. All to demonstrate their bountiful faith. But I didn’t ever have that type of upbringing. When Dad was alive we always went to church and such. After his passing it all stopped. In fact, his passing ruined what little I believed about God and his grace and compassion. Since then every time I have ever asked God for anything resembling hope and love I’ve been let down. He has ignored me all of my life and I struggle with maintaining some level of faith. I think the little faith I have left is only out of fear that if he does exist – he’ll forgive me.
So, in retrospect, I say he doesn't exist at all. If he is all he has been purported to be, he would have stepped in many, many years ago. Read history. He is only the product of imagination and hope to offer some means to instill fear and demand behavior that allows entry into some Utopian empire to strive for. When you're dead - you're dead. You've made all the contributions you are able.
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What happens here is up to you as a test and you create through action for the most part. Miracles do happen.
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Re: Why doesn't the all powerful Creator step in and remove all the evil and pain on this planet?
Isn't it obvious? Whatever or whoever controls this place is not our friend. Whether it's malignant AI, the demiurge, archons etc or some combo of those things I don't claim to know. Either way we are fucked. People tell themselves fairy tales that this place is great and run by a loving God so they can sleep at night.
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I’ve been thinking a lot about faith lately. I understand faith is not a born in character – It’s taught and learned. Some retain it as fact because they were hounded about it all throughout their childhood. Parents force the kids to go to church, say their prayers every night and say grace at meals. All to demonstrate their bountiful faith. But I didn’t ever have that type of upbringing. When Dad was alive we always went to church and such. After his passing it all stopped. In fact, his passing ruined what little I believed about God and his grace and compassion. Since then every time I have ever asked God for anything resembling hope and love I’ve been let down. He has ignored me all of my life and I struggle with maintaining some level of faith. I think the little faith I have left is only out of fear that if he does exist – he’ll forgive me.
So, in retrospect, I say he doesn't exist at all. If he is all he has been purported to be, he would have stepped in many, many years ago. Read history. He is only the product of imagination and hope to offer some means to instill fear and demand behavior that allows entry into some Utopian empire to strive for. When you're dead - you're dead. You've made all the contributions you are able.
 Quoting: The Sherlock


The heart is the most powerful electromagnetic tool in our body gifted to us. It's the heart that's able to connect to source Creator.

I see that most of humanity does not have that connection.... there's no vibratory energetic connection to Creator.

Therefore, while Creator IS able to reach down and manipulate things on the planet to make it a more kind, peaceful, harmonic place... It IS against the universal law of free will to do so.......

Without the energetic connection from human to Creator...Creator is powerless, so to speak, from intervening. It can come down to our vibration, but "we" cannot go up to meet it........

Therefore, we are on our own, til we find our way BACK to creator, raise our vibrational heart energy to Creator's vibrational energy, and re-establish the original connection.


this ^ is a repost....... you are a sovereign being and don't need to outsource your power. In fact when you pray to another entity, you are giving your power away. However, it is crucial, that as a sovereign being, you energetically connect to source creator to have a two way communication.
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when others on this planet are willing to do the same for humanity.

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Isn't it obvious? Whatever or whoever controls this place is not our friend. Whether it's malignant AI, the demiurge, archons etc or some combo of those things I don't claim to know. Either way we are fucked. People tell themselves fairy tales that this place is great and run by a loving God so they can sleep at night.
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yes....... agreed. The god of the bible, in 99% of it, is the god of this world. it doesn't love you... it just wants to eat you.
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when others on this planet are willing to do the same for humanity.
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I take it a step further, and say for ALL creation.
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when others on this planet are willing to do the same for humanity.
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I take it a step further, and say for ALL creation.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Humans use other creations for harmful lab studies, for example. I answered when, I realized and Not why, but both are for the same reason.
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when others on this planet are willing to do the same for humanity.
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I take it a step further, and say for ALL creation.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


That's impossible. You eat don't you? Do you think that the vegetables want to be eaten? Just because you can't hear them scream doesn't mean they don't. We are in the process of studying plant communication in depth currently. The findings don't bode will for treating them as you would want to be treated.
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Re: Why doesn't the all powerful Creator step in and remove all the evil and pain on this planet?
Because this is NOT all powerful creator of the creation... ones must give up this concept of god. It is not real.

:NOT GOD:

There is a celestial team that makes decisions over the planets... and the only reason the planet has not done an axis shift or magnetic reversal prior to now is because the celestials here under the RETURNED Christ Jesus.. have prevented this stuff to buy you time to grow up.

There will be not major axis shift which would require evacuation of the planet... we have moved beyond that.. but the magnetic reversal is coming... and the planet herself will remove all that is not of God... and during it celestial staff will remove other people who are leaving for various reasons...
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Because this is NOT all powerful creator of the creation... ones must give up this concept of god. It is not real.

There is a celestial team that makes decisions over the planets... and the only reason the planet has not done an axis shift or magnetic reversal prior to now is because the celestials here under the RETURNED Christ Jesus.. have prevented this stuff to buy you time to grow up.

There will be not major axis shift which would require evacuation of the planet... we have moved beyond that.. but the magnetic reversal is coming... and the planet herself will remove all that is not of God... and during it celestial staff will remove other people who are leaving for various reasons...
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Or perhaps you are the one who holds incomplete views, but that would require you actually wanting to learn and stop living in your fairy tale land. Back to the spaceship and off with you.
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when others on this planet are willing to do the same for humanity.
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I take it a step further, and say for ALL creation.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


That's impossible. You eat don't you? Do you think that the vegetables want to be eaten? Just because you can't hear them scream doesn't mean they don't. We are in the process of studying plant communication in depth currently. The findings don't bode will for treating them as you would want to be treated.
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plants do communicate, and plants can feel pain it's true... they are not sentient beings though. i do not eat any creature of sentience... I don't believe they were created to satiate my belly.
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Probably because Trump split his meridian, and sent the other half of him floating out to sea with the democrats and criminals.
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when others on this planet are willing to do the same for humanity.
 Quoting: rewind


I take it a step further, and say for ALL creation.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


That's impossible. You eat don't you? Do you think that the vegetables want to be eaten? Just because you can't hear them scream doesn't mean they don't. We are in the process of studying plant communication in depth currently. The findings don't bode will for treating them as you would want to be treated.
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plants do communicate, and plants can feel pain it's true... they are not sentient beings though. i do not eat any creature of sentience... I don't believe they were created to satiate my belly.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


You don't know that they aren't sentient, you just assume. Just as you assume to know what the Torah says. Just as you assume to understand how the spiritual world works. Just as you assume the Torah isn't from G-d. I've read all your posts and it is all new age assumptions that you continue to assert as facts.

We haven't even gotten to the rocks and their feelings yet. The Talmud has a great discussion on this. Not that you would know because another book you read told you not to bother.
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Re: Why doesn't the all powerful Creator step in and remove all the evil and pain on this planet?
Because this is NOT all powerful creator of the creation... ones must give up this concept of god. It is not real.

There is a celestial team that makes decisions over the planets... and the only reason the planet has not done an axis shift or magnetic reversal prior to now is because the celestials here under the RETURNED Christ Jesus.. have prevented this stuff to buy you time to grow up.

There will be not major axis shift which would require evacuation of the planet... we have moved beyond that.. but the magnetic reversal is coming... and the planet herself will remove all that is not of God... and during it celestial staff will remove other people who are leaving for various reasons...
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Or perhaps you are the one who holds incomplete views, but that would require you actually wanting to learn and stop living in your fairy tale land. Back to the spaceship and off with you.
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I am on the team that makes such decisions and thus I KNOW OF WHAT I SPEAK. Use it or trash it.. Your choice... I am updated quite regularly in addition to attending on board meetings. And a lot of the people on my team have these experiences also.

Jesus went to and from space ships when he walked this earth 2000 years ago to.. a difference was.. people were aware but they also hung him on the cross.. the same type of shits today running this world. don't be one of them.
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Re: Why doesn't the all powerful Creator step in and remove all the evil and pain on this planet?
Because this is NOT all powerful creator of the creation... ones must give up this concept of god. It is not real.

There is a celestial team that makes decisions over the planets... and the only reason the planet has not done an axis shift or magnetic reversal prior to now is because the celestials here under the RETURNED Christ Jesus.. have prevented this stuff to buy you time to grow up.

There will be not major axis shift which would require evacuation of the planet... we have moved beyond that.. but the magnetic reversal is coming... and the planet herself will remove all that is not of God... and during it celestial staff will remove other people who are leaving for various reasons...
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Or perhaps you are the one who holds incomplete views, but that would require you actually wanting to learn and stop living in your fairy tale land. Back to the spaceship and off with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78921610


I am on the team that makes such decisions and thus I KNOW OF WHAT I SPEAK. Use it or trash it.. Your choice... I am updated quite regularly in addition to attending on board meetings. And a lot of the people on my team have these experiences also.

Jesus went to and from space ships when he walked this earth 2000 years ago to.. a difference was.. people were aware but they also hung him on the cross.. the same type of shits today running this world. don't be one of them.
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I'm sure you do. /s

I'm surprised you get such good internet access with those padded walls.

I've asked you for proof of your delusions before and you never follow through. Back to the 'spaceship' and off with you.
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Re: Why doesn't the all powerful Creator step in and remove all the evil and pain on this planet?
These Trump cultist retards are about to see the inside of a very shitty prison for their crimes.
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Why do ma$on$ hide the peaceful visits of highly advanced extraterrestrial civilizations?

FOR DECADES NOW.
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Justice is en route

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I take it a step further, and say for ALL creation.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


That's impossible. You eat don't you? Do you think that the vegetables want to be eaten? Just because you can't hear them scream doesn't mean they don't. We are in the process of studying plant communication in depth currently. The findings don't bode will for treating them as you would want to be treated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78921610


plants do communicate, and plants can feel pain it's true... they are not sentient beings though. i do not eat any creature of sentience... I don't believe they were created to satiate my belly.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


You don't know that they aren't sentient, you just assume. Just as you assume to know what the Torah says. Just as you assume to understand how the spiritual world works. Just as you assume the Torah isn't from G-d. I've read all your posts and it is all new age assumptions that you continue to assert as facts.

We haven't even gotten to the rocks and their feelings yet. The Talmud has a great discussion on this. Not that you would know because another book you read told you not to bother.
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glp won't let me post my response, but if you go to this link and look at chosen people's definition of sentient being, it should settle the matter if we are to go by biblical standards. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Otherwise, if we are to go by science, then I submit that science is its own religion, and is in a constant state of flux. The good thing is, it is continually expanding in its scope.
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I take it a step further, and say for ALL creation.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


That's impossible. You eat don't you? Do you think that the vegetables want to be eaten? Just because you can't hear them scream doesn't mean they don't. We are in the process of studying plant communication in depth currently. The findings don't bode will for treating them as you would want to be treated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78921610


plants do communicate, and plants can feel pain it's true... they are not sentient beings though. i do not eat any creature of sentience... I don't believe they were created to satiate my belly.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


You don't know that they aren't sentient, you just assume. Just as you assume to know what the Torah says. Just as you assume to understand how the spiritual world works. Just as you assume the Torah isn't from G-d. I've read all your posts and it is all new age assumptions that you continue to assert as facts.

We haven't even gotten to the rocks and their feelings yet. The Talmud has a great discussion on this. Not that you would know because another book you read told you not to bother.
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Yes, I choose to not put my energy into a book that i know has been manipulated by man. I don't assume the torah isn't from god.... it's proven to be plagiarized writings..... all its teachings have already been taught long before your people were around. This is proven.....just like the rest of the bible.....save the prophets.

The plants have life, this is well known. The rocks and earth.... the ocean all has a consciousness..... this is well known.
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Re: Why doesn't the all powerful Creator step in and remove all the evil and pain on this planet?
Look at all the problems humans have with one another. Most of the world is not ready to receive Jesus, humanity still denies its Lord and King every day... if mankind rejects Jesus, how could it ever stand in the presence of the all consuming fire of a perfectly righteous and Holy God?


I dont have the answer. Not sure what God is waiting on. Looking around it must be difficult for God to have faith in His creation. Theres so much hatred, bitterness, and dissension.

If we can't get along down here, how would we get along in Paradise?

My take is that God is going to have to refine the earth in fire to remove impurities just as silver is refined. Heat and stress.
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You reject his church and you reject his doctrine, enjoy the fruits of your labour.





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